When will people understand that you can't spontaneously....
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Prednisone made me so jittery I felt like I was on crack...
I literally didn't sleep for days.0 -
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Not overnight but yes some can cause people to gain up to 30 lbs in a 3 month or so span. I know when I switched bp pills(from an ACE to a Beta blocker) I did. Some like steroids used in auto immune things do and like someone else mentioned its because hunger increases.
My antidepressant I actually found I lost weight the first few weeks easily but because I LOST appetite from nausea. After awhile it evened out.
I'd like to get off both meds. I take the antidepressant for anxiety disorder that had me having panic attacks most times I was in the car(driving or not) and while in lines or just walking through the store. Its seems under control and I never even needed to increase the dose from the starter dose. I will be working to try weaning off with my prescriber on that one. Then as I get weight off my bp drops naturally on its own so hope it will this time so I can be off all meds.0 -
From experience, absolutely you can. I was at 205 lbs for ages, had one week of steroids, and I went up to 213 lbs. One month later after eating HORRIBLY (it was the Holidays last year, I was easily eating 4000 calories a day) I had lost 5 lbs.
Water weight, not fat.0 -
From the [admittedly brief] research I've done on the topic, most of what causes weight gain in people using certain medications is an increase in appetite. Antidepressants and Diabetes medications most notably cause an increase in appetite, which in turn takes a day where you feel just as sated with food that you no longer maintain with.
Corticosteroids do cause trouble with using blood sugar, and that can increase the amount fat that is deposited in the body, and makes it more difficult to access the stored energy in those fat deposits.
Depakote causes a weight gain in 8-9 percent of people, but the majority of them lay the blame on increased desire for sweet foods as opposed to their previous intake.
Birth control medications come in a wide variety, but seem to fall into one of three camps. They either will increase the amount of water retained, increase appetite or cause abnormal glucose metabolism. However, sympomatic weight gain of more than 10 percent is usually indicative of an onset of insulin resistance which should be addressed with/by your doctor.
However, I am not a doctor, just a student that took a Nutrition and Metabolism course one time.
Not to mention anti psychotics. My son's pediatrician put him on these and his appetite went totally out of control - so much so that he put on 20kg in 6 months which is huge for a then 11 year old.0 -
You need to do some research before you say things
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/expert-answers/beta-blockers/FAQ-20058385
But, sometimes, it's not so much weight gain, as it is almost impossible to reduce weight. But, beta-blocker cause weight gain
This doesn't explain how. It is either doing 1 of 2 things. Slowing down your metabolic rate, or making you more hungry. This is how weight gain works due to drugs.
That page even talked about water weight gain which isn't fat.0 -
I'm sorry that you don't believe it's possible. It's a documented FACT.
As is this:
I currently eat MORE than I ate at nearly 600 pounds, and I weigh LESS daily.
Why?
Metabolism.
Hormones.
However, I'm glad that you know everything that there is to know about this:)
Ever heard of metabolic supression? The way to combat it is by eating more calorise which will cause weight loss.
Also just because you eat more doesn't mean you're consuming more calories. You can be consuming higher volumes of food.0 -
Maybe not spontaneously as in overnight, but give it about 3 weeks on say, Lyrica, for example, and your body takes on water like a sponge and the metabolism up and vanishes. 3 months on it with exercise (because the doc had warned me from before about the weight gain) but the weight ballooned and wouldn't budge at all. Took some time off of it to finally start getting back to normal-ish. Meds that affect your nervous system mess with the metabolism. Some people can't stop their meds, or they have to increase the dose, and poof, the pounds keep coming, then the depression about it hits, then more pounds, etc.0
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Maybe you can explain to me then why I gained 50 pounds in 2 months when I was 16 and went on the pill when there were no other changes in food and exercise? Medicines can certainly change the metabolism and mess with hormones. It's a fact. it has nothing to do with calories.
Totally agree with everyone else who has said some version of this.
