The Daniel Plan
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Here's what the OP is referring to, I believe:I used to attend a church that participated in this fast at the beginning of the year each year. It is a nice way to cleanse your body from the holiday foods as well as to focus your attention on God and his plan for your life for the year. I think it is an awesome tool and a great form of worship!
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Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.0 -
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
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LOL @ fishes, loaves, wine. I have NOT read the book....and as such won't blast Rick Warren. I am a bit surprised he would do a book like this ( and I do like some of his other books). But again---haven't read it so cannot judge.
I do the Daniel Fast every year in January....as part of praying and fasting to seek God. To me it is NOT a diet, but a means by which to pray and draw closer to God through the sacrifice of certain foods.
I fast: simple carbs ( bread, pasta, chips, crackers, etc.). Sugar/sweets. Alcohol. I don't fast meats as most do. I need the protein....and to me bread and pasta are a bigger sacrifice.
As far as Daniel in the bible? He forsook meat and the rich foods in exchange for vegetables...he believed that the foods the King ate were unclean (defiled). He wanted to honor God by not eating defiled foods.
IMHO.... Don't do it to lose weight....as many PP's have stated...there are better programs out there for that.
This totally. The Daniel Plan is based on what the prophet Daniel did. I agree with others who think this is a way for Rick Warren to make money off from the obesity epidemic that we face in this country. I also agree with a lifestyle change that has to be sustainable for the individual person. I, personally, am not someone who could "just" eat whole foods. I do try to eat well, but also like to enjoy some "less healthy" options as well. For me, it's all about moderation.0 -
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/
It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.0 -
Nope. In fact the plan virtually requires you to form small groups and talk about it. Read up.
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/
It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.0 -
Nope. In fact the plan virtually requires you to form small groups and talk about it. Read up.
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/
It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.
I didn't realize MFP filled with people of various religious backgrounds (or lack thereof) constituted as a small group. Good to know.
Neither did I realize promoting it through various forms of media was also keeping it to a small group.
Things you learn.... 0 -
Wouldn't know. I'm an atheist, so I usually ignore threads about God.
Nope. In fact the plan virtually requires you to form small groups and talk about it. Read up.
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/
It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.
I didn't realize MFP filled with people of various religious backgrounds (or lack thereof) constituted as a small group. Good to know.
Neither did I realize promoting it through various forms of media was also keeping it to a small group. Things you learn....
Guess you could report the thread if it offends you. 0 -
Wouldn't know. I'm an atheist, so I usually ignore threads about God.
Nope. In fact the plan virtually requires you to form small groups and talk about it. Read up.
The OP didn't say Daniel Fast.Ya know. If someone wants to do Biblical fasts in order to increase their spirituality with God, then I'm all for it.
But let's not try to pass it off as a legitimate weight loss diet. Especially one that is only temporary.
^This. And doesn't the Daniel Fast require people to NOT talk about it? Just saying.
http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/
It's based off the Daniel Fast..my bad. But if you are going to carry the "religious principles" of the fast to the diet plan, then my words still hold true on that.
I didn't realize MFP filled with people of various religious backgrounds (or lack thereof) constituted as a small group. Good to know.
Neither did I realize promoting it through various forms of media was also keeping it to a small group. Things you learn.... Guess you could report the thread if it offends you.
Nah. I'm not offended by discussions. And I'm not Christian/Catholic/and so on either. It just seems a bit hypocritical.0 -
I didn't know they had artificial sweeteners in the biblical times? I was JUST about to start this plan too. For religious reasons, but then...splenduh there were no splenda's in the bible...hurr durr.0
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LMAO the dr's names....
"* Dr. Hyman’s top superfoods
+ Dr. Amen’s best brain foods"
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http://www.danielplan.com/healthyhabits/shoppinglist/ courtesy of sabine
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^yum.i'm sorry, I don't take diet advice from fairy tale books
But Hansel and Gretel did have good morals....Don't leave your kids in the woods, don't go into candy houses, and don't let old crones fatten you up so they can eat you.
He probably doesn't take diet advice from Hansel and Gretel either.
Well if he gets fat and an old crone eats him, he only has himself to blame.
BAHAHAHA! Love it!
And I just realized that my comment can be taken in a dirty manner.....
Just don't rage quit like twig and berries.0 -
i'm sorry, I don't take diet advice from fairy tale books
Yup.
I don't understand what's wrong with having a calorie deficit and eating everything in moderation?0 -
In... for fishes and loaves.
And wine.
