Can someone show & explain skinny fat to me?

Can someone show & explain skinny fat to me? I'm just not understanding what this is.
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  • A smaller version of someones fat self!
    Smaller but jigglier
    Good in clothes a mess without!
  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
    Skinny fat is when you are a healthy weight but you have an unhealthy amount of body fat.
  • monty619
    monty619 Posts: 1,308 Member
    lower body weight with a higher body fat %---( little muscle mass )
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    I think it's overused. What it should mean is someone who is a healthy body weight per something like BMI but an unhealthy bodyfat percentage. It often occurs in older women who are thin but have little muscle and have lost a lot of what they did have to age.

    A lot of people use it for anyone who is thin but doesn't have visible muscle definition.
  • Skinny fat is when you are a healthy weight but you have an unhealthy amount of body fat.

    ding ding ding!
  • lrmall01
    lrmall01 Posts: 377 Member
    It has been discussed here too: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/371841-nice-examples-of-skinny-fat-vs-fit-and-thin

    I'm not sure an exact definition exists, but I think the key criteria would be having a BMI in the "normal" range (18 - 25), but having a bodyfat percentage in the Obese (over 25% in men, 32% in women) category.

    Udpate: I hate it when I am too slow typing and others beat me to it!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Someone who is "skinny" but is otherwise at a higher % of BF to lean mass ratio. This often happens to people who crash diet and neglect resistance training. They shrink, but they lose a lot of muscle mass along with the fat...which leaves them "skinny" and at weight...but they're still kind of lose and flabby...

    skinny-fat-butt.jpg

    This chick is skinny...but has a jiggly, flabby *kitten* because she lacks muscle

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHe9euYi8lApN9k4k9-tUSewsYk0jzzzX4DFusx4IvgPxrRypGsQ
    Another good example.

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    One of my favorite representations...about 10 Lbs lighter on the left and "skinny fat"...10 Lbs heavier and looking much more fit on the right.
  • chatogal
    chatogal Posts: 436 Member
    I think it's overused. What it should mean is someone who is a healthy body weight per something like BMI but an unhealthy bodyfat percentage. It often occurs in older women who are thin but have little muscle and have lost a lot of what they did have to age.

    A lot of people use it for anyone who is thin but doesn't have visible muscle definition.

    I like this reply and holds my hand up to being one of those "older" ones. Seriously, the only person who sees me naked now is my lovely hubby who has loved my body from young and 'fit' through childbirth and now suffering my hot flushes along with me..He dosnt give two figs for "skinny fat":smile:
  • harphy
    harphy Posts: 290 Member
    That's me. 170 cm (6'6.5''), 62 kg (136lbs) and 29.9 % of BF! Ugh.
  • IronPlayground
    IronPlayground Posts: 1,594 Member
    I think it's overused. What it should mean is someone who is a healthy body weight per something like BMI but an unhealthy bodyfat percentage. It often occurs in older women who are thin but have little muscle and have lost a lot of what they did have to age.

    A lot of people use it for anyone who is thin but doesn't have visible muscle definition.

    I wouldn't say that it's overused at all. It's a real problem when people don't understand LBM and fat loss vs. weight loss.

    Too many people just want to see the scale go down and will do anything to make that happen. They eat very little and only do cardio activities. This leads to loss of LBM and BMR decreases.

    Understanding skinny fat and what it entails should motivate people to eat at more moderate deficits and include weight training into their routine.
  • Blacklance36
    Blacklance36 Posts: 755 Member
    It has been discussed here too: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/371841-nice-examples-of-skinny-fat-vs-fit-and-thin

    I'm not sure an exact definition exists, but I think the key criteria would be having a BMI in the "normal" range (18 - 25), but having a bodyfat percentage in the Obese (over 25% in men, 32% in women) category.

