Looking for a detox/cleanse?
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Thanks and bump for my feed.0
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Needs more bumps.0
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Don't mind me. Just bumping things.
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Methinks this will require some major bumpage come January.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »Methinks this will require some major bumpage come January.
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I wonder if a lot of the yearning for the fresh start a "cleanse" might claim to provide is more of a mental reset that a person is looking for. Some kind of divider between the past and the future, their habits, themselves.1
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »I wonder if a lot of the yearning for the fresh start a "cleanse" might claim to provide is more of a mental reset that a person is looking for. Some kind of divider between the past and the future, their habits, themselves.
The best "mental reset", IMHO, is learning that you have all if the power over your weight and health, and not some stupid "detox" (or pill, or shake, etc.)
Which is why I will continue to advise against detoxes and cleanses and do my part to ensure this thread is visible come January.4 -
January is going to be dark days indeed.2
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
It starts in mid-December and continues on through about late January. Then round two in late February/March for spring breakers. Then March through August brings the summer vacation/summer wedding crowd. It's always worth keeping the useful stickies bumped throughout the year.2 -
I remember my trainer back in my "drink a gallon of whiskey a day" days telling me to "detox" with lots of water and fruit/veggies. I was pretty toxic those days lol, but her mantra was always "your body will take care of it. just fuel it properly.
Man, they sure have come out with lots of new "products" these past 37 years lol.
Oh - *bump*
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
^ I was wondering if January gets loaded up with a lot of woo posts or challenges. I've only been here since April and read the forums. I am just barely beginning to figure out my own body's patterns and needs so rarely post. I've lost 50 pounds with simple CICO and have not done any cleanses or taken any pills or cut out one specific food group and I'm STILL confused! It's been 8 months and I hardly know what's happening but what I'm doing is working and I'm not hungry.
So, In January the forums get a little tough to read, eh? Well, I guess we were all new to this once, right?
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
^ I was wondering if January gets loaded up with a lot of woo posts or challenges. I've only been here since April and read the forums. I am just barely beginning to figure out my own body's patterns and needs so rarely post. I've lost 50 pounds with simple CICO and have not done any cleanses or taken any pills or cut out one specific food group and I'm STILL confused! It's been 8 months and I hardly know what's happening but what I'm doing is working and I'm not hungry.
So, In January the forums get a little tough to read, eh? Well, I guess we were all new to this once, right?
You're not as confused as you think you are 3 -
Thank you @Cylphin600
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
^ I was wondering if January gets loaded up with a lot of woo posts or challenges. I've only been here since April and read the forums. I am just barely beginning to figure out my own body's patterns and needs so rarely post. I've lost 50 pounds with simple CICO and have not done any cleanses or taken any pills or cut out one specific food group and I'm STILL confused! It's been 8 months and I hardly know what's happening but what I'm doing is working and I'm not hungry.
So, In January the forums get a little tough to read, eh? Well, I guess we were all new to this once, right?
Nah it's like normal, but with more people who are flash in the pans, a rare few stick around.
You know what to do and you're doing it. Where's your confusion? You're eating fewer calories than you burn...you're losing weight at a good rate. You've got this
Everything else people post about is simply window dressing
It is just CICO
And trust me, the forums aren't quite as irritating as New Year Resolutioners getting in your way at the gym 3 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »I wonder if a lot of the yearning for the fresh start a "cleanse" might claim to provide is more of a mental reset that a person is looking for. Some kind of divider between the past and the future, their habits, themselves.
The best "mental reset", IMHO, is learning that you have all if the power over your weight and health, and not some stupid "detox" (or pill, or shake, etc.)
Which is why I will continue to advise against detoxes and cleanses and do my part to ensure this thread is visible come January.
It's a good point. "Detox" is basically just a pseudoscience packaging for a spiritual practice. Ritual cleansing, repentance, fasting, all that jazz, but the pseudoscience makes it easier to make money from it.
So if you feel the need of spiritual refreshing, maybe seek out an actual time-served ritual, like meditation for example, or make up your own. The great thing about traditional spiritual practices is they are generally free, and they rarely involve laxatives.5 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
^ I was wondering if January gets loaded up with a lot of woo posts or challenges. I've only been here since April and read the forums. I am just barely beginning to figure out my own body's patterns and needs so rarely post. I've lost 50 pounds with simple CICO and have not done any cleanses or taken any pills or cut out one specific food group and I'm STILL confused! It's been 8 months and I hardly know what's happening but what I'm doing is working and I'm not hungry.
So, In January the forums get a little tough to read, eh? Well, I guess we were all new to this once, right?
Nah it's like normal, but with more people who are flash in the pans, a rare few stick around.
