Has the Government shutdown...................

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    affected you or someone you know personally? My DW is a civilian government worker who got to go back to work this past Monday. We're fortunate that we don't have to dig into our savings to make it now, but there are lots of people I know who will be greatly affected till it gets resolved. One isn't going to be able to pay her mortgage after being with the government 20 years.
    Others I know have had to cancel sessions with me (I'll be fine because there are other members who want my services).

    Opinions?

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    Minimal impact personally. People who work in government know this stuff is coming, so they should prepare accordingly. Some state governments like CA seem to do this yearly.

    It's finally impacted me though, I went to a usgs.gov website to get some identification pictures for some animals, and they had taken it down "due to the shutdown" which of course is silly as hell, and just more crisis theatrics.
  • opus649
    opus649 Posts: 633 Member
    People who work in government know this stuff is coming, so they should prepare accordingly.

    I've worked for the federal government for 16 years. Number of shutdowns during that time frame? Zero (until this one)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,040 Member
    Why can't she pay her mortgage? If she's been w/ the government that long shouldn't she have some savings?

    We were affected the last time they had a shut down... and if they're still shut down come the first I guess we will be then if they cut into veterans benefits. I hope we still get disability and BAH because if not we'd be screwed.
    She's a material person (fancy cars, top name brand clothes, etc.). I know she lives paycheck to paycheck.

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    And finally, I will blame the American people if we don't get new representation in Congress this next election!
    Hear hear!
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    People who work in government know this stuff is coming, so they should prepare accordingly.

    I've worked for the federal government for 16 years. Number of shutdowns during that time frame? Zero (until this one)

    and you haven't paid ANY attention to what state level hijinks there are?

    Well... that sucks, but this whole event is NO surprise, especially since they threatened a shutdown in the spring. Sucks it's impacting you, but there WAS warning.
  • I'm a little apprehensive to have the same government that is responsible for your public education...

    ...also be responsible for my healthcare.

    (Know what I mean?)

    Yes I know what you mean. The public education system is a different situation but simliar. This field requires people to figure out the problems and find good solutions to fix the problems. There is always problems, failing to even try and fix them isn't a solution. I don't have children so honestly I don't look into what is wrong with it. Therefore I don't complain about it since I cannot offer any solution.

    However I ask you this, how many people would be able to send there children to school if it wasn't for public education system? I think of how expensive universities are since they are run as buisness for profit. I also think of how would our nation be if we had a large amount of uneducated citizen. That is more scary to me than having no public education system.
  • wild_wild_life
    wild_wild_life Posts: 1,334 Member
    Yes.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Actually it all started when big buisness Health companies started to get out of control and charge to much so people had a hard time being able to pay for health care. So insurance companies are created with the idea that you can make monthly payments that are low and afordable enough so a person can still recieve health care but for less. Well since both are buisness and about profit the prices have risen again to unaffordable prices. example. When I first went to the emergency room for a kidney stone I was given an IV drip and an x-ray cost about $500. 10 years later got another kidney stone was given same thing IV drip and x-ray but cost $8,000. There is something wrong with that. Bill Maher last friday pointed out it costs like $350 for the company to make a false hip replacment but as it goes through the system the buyer pays $35,000 how is that justified??

    So Obama gets elected by the people, mainly because he promised to deliever us health care reform. You know to fix the problem and make it affordable for everyone. (Affordable Health Care) The most logical would be a single payer system not that complicated. Yet republicans fight over it due to there way of thinking that the government is bad. 'They take all my money with taxes and restrict me from making more money in buisness with there regulations ><. Who cares that majority of the country cannot afford health care. I'm unsimpathetic and selfish so F'em. I can pay for health care still so I don't care, its just those lazy poor who don't make enough money and use my taxes.' Backed by lobby for big buisness they chop up the bill and make it overly complicated (as they do with all buisness regulations to make it full of loop holes and to keep the people ignorant of how they are screwing us over.) As well as locking it in for insurance companies to remain in the buisness of health care. Obama compromised a lot just to get the bill passed.