    Yep, BMI is over rated. If you lose weight without toning you will have skinny fat. Body fat % is a much better indicator of where we all should be.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Someone who is "skinny" but is otherwise at a higher % of BF to lean mass ratio. This often happens to people who crash diet and neglect resistance training. They shrink, but they lose a lot of muscle mass along with the fat...which leaves them "skinny" and at weight...but they're still kind of lose and flabby...

    skinny-fat-butt.jpg

    This chick is skinny...but has a jiggly, flabby *kitten* because she lacks muscle

    She has a flabbyish *kitten*, but really? You're looking at that photo and thinking she has an unhealthy amount of body fat?

    This is why people say the term is overused.
  • this is my personal example...

    2011 - skinny fat - 120 pounds, 24-25% body fat
    2012 - fit - 130 pounds, 15% body fat


    bodyfatdifference.jpg
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    this is my personal example...

    2011 - skinny fat - 120 pounds, 24-25% body fat
    2012 - fit - 130 pounds, 15% body fat


    bodyfatdifference.jpg

    And, again, while many women desire a lower BF%, 24-25% is a perfectly healthy, normal BF% for a woman. So how is that unhealthy? How is that "skinny fat"? It's just not as lean as you would like to be, but it isn't a bad thing health-wise.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    I think it's overused. What it should mean is someone who is a healthy body weight per something like BMI but an unhealthy bodyfat percentage. It often occurs in older women who are thin but have little muscle and have lost a lot of what they did have to age.

    A lot of people use it for anyone who is thin but doesn't have visible muscle definition.

    I wouldn't say that it's overused at all. It's a real problem when people don't understand LBM and fat loss vs. weight loss.

    Too many people just want to see the scale go down and will do anything to make that happen. They eat very little and only do cardio activities. This leads to loss of LBM and BMR decreases.

    Understanding skinny fat and what it entails should motivate people to eat at more moderate deficits and include weight training into their routine.

    ^This! .....totally this

    There are many of us who have lost weight, regained, lost weight AGAIN ......this is hel! on the metabolism when you've lost a fair amount of muscle.....each time.
  • hearthemelody
    hearthemelody Posts: 1,025 Member

    Looks like some of those links are out of date.
  • hearthemelody
    hearthemelody Posts: 1,025 Member
    And, again, while many women desire a lower BF%, 24-25% is a perfectly healthy, normal BF% for a woman. So how is that unhealthy? How is that "skinny fat"? It's just not as lean as you would like to be, but it isn't a bad thing health-wise.

    For me, what it means to be skinny fat is how quickly you gain back that weight if you eat normally at all.

    I have a friend IRL who also uses MFP and lost 80 lbs over a year or so, gained 40 of it back in three months once she stopped eating 1200 cals a day.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    Me. I look okay clothed, look flabby naked (1.5 years of heavy lifting has, thankfully, started to change this process).

    The general consensus on here is an unhealthy BF% with a healthy BMI. I think it can also be noted that someone who has a higher BF% then they desire, that causes them to continuously focus on losing scale weight, can use the term "skinny fat."

    I might not be over 32% BF, but I am a much higher BF than people shorter and heavier than me, because they made healthier decisions in weight loss than I did over many years.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Someone who is "skinny" but is otherwise at a higher % of BF to lean mass ratio. This often happens to people who crash diet and neglect resistance training. They shrink, but they lose a lot of muscle mass along with the fat...which leaves them "skinny" and at weight...but they're still kind of lose and flabby...

    skinny-fat-butt.jpg

    This chick is skinny...but has a jiggly, flabby *kitten* because she lacks muscle

    She has a flabbyish *kitten*, but really? You're looking at that photo and thinking she has an unhealthy amount of body fat?

    This is why people say the term is overused.

    You could brush up on your reading comprehension skills I think...at what point exactly did I say "unhealthy amount of BF?" I simply stated that it was a higher BF% to lean mass ratio...which is absolutely true.
  • KnM0107
    KnM0107 Posts: 355 Member
    this is my personal example...

