Military is now trying to give dress codes for civilians!
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OMG yes, yes, yes.
If only it could be extended to people in public, everywhere. The sloppy, unkempt look has taken over the grocery stores, the shopping malls, the schools, the workplace, etc. Ill-dressed people who look dirty.
And throw in visible tattoos and piercings.
And a great big "you kids get off my lawn" while we're at it.
And then fat people.
The poem First They Came comes to mind:
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
to speak out for me
~*~ Pastor Martin Niemoller0 -
I don't think there is any "trying" in this poster. They are telling people not in uniform how they may dress on the base. This is perfectly within their rights to do so, and no real surprise to those of us who have spent any time on a military base. I wouldn't get too upset over it, save your booty shorts for a visit to the mall :bigsmile: that's what I do :bigsmile:0
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The poster states prohibited on this facility nothing about off base.
I was in the Navy for 26+ years.....rules about dressing were applicable on the base not when you are off base. You still need to look respectable, though.
Whether in uniform or out you still have to follow the rules/regulations established....you are under contract 24/7/365.
I do not have a problem with this rule/regulation.0 -
I served 21 years in the military; I have been a DOD contractor, and now a GS civilian, for the last five years. We have always had a dress code! Maybe some lower level civilians working in a supply center or something like that. You may be able to get away with wearing jeans, or a T-shirt. If you work on a large staff; you are not afforded that luxury.0
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My experience has been once you are on a military base you are then governed by military law enlisted, civilian or otherwise.
Frankly i'm envious If i could impose most of those standards on the general public it would save a lot wishful eye gouging.
Yes, because your tastes and preferences are the only ones that matter, right?
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on base they should. though its definitely not new. they enforced it on navy bases when I served. at least at social gatherings on base0
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If only this dress code was extended to civilians! Or Walmarts! Except for the PT uniform of t-shirt & shorts, I agree with all of it.0
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It is right for them to do and I applaud them for doing it. Not only the military member but the dependents on base as well need to not dress like they are in prison or at a club. Alot of overseas Air Force bases and some stateside bases enforce these same rules. I wish that cities could enforce some of these same rules. (pants sagging, undergarmets showing, etc)
Also, on another note they should make it a federal law against fat chicks wearing half shirts! They call them half shirts for a reason....half the woman wearing them shouldnt be! LOL0 -
This only applies to OFF-DUTY MILITARY! It has nothing to do with civilians.0
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Banks tell people they can't wear sunglasses or hats in them, too. Schools have dress codes for their students. Most businesses have dress codes for their employees. I don't see what the big deal is.0
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Question is do they have the right to tell the people who visit there what they can and can not wear.
Of course they do. It's private property0 -
It's their right, the base! I don't see any problem with this rule! You are serving the in US army, navy or the marines! Oh by the way as people have said before its only on base, not off base!! So therefore the military is NOT trying to give civilians dress codes!!0
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Not to be argumentative, but I hate when people generalize an entire group of people. Some of the most well spoken and respectful people, and "well dressed," I have met recently have been teenagers rather than people from an older generation. Every generation feels this way about the one after them. Adults in the 50s thought the teenagers of the 60s were rebellious and disrespectful, 60s thought this of the 70s, 70s of the 80s...so on and so forth. It's nothing new, we just perceive it that way.I can see why this generation would have a problem with this as they are the problem. As a vet, and someone who has one child entering military service next year when he graduates from college and another one considering it in a year after he finishes law school, I have no problem with any of this when I was in or now that I am not. This generation needs to learn what the word respect means, not only for themselves but for others as well.
Jonathan
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Off duty means military members who are not currently in uniform. Not civilians.0
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inaccurate post is inaccurate0
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Also, even if this was for civilians, of course they have the right.
When you go on base you give up a lot of your rights. They don't need probable cause to search your vehicle or your person for instance. My car gets searched pretty regularly at the random security check-points.
If you live on base you give up the right to have a gun in your home. At least you do here. Guns have to be checked into the armory before you can go on base. You can get them back when you leave.
If I were concerned about the military infringing on civilian rights, I'd be a lot more concerned about those examples than I would be about a potential dress code.0 -
It is right for them to do and I applaud them for doing it. Not only the military member but the dependents on base as well need to not dress like they are in prison or at a club. Alot of overseas Air Force bases and some stateside bases enforce these same rules. I wish that cities could enforce some of these same rules. (pants sagging, undergarmets showing, etc)
Also, on another note they should make it a federal law against fat chicks wearing half shirts! They call them half shirts for a reason....half the woman wearing them shouldnt be! LOL
Well aren't you just a peach...0 -
its all on post/base yes not off anyone that is on them must not break the dress code.