I gained 10 lb that showed 100% as a bloated horrible roundness in my face in 14 days of being on steroids for a spider bite. It was awful. It wasn't the food I consumed, which was actually less than usual due to being in shock and extremely upset because the doctors talked about amputating my leg where the bite was.0 -
Maybe you can explain to me then why I gained 50 pounds in 2 months when I was 16 and went on the pill when there were no other changes in food and exercise? Medicines can certainly change the metabolism and mess with hormones. It's a fact. it has nothing to do with calories.
Totally agree with everyone else who has said some version of this.
I gained 10 lb that showed 100% as a bloated horrible roundness in my face in 14 days of being on steroids for a spider bite. It was awful. It wasn't the food I consumed, which was actually less than usual due to being in shock and extremely upset because the doctors talked about amputating my leg where the bite was.
Once again it's water weight, not fat. You didn't create fat out of nothing.0 -
When I was younger, I used to be fit and healthy... until I hit puberty. I ballooned up to almost 320 lbs, lost my memory, and many other things. Turned out I had a pituitary tumor that affected my hormones and sent me spiraling into my vast body. It was not a matter of me eating too much, my hormones were all out of whack.
So maybe until you know a situation, do not make judgement on others.0 -
hm yeah, I guess that makes sense
metabolic rate decrease makes scientific sense, but I still don;t see how 50 or so pounds can be gained from being on a shot? I'd cut my intake immediately if I noticed a 5-10 pound gain even 
All kinds of things can chage metabolic rate. Mine changed drastically just by virtue of entering my 40s. You can't always just stop. I can't just decide to be in my mid 30's instead of my mid 40's. (I can do other things though, which is why I'm here). And, I'm suspecting that quite a few of the medications that contribute to metabolic change and weight gain (or loss for that matter) offer some benefit that might be pretty important. I mean, if it's a choice between weight gain and a hard time battling say a heart attack or crippling depression, I'd take the weight gain and probably ***** a blue streak ... then suck it up and figure out how to have my cake and lose it too.0 -
When I was younger, I used to be fit and healthy... until I hit puberty. I ballooned up to almost 320 lbs, lost my memory, and many other things. Turned out I had a pituitary tumor that affected my hormones and sent me spiraling into my vast body. It was not a matter of me eating too much, my hormones were all out of whack.
So maybe until you know a situation, do not make judgement on others.
your hormones caused you to move less or eat more. That simple.0 -
After having the depo shot I gained 10kg in a week without changing a thing (eating healthy, exercising) it can happen :-(0
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I'm sorry that you don't believe it's possible. It's a documented FACT.
As is this:
I currently eat MORE than I ate at nearly 600 pounds, and I weigh LESS daily.
Why?
Metabolism.
Hormones.
However, I'm glad that you know everything that there is to know about this:)
Ever heard of metabolic supression? The way to combat it is by eating more calorise which will cause weight loss.
Also just because you eat more doesn't mean you're consuming more calories. You can be consuming higher volumes of food.
First, stop acting like a condescending @$$.
Second, PCOS doesn't work that way. You cannot eat more to "increase your metabolism," in part because it's not metabolic suppression - at the very least not in the manner you're suggesting.
In women, especially, the interactions of insulin, estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and cortisol play a huge role in weight. Exponentially more than they do in men (particularly the non-insulin hormones). Fluctuations in the body's sensitivity to, and/or production of, insulin can even, by itself, cause massive changes in weight. That's why one of the main symptoms of Type 1 Diabetes is weight loss and the inability to gain weight.
Insulin, particularly, is the key to whether we store or release fat. If insulin levels are low, the body burns fat. If they're high, it stores it. In an otherwise healthy body, the insulin levels fluctuate such that the body can store or burn fat as needed, but when the body swings too far in either direction and stays that way, weight issues ensue, often despite dietary efforts to counteract it. To provide an example - I also have PCOS, and as a result, my insulin levels run high. This means that despite eating at TDEE-10%/20%, I couldn't lose weight - at all. Why? Because between my insulin running high and the subsequent insulin resistance, my body never got the signal to burn stored fat. There was even a time when I ate as low as about 1200 calories for about a week and it had no effect. Fast forward to now, when I'm on Metformin (which increases insulin sensitivity), I'm actually exercising less than I was previously, and eating around the same deficit and pretty much the same foods, and I'm losing weight. The only difference? The change in insulin sensitivity.