I just kicked off this new plan by eating Swedish Fish. 2014 is gonna be my year!0 -
Well, all the 'science' I have seen suggests otherwise.To each his/ her own. If you want to know he science you can of it yourself and make your own decision. I'm convinced and it's working for me.
Perhaps you could direct us to what you have seen that's convinced you and explain your thinking around it.
The problem I find with people that don't want to "get involved" is that all to often it's actually they don't like their own preconceptions being challenged because they haven't thought them through well enough!0 -
I'm surprised this thread is still open .. WTH .. moderators must be slow today..0
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Honestly as a Christian I'm a little offended that someone would take the story of Daniel and try to make it into a weight loss plan. If that's what you got out of the story, you're doing it wrong.0
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The Daniel fast is a plant based diet. Look in the book of Daniel. He didn't eat the kings meat (standard American diet) but instead ate pulse and beans and looked better than the kings men after. It's what science is telling us. Eat plant based non processed healthy food. Rick Warren just repackaged it for money. Google Daniel fast instead of Daniel plan.
Science doesn't tell us that at all. Also, "looked better" is very much a matter of preference.
Also I'm pretty sure everyone in the Bible was very concerned with their visual image. LOL.0 -
Honestly as a Christian I'm a little offended that someone would take the story of Daniel and try to make it into a weight loss plan. If that's what you got out of the story, you're doing it wrong.
^^^ Amen... Im just reading this all and SMH
And you wonder why people are so turned off by Christians.. pisses me off...
This diet plan takes the cake (hmmm.. now I want cake)0 -
I never heard of this, I had to look it up.
As far as diet fads go, it seems pretty reasonable. It doesn't appear to be just a diet, but a lifestyle plan with spirituality mixed in. I just skimmed it, but the diet portion seems to be like the paleo diet sans meat? As long as your get in your recommended protein, I don't see an issue with this "program".
Religion is a huge motivating factor for many people, I don't see the problem with applying it to fitness. Actually, I wish more churches and religious segments would do the same. I've seen far more dangerous and ridiculous faith based fitness programs out there. Scientology anyone?!?!
I looked it up as well the other day to see what it was. The food list I saw, included most meats, except for pork. It said to have 50% of your plate non-starch veggies, 25% lean meats, and 25% whole grains. Plus a side of fruit.
The diet itself sounds very healthy, but I love pork too much to give it up. It also is lower fat than my body prefers, as nuts and seeds, and other healthy fats are used only sparingly.
As for the marketing of it, yes, it appears to be a way for Pastor Rick to make another killing like he did with Purpose Driven Life. Doesn't make what he says bad, but when tons of money start rolling in, it can corrupt the motives of even the strongest of Christians.
But hey, if it helps some people in the Christian community to start living healthier lifestyles, than go for it. I grew up in the Southern Baptist community and gluttony was definitely not considered a deadly sin in our church. The potluck suppers are always awesome!0 -
Honestly as a Christian I'm a little offended that someone would take the story of Daniel and try to make it into a weight loss plan. If that's what you got out of the story, you're doing it wrong.
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In... for fishes and loaves.
And wine.
I just kicked off this new plan by eating Swedish Fish. 2014 is gonna be my year!
I want all this...but in the form of sharkeys fish tacos and target box o wine malbec. IN for daniels strange but easy to come by diet!0 -
I didn't know what the Daniel Plan was either until I read this thread. Although I can't say I'm interested in going this route, I'm disappointed to see how many people are getting caught up in the religious aspect when these forums should be a place for advice and encouragement, not judgement. I would consider myself agnostic and yet I still think its important to acknowledge other beliefs, perspectives, and ideas.
If a "religion based" plan works for you...more power to you. Our common goal here is to maintain healthy and happy lifestyles. If you can't say anything nice (or at least helpful!) don't say anything at all.
