eating more than you think....
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Because I don't weigh my food, I dialed in a more dramatic calorie deficit—knowing full well that my actual calories consumed would probably have a margin of error that would wipe out a razor thin deficit. I log everything as accurately as I can, but since I eat out so often, weighing and measuring foods just isn't an option. I literally never cook my own meals. I also eat a lot of fast food, but that's easy to track, and whenever I eat at a national chain restaurant, that's easy to track too, but local restaurants and Chinese takeout? Kind of a minefield, and I always try to be on the safe side when counting calories at those places. :drinker:
I do the same thing, although I do also weigh my food whenever I am able to.0 -
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I mean most of these people on the street you see that have been skinny all their lives, they don't weigh out ....... corn flakes do they?!!! Instead they just get a bowl and tip the box until they see the amount they want
Seriously, you don't want to see my skinny son pouring out breakfast cereal, it has to be patted down to make room for the milk, he eats about 4000 calories a day and keeps his abs and 30" waist. So jealous
trust me its not all as it seems...
he might be more active or might not have much inbetween the day. there is always something
maybe even like my friend who has a fast motabilism and i didn't think that actually had a effect untill i met her, i just thought it was all myth
I'm an old guy, but I maintain at ~2700 *without exercise*. When I add in exercise, my daily maintenance can get into the high 3000s. I have no problem believing that an active young guy would maintain at around 4000.0 -
How do you know the difference in what the package says and the truth? How do you weigh your food?0
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I love my food scale. Not just to make sure I'm not having too much, but also to make sure I am getting a full serving of things I need and like. I find it hard to measure leafy greens by volume. I have also been pleasantly surprised by how much finely shredded cheese is by weight vs by volume. One thing I haven't been weighing is slices of bread! Thanks OP for tips0
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Thank you for putting this into perspective! I hear this all the time and i'm like.. "nah, i definitely log my food right" but event hough the package might say one thing you have to double check! never realized that the company themselves could be wrong… going to try to measure out my food a bit better. I don't' have a food scale anymore but i will be getting another one!0
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Agreed. A coworker of mine saw my Bodymedia and bought one for himself about 3 months ago. We often challenge each other on our daily calorie burns. He is 27, 140lbs and active but does not go to the gym or do formal exercise, he just stays busy at work and at home, and he always burns at least 4,000 calories. I'm lucky to hit 3400, that's with kickboxing, lifting, walking dogs.... But, if I was 300lbs again, I could probably beat him on occassion.I mean most of these people on the street you see that have been skinny all their lives, they don't weigh out ....... corn flakes do they?!!! Instead they just get a bowl and tip the box until they see the amount they want
Seriously, you don't want to see my skinny son pouring out breakfast cereal, it has to be patted down to make room for the milk, he eats about 4000 calories a day and keeps his abs and 30" waist. So jealous
trust me its not all as it seems...
he might be more active or might not have much inbetween the day. there is always something
maybe even like my friend who has a fast motabilism and i didn't think that actually had a effect untill i met her, i just thought it was all myth
I'm an old guy, but I maintain at ~2700 *without exercise*. When I add in exercise, my daily maintenance can get into the high 3000s. I have no problem believing that an active young guy would maintain at around 4000.0 -
Great post. Definitely an eye opener that's finally answering many questions I had. Thanks!0
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Buy a digital scale that weighs in grams. Weigh everything, especially for the first while. Put on the plate/bowl/cup, zero it out. Add one ingredient, weigh it, zero it out, add another... It doesn't take long and it is worthwhile.How do you know the difference in what the package says and the truth? How do you weigh your food?0 -
Thank you for putting this into perspective! I hear this all the time and i'm like.. "nah, i definitely log my food right" but event hough the package might say one thing you have to double check! never realized that the company themselves could be wrong… going to try to measure out my food a bit better. I don't' have a food scale anymore but i will be getting another one!
I haven't noticed HUGE ddifferences in what the package says vs what I have weighed. Enough of one that I will correct it. The big ones are what I measure by spoon or cup vs weighing it out.0 -
A scale (or 2) is probably one of the most important purchases I have made on this journey. When you first start losing you have quite a lot of leeway in terms of your deficit so if you set your goal a little lower you can get away without a scale for quite some time however once you have lost a chunk of weight and you are getting down to having very small deficits (250 cal / week for .5 loss) then you can easily blow that on one day of not weighing food.