You know what to do and you're doing it. Where's your confusion? You're eating fewer calories than you burn...you're losing weight at a good rate. You've got this
Everything else people post about is simply window dressing
It is just CICO
And trust me, the forums aren't quite as irritating as New Year Resolutioners getting in your way at the gym
Thanks! If I spend too much time on the forums (reading) I get all anxious about micros and macros and exercise and step tracking and and and...sometimes I have to force myself to take a step back and breathe. And remember this is working. (Took me 2 months to understand why my rate of loss was slowing.)
Very much so a learning process!0 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
^ I was wondering if January gets loaded up with a lot of woo posts or challenges. I've only been here since April and read the forums. I am just barely beginning to figure out my own body's patterns and needs so rarely post. I've lost 50 pounds with simple CICO and have not done any cleanses or taken any pills or cut out one specific food group and I'm STILL confused! It's been 8 months and I hardly know what's happening but what I'm doing is working and I'm not hungry.
So, In January the forums get a little tough to read, eh? Well, I guess we were all new to this once, right?
Nah it's like normal, but with more people who are flash in the pans, a rare few stick around.
You know what to do and you're doing it. Where's your confusion? You're eating fewer calories than you burn...you're losing weight at a good rate. You've got this
Everything else people post about is simply window dressing
It is just CICO
And trust me, the forums aren't quite as irritating as New Year Resolutioners getting in your way at the gym
Thanks! If I spend too much time on the forums (reading) I get all anxious about micros and macros and exercise and step tracking and and and...sometimes I have to force myself to take a step back and breathe. And remember this is working. (Took me 2 months to understand why my rate of loss was slowing.)
Very much so a learning process!
The sheer amount of information(both good *and* bad) that you can garner on these forums can definitely be overwhelming. A lot of the posts and threads I find tend to major in the minors, getting into outlier territory that applies to a very few, if any.
But once you figure out (like you have done) that CICO is at the heart of *all* weight loss - regardless of the vehicle used to achieve that calorie deficit - it becomes progressively easier to filter out the noise and spot the derp and woo.
Congrats for figuring it out!
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »January is going to be dark days indeed.
^ I was wondering if January gets loaded up with a lot of woo posts or challenges. I've only been here since April and read the forums. I am just barely beginning to figure out my own body's patterns and needs so rarely post. I've lost 50 pounds with simple CICO and have not done any cleanses or taken any pills or cut out one specific food group and I'm STILL confused! It's been 8 months and I hardly know what's happening but what I'm doing is working and I'm not hungry.
So, In January the forums get a little tough to read, eh? Well, I guess we were all new to this once, right?
Nah it's like normal, but with more people who are flash in the pans, a rare few stick around.
You know what to do and you're doing it. Where's your confusion? You're eating fewer calories than you burn...you're losing weight at a good rate. You've got this
Everything else people post about is simply window dressing
It is just CICO
And trust me, the forums aren't quite as irritating as New Year Resolutioners getting in your way at the gym
Home gym for the win.
@joans1976 - Sued0nim covered everything nicely, but I wanted to share that I went through a period where, even though everything was working just as the regulars said it would, I was losing weight, toning up, I still drove myself crazy looking for answers I didn't need.
Today - Keep it simple. As has been said, CICO first and foremost. If anything crops up along the way, just ask. I don't know a fraction of what the regulars here do, but I know how to follow simple instructions and suggestions. You do too. You're proving it now. Stay with it and don't let anything derail you. 3 -
@Cylphin60, @Sued0nim & @snickerscharlie
THANK YOU! Your kind (and patient) words mean so much. It's all so true. I got this.
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Hey MFPers.
With the rapid increase of new users there are many posts coming up asking for detox recommendations. I figured this would be a good time to provide some links explaining why you generally don't need to detox or cleanse.
Your body is readily equipped to handle toxins and in the event it cannot, you're in far greater need of medical attention than you are of any particular beverage or liquid diet.
For purposes of weight loss, you're essentially choosing to replace food with liquid calories (depending on the cleanse, but most fall under this category) resulting in what usually amounts to a VLCD. This isn't typically a good idea for a variety of reasons (mood, hunger signaling, skeletal muscle maintenance, performance) and moreover it represents yet another short-cut attempt rather than establishing proper habits.
The intent of my post isn't to insult anyone who comes here with the misinformed belief that they should detox/cleanse. The purpose is to provide information to hopefully save someone the wasted time, money, and potential ill health effects, not to mention the likely weight regain.
Please read the following links:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821828-detoxes-and-cleanses
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/927327-cleanse-why-you-are-lucky-they-don-t-work
http://www.burnthefatinnercircle.com/members/colon-cleansing-scam.cfm
http://www.biolayne.com/nutrition/detox-diet-scams-and-product-scams-get-called-out-by-real-scientists/
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/fashionable-toxins/
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/toxins-the-new-evil-humours/
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-detox-scam/
http://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-detox-delusion/
As you state so well, the body is efficiently equipped to handle the majority of toxins thrown at it - those it can't require medical attention.... just a thought1 -
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