Question is do they have the right to tell the people who visit there what they can and can not wear.
Sure, why not?0 -
inaccurate post is inaccurate
Yep.0 -
It is right for them to do and I applaud them for doing it. Not only the military member but the dependents on base as well need to not dress like they are in prison or at a club. Alot of overseas Air Force bases and some stateside bases enforce these same rules. I wish that cities could enforce some of these same rules. (pants sagging, undergarmets showing, etc)
Also, on another note they should make it a federal law against fat chicks wearing half shirts! They call them half shirts for a reason....half the woman wearing them shouldnt be! LOL
Well aren't you just a peach...
I just think it is digusting seeing woman with half their body hanging out in clothes that are way too small for them.0 -
LOL...I thought it said pajamas with HORSEshoes. I was like, Yeah! NOBODY should wear that!!!!!!0
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My experience has been once you are on a military base you are then governed by military law enlisted, civilian or otherwise.
Frankly i'm envious If i could impose most of those standards on the general public it would save a lot wishful eye gouging.
Love it!
Absolutely! They have to enforce it BC there is very little respect and common sense walking around these days!0 -
It is right for them to do and I applaud them for doing it. Not only the military member but the dependents on base as well need to not dress like they are in prison or at a club. Alot of overseas Air Force bases and some stateside bases enforce these same rules. I wish that cities could enforce some of these same rules. (pants sagging, undergarmets showing, etc)
Also, on another note they should make it a federal law against fat chicks wearing half shirts! They call them half shirts for a reason....half the woman wearing them shouldnt be! LOL
Well aren't you just a peach...
I just think it is digusting seeing woman with half their body hanging out in clothes that are way too small for them.
Yup, a peach.
Let's shame the way people look and dress in the same sentence.
ETA: The military certainly has the right to enforce dress codes in the same way any other institution (school, business, etc) has a right to enforce dress codes.0 -
its all on post/base yes not off anyone that is on them must not break the dress code.
Question is do they have the right to tell the people who visit there what they can and can not wear.
Yes. They do. As a matter of fact, the gate security can refuse your access to the base for any reason they dream up.0 -
It says "Prohibited OFF DUTY ATTIRE" ... unless you consider yourself an on duty civilian it doesn't apply to you. It is i reference to Military personnel who are off duty (ie out of uniform). They signed away their civil rights when they joined the military. They come under Military Law, so yeah they have to comply, I don't. Not that it's an issue for me, I don't dress like a gangs-ta! :laugh:0
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It is right for them to do and I applaud them for doing it. Not only the military member but the dependents on base as well need to not dress like they are in prison or at a club. Alot of overseas Air Force bases and some stateside bases enforce these same rules. I wish that cities could enforce some of these same rules. (pants sagging, undergarmets showing, etc)
Also, on another note they should make it a federal law against fat chicks wearing half shirts! They call them half shirts for a reason....half the woman wearing them shouldnt be! LOL
Well aren't you just a peach...
I just think it is digusting seeing woman with half their body hanging out in clothes that are way too small for them.
Yup, a peach.
Let's shame the way people look and dress in the same sentence.
ETA: The military certainly has the right to enforce dress codes in the same way any other institution (school, business, etc) has a right to enforce dress codes.
I have no problem with "bigger people" just stop trying to squeeze into crap 3-4 sizes too small0 -
If you live on or near a military post you might have to watch what your wear regardless of your military status. This kind of poster will be posted around the post and is enforced. Is this going to far? What is YOUR opinion....
Its their property not yours. They can make you do whatever they want. When you invite them over to your place then you can make the rules.0 -
:grumble: Way to inaccurately spread mistruths about the military.
It's only directed towards MILITARY personnel on base during their non-working times. They aren't going around giving tickets to civilians outside of base area, although... I wouldn't mind never having to see someone's buttcrack or underwear again unless I decide that I want to see it on my own terms.0 -
:grumble: Way to inaccurately spread mistruths about the military.
It's only directed towards MILITARY personnel on base during their non-working times. They aren't going around giving tickets to civilians outside of base area, although... I wouldn't mind never having to see someone's buttcrack or underwear again unless I decide that I want to see it on my own terms.
^^^THIS^^^0
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