Back to the other hormones - as I mentioned, all the aforementioned hormones affect one another. Things like birth control (pill, shot, ring, it doesn't matter; if it's hormonal, it screws with the balance) screw with the balance, which cascades to the other hormones, resulting in - you guessed it - weight fluctuations (usually in the upward direction).
Now, yes, if you want to be technical, part of the issue is likely due to changes in metabolism, but that's not the question here. The question is whether these things can cause weight gain without changing eating or exercise habits. The answer to that is a resounding yes. Should the person catch it before it gets to 50lbs? Perhaps, though depending on how they carry their weight, and what kinds of clothes they wear, it's easy to miss for quite some time if they're not weighing themselves all the time. Again, I can use myself as an example - my weight can fluctuate by upwards of 20lbs before I see much of a difference even in tape measurements. And it's generally more than 30-40 before I see changes in clothing size. So yes, for some people, it does take quite a bit of weight before they notice that something is wrong.0 -
Um…because those are known side effects, based on the science? You don't have to get all anecdotal and woo woo about it. These are known side effects of some medications. Can they be overcome or managed? Yes. But is it a real side effect of some meds? Yes. I don't' know why you find science so crazy...0
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and i think what the OP means is what is exactly stated in the OP: no one wakes up overnight and finds themself 30+ pounds overweight. unless of course they were in some type of coma.
THIS.
Everybody seems a little riled up at my post, like I'm being judgmental. I was just trying to clear the air, and I still don't believe you can gain over 50 pounds without eating MORE (increase in appetite) like one poster said
However, it wasn't stated as such. The way it was stated sounded like you were saying people who say this are using it as an excuse. That we all eat abhorrent quantities and don't want to admit it.
You then go on to ask if weight gain by being on meds it true. We're providing answers.
I gained 30lbs in 8 months. I was exercising daily, eating 1300-1500 calories per day (including exercise calories). By all the calculations (TDEE, etc), I was eating a safe amount, with a 500-600 calorie daily deficit. I was also on Yaz. So I came off Yaz, and gained another 10lbs in a month and a half. Then I was diagnosed with PCOS. My hormones are out of whack, which is why I gained all the weight. Half of it was gained before I even realized I was gaining, because I hadn't changed a damned thing in my life. I don't step on the scale daily, because I have a history of eating disorders. Avoiding the scale is a preventative measure against relapsing. My clothes still fit for 20lbs of that gain, so by the time I realized my workouts weren't working, it was "too late"
Whether you believe it or not, gaining 50lbs by *not* eating more is completely possible, and has been demonstrated by many people, not only on this site, but in numerous medical studies for any medication that list "weight gain" as a possible side effect.0 -
Agree!0
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I mean agree with other responses,
Meds absolutely make u gain!0 -
I'm sorry that you don't believe it's possible. It's a documented FACT.
As is this:
I currently eat MORE than I ate at nearly 600 pounds, and I weigh LESS daily.
Why?
Metabolism.
Hormones.
However, I'm glad that you know everything that there is to know about this:)
Ever heard of metabolic supression? The way to combat it is by eating more calorise which will cause weight loss.
Also just because you eat more doesn't mean you're consuming more calories. You can be consuming higher volumes of food.
First, stop acting like a condescending @$$.
Second, PCOS doesn't work that way. You cannot eat more to "increase your metabolism," in part because it's not metabolic suppression - at the very least not in the manner you're suggesting.
In women, especially, the interactions of insulin, estrogen, testosterone, progesterone, and cortisol play a huge role in weight. Exponentially more than they do in men (particularly the non-insulin hormones). Fluctuations in the body's sensitivity to, and/or production of, insulin can even, by itself, cause massive changes in weight. That's why one of the main symptoms of Type 1 Diabetes is weight loss and the inability to gain weight.