Cheers to the original poster for seeking more information in her quest for health and fitness!0 -
My step son and his wife have changed their lives following this plan. Before beginning this plan he (age 48) was more than 100 pounds overweight had just been diagnosed as having diabetes and he had severe sleep apnea, high blood pressure, and other health risks. She was 80 pounds overweight and was having joint pain, high cholesterol and angina. Both had very sedentary lifestyles, loved wine and frequently indulged in high caloric gourmet foods They are also members of Saddleback Church where the Daniel Plan was began. In the last 18 months he has lost nearly 100 pounds, has become a runner, and if focused on good health and fitness. His wife has had a more difficult time but she has lost 50 some pounds and is also now a runner. He is a leader of a "Walk and Worship: group and has an online blog for interested folks. Their diet is indeed plant based, organic, and avoids sugar and all white flour. As they both love to cook I think it's been an enjoyable process for them as they try and invent new and modified recipes. I would say while it is not for me because of my limited ability to prepare food, it is a highly successful program and to me ultimately nothing can help us more than our faith in God to help us honor our own lives.0
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This is directly from the site:
"The Daniel Plan focuses on the core food groups of healthy carbs, healthy fats, healthy protein, healing spices, drinks, and super foods. And The Daniel Plan gives an easy guideline to use for any meal:
50 percent non-starchy veggies
25 percent healthy animal or vegetable proteins
25 percent healthy starch or whole grains
Side of low-glycemic fruit
Drink—water or herbal ice teas with"
Ok, people who think this program is so awesome, please explain what a "healthy" protein is. Because a gram of protein is a gram of protein and going to equal 4 calories, whether it comes from organic free range chicken or a mostly-circus-animal-some-filler taco from Taco Bell. If it fits in your macros and calorie count, you're going to lose weight.0 -
If you're talking about The Daniel Plan by Rick Warren, a lot of people complained that there's not enough REAL diet info in it. But if you're looking for some kind of Faith based weight loss program, then I'd recommend finding a First Place 4 Health group. They cover all the bases, including diet specifics. You can do them in a local group, online group, or alone (although the support really helps w/success).
www.firstplace4health.org
^^This! This program is much better as far as nutrition info goes. It includes higher protein and healthy fat, for a more balanced diet.0 -
I didn't know what the Daniel Plan was either until I read this thread. Although I can't say I'm interested in going this route, I'm disappointed to see how many people are getting caught up in the religious aspect when these forums should be a place for advice and encouragement, not judgement. I would consider myself agnostic and yet I still think its important to acknowledge other beliefs, perspectives, and ideas.
If a "religion based" plan works for you...more power to you. Our common goal here is to maintain healthy and happy lifestyles. If you can't say anything nice (or at least helpful!) don't say anything at all.
Cheers to the original poster for seeking more information in her quest for health and fitness!
Stahp it! I'm gonna hurt myself from falling out my chair laughing so much. I'm so sure, "i am dissappointed ppl get caught up in religion"....lol. better go correct the REST OF THE HUMAN population. OMG i die.0 -
This is directly from the site:
"The Daniel Plan focuses on the core food groups of healthy carbs, healthy fats, healthy protein, healing spices, drinks, and super foods. And The Daniel Plan gives an easy guideline to use for any meal:
50 percent non-starchy veggies
25 percent healthy animal or vegetable proteins
25 percent healthy starch or whole grains
Side of low-glycemic fruit
Drink—water or herbal ice teas with"
Ok, people who think this program is so awesome, please explain what a "healthy" protein is. Because a gram of protein is a gram of protein and going to equal 4 calories, whether it comes from organic free range chicken or a mostly-circus-animal-some-filler taco from Taco Bell. If it fits in your macros and calorie count, you're going to lose weight.
Holy my gawd...i think I just found my new years resolution I"M GONNA drive my hubby as crazy with this murky and vague and impossible to pinpoint diet as he has with the Paleo ONLY I am totally gonna trump him b/c GOD! muahahahahahaaaaaaa!0 -
I didn't know what the Daniel Plan was either until I read this thread. Although I can't say I'm interested in going this route, I'm disappointed to see how many people are getting caught up in the religious aspect when these forums should be a place for advice and encouragement, not judgement. I would consider myself agnostic and yet I still think its important to acknowledge other beliefs, perspectives, and ideas.
If a "religion based" plan works for you...more power to you. Our common goal here is to maintain healthy and happy lifestyles. If you can't say anything nice (or at least helpful!) don't say anything at all.
Cheers to the original poster for seeking more information in her quest for health and fitness!
Stahp it! I'm gonna hurt myself from falling out my chair laughing so much. I'm so sure, "i am dissappointed ppl get caught up in religion"....lol. better go correct the REST OF THE HUMAN population. OMG i die.
It might be time for you to take a break from the computer for a little bit before you hurt yourself. Just a suggestion!:flowerforyou:0 -
Honestly as a Christian I'm a little offended that someone would take the story of Daniel and try to make it into a weight loss plan. If that's what you got out of the story, you're doing it wrong.
I don't wanna offend you b/c i'm a christian too, but does this robe and aura make my butt look big? b/c i just decided to do the daniel thing too. it looks way more comfy than my shorts, yo.
(i didn't know they had curling irons in the year 1?)
:laugh:
Very slimming. :flowerforyou:0
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