13 Nutrition Lies That Made The World Sick And Fat
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Yep, 2/10 at best, would not bang. :laugh:This is a wolf in sheep's clothing article. It hides really bad information within some good information.
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This is a wolf in sheep's clothing article. It hides really bad information within some good information.
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Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))0 -
In to find later.
I don't agree with 2, 5, 7, 9 (olive and coconut oils are damn hard to fry with without smoking up the kitchen), and 12.
really i thought coconut had a high smoke point. I've never fried with it yet.
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Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?0 -
I kind of agree with this, but not for the reason the author states.It is often said that the only thing that matters for weight loss is “calories in, calories out.”
The truth is that calories matter… but the types of foods we eat are just as important.
My body has a tendency to say "put food in me" when what it means is "put {specific micronutrient} in me".
Lately, the only macronutrient I track is protein but I track vitamins A&C, calcium and fiber instead. I find it much easier to stick to my calorie goal when I make sure I get enough of everything else (as long as I don't buy doritos, those things are evil).0 -
Some nonsense, but not bad.
Yep. Better than the usual lists tbh. Some are exaggerated or taken out of context.0 -
1. It's correct stating eggs aren't bad.
2. A calorie is a calorie. Whether you eat 100 calories of protein or 100 calories of carbs, the ENERGY value is the same.What they should say instead is value of macronutrients in calories differ.
3.While saturated fats are essential for optimal health, a balancing of polyunsaturated fats with it provides more benefit than just saturated fat alone.
There's a fine line in saying this because lots of "unhealthy" foods contain saturated fats, so if the interpretation is to believe that saturated fats are fine to eat in excess, there may be a lot of weight gain.
4. Agree.
5. It's not for everyone, but like anything else, moderation of it is fine.
6. Coffee is fine. But when getting the "Designer" coffees there are usually filled with a ton of calories. And if one is an avid coffee drinker with all the excess calories, they'll get overweight just like anyone else who over consumes food.
7. Meat is just fine.
8. The healthiest diet is one that meets someone's daily macro/micro nutrients and fuels what ever output they do. An Olympic swimmer uses much more carb energy than someone that does yoga.
9. Correct about oils containing too much in Omega 6 and not enough in Omega 3's.
10. Low carb definitely works, but for about 90% of the people who diet on it, it's not sustainable.
11. Yep sodium is usually not a issue unless one has high BP issues.
12. Sugar is FINE in moderation. Demonizing it happens because too many people attribute it to the obesity epidemic. Truth is over consumption is the problem with obesity.
13. Fat can make you fat if you over consume it. Again, let's not look past actual calories in and out.
All in all there is some good take away from the article, but picking out information to support ones stance isn't any different than what the fitness industry states are the correct methods and diets. Peer reviewed studies should be looked and compared and the individual works out what they think will be best for them.
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Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have these studies?
It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
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Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have these studies?
It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).
This. I love me some carrots and sweet potatoes but too many and I turn orange. Moderation applies even to the 'healthy' foods.0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have these studies?
It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).
"It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant)."
True true...0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
Why make statements about 'facts' you've read and then refuse to provide the facts? Your assertion by itself means nothing but a study can impact people's perspectives, knowledge and opinions.
How can you educate anyone without tools (the studies being the tools in this case).0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
No bait, just wondering since you brought it up. Curious why you brought it up if you weren't willing to provide the studies.0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
Why make statements about 'facts' you've read and then refuse to provide the facts? Your assertion by itself means nothing but a study can impact people's perspectives, knowledge and opinions.
How can you educate anyone without tools (the studies being the tools in this case).
I didn't state it as "fact". I simply made a statement about some studies I had read.
I didn't realize in order to make comments I'd have to have textbook in hand. Especially since the OP started a thread asking for opinions....not in depth educational analysis.0 -
kNothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
Why make statements about 'facts' you've read and then refuse to provide the facts? Your assertion by itself means nothing but a study can impact people's perspectives, knowledge and opinions.
How can you educate anyone without tools (the studies being the tools in this case).
I didn't state it as "fact". I simply made a statement about some studies I had read.
I didn't realize in order to make comments I'd have to have textbook in hand. Especially since the OP started a thread asking for opinions....not in depth educational analysis.0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have these studies?
It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).
This. I love me some carrots and sweet potatoes but too many and I turn orange. Moderation applies even to the 'healthy' foods.
what do you have against beta carotene? :huh:
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Good article, too bad this is going to turn into a war zone. It happens every time someone points out the befits of a low carb lifestyle
In to watch...0 -
12. Sugar is Bad Because it Contains “Empty” Calories
Many think that sugar is unhealthy just because it contains “empty” calories.
This is true… sugar contains a lot of calories, with no essential nutrients.
But this is really just the tip of the iceberg.
Sugar, mainly due to its high content of fructose, can have severe adverse effects on metabolism and set us up for rapid weight gain and metabolic disease (102).
When we eat large amounts of fructose, it gets turned into fat in the liver and is either shipped out as VLDL particles, or lodges in the liver to cause non-alcoholic fatty liver disease .
Studies in humans show that excess fructose can lead to insulin resistance, elevated blood sugars, elevated triglycerides, increased small, dense LDL and increased abdominal obesity in as little as 10 weeks.