    Since its been passed the republicans have been trying every propaganda and scheme they can to confuse the people and destroy ACA. It really upsets me that people even listen to them anymore. They have been so manipulative and there intentions are not for the people it all comes off as insanity. Now they shut down the government and pointing the finger at Obama for not compromising. Yet people believe there BS. If they really cared about the people they would come up with a plan that would fix the original problem instead of just trying to destroy the law that has passed. Don't tell me it costs to much when its something we need. Isn't it the responsability of the government 'both parties' to figure this out and come up with how to pay for services we need?

    I'm a little apprehensive to have the same government that is responsible for your public education...

    ...also be responsible for my healthcare.

    (Know what I mean?)

    Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this!
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member

    Um just an FYI - talk to the president who is also acting like a spoiled child. Just saying. It is not just ONE party's fault. Just sayin

    Actually, nothing out there from non Fox News is saying that - the general consensus both in the media and on the Hill / around Washington is that this is a Republican hostage situation.

    I think the best article I've come across on the topic is The Economist - which is a *conservative* newspaper coming out of the U.K.

    http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21587211-land-free-starting-look-ungovernable-enough-enough-no-way-run-country

    I see it as a Republican hostage situation too. The way someone explained it to me was this:

    Husband says we need to buy a new car. Wife agrees. Husband says we can spend X amount of money on new car. Wife says no, we will spend Y, and if you do not agree to spend Y on the car, I won't allow you to make the mortgage payment either.

    Doesn't make sense now, does it?
    You got your analogies all wrong. It doesn't even make sense in relation to what is happening. Try educating yourself on the Republic form of governance, and where the Constitution fit's into what is happening. All spending originates in The House, not from the edicts of a dictator.

    Your right on one thing. I should have said, "Wife says no, we will spend Y, and if you do not agree to spend Y on the car, I won't make the mortgage payment or allow you to make the mortgage payment either." There, that should fix it.

    aaaaaaaaactually, it's more like this:

    husband wants new car. wife does not. husband asks their child if they should get a new car. child agrees with husband. 2 votes against 1 means they're getting a new car. but now, it's time for the husband and wife to figure out their family's budget for the next year. wife says they can't afford the new car. husband says too bad it's already being delivered and there's no returns. household shuts down until husband and wife can agree on what to spend money on and how much money they have to spend, despite pretty much having the same income as last year.

    Wow, what you said does sound more accurate to the situation! Should we have a first wife and a second wife since the house was a Democratic majority at first, and now it's Republican? Teehee, I like this analogy.
  • Okay, so I'll grant you the part about the health and insurance companies. But, let's get the facts straight about the ACA. It was passed when BOTH houses of congress were lead by a majority of Democrats. Remember, it was Speaker Nancy Pelosi telling everyone that they should just vote on the bill (before even reading it). If they had taken even two days to read the bill, it wouldn't have time to pass before they left on holiday. IMHO, there are some good things in the ACA, and there are some questionable things in the law as well.

    Yes, but if republicans had majority it wouldn't of even been discussed. Also, if I remember correctly it only came to this after long debating and failing to pass something agreeable. The republicans were trying to stall it and not let it through.
    The Republican majority in the House was elected in 2010 primarily in response to the ACA. The Republicans feel that they have a mandate from their voters to repeal, remove or at least water down most of the ACA. And if you talk to their constituents, that's what the majority of them were (and still are) saying.

    Move to 2012, and the Democrats believe that they have the mandate back since the president was re-elected, and the Republicans in the House believe that they still have it because they were all re-elected as well. The only ones who weren't are 2/3rds of the Senate, and they are split pretty evenly between Dems and Reps.

    Yes I agree, it just divides them on both sides of the wall. I also wonder how many republicans voted though out of fear and propaganda delivered during that time.
    Now, as a current federal employee, who is furloughed, I think that the whole situation is ridiculous. I blame BOTH sides of Congress for not doing their main job, which is funding the government for the next year through the budgetary process. I blame the President for using his bully pulpit at the last minute, when he could've been prompting Congress to work with him on the budget since the last threatened shut-down (this past spring). I blame the media for oversimplifying the whole mess. And finally, I will blame the American people if we don't get new representation in Congress this next election!