    2011 - skinny fat - 120 pounds, 24-25% body fat
    2012 - fit - 130 pounds, 15% body fat


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    So a healthy body fat percent is considered skinny fat? Seriously? Wow, how does that even make sense? Yes the phrase is over used! Skinny fay would be having a normal weight but are OBESE because of an OBESE body fat percent.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Someone who is "skinny" but is otherwise at a higher % of BF to lean mass ratio. This often happens to people who crash diet and neglect resistance training. They shrink, but they lose a lot of muscle mass along with the fat...which leaves them "skinny" and at weight...but they're still kind of lose and flabby...

    skinny-fat-butt.jpg

    This chick is skinny...but has a jiggly, flabby *kitten* because she lacks muscle

    She has a flabbyish *kitten*, but really? You're looking at that photo and thinking she has an unhealthy amount of body fat?

    This is why people say the term is overused.

    You could brush up on your reading comprehension skills I think...at what point exactly did I say "unhealthy amount of BF?" I simply stated that it was a higher BF% to lean mass ratio...which is absolutely true.
    I questioned the "skinny fat" thing a while ago and was told that the issue is because it means an "unhealthy amount of fat." I was told I was being silly questioning the overuse of the term because it's a health issue and not about aesthetics and that when people say someone is "skinny fat," they specifically mean a person with an unhealthy fat to muscle ratio and TOO MUCH FAT.

    This thread is showing me that my initial reaction to this term was correct. People call others (and sometimes themselves) "skinny fat" because they don't have anough muscle tone showing, not because they are actually unhealthy. And I don't think the woman in that example looks bad at all. She may not be other people's ideal, but she doesn't look so bad to everyone.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    The general consensus on here is an unhealthy BF% with a healthy BMI.

    But based on the posts in this thread, that is not the consensus.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    What would be nice is if we had an easy way to measure actual muscle percentage. I may be 25% body fat. I am 75% lean body mass, but how much is actual muscle? I think the problem with the flabby butt pictures is too low of muscle percentage, not necessarily too high of body fat.

    *ETA: And I don't know that it's even really a "health" problem, but definitely an atheistic problem.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Someone who is "skinny" but is otherwise at a higher % of BF to lean mass ratio. This often happens to people who crash diet and neglect resistance training. They shrink, but they lose a lot of muscle mass along with the fat...which leaves them "skinny" and at weight...but they're still kind of lose and flabby...

    skinny-fat-butt.jpg

    This chick is skinny...but has a jiggly, flabby *kitten* because she lacks muscle

    She has a flabbyish *kitten*, but really? You're looking at that photo and thinking she has an unhealthy amount of body fat?

    This is why people say the term is overused.

    You could brush up on your reading comprehension skills I think...at what point exactly did I say "unhealthy amount of BF?" I simply stated that it was a higher BF% to lean mass ratio...which is absolutely true.
    I questioned the "skinny fat" thing a while ago and was told that the issue is because it means an "unhealthy amount of fat." I was told I was being silly questioning the overuse of the term because it's a health issue and not about aesthetics and that when people say someone is "skinny fat," they specifically mean a person with an unhealthy fat to muscle ratio and TOO MUCH FAT.

    This thread is showing me that my initial reaction to this term was correct. People call others (and sometimes themselves) "skinny fat" because they don't have anough muscle tone showing, not because they are actually unhealthy. And I don't think the woman in that example looks bad at all. She may not be other people's ideal, but she doesn't look so bad to everyone.

    that's fine...but you took one of my posts with a picture I posted and then you asked me why I thought that was an unhealthy BF%? I personally never said that...IMO skinny fat is largely aesthetic. The only health implications really are a lack of muscle mass which lowers the overall metabolism.

