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We have free speech in the UK too you know
And there is a difference between genetics which would determine where you hold excess fat - and learned behaviours which give you the flab and lack of muscle definition
the latter is solvable with re-education and commitment, the former just is0 -
We have free speech in the UK too you know
And there is a difference between genetics which would determine where you hold excess fat - and learned behaviours which give you the flab and lack of muscle definition
the latter is solvable with re-education and commitment, the former just is
Must be nice! Over here in Germany we have these Community Guideline (All Hail!) that supersede that free speech thing. Gotta watch what we post or off to the gulag with you it is.
I agree genetics, environment, upbringing and culture all influence our actions but we own our behaviors and outlooks about how we measure success.0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.-1 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for.0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.
Who did I insult? The post was directed at the people who were being aholes and bullies with that part, and the complimentary part was directed at the people who were being constructive to answer the first part of your question. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.
Who did I insult? The post was directed at the people who were being aholes and bullies with that part, and the complimentary part was directed at the people who were being constructive to answer the first part of your question. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
Last I checked, calling people names is being insulting.
And this is the last I'm going to say. You've already derailed this thread enough by misreading the op.0 -
Iron_Feline wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.
Who did I insult? The post was directed at the people who were being aholes and bullies with that part, and the complimentary part was directed at the people who were being constructive to answer the first part of your question. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
Last I checked, calling people names is being insulting.
And this is the last I'm going to say. You've already derailed this thread enough by misreading the op.
Yea because me posting that the journey can be discouraging was waaaay more derailing than the X amount of lengthy posts from people who want to find different ways to tell me I'm not allowed to feel that way.
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Iron_Feline wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.
Who did I insult? The post was directed at the people who were being aholes and bullies with that part, and the complimentary part was directed at the people who were being constructive to answer the first part of your question. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
Last I checked, calling people names is being insulting.
And this is the last I'm going to say. You've already derailed this thread enough by misreading the op.
Yea because me posting that the journey can be discouraging was waaaay more derailing than the X amount of lengthy posts from people who want to find different ways to tell me I'm not allowed to feel that way. :wk Smh
You are "allowed" to feel however you want. People are posting about effective strategies to manage that frustration.
Of course, if you prefer to wallow in frustration and discouragement rather than focus on what you can change - you go right ahead and keep comparing your joy away. The advice is there, how you use it, is totally up to you.
Btw, you keep posting about your rights, what you are allowed, legitimacy, etc. - that's a very consistent legalese vocabulary about how you perceive your rights to be in a place where no one is challenging them. If you feel generally oppressed by people around you (and their genetics) consider discussing this victim mentality with a friend or counsel.0 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You read into my first response and decided it was an insult. There was no insult intended in it. The point was genetics are not going to keep you from having a flat stomach. I added the part about it being fine to decide at some point that the extra effort required to get our body fat low enough for abs is not worth it. That's not calling you lazy, it's recognizing that not having a lean belly is not the end of the world. I wasn't being a jerk, stop reading into it.0 -
Obviously you were just picking and choosing which posts to read and which responses, which is your perogative. Some people don't deserve a response but i tend to defend myself. Occupational hazard coming from an attorney.EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Iron_Feline wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.
Who did I insult? The post was directed at the people who were being aholes and bullies with that part, and the complimentary part was directed at the people who were being constructive to answer the first part of your question. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
Last I checked, calling people names is being insulting.
And this is the last I'm going to say. You've already derailed this thread enough by misreading the op.
Yea because me posting that the journey can be discouraging was waaaay more derailing than the X amount of lengthy posts from people who want to find different ways to tell me I'm not allowed to feel that way. :wk Smh
You are "allowed" to feel however you want. People are posting about effective strategies to manage that frustration.
Of course, if you prefer to wallow in frustration and discouragement rather than focus on what you can change - you go right ahead and keep comparing your joy away. The advice is there, how you use it, is totally up to you.
Btw, you keep posting about your rights, what you are allowed, legitimacy, etc. - that's a very consistent legalese vocabulary about how you perceive your rights to be in a place where no one is challenging them. If you feel generally oppressed by people around you (and their genetics) consider discussing this victim mentality with a friend or counsel.
"Don't think that" is not a strategy. But I'm not going to argue with u anymore. Some people know how to offer constructive advice but clearly it's not everyone's forte, and me pointing it out is not going to change anything about that.0 -
I lurk on this post every day, but don't think I've ever posted on it before.
