Why diet cola could be making you FATTER and WRINKLIER

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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    Psychologically the brain experiences the sweetener as sugar and the brain readies itself for the sugar rush (I am guessing by damping down some neurotransmitters which are just about to spike such as endorphin).
    NO.

    Your entire case is made upon guesses which are contradicted by observed reality.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,523 Member
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    Just explain how you see diet coke as healthy?

    I dont agree with everything in this article but do believe diet colas can't be too good for you.
    Easy. I drink diet soda in place of a higher calorie drink to slay my sweet tooth. Means I can apply those saved calories to foods higher in nutritious value.

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  • ninerbuff
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    I just gave this article for people to read. Do with the information what you want. I'm not really phased.
    But it kinda shows that your understanding of how body physiology works is pretty limited if you believe the article in any sense.

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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
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    It doesn't make calories appear out of nowhere or something farfetched like that, it just confuses your body. When we taste something sweet, whether it's sugar or artificial, the body switches from operating off its own reserves to operating off the fresh intake. It expects to get energy. If you're drinking diet soda and not eating with it, then of course your body will eventually realize that it needs to go back to stored fuel. But if you're drinking it with a meal, then it can play havoc on how much of that meal is stored as fat.
    Even if that were true, converting sugar to fat and then burning it is less efficient than just burning the same sugar directly.
  • watfordjc
    watfordjc Posts: 304 Member
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    The Daily Mail never talk about dose when claiming something is dangerous for health, and when they do...

    "Eating one pack of crisps a day equivalent to drinking FIVE LITRES of cooking oil."

    Or as I put it: "Eating a can of tuna a day equivalent to eating A BLUE WHALE."

    So, off the top of my head the Daily Mail has suggested:
    Drinking sugary cola better for health than sugar-free cola.
    Smoking around smokers better for health than passive smoking.
    Despite the majority of UK households not having children, and a requirement for phone line and broadband customers being over 18, there should be an automatic porn filter to protect children.
    Glamorising celebrities and criticising their looks is bad for body image... you'll find links to our other stories somewhere to the right, surrounded by dozens of celebrity stories.

    Might as well point out another recent "study": "Why you should choose a pint over a coffee: Caffeine can shorten life expectancy - but alcohol lengthens it" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2519343/Coffee-beer-Your-choice-affect-lifespan--way-expect.html

    As everyone knows, we are all just like yeast, so the headline isn't misleading. Humans drop dead from salt consumption just like yeast does.

    Or, as they put it in February: "Three cups of coffee a day in middle age could add YEARS to your life" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2281760/Three-cups-coffee-day-middle-age-add-YEARS-life.html

    Hmmm... might as well point out an article that says the article quoted in the OP is BS from my reliable source, the Daily Mail. I'm sure Google will find something...

    "Sweeteners are not bad for you: Take the scare stories about diet drinks and sweets with a pinch of salt, experts say" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2371529/Sweeteners-bad-Take-scare-stories-diet-drinks-sweets-pinch-salt-say-experts.html
  • Fullsterkur_woman
    Fullsterkur_woman Posts: 2,712 Member
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    I just gave this article for people to read. Do with the information what you want. I'm not really phased.

    "Hi, I'm just throwing out BS and will change my views in any way possible so long as you buy my unreasoned conclusion that soda is evil"
    Sometimes I just want to hug you.
  • Fullsterkur_woman
    Fullsterkur_woman Posts: 2,712 Member
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    It doesn't make calories appear out of nowhere or something farfetched like that, it just confuses your body. When we taste something sweet, whether it's sugar or artificial, the body switches from operating off its own reserves to operating off the fresh intake. It expects to get energy. If you're drinking diet soda and not eating with it, then of course your body will eventually realize that it needs to go back to stored fuel. But if you're drinking it with a meal, then it can play havoc on how much of that meal is stored as fat.
    Really? Gonna go with that for your first post, huh? Buckle up.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Just to let you know I am 44 years old drank diet coke most of my life from pre-teen to late 30's and still indulge occasionally and I don't have a SINGLE wrinkle on my face. NOT. ONE.

    My fat is from weight I gained during 3 consecutive surgeries, not from diet coke especially as I reduced my consumption in the last few years.

