Pastry Chef: Immoral and Unethical?
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You are SO missing out.Here is the situation I’m currently facing and I don’t know what to do.
So I have a friend who announced that she was moving into a new profession. SHE IS BECOMING A GOURMET PASTRY CHEF!
So everyone is congratulating her on this big step in her life and all I can think is…WHY!? So she will be preparing pastries and directly contributing to the obesity epidemic in America. What’s next, should I congratulate the Marlboro man on the new gourmet cigarette brand he is coming out with? I just think it’s wrong for someone to knowingly provide sugar laden treats to others knowing the harm it causes. And even worse, these are gourmet treats which people are likely to eat even more of!
I don’t know. If it were me, I don’t think I would be able to live with myself if I knew I would be harming people like this long term. They are throwing her a going away party in a few weeks and she is going to be providing a sampling of her work for us. I’m still undecided if I should attend with these concerns. I’m not sure what kind of message that will be sending ya know?
What you guys think? Am I right? Or should I ease up, be happy for my friend and go to the party even if I feel like I’m compromising on my morals and ethics?
Um, you do know that pastry is an art, a scientific art. I assume you are sarcasming for fun. If not:
I don't have the patience to read the thread and responses.0 -
I think your stand is ridiculous and stupid OP
Nothing worse than zealots - whether it be about religion, food,whatever.
If you are joking, it s not a funny joke - kind of defeats the purpose of a joke if people don't recognise it as a joke.0 -
Your friend is basically Hitler.
Don't forget the dreaded
Pastri-llini
and
Pastizzi-tler
and
Mao Zedoughnut
The list of ebil pastry chefs who cause obesity epidemics may never end... You smash one's hands or cut their hamstrings and another one rises in their place...
and well really how can we not blame the poptartarazzi if they weren't feeding us the gifs all the time and bombarding our senses with images of these desirable delicacies, we may not feel as obliged to consume them.
ahem...
so I was wondering where do I go to get a cronut?0 -
Honestly I don't get where you're coming from. She isn't shoving pastries down anybody's throat, people have a choice whether they eat those things all the time, on occasion or not at all. She isn't evil and she isn't causing anyone harm - eating treats in moderation doesn't harm anybody. And if people choose to eat those things on a daily basis they're causing themselves harm and they have only themselves to blame.0
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Maybe not yet, maybe not yet,but we all now it's a small step from pastry chef to force feeding people sugary treats or even worse incjecting them intravenously :laugh:Honestly I don't get where you're coming from. She isn't shoving pastries down anybody's throat, people have a choice whether they eat those things all the time, on occasion or not at all.0 -
When I pause to consider how many members joined MFP because they are obese, I am not surprised that most of them are against banning pastries. Even if they lose weight, they are still obese in their hearts.
never been obese, but just so you know pastry in moderation can be enjoyed even by thin people.0 -
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Wow…I am still shocked my topic got this much attention. Quite frankly, I can’t say I’m surprised that the derisive and haughty comments have not abated but only seemingly intensified. Understanding the culture of this place will forever remain elusive to me it seems.
To the many who PM’d me their words of support, I thank you. I understand now your hesitancy to place those comments publicly.
To those who chose to save the most lethal of your arrows for PM’s, dipped in poison and ready to strike, well you have received your due reward.
I’m not sure if I will go, not sure if it even matters anymore. For those interested I might update on what happens. I’ll just leave these words to remember as we back into the future. Hopefully a little wiser and more understanding.
“One's dignity may be assaulted, vandalized and cruelly mocked, but it can never be taken away unless it is surrendered.”
Monkey I appreciate the humor...I love this...Liar Liar was one of my favorite movies0 -
No. No, it doesn't.I think your stand is ridiculous and stupid OP
Nothing worse than zealots - whether it be about religion, food,whatever.
If you are joking, it s not a funny joke - kind of defeats the purpose of a joke if people don't recognise it as a joke.0 -
I think your stand is ridiculous and stupid OP
Nothing worse than zealots - whether it be about religion, food,whatever.