    I also agree. Except 'Obama bully pulpit'. Mainly because what can he do? The republicans offer no solution to the health care problem.
  • Morgaath
    Morgaath Posts: 679 Member
    I have a friend whos husband (contracted civilian)did the same exact thing as someone in my DH's unit.. Her DH got $200,000 a year while deployed.. and My DH and his buddy got $45,000-50,000 while deployed...

    Contracted civilian? Oh, you mean "non-government, private corporation, employee". Also know as "an expert" (It helps justify the expense). From what I understand, they also get to avoid most US taxes if they play it right.
    A bit of a difference from a person who works for the government, Fed, State or Local.
  • gobonas99
    gobonas99 Posts: 1,049 Member
    My husband is a disabled Veteran receiving tuition assistance and a housing allowance to make up for the fact that he can't work and is in school full time. The VA can't guarantee anything (housing/grocery money, tuition, etc.) after the end of the month and we're already stretched thin on my income.

    So yeah, we're feeling this.
    I thought the VA was funded till the end of the year?

    the hospitals, etc are funded through 2014. however, VA claims processing, disability payments, pension payments, etc only have guaranteed funding through "late October". After that, they will pay for whatever they have funds left to cover, then nothing until the shutdown is over. Direct from the VA website (http://www.va.gov/opa/appropriations_lapse_plan.asp):

    "During the government shutdown, VA medical centers, clinics and other health services have advance appropriations for 2014 and will remain open. VA has funds available to ensure claims processing and payments in the compensation, pension, education, and vocational rehabilitation programs will continue through late October. However, in the event of a prolonged shutdown, claims processing and payments in these programs will be suspended when funds are exhausted."

    This sucks, as my husband gets disability payments from a service connected injury. I am praying the morons in Congress stop acting like spoiled 5 year olds and end the shutdown/approve the debt limit increase. :angry:

    Not only that, but I am literally in limbo with my name change. I submitted my SS name change app on the 27th, so it is sitting on someone's desk somewhere until this crap is over. Can't change 75% of my stuff because I need my new SS card. Changed my driver's license, but it's been 10 days and I still don't have my new one....I'm wondering if it is going to be held up because it is an enhanced license and they can't verify my SS name change. :grumble:
  • My husband is a disabled Veteran receiving tuition assistance and a housing allowance to make up for the fact that he can't work and is in school full time. The VA can't guarantee anything (housing/grocery money, tuition, etc.) after the end of the month and we're already stretched thin on my income.

    So yeah, we're feeling this.
    I thought the VA was funded till the end of the year?

    the hospitals, etc are funded through 2014. however, VA claims processing, disability payments, pension payments, etc only have guaranteed funding through "late October". After that, they will pay for whatever they have funds left to cover, then nothing until the shutdown is over. Direct from the VA website (http://www.va.gov/opa/appropriations_lapse_plan.asp):

    "During the government shutdown, VA medical centers, clinics and other health services have advance appropriations for 2014 and will remain open. VA has funds available to ensure claims processing and payments in the compensation, pension, education, and vocational rehabilitation programs will continue through late October. However, in the event of a prolonged shutdown, claims processing and payments in these programs will be suspended when funds are exhausted."

    This sucks, as my husband gets disability payments from a service connected injury. I am praying the morons in Congress stop acting like spoiled 5 year olds and end the shutdown/approve the debt limit increase. :angry:

    Not only that, but I am literally in limbo with my name change. I submitted my SS name change app on the 27th, so it is sitting on someone's desk somewhere until this crap is over. Can't change 75% of my stuff because I need my new SS card. Changed my driver's license, but it's been 10 days and I still don't have my new one....I'm wondering if it is going to be held up because it is an enhanced license and they can't verify my SS name change. :grumble:

    My husband gets service connected disability too... I'd hope that they'd pay disability before anything else with their extra funds as we depend on that and the schooling BAH every month. >.<

    They totally don't pay enough at all. "oh we screwed you up for life.. heres a little bit of change"
  • comrade_questions
    comrade_questions Posts: 103 Member
    I'm active duty so I'm still getting paid, but I'm supposed to be TYDing in the next couple weeks. I have no idea if I am. At all. Nobody knows anything.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    My husband is a disabled Veteran receiving tuition assistance and a housing allowance to make up for the fact that he can't work and is in school full time. The VA can't guarantee anything (housing/grocery money, tuition, etc.) after the end of the month and we're already stretched thin on my income.