If there was only one thing that I was allowed to but in order to lose weight this would be the thing..If you don't have a good scale, get one. It will change your life
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Incase anyone cares I have logged breakfast, morning snack and lunch. If i would have just gone off packages and measuring cups I would have logged 633 calories. But if I weigh it out its 835 calories. Difference of 202 calories. I still have my afternoon snack and dinner.... I am expecting a 400 calorie difference.0
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Does anyone have the video link to those studies where people were underestimating the food they ate? All these links are great, but there were some in a previous thread that I cannot find. Thanks!0
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This one?Does anyone have the video link to those studies where people were underestimating the food they ate? All these links are great, but there were some in a previous thread that I cannot find. Thanks!
You tube video on the differences between weighing and measuring food :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY 0 -
I guess it's time to start weighing. Good post0
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Yeah, right now I'm losing without weighing but I realize as I get closer to goal, I'll need to invest in a scale.
I'm with you on that one! Right now I'm making excellent progress on my own, but I too have realized that it will eventually be a necessary purchase to make. I'm trying to put it off as long as possible though
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This one?Does anyone have the video link to those studies where people were underestimating the food they ate? All these links are great, but there were some in a previous thread that I cannot find. Thanks!
You tube video on the differences between weighing and measuring food :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
No, it was an "official" study following people's eating throughout the day... Thanks though!0 -
very good post, I know people have told us over and over, and we just shake our heads. Sometimes we make it so hard, when it's so simple. Gotta just start weighing everything.0
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Was it the two videos referred to in this thread about underreported intake?BBC documentary about metabolism myths using double labelled water?
This one?Does anyone have the video link to those studies where people were underestimating the food they ate? All these links are great, but there were some in a previous thread that I cannot find. Thanks!
You tube video on the differences between weighing and measuring food :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
No, it was an "official" study following people's eating throughout the day... Thanks though!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1091852-reality-check-skinny-people-must-have-fast-metabolisms?0 -
I found this hit the mark!:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
Why Am I Not Losing Weight: 11 Reasons You’re Failing To Lose Fat
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Oh no… here it comes again. “I’m eating less, eating healthier and working out more. I’ve done everything right, but it’s still not working for me. Why am I not losing weight???”
I hear it so often that it’s beginning to haunt my dreams. Tons of people who are consistently failing to lose weight despite telling me that they’re doing everything right. What the hell? How can this be?
I’ll tell you how. In fact, to help you solve this problem once and for all, I’m going to give you a list of 11 possible reasons for why you’re not losing weight. Ready? Let’s do this…
1. You’re Eating Too Many Calories.
Here’s how it works, folks. Everything we do burns calories, and everything we consume (minus obvious stuff like water) contains calories.
Now, if the amount of calories being consumed is consistently greater than the amount of calories being burned, we gain weight. This is known as a caloric surplus, and it forces the body to store these left over calories in some form for later use. That form is most often body fat.
The good news however is that the opposite of this scenario has the opposite result. Meaning, if the amount of calories being consumed is consistently less than the amount of calories being burned, we lose weight. This is known as a caloric deficit, and it forces the body to burn some alternative fuel source for energy instead. That source is most often body fat.
What I’ve just described is the scientifically proven and always true energy balance equation commonly summed up as Calories In vs Calories Out.
So if you’re not losing weight… you’re simply eating too many calories and no deficit is present.
2. No, Seriously… You’re Eating Too Many Calories.
Maybe you accidentally skipped over #1. It’s cool. I skim articles all the time, too. So just in case you missed it, here’s your chance to go back up and read the first item on this list. It’s kinda important.
3. Maybe You Didn’t Hear Me: YOU’RE EATING TOO MANY CALORIES!
What, you thought I was joking? I’m not. The reason you’re not losing weight is because you eat too much. That’s it. A caloric deficit is the one big requirement here, and you simply don’t have one.
4. I Know You Were Hoping For Other Reasons, But There Aren’t Any.
Sorry to disappoint you, but there’s no big secret being hidden from you or any little tip that you’ve somehow missed. You’re just not creating the required caloric deficit. Simple as that.