Truth is...you have no idea what your body is capable of doing or looking like until you get your nutrition on point & develop some kind of lifting program. I have taught Jazzercise for 14 years & was convinced I was always going to be a little overweight, have a belly, be a size 12 (or 10 if I was lucky). I'm 5'2" so that's not a great look. I thought I was stuck. I was stuck, but it was my mind that was stuck in low calorie/high cardio & my body was paying the price & seeing no results.
I did research, mostly on these boards & bodybuilding.com, started seeing results. Found this thread & have found it to have all the solid advice I sought in 1 spot. Hello to size 4 jeans & shorts, more energy when I teach, and loads more confidence.
Don't tell yourself you're stuck in a body shape until you've seriously attempted the steps in the 1st post of this thread.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
More often than not, those people who "eat like crazy" just simply don't eat like crazy.
Agreed. There was a British documentary where scientists used a tracking device (can't remember what it was exactly) that allowed a team of scientists to get a pretty accurate measure of how much people were actually consuming.
They took an obese woman and her friend who was "skinny". Both women thought that the skinny woman ate tons of food all the time and that the obese woman could eat a slice of cake and gain 10lbs.
Even with the obese woman writing what she wrote down, it turned out she was underestimating what she ate and she did admit to forgetting to track a few things.
In the end it turned out that the obese woman was eating a lot more than she thought and the skinnier woman was eating at maintenance (which wasn't "high", I think. Definitely not at the level of eating "All the foods" for sure)0 -
[b[ Obviously you were just picking and choosing which posts to read and which responses, which is your perogative.[/b] Some people don't deserve a response but i tend to defend myself. Occupational hazard coming from an attorney.EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Iron_Feline wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
Generally I'm referring to the people who eat like crazy and don't work out but dont gaimLooking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
In that case be a rebel - that someone your family can look-up to and say "We can do it. It's possible. She did it".
You may or may not get that chiseled 6 pack ab look but you gotta think outside the box. Take a different route b'coz if plan A doesn't work there are 25 other letters waiting.
And yes it's okay to say whatever one wants in America but it's absolutely OK in America to challenge that opinion.
Good Luck.
I agree. That's why I'm always posting on here to get new ideas... tips on how to get healthy meals or quick workouts when you work long hours, etc. I was just posting what makes me discouraged just like others do. I didn't say it was impossible with my genetics, i just said i sometimes look at my family and feel that way. Some people have genetics that make it alot easier. The fact that I have to work alot harder can be frustrating. I don't see what's abnormal about that.
Genetics are a factor, I am not denying that, but how do you know someone has genetics that make it 'a lot easier'? That's a big assumption when you do not know people's circumstances. Seeing the current avi of the poster above -would you think they had 'good genetics' or would not have to work really really hard to get to a low body fat?
We all have our personal challenges along the way - I do not think anyone (or at least most) have it easy. We just need to take them on board and forge ahead in the best way we can.
I certainly don't think all people who are thin have it easy. Generally I'm referring to people who eat junk all the time and don't exercise AT ALL and have thin parents and they're thin, though often I see it catches up with them. a girl was talking to me in the locker room this weekend. Literally tiny, like 5 '1, size zero. she had to skip her work out to meet some friends and I told her I didn't think she needed it so it was okay. And she said she works out 7 days a week, and that her friends always say they don't notice a difference because she's always been skinny all her life, but she says now she's starting to have muscle definition and not just be skinny. But then she said she tried meeting with the trainer and she hates them because they push her to work hard and sweat and all of that and she wants to work out at a leisurely pace so that its Fun. I count calories, workout regularly, etc and after a week lose 2 pounds and feel like I'm working harder and harder not having fun, and running on a treadmill or doing TRX or pushups or things using your own body weight or most things are super hard when you're over 250 pounds. So theres certain specific people that i think have it easier than me in terms of genetics. I realize that's like but doesn't make me any less frustrated to say that's life.
Why do you focus so much energy on things you can't change?
Are you frustrated by richer, prettier, smarter, funnier people?
My 10 year old asks me why her sister has a bigger slice of cake.
She's learning to mind her own plate.
The whole fitness thing is about achieving the potential of your own genetics, not some random strangers.
I'm sure you can find enough people that are worse off than you if you really need to spend time comparing "genetics".