    So yeah, we're feeling this.
    I thought the VA was funded till the end of the year?

    the hospitals, etc are funded through 2014. however, VA claims processing, disability payments, pension payments, etc only have guaranteed funding through "late October". After that, they will pay for whatever they have funds left to cover, then nothing until the shutdown is over. Direct from the VA website (http://www.va.gov/opa/appropriations_lapse_plan.asp):

    "During the government shutdown, VA medical centers, clinics and other health services have advance appropriations for 2014 and will remain open. VA has funds available to ensure claims processing and payments in the compensation, pension, education, and vocational rehabilitation programs will continue through late October. However, in the event of a prolonged shutdown, claims processing and payments in these programs will be suspended when funds are exhausted."

    This sucks, as my husband gets disability payments from a service connected injury. I am praying the morons in Congress stop acting like spoiled 5 year olds and end the shutdown/approve the debt limit increase. :angry:

    Not only that, but I am literally in limbo with my name change. I submitted my SS name change app on the 27th, so it is sitting on someone's desk somewhere until this crap is over. Can't change 75% of my stuff because I need my new SS card. Changed my driver's license, but it's been 10 days and I still don't have my new one....I'm wondering if it is going to be held up because it is an enhanced license and they can't verify my SS name change. :grumble:

    My husband gets service connected disability too... I'd hope that they'd pay disability before anything else with their extra funds as we depend on that and the schooling BAH every month. >.<

    They totally don't pay enough at all. "oh we screwed you up for life.. heres a little bit of change"

    I always understood it to be sort of like a supplemental payment for your disability, not a household income (unless the VA deems you 100% disabled).
  • gobonas99
    gobonas99 Posts: 1,049 Member
    My husband is a disabled Veteran receiving tuition assistance and a housing allowance to make up for the fact that he can't work and is in school full time. The VA can't guarantee anything (housing/grocery money, tuition, etc.) after the end of the month and we're already stretched thin on my income.

    So yeah, we're feeling this.
    I thought the VA was funded till the end of the year?

    the hospitals, etc are funded through 2014. however, VA claims processing, disability payments, pension payments, etc only have guaranteed funding through "late October". After that, they will pay for whatever they have funds left to cover, then nothing until the shutdown is over. Direct from the VA website (http://www.va.gov/opa/appropriations_lapse_plan.asp):

    "During the government shutdown, VA medical centers, clinics and other health services have advance appropriations for 2014 and will remain open. VA has funds available to ensure claims processing and payments in the compensation, pension, education, and vocational rehabilitation programs will continue through late October. However, in the event of a prolonged shutdown, claims processing and payments in these programs will be suspended when funds are exhausted."

    This sucks, as my husband gets disability payments from a service connected injury. I am praying the morons in Congress stop acting like spoiled 5 year olds and end the shutdown/approve the debt limit increase. :angry:

    Not only that, but I am literally in limbo with my name change. I submitted my SS name change app on the 27th, so it is sitting on someone's desk somewhere until this crap is over. Can't change 75% of my stuff because I need my new SS card. Changed my driver's license, but it's been 10 days and I still don't have my new one....I'm wondering if it is going to be held up because it is an enhanced license and they can't verify my SS name change. :grumble:

    My husband gets service connected disability too... I'd hope that they'd pay disability before anything else with their extra funds as we depend on that and the schooling BAH every month. >.<

    They totally don't pay enough at all. "oh we screwed you up for life.. heres a little bit of change"

    I always understood it to be sort of like a supplemental payment for your disability, not a household income (unless the VA deems you 100% disabled).