5. Too Many Carbs After 7PM Is Causing… Nope… It’s Still Calories.
Hi. Above all else, weight control and body composition really do revolve around calories. Eat more of them and you gain weight, eat less of them and you lose weight. Taaadaaa!
And yes, I know you’ve probably heard otherwise. I get that you’ve probably seen some person claim that the key to weight loss is everything from carbs, to fat, to avoiding certain food groups, to eating 6 small meals per day, to not eating after a certain time at night, to only eating healthy “clean” foods, and on and on and on.
That’s all bull****.
Truth is, the key to weight loss (and weight gain) is and always will be calories. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot who should be ignored. And the product they are likely trying to sell should be avoided, too.
So while a lot of this other stuff definitely matters in terms of overall health and still definitely plays an important role in helping you improve your body, it’s always a distant second to calories when it comes to weight loss or a lack thereof.
More about this here: The Truth About Fat Loss
6. “But I’m NOT Eating Too Many Calories, I Swear!” Yes, You Are.
I know, I know. You’re counting calories and eating healthy and you know for sure that you’re eating the right amount that you need to eat in order to lose weight. Yet, you’re somehow still not losing weight.
Well, guess what? You’re wrong.
Underestimating
If there’s one thing damn near every nutritionist and diet professional can agree on, it’s that people trying to lose weight almost ALWAYS underestimate how many calories they are actually eating. It happens all the time, and various weight loss studies prove it.
Some people underestimate the quantity of food they consume (like thinking you ate 1 serving when you really ate 3 or 4), while others underestimate the amount of calories it contained (like thinking a meal was 500 calories when it was really 1000). Some underestimate both.
Mistakes And Under-Reporting
In fact, many people just screw up during the serving size measuring process and take significantly more than they think they’re taking. Leigh Peel shows a few examples of this right here.
Many other people just think there are certain “free” foods they can eat and not count… like fruits and vegetables for example. As if the calories they contain are magic calories that somehow don’t matter? Funny stuff. In reality, they matter just like any other calories matter, and they can add up pretty quick. Count them. Count everything.
And don’t forget the people who eat “tiny” amounts of something here and there and assume it’s so insignificant that they don’t even need to bother counting it. Guess what? The calories from that sort of thing adds up pretty quick, too.
Once again, this is all stuff that is seen over and over again, and it commonly ends up accounting for hundreds or sometimes even thousands of accidental “I-didn’t-even-realize-it” calories.
I actually show a typical real world example of this kind of thing right here.
Hell, many people just flat out lie about how much they are truly eating. Why? Because they’re apparently too embarrassed to admit what they eat (even to themselves), yet not too embarrassed to be and stay fat as a result.
You’re Unknowingly Getting It Wrong Somewhere
Now I’m not accusing you of being an underestimater, or a bad measurer, or a liar, or someone who’s just bad at counting. I’m just telling you the facts.
And the fact is, weight loss always happens when a caloric deficit is present. So if you claim to consistently be eating the right amount of calories yet still aren’t losing weight, then you’re simply not in a caloric deficit and had to have screwed something up somewhere.
7. “But I’m Burning Tons Of Calories, I Swear!” No, You’re Not.
I know, I know. You’re exercising like crazy and burning tons and tons of calories through cardio and weight training and are therefore in the caloric deficit you need to be in for weight loss to occur. Yet, for some unknown reason, you’re still not losing weight.
What could it possibly be? Oh, I know… the fact that infinite real world examples and various studies also prove that people trying to lose weight almost ALWAYS overestimate calories burned.
Yup, in addition to underestimating the calories we consume, we also overestimate the calories we burn. How’s that for a recipe for disaster?
So you know the “tons” of calories you assumed you’ve burned doing cardio? Yeah, that didn’t actually happen. Based on all of the research I’ve seen, an average person doing a typical form of cardio at a typical intensity will burn around 7-10 calories per minute on average.
Think about that the next time you assume 30 minutes on the treadmill is going to have some super significant calorie burning effect. It won’t.
Not to mention, another big problem with overestimating calories burned is that it gives people the false mindset of “Oh, I was on the elliptical for 25 minutes today, so I can surely afford to eat this extra 1000 calories now… right?”
They then proceed to cancel out whatever small amount of calories they burned (and then some), and then wonder why they’re not losing weight despite “working out all the time.” HA!
