Need serious help with SUGAR!!!!
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I believe that ninebuff makes a good point... sugar "addiction" may be disorder related as opposed to physically addicting. With addiction, comes withdraw and other symptoms... something sugar doesnt have. No one ever had cold sweats or paranoia from not eating cookies or poptarts.
I would be interested to see if brain chemistry ties closely to those with anorexia or another binge disorder. Personally, I feel its a more suitable alignment as compared to a drug addict or alcoholic.0 -
I believe that ninebuff makes a good point... sugar "addiction" may be disorder related as opposed to physically addicting. With addiction, comes withdraw and other symptoms... something sugar doesnt have. No one ever had cold sweats or paranoia from not eating cookies or poptarts.
I would be interested to see if brain chemistry ties closely to those with anorexia or another binge disorder. Personally, I feel its a more suitable alignment as compared to a drug addict or alcoholic.
Just out of curiosity... how would you define someone who could go for several days without a drink... but once a drop was touched, he couldn't stop until he was passed out? Someone who absolutely MUST abstain from alcohol, or he will drink to the point of blackout / passout, every time. Is this person an alcoholic?0 -
I believe that ninebuff makes a good point... sugar "addiction" may be disorder related as opposed to physically addicting. With addiction, comes withdraw and other symptoms... something sugar doesnt have. No one ever had cold sweats or paranoia from not eating cookies or poptarts.
I would be interested to see if brain chemistry ties closely to those with anorexia or another binge disorder. Personally, I feel its a more suitable alignment as compared to a drug addict or alcoholic.
Just out of curiosity... how would you define someone who could go for several days without a drink... but once a drop was touched, he couldn't stop until he was passed out? Someone who absolutely MUST abstain from alcohol, or he will drink to the point of blackout / passout, every time. Is this person an alcoholic?
I'd call it binge drinking. I don't think that would be considered an addiction (which implies dependence).0 -
I believe that ninebuff makes a good point... sugar "addiction" may be disorder related as opposed to physically addicting. With addiction, comes withdraw and other symptoms... something sugar doesnt have. No one ever had cold sweats or paranoia from not eating cookies or poptarts.
I would be interested to see if brain chemistry ties closely to those with anorexia or another binge disorder. Personally, I feel its a more suitable alignment as compared to a drug addict or alcoholic.
Just out of curiosity... how would you define someone who could go for several days without a drink... but once a drop was touched, he couldn't stop until he was passed out? Someone who absolutely MUST abstain from alcohol, or he will drink to the point of blackout / passout, every time. Is this person an alcoholic?
This is an interesting read in case anyone hasn't heard of 'wet houses': http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/20/the-wet-house-homeless-people-with-alcoholism-drink-less-when-booze-is-allowed/
There is actually a lot of evidence that alcoholism and drug addiction are choices. In a famous rat study, rats addicted to opiates were placed in a 'rat park'. An environment that was enriched and had other rats in it that they could interact with. As the addicted rats began to get interested in the other rats and start little rat families, they chose plain water over the opiate spiked water. Even when it was sweetened with SUGAR (normally, any rat's downfall).
Yeah, it's been a super slow day at work and I've been traipsing through PubMed.0 -
I believe that ninebuff makes a good point... sugar "addiction" may be disorder related as opposed to physically addicting. With addiction, comes withdraw and other symptoms... something sugar doesnt have. No one ever had cold sweats or paranoia from not eating cookies or poptarts.
I would be interested to see if brain chemistry ties closely to those with anorexia or another binge disorder. Personally, I feel its a more suitable alignment as compared to a drug addict or alcoholic.
Just out of curiosity... how would you define someone who could go for several days without a drink... but once a drop was touched, he couldn't stop until he was passed out? Someone who absolutely MUST abstain from alcohol, or he will drink to the point of blackout / passout, every time. Is this person an alcoholic?
I'd call it binge drinking. I don't think that would be considered an addiction (which implies dependence).
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No one said binge drinking isn't a problem. But I'm pretty sure it's classified differently than a dependency. I'm at the gym so I can't really look it up right now.0
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No one said binge drinking isn't a problem. But I'm pretty sure it's classified differently than a dependency. I'm at the gym so I can't really look it up right now.
I'd be very interested to see what you come up with. I was kidding about the AA.... but I did seek treatment for what I certainly considered 'alcoholism...' I was never too hung up about the terminology.... The simple fact was, I had to quit drinking. I'm almost 100% certain that AA would call that alcoholism.... but, they seem to cast a pretty wide net. :ohwell:
I grabbed this from a quick searchDefinition of Alcoholism -- published by the Journal of the American Medical Association
"Alcoholism is a primary, chronic disease with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations. The disease is often progressive and fatal. It is characterized by continuous or periodic: impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking, most notably denial ."
I would have more than fit the 'periodic impaired control over drinking....' and the 'adverse consequences.....' And the periodic would only be because I didn't drink every single day. And I certainly had the genetics, 100%.
I'm sure you can see where I'd be going with this....
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The CDC says that most who binge drink are not alcoholics. I think a dependence is identified with a preoccupation with the substance, and that someone who occasionally binges when presented with the opportunity - but doesn't necessarily seek out or need such opportunities - necessarily qualifies.