If you are joking, it s not a funny joke - kind of defeats the purpose of a joke if people don't recognise it as a joke.
How many calories is in what I can only assume is a chocolate lava cake in your profile? Enough to feed a family of five. All downed by one person in 5 minutes.0 -
I'm finding this entire thread quite funny and entertaining, personally.
No. No, it doesn't.I think your stand is ridiculous and stupid OP
Nothing worse than zealots - whether it be about religion, food,whatever.
If you are joking, it s not a funny joke - kind of defeats the purpose of a joke if people don't recognise it as a joke.0 -
I'm finding this entire thread quite funny and entertaining, personally.
No. No, it doesn't.I think your stand is ridiculous and stupid OP
Nothing worse than zealots - whether it be about religion, food,whatever.
If you are joking, it s not a funny joke - kind of defeats the purpose of a joke if people don't recognise it as a joke.
QFT
No thread goes 19 pages without entertainment value.0 -
Lol, they have pastry chefs in France. Apparently it's more about portion size than the type of pastry. And really if you don't want to eat it, then don't.
Some people say NFL football should be disbanded because of the violent hits. So subjective points of view can be noted, but it should be up to the choice of the person. Don't see how this is immoral or unethical. It just doesn't jive with your morals and ethics.
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I think your stand is ridiculous and stupid OP
Nothing worse than zealots - whether it be about religion, food,whatever.
If you are joking, it s not a funny joke - kind of defeats the purpose of a joke if people don't recognise it as a joke.
I bet you're a blast at parties.0 -
Wait, what??? You can't be happy for your friend b/c she's going to be a pastry chef? Seriously? Pastries aren't causing obesity! Gluttony causes obesity! Pastries are cool! Eating an entire cake is not cool.
I was overweight because I ate too much. It's not Nabisco's fault I ate way too many Oreos! It's MY fault! And now I'm losing weight b/c I am accountable for how much I choose to consume.
I am so sick of people not be accountable and blaming others for their lack of discipline.0 -
Sugar does not aid obesity any more than any other food does. Over eating aids in obesity. Period. I know lots of people who don't like sweets and are huge because of pasta, and meat! Are you going to hate chefs because they cook food!!??? Please..the rule is everything in moderation. You are better off just ending your so-called "friendship" with this person because of your high and mighty ideology.0
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@lyzmorrison- TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!0
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Are you actually for real?! Your friend is not shoving too much food down people's throats, we all have choices to make regarding what we eat. Who doesn't love a nice pastry treat, we just can't eat them all the time. Someone else would get the job if she didn't, so how about actually being a friend and being happy for her.
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Wow... Pretty soon people will not be held accountable for anything they choose to do. Just because she makes delicious pastries doesn't mean they have to eat them to the point of obesity. Or would you have us all just living in a bubble having ****ing lean cuisine slushies pumped into our stomachs???
I 100% believe people should be accountable for what they do, including tempting people into eating foods they should not.
Do you think car makers should be held liable for car being able to go past 70 on the speedometer, too? I'mean 75 and up is clearly breaking the law AND tempting those who are prone to speed to do what is wrong. What about when people leave tips on the table, thieves walk by are being tempted to steal, should n't the people who left the money out in the open be held responsible?? What about knives, I mean, KNIVES are left on the table for any murder to pick up!!!! Shouldn't the waiters /waitresses be held responsible!!?!?!?!?!?!?0 -
Wow... Pretty soon people will not be held accountable for anything they choose to do. Just because she makes delicious pastries doesn't mean they have to eat them to the point of obesity. Or would you have us all just living in a bubble having ****ing lean cuisine slushies pumped into our stomachs???
I 100% believe people should be accountable for what they do, including tempting people into eating foods they should not.