8. You MIGHT Be Gaining Some Other Form Of “Weight”
Okay, you got me… there’s an exception to some of the statements being made in this article, and there is a legitimate reason for why you might not be losing weight besides a lack of a caloric deficit.
What is it, you ask? Well, it could be that you ARE in that required caloric deficit and you ARE losing fat, but you happen to be gaining something else that is counterbalancing your weight.
See, even though we often use these words interchangeably, there’s a difference between weight loss and fat loss. Fat loss is always fat. Weight loss however can be fat, muscle, water, glycogen, poop or all of the above. And since most people only monitor their fat loss by monitoring their weight on the scale, your true progress can be temporarily hidden (this is extra true for women on a monthly basis).
This is why it’s a good idea to do more than just weigh yourself. For example, take measurements, take pictures, and get your body fat percentage measured.
Of course, the difference between “weight loss” and “fat loss” doesn’t change the calories in vs calories out equation. Nor does it change the fact that a caloric deficit is still the one and only requirement here. It just means that it’s possible to lose fat while gaining something else, and it can make it seem as though you haven’t lost any.
BUT… you must keep in mind that this scenario is just a short term thing at best. Meaning, if week after week is passing and you’re still not losing any weight, it’s HIGHLY unlikely that you just so happen to be simultaneously gaining some other form of weight (like muscle) this consistently.
Instead, it’s MUCH more likely that you’re just eating too many calories, not creating a caloric deficit, and are just not losing any fat, period.
I cover this weight loss plateau myth in detail here: Muscle Weighs More Than Fat?
Speaking of which…
9. The Dreaded Weight Loss Plateau…
Were you previously losing weight, but then it just stopped? If so, you’ve hit the dreaded weight loss plateau and that can only mean one thing: you’re still eating too many calories. Let me explain…
A weight loss plateau is what happens when the caloric deficit you successfully created has ceased to exist. There’s a few reasons for why this happens and why it’s so common, but it would honestly take its own article to fully explain (don’t worry, it’s on my to-do list).
But the gist of it is simple… calories in vs calories out still remains true, it’s just that your specific numbers in that equation have changed as a result of the weight loss you’ve already experienced.
This is partially because being in a deficit causes your metabolic rate to slow down a bit over time (a process known as “adaptive thermogenesis”), but it’s mostly just because you’ve already lost weight… so the calorie intake that worked when you were 250lbs doesn’t work the same now that you’re 200lbs.
And this is all just another way of saying that you’re eating too many calories for your new current weight and the required caloric deficit no longer exists. Eat a little less (or burn a little more) and you’ll magically break that plateau.
10. “Starvation Mode”
Ah yes, the always entertaining starvation mode. This is one of those subjects that’s going to need WAY more than a quick mention in an article to properly cover. Hell, it’s going to need a full article of its own just to define what it actually is and isn’t.
Most people using this term have no clue.
Fortunately, I’ve recently written that article and I highly suggest checking it out (after finishing this one, of course): Starvation Mode: Is It a Myth or Is It Real?
For now, allow me to briefly summarize the two most relevant points I make in that article.
First, the people who think they aren’t losing weight because they are “in starvation mode” are wrong. Instead, they are just failing to lose weight due to one of the reasons we already covered (e.g. you’re eating too many calories).
In this case, “starvation mode” is just one of the many silly things people throw out there as their excuse for failing to create a caloric deficit. Happens all the time. The solution of course is to fix your diet and training program, actually stick to it, and make sure the one and only thing you need to be doing (creating a caloric deficit) is actually being done.
The second point is that the definition of “starvation mode” most people have in their head is wrong and nothing more than a myth. So the idea that not eating enough is preventing you from losing any weight or even causing you to gain weight is just pure bull****.
However, there are certain aspects of “starvation mode” that are real, but they are better described as the “starvation response.” For example, your metabolic rate does slow down when you’re losing weight (due to a combination of adaptive thermogenesis and the fact that you weigh less than you used to).
And yes, the more excessively low your calorie intake is (and/or the more excessively high your output is), the more significant this “slow down” will be.
But the thing is, this “slow down” will never actually be significant enough to STOP or PREVENT weight loss from happening or somehow CAUSE weight gain. That’s a myth.