Insulin, particularly, is the key to whether we store or release fat. If insulin levels are low, the body burns fat. If they're high, it stores it. In an otherwise healthy body, the insulin levels fluctuate such that the body can store or burn fat as needed, but when the body swings too far in either direction and stays that way, weight issues ensue, often despite dietary efforts to counteract it. To provide an example - I also have PCOS, and as a result, my insulin levels run high. This means that despite eating at TDEE-10%/20%, I couldn't lose weight - at all. Why? Because between my insulin running high and the subsequent insulin resistance, my body never got the signal to burn stored fat. There was even a time when I ate as low as about 1200 calories for about a week and it had no effect. Fast forward to now, when I'm on Metformin (which increases insulin sensitivity), I'm actually exercising less than I was previously, and eating around the same deficit and pretty much the same foods, and I'm losing weight. The only difference? The change in insulin sensitivity.
Back to the other hormones - as I mentioned, all the aforementioned hormones affect one another. Things like birth control (pill, shot, ring, it doesn't matter; if it's hormonal, it screws with the balance) screw with the balance, which cascades to the other hormones, resulting in - you guessed it - weight fluctuations (usually in the upward direction).
Now, yes, if you want to be technical, part of the issue is likely due to changes in metabolism, but that's not the question here. The question is whether these things can cause weight gain without changing eating or exercise habits. The answer to that is a resounding yes. Should the person catch it before it gets to 50lbs? Perhaps, though depending on how they carry their weight, and what kinds of clothes they wear, it's easy to miss for quite some time if they're not weighing themselves all the time. Again, I can use myself as an example - my weight can fluctuate by upwards of 20lbs before I see much of a difference even in tape measurements. And it's generally more than 30-40 before I see changes in clothing size. So yes, for some people, it does take quite a bit of weight before they notice that something is wrong.
PCOS wasn't mentioned in what i qouted. In your case, what controls insulin? Calories, it's still a caloric issue regardless. You do have a medical condition, which is understandable. Regardless though, the issue is calories. Eat less to lower insulin levels.0 -
Seems harsh to judge others about something you haven't experienced yourself. Aren't we all here for the same reason? I am here for information and support on my weight loss journey, not to judge someone else if they aren't succeeding. Seems like those folks might need more support not less. Certainly ridicule is not going to help.0
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Seems harsh to judge others about something you haven't experienced yourself. Aren't we all here for the same reason? I am here for information and support on my weight loss journey, not to judge someone else if they aren't succeeding. Seems like those folks might need more support not less. Certainly ridicule is not going to help.
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whoaaah what?
cite anything in my post that sounded like I was "ridiculing" anybody at all.
man people are touchy on this site, I was asking a general question about an observation I'd made, no people were mentioned, darlin'.0 -
PCOS wasn't mentioned in what i qouted. In your case, what controls insulin? Calories, it's still a caloric issue regardless. You do have a medical condition, which is understandable. Regardless though, the issue is calories. Eat less to lower insulin levels.
1. I have a feeling you're OP, and bored tonight.
2. If you're not OP, you're quite the idiot. Or a troll.
I would suggest a trip to a Registered Dietician, a Physician, or a College/University program to aid in your understanding of pharmacology, nutrition, and hormonal imbalances if you truly did want to learn more. We're a website. We're not here to teach you how insulin or medication works.0 -
This topic has resulted in such interesting and enlightening replies.
Many years ago I was on anti-depressant medication and I too ended up putting on a hell of alot of weight. For me, initially I gained without any change to my eating intake, but as time when on, I did contribute to my gain by eating more.
Given the information about metabolic changes, I was wondering whether anyone could help me with this question?
I found that eventually my increase in appetitie came in the form of REALLY desiring carbohydrates (as well as sweets/chocolates) in much greater quantities/ratios than before. Would that tendency make insulin resistance an even greater issue and lead to depositing a greater percentage of fat, than if my appetite had chosen more protein and other types of veg. I guess those would be generally lower in calories.....but I was just wondering.