Fructose also doesn’t lower the hunger hormone ghrelin and doesn’t affect satiety in the brain in the same way as glucose. This way, sugar causes a biochemical drive in the brain to eat more and get fat .
This applies to fructose from added sugars, NOT the natural sugars found in fruits.
When consumed in excess, added sugar is associated with multiple diseases, including obesity, heart disease, type II diabetes and even cancer.
Sugar is probably the single worst ingredient in the modern diet.
Bottom Line: The harmful effects of excess sugar go way beyond empty calories. Sugar can have severe adverse effects on metabolism, leading to weight gain and many serious diseases.
The study he refers to I believe was done on obese sedentary people who were forced to eat 25% of their daily calories from fructose/glucose..... About 150g... or 3L of coke. O_o And you expect nothing to happen?
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Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
Why make statements about 'facts' you've read and then refuse to provide the facts? Your assertion by itself means nothing but a study can impact people's perspectives, knowledge and opinions.
How can you educate anyone without tools (the studies being the tools in this case).
I didn't state it as "fact". I simply made a statement about some studies I had read.
I didn't realize in order to make comments I'd have to have textbook in hand. Especially since the OP started a thread asking for opinions....not in depth educational analysis.
I just love being informed and I get a sad every time someone tempts me with new information but doesn't deliver. I could google it but then I would never know if it was the study or studies that influenced you.0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have these studies?
It's not good to eat a lot of most foods (context relevant).
This. I love me some carrots and sweet potatoes but too many and I turn orange. Moderation applies even to the 'healthy' foods.
what do you have against beta carotene? :huh:
Hey, I didn't give you permission to post pictures of my family. :grumble:0 -
I agree with most of it.
I drink a ton of black coffee and enjoy it that way. I eat whole eggs. I cook with coconut oil and eat butter. I don't worry about salt. I keep carbs relatively low. I try not to eat both high carbs and fats together. I keep sugar low.
I have hypercholesteremia, but have managed to cut triglycerides from 120 to 60. Ldl went up, but so did hdl as stated and ratios are all "ideal". I've had high cholesterol since I was a kid, so this is my condition; not a result of diet. If anything, my diet has improved my situation. Not a bad list, imo.0 -
Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
lol..thought as much
That's not the way it works. You make an assertion, you support it.0 -
Mostly a good article as it pertains to sedentary obese individuals trying to diet. Although; a fe things that caught my eye:
1) Low fat high carb mod protein is used with most top level athletes for a reason; it's effective for most people that are already fit, trying to get fitter. The effectiveness will depend on insulin sensitivity.
2) I don't think the claims on Gluten have been well substantiated as of yet; gluten sensitivity notwithstanding however I think most "sensitivities" are more placebo in nature (like diet soda), or could be confounded.
3) Again, for active individuals, there is no good research to conclude that fructose in moderation is a bad thing. Don't beleive me? Look up durianrider; his fructose consumption probably nears 100g a day and I can give you plenty of healthy athletes that have tremendous fructose consumption. This pertains to sugar in general as well. It is probably not a huge concern for the active populous. Oh yeah, last time I checked fructose from fruit is chemically and biological the same as other fructose molecules. I'm not even gonna get into the insulin bollocks or the pit falls of association research.
4) The assumption that the saturated fat claim has been disproved by one meta analysis; well half way on that. Saturated fat although is beneficial in moderation, and that is not public enemy #1; it still does increase inflammation, and could increase LDL in hyper responders. I'll stick with 8-15% until another meta analysis and more research comes out. Still controversy.
5) Referring to number one, it has been pretty well shown that a higher carbohydrate consumption benefits the performance athlete as well as the bodybuilder, due to some basic nutritional sciences. Alex Viada and Lyle McDonald has some great articles on this. I suggest everyone read their material. Unfortunately for the sedentary and overfat populations, carbohydrate metabolism is somewhat poor or very poor; it's also poor if you are in ketosis; meaning insulin sensitivity is bollocks; which leads these populations to feel better and get better health benefits off the low carb diets. Now their are exceptions; but this is the general trend.
Now, I am middle of the road guy; no black and white. However, I am a BIG advocate for actual exercise on the daily or at least 5 days out of the week. Whole shebang too for guys and gals whatever the goal is; strength training, cardio, coordination, mobility, flexibility all must be incorporated into training.0 -
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really... autism and gluten....
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I like it. I've heard most of these before. All I can say is that I sure hope they're right about the sodium, 'cuz I go over every single day! Lolol. Hard not to, unless you eat really clean. I don't know about the wheat thing, but I "try" not to eat a lot of bread anyways.
Thanks for sharing. 
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Nothing wrong with gluten if you're not sensitive or don't have an allergy.
There are some studies showing too much gluten to be bad for you. Something about it building in the intestines and robbing our nutrients. It's not good to eat a lot of bread anyway. ((shrugs shoulders))
Do you have a link to the studies?
Don't you have Google?
I'm not posting to debate and not taking de bait
lol..thought as much
That's not the way it works. You make an assertion, you support it.
Pick me apart all you want if it amuses you. I already agreed with your first comment about what I said. I've already said I wasn't stating it as scientific fact. So what more do you want?
I see many others stating opinion as fact.0
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