The truth is, there is no such thing as “not losing weight because you’re eating too little.” No matter how little you’re eating, you’ll always lose weight if a deficit is present.
So then what about that girl who claims to be “eating 800 calories per day and still isn’t losing weight?” Simple… she’s wrong. In reality, she’s miscalculating, underestimating and/or under-reporting her calorie intake and is consuming more than the 800 or whatever calories she claims to be. (Or, eating 800 calories most days is causing her to binge like crazy on other days, thus creating a wonderful scenario where she’s starving herself with very low calories some days, and then binge eating very high calories on others. In the end, the ‘binge calories’ beat the ‘starvation calories’ and no deficit exists.)
Like I said, it happens all the time. Take someone claiming to be eating very little and not losing weight. Lock them in a room and closely monitor/weigh/measure their food intake for them, and they will magically lose weight just fine. Studies like this have been done. Turns out they weren’t eating as little as they thought.
That’s the ironic thing about the concept of “starvation mode.” Certain parts of it are real (like your metabolic rate slowing down), but they’re either nowhere near as significant as people think (like that same metabolic slow down) or they’re just not what people think, period (“I skipped breakfast today… I’m probably already in starvation mode and burning muscle while gaining fat!!!”).
Which is just a long way of saying that the people who claim it’s their reason for not losing weight are incorrect. Instead, they’re just eating too many calories. Surprise surprise.
11. Legitimate (But Rare) Medical Issues.
I know we’d all like to believe that we’re failing to lose weight because some mysterious outside factor is screwing up our results. The thing is, it’s almost NEVER the case.
That’s why I find the “it’s my thyroid” thought so damn funny. In reality, you’re just not creating the caloric deficit that is required for weight loss to take place. Seriously, if your thyroid was capable of laughter, it would be laughing at you for trying to use it as an excuse for eating and exercising like a dumbass.
However, for the sake of being as complete as possible, I do want to mention that SOME people truly do have problems with their thyroid and/or other legit medical issues that can affect their ability to lose weight. Blood work is the only way to know for sure.
However, while this is real and it does happen, it’s probably not happening to you. You’re just eating too many calories.
And even in the cases when it IS happening to you, the reason for the lack of weight loss is still just a lack of a caloric deficit. The solution here however is less about eating less calories and more about solving the underlying health issue that’s preventing your body from burning as many calories as it should be.
The Big Point… Just In Case You Missed It
If you’re not losing weight, there’s likely a thousand different possible aspects of your diet and workout you might consider as the culprit. And of those thousand, you’d be wasting your time and energy giving a crap about 999 of them.
Instead, the true culprit is calories and the fact that you’re either eating too many of them or not burning enough of them. Even if you think you are… you’re just not.
If you were, you’d be losing weight.
So before you start focusing on the hilarious garbage, meaningless nonsense, and countless myth-based excuses that most people tend to focus on as possible reasons for why they’re not losing weight, step back for a second and take a closer look at exactly how many calories you’re eating and exactly how many calories you’re burning.
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sometimes calories can be wrong on the packet too!
I just got some pasta which was it was like 50 calories per 50g, i thought that was really off!
sent them an email and it turns out the printed it wrong and its like 3 times that!0 -
I have read a lot of posts where people swear they are logging correctly and not losing. Many people respond with "well you are eating more than you think." While it can sound harsh to some it obviously true. Yesterday I read a post where a woman wasn't losing at 1200 calories. She was told by many people to weigh her food and not just measure with cups/spoons. It got me thinking....
See here is my problem. I have lost weight, I have about 15 pounds left to reach goal. I know how to lose weight. Well the scale has been going up and down 5 pounds over the last few months. I really thought something was wrong with me. But I am not a special snowflake, even though I would love to be. So I knew I had to really look in to my diet.
Well my friend and I decided to weigh and measure my foods. My 1Tbsp of peanut butter which should have been 16 grams was actually 23 grams. Yogurt - the package says 150g ...it was 159g. Arnolds sandwich thin- package says it is 43g....one weighed in at 50g and another one 51g. This one made me feel really dumb. Apples- I usually log as a medium apple, because well there are bigger at the store and smaller ones. (yeah I know...dumb!) Well a medium one is 140g my "medium" apple was 210.