Do you think car makers should be held liable for car being able to go past 70 on the speedometer, too? I'mean 75 and up is clearly breaking the law AND tempting those who are prone to speed to do what is wrong. What about when people leave tips on the table, thieves walk by are being tempted to steal, should n't the people who left the money out in the open be held responsible?? What about knives, I mean, KNIVES are left on the table for any murder to pick up!!!! Shouldn't the waiters /waitresses be held responsible!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Woah. I've never thought of this before. You make a lot of really good points, you're right. These are problems. There's no reason car manufacturers make cars for street use that can go over 100 MPH - - absolutely useless EXCEPT to break the law. Jesus, I never thought of any of that.0 -
Wow... Pretty soon people will not be held accountable for anything they choose to do. Just because she makes delicious pastries doesn't mean they have to eat them to the point of obesity. Or would you have us all just living in a bubble having ****ing lean cuisine slushies pumped into our stomachs???
I 100% believe people should be accountable for what they do, including tempting people into eating foods they should not.
Do you think car makers should be held liable for car being able to go past 70 on the speedometer, too? I'mean 75 and up is clearly breaking the law AND tempting those who are prone to speed to do what is wrong. What about when people leave tips on the table, thieves walk by are being tempted to steal, should n't the people who left the money out in the open be held responsible?? What about knives, I mean, KNIVES are left on the table for any murder to pick up!!!! Shouldn't the waiters /waitresses be held responsible!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Woah. I've never thought of this before. You make a lot of really good points, you're right. These are problems. There's no reason car manufacturers make cars for street use that can go over 100 MPH - - absolutely useless EXCEPT to break the law. Jesus, I never thought of any of that.
Mark my words...As technology develops...You will enter a highway...That roadway will transfer a RFID signal or some other new technology not otherwise known, which will communicate with your car. Your car will then be prohibited from exceeding that limit...You will pay for all of this0 -
Wow... Pretty soon people will not be held accountable for anything they choose to do. Just because she makes delicious pastries doesn't mean they have to eat them to the point of obesity. Or would you have us all just living in a bubble having ****ing lean cuisine slushies pumped into our stomachs???
I 100% believe people should be accountable for what they do, including tempting people into eating foods they should not.
Do you think car makers should be held liable for car being able to go past 70 on the speedometer, too? I'mean 75 and up is clearly breaking the law AND tempting those who are prone to speed to do what is wrong. What about when people leave tips on the table, thieves walk by are being tempted to steal, should n't the people who left the money out in the open be held responsible?? What about knives, I mean, KNIVES are left on the table for any murder to pick up!!!! Shouldn't the waiters /waitresses be held responsible!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Woah. I've never thought of this before. You make a lot of really good points, you're right. These are problems. There's no reason car manufacturers make cars for street use that can go over 100 MPH - - absolutely useless EXCEPT to break the law. Jesus, I never thought of any of that.
Mark my words...As technology develops...You will enter a highway...That roadway will transfer a RFID signal or some other new technology not otherwise known, which will communicate with your car. Your car will then be prohibited from exceeding that limit...You will pay for all of this
I'm waiting for my cake to be RFID so that it is logged automatically and then your chef friend would not be driving obesity. The sugar molecules get logged automatically and the tap gets turned off.
But until then she needs to be responsible; just like any bar not providing service to visible drunks.0 -
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Wow... Pretty soon people will not be held accountable for anything they choose to do. Just because she makes delicious pastries doesn't mean they have to eat them to the point of obesity. Or would you have us all just living in a bubble having ****ing lean cuisine slushies pumped into our stomachs???
I 100% believe people should be accountable for what they do, including tempting people into eating foods they should not.
Do you think car makers should be held liable for car being able to go past 70 on the speedometer, too? I'mean 75 and up is clearly breaking the law AND tempting those who are prone to speed to do what is wrong. What about when people leave tips on the table, thieves walk by are being tempted to steal, should n't the people who left the money out in the open be held responsible?? What about knives, I mean, KNIVES are left on the table for any murder to pick up!!!! Shouldn't the waiters /waitresses be held responsible!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Woah. I've never thought of this before. You make a lot of really good points, you're right. These are problems. There's no reason car manufacturers make cars for street use that can go over 100 MPH - - absolutely useless EXCEPT to break the law. Jesus, I never thought of any of that.