I didn't think i focused that much energy on it i was just explaining what sometimes frustrates me, a practice that some apparently want banned. I wish i could be sorry that it bothers you so much.
I wish you could understand when people are taking time out of their days to offer you advice that would improve your outlook.
Oh i do. I'm fully aware of the difference between people offering advice, which i have responded to and thanked them for, and people who just thrive on being aholes and bullies, which my ignoring skills need work on.
Is this directed at the OP or at me? Telling you to focus on the things that you can change is bullying in what country?Iron_Feline wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »Looking at all the flabby pears in my family, sometimes i think i just don't have the genetics for it
My family carries their weight in their belly. I "don't have the genetics for it" plus I had kids. It's okay to say that the effort required to have a flat stomach or low body fat isn't worth it, but genetics doesn't mean you can never have it.
Here I thought it was okay to say whatever I want in America. My thoughts are legitimate even if you think your wording of everything is perfect. It can be discouraging to have an entire family with no fit people, especially when it's a very large family. So you can call me lazy in whatever backhanded way u want I still work my *kitten* of at the gym and try to eat healthy all the time with slow progress and it still lingers in my mind that maybe I don't have the genetics for it and I'm allowed to say what's in my mind last I checked.
But not okay for her to respond? I'm pretty sure "'Murrka" covers her speech too.
Well, I mean, if the first amendment had anything to do with any "right" to say whatever you want on a privately owned message board without possibility of dissenting rebuttals...which it doesn't.
Yea ok i was talking about the original response way back that was something to the effecr of its ok to say you're too lazy to do the work but not ok to think it's genetics or whatever. And i was like ol thought it was ok to say what i think but apparently u only have that right I'd you're being a jerk but whatever. Over it.
You're finding insults where there are none.
But she's good at throwing them out. And something about "rights".
Where is that victim gif when you need it?
And in an attempt to not let the orginal intent of the thread go completely down the gutter.
The fact remains that nice stomach is going to take time and effort and the attitude "it's due to these things I can't control" isn't going to help. I've learned that along the way, even if I still don't have the 'nice stomach' I want, I know I own it.
Who did I insult? The post was directed at the people who were being aholes and bullies with that part, and the complimentary part was directed at the people who were being constructive to answer the first part of your question. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
Last I checked, calling people names is being insulting.
And this is the last I'm going to say. You've already derailed this thread enough by misreading the op.
Yea because me posting that the journey can be discouraging was waaaay more derailing than the X amount of lengthy posts from people who want to find different ways to tell me I'm not allowed to feel that way. :wk Smh
You are "allowed" to feel however you want. People are posting about effective strategies to manage that frustration.
Of course, if you prefer to wallow in frustration and discouragement rather than focus on what you can change - you go right ahead and keep comparing your joy away. The advice is there, how you use it, is totally up to you.
Btw, you keep posting about your rights, what you are allowed, legitimacy, etc. - that's a very consistent legalese vocabulary about how you perceive your rights to be in a place where no one is challenging them. If you feel generally oppressed by people around you (and their genetics) consider discussing this victim mentality with a friend or counsel.
"Don't think that" is not a strategy. But I'm not going to argue with u anymore. Some people know how to offer constructive advice but clearly it's not everyone's forte, and me pointing it out is not going to change anything about that.
Oh? *looks back at the post that set this whole thing off*
Oh. I see.0 -
pscarolina wrote: »I lurk on this post every day, but don't think I've ever posted on it before.
Truth is...you have no idea what your body is capable of doing or looking like until you get your nutrition on point & develop some kind of lifting program. I have taught Jazzercise for 14 years & was convinced I was always going to be a little overweight, have a belly, be a size 12 (or 10 if I was lucky). I'm 5'2" so that's not a great look. I thought I was stuck. I was stuck, but it was my mind that was stuck in low calorie/high cardio & my body was paying the price & seeing no results.
I did research, mostly on these boards & bodybuilding.com, started seeing results. Found this thread & have found it to have all the solid advice I sought in 1 spot. Hello to size 4 jeans & shorts, more energy when I teach, and loads more confidence.
Don't tell yourself you're stuck in a body shape until you've seriously attempted the steps in the 1st post of this thread.
@pscarolina Thank you so much for sharing that! It's nice to hear that someone has seen success following the steps. I didn't come up with all of it, I just shared the information that I had learned along the way in hopes that condensing it for others might help. Thank you again!1 -
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