    Sorry about your theory, it go down toilet.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Diet colas have long been regarded as the dieter's friend - but one-calorie fizzy drinks may actually be the reason you can't shift that stubborn spare tyre.
    Some logic murderers now believe the chemicals in the drink could actually be causing your body to lay down fat deposits around your middle - dubbed 'diet cola belly' - reports Get The Gloss.
    And that's not all: some jealous haterz also believe diet cola’s mix of carbonated water, colourings and sweeteners such as aspartame and acesulfame K could also speed up the ageing process, and have disastrous health consequences and that JFK died by the hands of a chupacabra who rode in on Santa's sleigh.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2520746/Why-diet-cola-making-FATTER-WRINKLIER-Low-calorie-drink-blame-spare-tyre-withered-skin.html#ixzz2n4PNxPAy
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    FIFY
  • cjfitnessme
    cjfitnessme Posts: 97 Member
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    Hmm I drink 2-4 diet colas a day and the only bad thing I can tell from it its addicting.
  • skinnybythanksgiving
    skinnybythanksgiving Posts: 159 Member
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    The spare tire was the last thing I was concerned about because so many other things were going on. I finally got off of all of it on 7-28-13. I am feeling much better. No more depression, mood swings, migraines, fatigue, etc. Thank you so much for posting this!:flowerforyou:

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/sweet-misery-a-poisoned-world/

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/29349-symptoms-aspartame-poisoning/

    http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

    http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=118882669B8D5155FFC0FA6E80D64F7D
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    In...

    ...for body confusion.


    (Hey, it has to be better than muscle confusion, right?)
  • CharChary
    CharChary Posts: 220 Member
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    Body fat is stored where body fat is stored and artificial sugar is not a determinant.


    yes
  • davert123
    davert123 Posts: 1,568 Member
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    Psychologically the brain experiences the sweetener as sugar and the brain readies itself for the sugar rush (I am guessing by damping down some neurotransmitters which are just about to spike such as endorphin).
    NO.

    Your entire case is made upon guesses which are contradicted by observed reality.


    Sorry but I am not :-) Its good you pulled me up though as there are a lot of people with opinion but no fact here...

    Here is one piece of research I've seen

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1805284

    To understand how this fits in you need to understand the relationship between beta endorphin, serotonin and blood sugar in some people (i.e. certain phenotypes of people) . There are more convincing arguments out there but this is the one that got me interested. I am currently looking into doing a PhD into the effects this triad as a precursor for some addictions :-) It is the reason this type of research and findings appeared several times when I was performing a quick literature review.

    This one is even more interesting. Its another jigsaw piece but it fits in quite nicely into the hypothesis I spoke about earlier :-)
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306362396005757
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    Psychologically the brain experiences the sweetener as sugar and the brain readies itself for the sugar rush (I am guessing by damping down some neurotransmitters which are just about to spike such as endorphin).
    NO.

    Your entire case is made upon guesses which are contradicted by observed reality.


    Sorry but I am not :-) Its good you pulled me up though as there are a lot of people with opinion but no fact here...

    Here is one piece of research I've seen

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1805284

    To understand how this fits in you need to understand the relationship between beta endorphin, serotonin and blood sugar in some people (i.e. certain phenotypes of people) . There are more convincing arguments out there but this is the one that got me interested. I am currently looking into doing a PhD into the effects this triad as a precursor for some addictions :-) It is the reason this type of research and findings appeared several times when I was performing a quick literature review.

    WRONG! I didn't need to understand any of that, all I needed to do was look in the mirror and see a flat belly and no wrinkles at age 38 and knock back another rum and diet coke. :drinker:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Just explain how you see diet coke as healthy?

    I dont agree with everything in this article but do believe diet colas can't be too good for you.

    Although I totally despise the mail because it is generally just a right wing brain wash paper and don't want to in any way support it I do think we have a case of an infinite group of monkeys and a Shakespeare sonnet lol I have seen peer reviewed research that shows that drinking diet coke can in fact increase weight indirectly. Psychologically the brain experiences the sweetener as sugar and the brain readies itself for the sugar rush (I am guessing by damping down some neurotransmitters which are just about to spike such as endorphin). Because the brain doesn't receive a sugar hit to compensate for its already slightly wound down preemptive state it can cause sugar cravings which can lead to people consuming unhealthy foods... that the hypothesis anyway. I would guess that there are many correlative as well as causal relationships going on though. It may be worth doing a trawl on scholar to see if any other research has been carried out

    Could you link the studies that show a causative effect.
  • Siansonea
    Siansonea Posts: 917 Member
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    Tinfoil hats, anyone?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    I dont agree with everything in this article but do believe diet colas can't be too good for you.

    Something not being good for you is not the same as something being bad for you.
  • mmm_drop
    mmm_drop Posts: 1,126 Member
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    IN. For science and scare tactics.
  • Musikelektronik
    Musikelektronik Posts: 739 Member
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    daily mail? enough said!

    QFT

    But seriously, how can people not know that the daily mail is a joke?

    Honey, we're Americans. We don't know **** about the Daily Mail. :laugh:

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