Mark my words...As technology develops...You will enter a highway...That roadway will transfer a RFID signal or some other new technology not otherwise known, which will communicate with your car. Your car will then be prohibited from exceeding that limit...You will pay for all of this
I'm waiting for my cake to be RFID so that it is logged automatically and then your chef friend would not be driving obesity. The sugar molecules get logged automatically and the tap gets turned off.
But until then she needs to be responsible; just like any bar not providing service to visible drunks.
Now that would be sweet...Some sort of internal calorimeter...Still doesn't take into account the harmful effects of what do or do not eat though...Mayb some sort of purification system would also need to be in order0 -
Mark my words...As technology develops...You will enter a highway...That roadway will transfer a RFID signal or some other new technology not otherwise known, which will communicate with your car. Your car will then be prohibited from exceeding that limit...You will pay for all of this
I'm waiting for my cake to be RFID so that it is logged automatically and then your chef friend would not be driving obesity. The sugar molecules get logged automatically and the tap gets turned off.
But until then she needs to be responsible; just like any bar not providing service to visible drunks.
you have a really good point evilgenie or whatever your name is. serving pastries to the obese is a lot like those bartenders who overserve people and knowingly give people who are already drunk more and more just to get the big tip from them. Those bartenders are in trouble if something bad happens from the drunk, so it should be the same with overfeeding the obese.
I don't know what RFID is but I don't need more tax and I don't know why car manufacturers are allowed to make illegal cars0 -
This cannot be serious. Tell your friend congrats on her new job and stop being a judgemental @ss.0
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And Wow...Only took 19 pages for civil discourse to start0
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And Wow...Only took 19 pages for civil discourse to start
And then it fell apart again on page 20.0 -
Wow... Pretty soon people will not be held accountable for anything they choose to do. Just because she makes delicious pastries doesn't mean they have to eat them to the point of obesity. Or would you have us all just living in a bubble having ****ing lean cuisine slushies pumped into our stomachs???
I 100% believe people should be accountable for what they do, including tempting people into eating foods they should not.
Do you think car makers should be held liable for car being able to go past 70 on the speedometer, too? I'mean 75 and up is clearly breaking the law AND tempting those who are prone to speed to do what is wrong. What about when people leave tips on the table, thieves walk by are being tempted to steal, should n't the people who left the money out in the open be held responsible?? What about knives, I mean, KNIVES are left on the table for any murder to pick up!!!! Shouldn't the waiters /waitresses be held responsible!!?!?!?!?!?!?
Woah. I've never thought of this before. You make a lot of really good points, you're right. These are problems. There's no reason car manufacturers make cars for street use that can go over 100 MPH - - absolutely useless EXCEPT to break the law. Jesus, I never thought of any of that.
Mark my words...As technology develops...You will enter a highway...That roadway will transfer a RFID signal or some other new technology not otherwise known, which will communicate with your car. Your car will then be prohibited from exceeding that limit...You will pay for all of this
I'm waiting for my cake to be RFID so that it is logged automatically and then your chef friend would not be driving obesity. The sugar molecules get logged automatically and the tap gets turned off.
But until then she needs to be responsible; just like any bar not providing service to visible drunks.
Now that would be sweet...Some sort of internal calorimeter...Still doesn't take into account the harmful effects of what do or do not eat though...Mayb some sort of purification system would also need to be in order
OP- I think you need to speak with a therapist about having a severe paranoia disorder or extreme narcissim to assume that you know what's best for everyone.
I'm sure your job has some negative effects on the community as wel land you did not see people poo poo-ing you for it. Grow up and congratualte your friend, this IS a great thing for her.0
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