So I am guessing I have been eating 300-500 calories more a day than I logged. And yes that is why I haven't lost anymore.
I guess I am posting this because hopefully someone reads it and instead of insisting they are right and their body is playing games, they really look at what they are eating. I was really shocked. And now kind of sad because I have to eat less.
I always respond with, "your either logging wrong, forgetting to log things, or under estimating your portions..." and when I say that, they get very defensive and hostile. Fact is, either they are in a deficit, or thay are not. I used to "think" I was using 2 tablespoons of ketchup @ 20 cals per tablespoon... NO, I WAS USING ALMOST 8 TABLESPOONS OF KETCHUP @ 20 cals per tablespoon, with my eggs... Same think with cereal... in the bowl, it looked like 1 serving, but when I measured it, it was actually 2 and 1/2 servings... It all adds up. Every one is quick to say, "Oh, your not losing, your in starvation mode, eat more food, then you will lose..." NO!!! They are not in this fantacy starvation mode, THEY ARE JUST EATING MORE THAN THEY THINK, AND NOT IN A DEFICIT!!!
***edit to say... YES, 8 TABLESPOONS... I LOVE KETCHUP!!!0 -
I have a study link but I'm at work.
"Normal" people underestimated by like 400 calories and Registered Dieticians were off by like 200.
eta: actually I guess it's not the one you guys were looking for because it's not a video, just a study from PubMed. Reading comprehension fail. :blushing:0 -
This is the definition of obsessive. Some packages overestimate calories, and some even underestimate calories. Calm down, eat at your calorie goal, and let the rest even out.
This reminds me of the time I cried for 2 hours when I found out diet coke as 1 calorie per 8 ounces.
ETA: And yes this coming from someone who has been struggling with bulimia for some time now. I weigh most things, but even then, I know when things are getting too obsessive. You do not need to weigh a snickers bar before eating. You do not need to weigh a slice of bread. You do NOT need to weigh every little morsel of food that you put in your mouth.
Weighing is convenient and accurate when dealing with peanut butter, meats, veggies, cheese, etc. But, let's be honest -- there is no reason whatsoever to weigh mustard. If you're accidentally ingesting a few more calories due to inaccuracies, it's not going to kill you. It's not going to significantly affect your weight loss. (Oh, yes, I'm sure that extra 10 calories worth of coffee creamer is the reason why you're not losing weight each week.)
If a package of chips says 11 is the serving size, pick out 11 chips. Don't let food control your life, people. It isn't worth it.0 -
This is the definition of obsessive. Some packages overestimate calories, and some even underestimate calories. Calm down, eat at your calorie goal, and let the rest even out.
This reminds me of the time I cried for 2 hours when I found out diet coke as 1 calorie per 8 ounces.
The point is that if you can't measure accurately you can't just "eat at your calorie goal." Especially when people only have a small amount of weight to lose, there is a very small margin of error. Weighing food is another tool for people to learn to accurately log and achieve their goals. No one is crying here. They are learning.0 -
This is the definition of obsessive. Some packages overestimate calories, and some even underestimate calories. Calm down, eat at your calorie goal, and let the rest even out.
This reminds me of the time I cried for 2 hours when I found out diet coke as 1 calorie per 8 ounces.
crying over 1 calorie in diet soda... obsessive
reminding ourselves to accurately measure to avoid 200-400 a day calorie mistakes... responsible0 -
I am one of those who was actually underestimating calories and once I started weighing everything I got to eat more :bigsmile: As far as eating out, I try to save more calories during the day or make sure I burn more because I know I can't really weigh and have to guess what the servings are so I use the plate size estimates when I guess (I learned in a class at work).
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Right there with you OP! Thanks for this post! I had just recently begun to measure food on the scale vs. with the cups/spoons. 0
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I am one of those who was actually underestimating calories and once I started weighing everything I got to eat more :bigsmile: As far as eating out, I try to save more calories during the day or make sure I burn more because I know I can't really weigh and have to guess what the servings are so I use the plate size estimates when I guess (I learned in a class at work).
Great post!
my husband was so embarassed when i whipped my mini digital scale out at the mexican restaurant... HEY!!! i wanted to know what 1 serving of tortilla chips looked like, and how many serving were in one of the baskets!!!0
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