    Depending on your injury, it can be supplemental or it can be your only income. When you can't sit or stand for long periods of time (without taking some serious - aka can't drive on them - painkillers, or spending the next 1-2 days laying in bed), it makes it difficult to get a job...but if you're at the max rating for your injury, you're screwed. You can apply for "individual unemployability" which will bump you to 100% payment even with a non-100% rating, but it is a long, arduous process before you can even submit for it.
  • mjrkearney
    mjrkearney Posts: 408 Member
    All political yammering aside...

    As a fully immersed Army wife, I know dozens of people who are being directly affected.

    Thanks to all non-essential civilian medical staff being furloughed, my best friend's (Army EOD wife) gallbladder surgery has been delayed until further notice, and she's needed it removed for over a month now.

    My sister (Air Force Captain's wife) will more than likely be denied pre-natal care until the shutdown is over. The Captain himself is being denied his Master's tuition assistance, and since they just PSC'ed a couple months ago, their savings are shot.

    My buddy the AF Sergeant has a newborn and the little one can't get her regular check-ups if the doctor isn't in. Not to mention, if they happen to be on WIC.

    If you have Tricare Prime, you need a referral from your Primary Care Manager to see anybody other than them, and if they've been furloughed, you're SOL.

    A lot of offices and services are closed, so paperwork isn't getting processed. The commissaries are closed, so if there isn't a grocery store near base, a lot of the soldiers have to go way out of their way just to get real food.

    Oh, and could someone tell me if my 68-year-old mother will be getting her Social Security check this month? Due to spending most of her earlier years waitressing, she only had 19 years with the same employer, and her retirement benefits involved free chocolate.
  • judyde
    judyde Posts: 401 Member
    People who work in government know this stuff is coming, so they should prepare accordingly.

    I've worked for the federal government for 16 years. Number of shutdowns during that time frame? Zero (until this one)

    Well, you started just after numerous government shutdowns. Between 1981 and 1995, there were 11 government shutdowns. The one in Dec 1995 lasted for 21 days. That would have been right before you started working there. I would think anyone who started working there at that time would have heard about it, and would know this isn't that unusual.
  • My husband is a disabled Veteran receiving tuition assistance and a housing allowance to make up for the fact that he can't work and is in school full time. The VA can't guarantee anything (housing/grocery money, tuition, etc.) after the end of the month and we're already stretched thin on my income.

    So yeah, we're feeling this.
    I thought the VA was funded till the end of the year?

    the hospitals, etc are funded through 2014. however, VA claims processing, disability payments, pension payments, etc only have guaranteed funding through "late October". After that, they will pay for whatever they have funds left to cover, then nothing until the shutdown is over. Direct from the VA website (http://www.va.gov/opa/appropriations_lapse_plan.asp):

    "During the government shutdown, VA medical centers, clinics and other health services have advance appropriations for 2014 and will remain open. VA has funds available to ensure claims processing and payments in the compensation, pension, education, and vocational rehabilitation programs will continue through late October. However, in the event of a prolonged shutdown, claims processing and payments in these programs will be suspended when funds are exhausted."

    This sucks, as my husband gets disability payments from a service connected injury. I am praying the morons in Congress stop acting like spoiled 5 year olds and end the shutdown/approve the debt limit increase. :angry:

    Not only that, but I am literally in limbo with my name change. I submitted my SS name change app on the 27th, so it is sitting on someone's desk somewhere until this crap is over. Can't change 75% of my stuff because I need my new SS card. Changed my driver's license, but it's been 10 days and I still don't have my new one....I'm wondering if it is going to be held up because it is an enhanced license and they can't verify my SS name change. :grumble:

    My husband gets service connected disability too... I'd hope that they'd pay disability before anything else with their extra funds as we depend on that and the schooling BAH every month. >.<

    They totally don't pay enough at all. "oh we screwed you up for life.. heres a little bit of change"

    I always understood it to be sort of like a supplemental payment for your disability, not a household income (unless the VA deems you 100% disabled).