    I would also add, that a lot of females in particular get to this point and are unhappy with their body composition (it has noting to do with what you or I think)...and they think the answer is more dieting and more dieting and more dieting. I would think it would be pretty unhealthy for the individual pictured above to continue dieting...they'd likely end up under weight which is a health issue. People need to understand that there's more to this than some number on the scale and that there are far more productive ways to deal with body composition issues than continued dieting (and usually it's these young things just crashing their diets and developing EDs that worry me the most).
  • Timetoturnup
    Timetoturnup Posts: 7 Member
    Amazing, Now i understand the importance of resistance training.
  • NiSan12
    NiSan12 Posts: 374 Member
    Wow. Interesting information.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    that's fine...but you took one of my posts with a picture I posted and then you asked me why I thought that was an unhealthy BF%? I personally never said that...IMO skinny fat is largely aesthetic. The only health implications really are a lack of muscle mass which lowers the overall metabolism.

    I would also add, that a lot of females in particular get to this point and are unhappy with their body composition (it has noting to do with what you or I think)...and they think the answer is more dieting and more dieting and more dieting. I would think it would be pretty unhealthy for the individual pictured above to continue dieting...they'd likely end up under weight which is a health issue. People need to understand that there's more to this than some number on the scale and that there are far more productive ways to deal with body composition issues than continued dieting (and usually it's these young things just crashing their diets and developing EDs that worry me the most).

    This is exactly the opposite of what everyone insisted to me skinny fat meant. And, actually, it is what I always thought people meant when they said it.

    And not all women are unhappy with that kind of body. If they are, then you are correct -- they need resistance training. But if they're happy with it, calling them "skinny fat" is rude and the reason I HATE that term.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    I think there are actually two different definitions that are commonly used.

    1. Healthy BMI, unhealthy body fat percentage (above 30% for women).

    2. Healthy BMI, upper end of the healthy body fat percentage, low muscle percentage.


    The first has some serious medical consequences especially later in life. This should be avoided.

    The second is more atheistic preference but it's use can be insulting to people who just don't want a lot of muscle or don't want to be especially lean. Like Puffy's first picture. There's nothing wrong with that. Some people want to look that way. To call those people "skinny fat" IS insulting them. We don't all have the same preferences or goals.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Someone who is "skinny" but is otherwise at a higher % of BF to lean mass ratio. This often happens to people who crash diet and neglect resistance training. They shrink, but they lose a lot of muscle mass along with the fat...which leaves them "skinny" and at weight...but they're still kind of lose and flabby...

    skinny-fat-butt.jpg

    This chick is skinny...but has a jiggly, flabby *kitten* because she lacks muscle

    She has a flabbyish *kitten*, but really? You're looking at that photo and thinking she has an unhealthy amount of body fat?

    This is why people say the term is overused.

    Completely agree. That photo does not fit any meaningful definition of "skinny fat".
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    that's fine...but you took one of my posts with a picture I posted and then you asked me why I thought that was an unhealthy BF%? I personally never said that...IMO skinny fat is largely aesthetic. The only health implications really are a lack of muscle mass which lowers the overall metabolism.

    I would also add, that a lot of females in particular get to this point and are unhappy with their body composition (it has noting to do with what you or I think)...and they think the answer is more dieting and more dieting and more dieting. I would think it would be pretty unhealthy for the individual pictured above to continue dieting...they'd likely end up under weight which is a health issue. People need to understand that there's more to this than some number on the scale and that there are far more productive ways to deal with body composition issues than continued dieting (and usually it's these young things just crashing their diets and developing EDs that worry me the most).

    This is exactly the opposite of what everyone insisted to me skinny fat meant. And, actually, it is what I always thought people meant when they said it.

    And not all women are unhappy with that kind of body. If they are, then you are correct -- they need resistance training. But if they're happy with it, calling them "skinny fat" is rude and the reason I HATE that term.

    What term would you prefer...and by the by, I didn't invent the term. I hear people all of the time refer the themselves as "skinny fat"...I've never heard anyone say, "eeewww...you're skinny fat."

    It's simply a way of describing a higher BF% to lean mass ratio. It is essentially a lack of definition due to a lack of muscle mass. And yes...there are plenty of people who are just fine with being that way...hell, I'm that way...but judging by your post number, you've been around here awhile...are you completely oblivious to the massive number of women on here who fit this bill and think they need to continue to lose weight and diet thinking they will change their body composition?