Those that have experienced this issue too.....did you also crave these types of foods, or did your food choices stay the same, despite the weight gain??
To all those experiencing this issue, my heart goes out to you. I was able to finally come off the meds, it took 12 months for my body to start to return to some normality. That was so heartening, it gave me the boost to actually start to change my habits and start exercising.....before, between the depression and ever increasing obesity I was mentally and physically defeated, so I was definitely eating for comfort.0 -
Seems harsh to judge others about something you haven't experienced yourself. Aren't we all here for the same reason? I am here for information and support on my weight loss journey, not to judge someone else if they aren't succeeding. Seems like those folks might need more support not less. Certainly ridicule is not going to help.
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whoaaah what?
cite anything in my post that sounded like I was "ridiculing" anybody at all.
man people are touchy on this site, I was asking a general question about an observation I'd made, no people were mentioned, darlin'.
"I hear people complaining how being on a type of birth control or a medication "MADE" them gain 30-50 pounds."
"...said medication caused them to somehow spontaneously gain weight, "
" If this were true, starving to death wouldn't be possible, " - implied as fact
"the shots and pills themselves do not /cause weight gain/ " - implied as fact
A general question would be "Yo, my friend/mother/teacher/sleezy roommate said she gained weight on the pill/metformin/citalopram. Can this happen?"
And observation would be "I hear lots people/many people say they gain weight on the pill/antidepressants.... how could that be if they're eating a deficit?"
Flouncing your post with "facts" and then flowing it up with "XD" or "lol" doesn't make it an observation or non-confrontational.0 -
some medications can also impact metabolic rate which means that at the same food intake at which you were maintaining, you are now gaining weight. Some medications also have a rather substantial impact on hormones and hormone imbalances often do cause metabolic issues for which, again, you can go from maintaining to gaining on the same calorie intake.
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PCOS wasn't mentioned in what i qouted. In your case, what controls insulin? Calories, it's still a caloric issue regardless. You do have a medical condition, which is understandable. Regardless though, the issue is calories. Eat less to lower insulin levels.
1. I have a feeling you're OP, and bored tonight.
2. If you're not OP, you're quite the idiot. Or a troll.
I would suggest a trip to a Registered Dietician, a Physician, or a College/University program to aid in your understanding of pharmacology, nutrition, and hormonal imbalances if you truly did want to learn more. We're a website. We're not here to teach you how insulin or medication works.
I am well aware of this stuff. So you're telling me if you fasted with PCOS you'll get fat? Once again, it's about calories, pay attention please.
Also PCOS or not, it doesn't matter. If you eat 2,000 calories and it all turned in to fat, yet you go out and burn 2,500 calories. Where does the 500 calories of energy come from? FAT
You and the other person are talking about low carb dieting theory non-sense.0 -
1. I have a feeling you're OP, and bored tonight.
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I had a large tumor on my thyroid that, without changing my diet, made me gain massive amounts of weight due a decrease in thyroid hormone. I also have no ovaries which means I'm in surgical menopause. Surgical menopause causes the metabolism to slow dramatically. Up until about a year ago I was able to keep my menopause in check with exercise. I stopped exercising due to the massive amounts of pain I was in caused by adhesions. I had adhesion surgery last December, and never felt well enough to exercise again. I gained a moderate amount of weight soon after (about 10 pounds) but nothing dramatic until around May. From May until August I gained 50 pounds without a change in my diet at all. NONE. Lucky me, I kept a food diary because my doctor didn't believe me. He thought I was just stuffing my face. Yeah, no. It's NOT NORMAL to gain 50lbs in 3 months. I was also extremely lethargic all the time. Even with a slight increase in calories something is dramatically wrong at that point. He finally believed me, ran a few tests, felt a tumor on my thyroid, had it biopsied (cancerous), and took it out in October. Since then I haven't gained a single pound... with no change to my activity and diet! Amazing what you don't believe until it happens to you.0
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