    My DH's DR said he'd qualify for 100%.. however he would never be able to work for the rest of his life and we'd have no control of any of his bills. So his DR put him at 70% in hopes my husband would be able to get and keep a job soon.
  • sillygoosie
    sillygoosie Posts: 1,109 Member

    My DH's DR said he'd qualify for 100%.. however he would never be able to work for the rest of his life and we'd have no control of any of his bills. So his DR put him at 70% in hopes my husband would be able to get and keep a job soon.

    Since your husband is home, do you work? If not, why? I'm just curious.

  • My DH's DR said he'd qualify for 100%.. however he would never be able to work for the rest of his life and we'd have no control of any of his bills. So his DR put him at 70% in hopes my husband would be able to get and keep a job soon.

    Since your husband is home, do you work? If not, why? I'm just curious.
    He got fired I'm dec right before xmas because they worked him 19 days straight (12hrs) and he got injured at work. He goes to school now.

    I had a small at home business that I used as extra spending money that I picked up and supported us for 6 mo before his disability came. Quitthat because dealing with 500-1000+ orders a month was to stressful without a warehouse And staff and didn't want to create that commitment.

    Besides that never. But I got a job making my own hours.

    My husband couldn't be alone for almost 2 years and we have 2 kids so it was hard.
  • gobonas99
    gobonas99 Posts: 1,049 Member
    My husband is a disabled Veteran receiving tuition assistance and a housing allowance to make up for the fact that he can't work and is in school full time. The VA can't guarantee anything (housing/grocery money, tuition, etc.) after the end of the month and we're already stretched thin on my income.

    So yeah, we're feeling this.
    I thought the VA was funded till the end of the year?

    the hospitals, etc are funded through 2014. however, VA claims processing, disability payments, pension payments, etc only have guaranteed funding through "late October". After that, they will pay for whatever they have funds left to cover, then nothing until the shutdown is over. Direct from the VA website (http://www.va.gov/opa/appropriations_lapse_plan.asp):

    "During the government shutdown, VA medical centers, clinics and other health services have advance appropriations for 2014 and will remain open. VA has funds available to ensure claims processing and payments in the compensation, pension, education, and vocational rehabilitation programs will continue through late October. However, in the event of a prolonged shutdown, claims processing and payments in these programs will be suspended when funds are exhausted."

    This sucks, as my husband gets disability payments from a service connected injury. I am praying the morons in Congress stop acting like spoiled 5 year olds and end the shutdown/approve the debt limit increase. :angry:

    Not only that, but I am literally in limbo with my name change. I submitted my SS name change app on the 27th, so it is sitting on someone's desk somewhere until this crap is over. Can't change 75% of my stuff because I need my new SS card. Changed my driver's license, but it's been 10 days and I still don't have my new one....I'm wondering if it is going to be held up because it is an enhanced license and they can't verify my SS name change. :grumble:

    My husband gets service connected disability too... I'd hope that they'd pay disability before anything else with their extra funds as we depend on that and the schooling BAH every month. >.<

    They totally don't pay enough at all. "oh we screwed you up for life.. heres a little bit of change"

    And word that there will most likely be no VA disability or pension payments on Nov 1 if the shutdown continues: http://news.yahoo.com/va-chief-shutdown-could-hit-millions-vets-072429820--politics.html

    I think I am going to be sick. :sick:
  • sillygoosie
    sillygoosie Posts: 1,109 Member

    My DH's DR said he'd qualify for 100%.. however he would never be able to work for the rest of his life and we'd have no control of any of his bills. So his DR put him at 70% in hopes my husband would be able to get and keep a job soon.

    Since your husband is home, do you work? If not, why? I'm just curious.
    He got fired I'm dec right before xmas because they worked him 19 days straight (12hrs) and he got injured at work. He goes to school now.

    I had a small at home business that I used as extra spending money that I picked up and supported us for 6 mo before his disability came. Quitthat because dealing with 500-1000+ orders a month was to stressful without a warehouse And staff and didn't want to create that commitment.

    Besides that never. But I got a job making my own hours.

    My husband couldn't be alone for almost 2 years and we have 2 kids so it was hard.

    That was then, this is now...

    And life is hard. You're 23, you better get used to it. Don't expect the government to support your family when you're not willing to help out because it's "stressful". Your husband deserves assistance but he probably also deserves a wife who has the determination to help her family survive. Good luck on having savings in 20 years.
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  • Nikoruo
    Nikoruo Posts: 771 Member
    nope nope nope nope.
  • kikokateyy
    kikokateyy Posts: 136 Member
    I'm not 100% sure whats going on in the States. But is it really just one party wanted something, the other party didnt so no body gets anything?
  • mammamaurer
    mammamaurer Posts: 418 Member
    I'm not 100% sure whats going on in the States. But is it really just one party wanted something, the other party didnt so no body gets anything?

    yep that about sums it up.

    my husbands navy, we live on base.... so almost every one i know has been affected in some way

  • My DH's DR said he'd qualify for 100%.. however he would never be able to work for the rest of his life and we'd have no control of any of his bills. So his DR put him at 70% in hopes my husband would be able to get and keep a job soon.

    Since your husband is home, do you work? If not, why? I'm just curious.
    He got fired I'm dec right before xmas because they worked him 19 days straight (12hrs) and he got injured at work. He goes to school now.

    I had a small at home business that I used as extra spending money that I picked up and supported us for 6 mo before his disability came. Quitthat because dealing with 500-1000+ orders a month was to stressful without a warehouse And staff and didn't want to create that commitment.

    Besides that never. But I got a job making my own hours.

    My husband couldn't be alone for almost 2 years and we have 2 kids so it was hard.

    That was then, this is now...

    And life is hard. You're 23, you better get used to it. Don't expect the government to support your family when you're not willing to help out because it's "stressful". Your husband deserves assistance but he probably also deserves a wife who has the determination to help her family survive. Good luck on having savings in 20 years.

    Righhhhhht. Because you know ALLLLLL about disabilities.
  • sillygoosie
    sillygoosie Posts: 1,109 Member

    My DH's DR said he'd qualify for 100%.. however he would never be able to work for the rest of his life and we'd have no control of any of his bills. So his DR put him at 70% in hopes my husband would be able to get and keep a job soon.

    Since your husband is home, do you work? If not, why? I'm just curious.
    He got fired I'm dec right before xmas because they worked him 19 days straight (12hrs) and he got injured at work. He goes to school now.

    I had a small at home business that I used as extra spending money that I picked up and supported us for 6 mo before his disability came. Quitthat because dealing with 500-1000+ orders a month was to stressful without a warehouse And staff and didn't want to create that commitment.

    Besides that never. But I got a job making my own hours.

    My husband couldn't be alone for almost 2 years and we have 2 kids so it was hard.

    That was then, this is now...

    And life is hard. You're 23, you better get used to it. Don't expect the government to support your family when you're not willing to help out because it's "stressful". Your husband deserves assistance but he probably also deserves a wife who has the determination to help her family survive. Good luck on having savings in 20 years.

    Righhhhhht. Because you know ALLLLLL about disabilities.

    I actually have quite a bit of knowledge about disabilities, however, I have no knowledge about veteran assistance or your husband's particular disability, which would be none of my business. I was just curious about your expectations of other people and why they don't apply to you.

    It's pretty clear that I'm running in circles with you though so I'm done.
  • cstoney2013
    cstoney2013 Posts: 167 Member
    I am working at a Federal prison and have been told I have to work and will not get a paycheck next week if the shutdown was not resolved today. So I will keep coming into work as long as I can. I figure I can last about 30 -45 days without a paycheck.

    Oh and I have been reading posts from alot of smug people who are sitting in judgement. Good for all of you who are so smart! Some people like me invest in other areas like real estate.. 5-6 years ago I had about 500-600 K in equity from it, and it was liquid in 30 days. Now it is a cash flow but not liquid, really. The point is the government is still collecting taxes, so not paying the workers is wrong, especially law enforcement. Oh and by the way if an inmate ends up injuring you and you go to the hospital- they put you on furlough status, really nice!

    And I have canceled a vacation, my daughters drivers education and a dog grooming appointment....so far
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