There's a fine line, but I don't think that occasional uncontrollable binge drinking is necessarily an alcohol dependency.0 -
The CDC says that most who binge drink are not alcoholics. I think a dependence is identified with a preoccupation with the substance, and that someone who occasionally binges when presented with the opportunity - but doesn't necessarily seek out or need such opportunities - necessarily qualifies.
There's a fine line, but I don't think that occasional uncontrollable binge drinking is necessarily an alcohol dependency.
I personally think I was well over the line. I wasn't occasional, by any means, I was alot closer to every day, than not..... I did want to make the distinction that I did not drink EVERY day, and therefore I don't think I could truly claim a physical dependence..... I'd say from late teens to almost 30 years old, probably 4 or 5 days per week, drunk to the point of blackout / passout..... I definitely sought out the opportunities. For one example, if I was working 12 hr day shifts, I'd stop at the bar for a quick one, wind up closing the place down.... get 3 hrs sleep, go back to work, and do the same thing the next day. After graveyard shifts, stop in the parking lot for a beer with the boys, drink until the bar opened, then drink in the bar until passed out, or moved on to another location... always ending in blackout or passout. This was not something I could control, until I quit drinking entirely. I tend to 'assume' that if I had a beer now, I'd be right back at square one. It's not something I wish to test. :bigsmile: Even for science.0 -
Well that's almost every day, and it's active seeking behavior. Not quite what you initially described.0
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I would think there are various levels of dependencies for alcohol. My FIL used to be a two a day drinker for many years. He was rarely drunk but got to a point where he relied on it to get a good night sleep. He had to give it up recent after he went into liver failure. He spent 9 months or so as part of his treatment. He surprisingly was surprised the different levels of alcohol dependencies... some fall down drunk but many social 2 or 3 a day drinkers. It was almost more routine than anything.
Maybe you can classify it as an emotional disorder or an addiction. But the fact is, your body doesnt respond to sugar or patable foods like alcohol and drugs.0 -
Well that's almost every day, and it's active seeking behavior. Not quite what you initially described.
I wanted to make the distinction between every day, and not every day... because I think it tends to get away from the physical dependence aspect. I'd suffer massive hangover symptoms, which would be expected by anyone who drank that much, and were sometimes alleviated by simply drinking again, upon waking... if it was a day off, and that option was available. But, the day I saw my Dr, and told him I needed help, he looked at me somewhat skeptically, and said.... ' well, you're not drunk now....' and I replied, 'the day is still young....' and that I wasn't such a drunk that I'd go see my doctor drunk. I held down a job, and only rarely missed work due to drunken stupidity, although I worked in such hung over states, I was lucky not to have a serious accident.
What I'm obviously trying to do is to draw a parallel between alcoholism... if it's defined as alcohol addiction.... and if I could be considered an alcoholic, by definition.... simply because when I had one drink I could not stop.... then, could sugar not be similar, in that some people claim to not be able to stop eating sweets once they start?
Sorry for the run-on sentence.
Maybe that's why they get a cake every year, they are sober in AA? So I hear, anyhow.
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Wow, nice Dr.I saw my Dr, and told him I needed help, he looked at me somewhat skeptically, and said.... ' well, you're not drunk now....'What I'm obviously trying to do is to draw a parallel between alcoholism... if it's defined as alcohol addiction.... and if I could be considered an alcoholic, by definition.... simply because when I had one drink I could not stop.... then, could sugar not be similar, in that some people claim to not be able to stop eating sweets once they start?
I am kinda in the same boat as you sloth whereas I can't stop drinking once I start. It's a little different though. It's not every day, it's maybe once every three months, I can have alcohol in my house forever and never desire a taste but once I start, watch out! I wish I was able to control that because it prevents me from going out.0 -
Alcohol lowers inhibitions, so it's no surprise a lot of people find themselves in the "one more won't hurt" camp. I'm the same. But if your willpower is already diminished I can imagine binge drinking comes quite easily.
Should be noted you also don't have to drink every day to be an alcoholic. In psychiatry and medicine they use a number of other terms for how alcoholism, like alcohol abuse - characterised as chronic binge drinking, as Sloth describes - or alcohol dependence - what people usually call alcoholism.0 -
Alcohol lowers inhibitions, so it's no surprise a lot of people find themselves in the "one more won't hurt" camp. I'm the same. But if your willpower is already diminished I can imagine binge drinking comes quite easily.
Should be noted you also don't have to drink every day to be an alcoholic. In psychiatry and medicine they use a number of other terms for how alcoholism, like alcohol abuse - characterised as chronic binge drinking, as Sloth describes - or alcohol dependence - what people usually call alcoholism.
As for alcohol lowering inhibitions... this is a valid point.... and obviously doesn't translate to the sugar argument. But.... the fact is, that most adults, can have a couple of drinks, and stop. Some will occasionally get carried away, and drink to excess, but they certainly won't do it every single time. I have always described the feeling with me, that it's like a switch, inside my head, and one beer flips it, and then, it's game on.
I'm not trying to jack this thread.... I'm just trying to present the possibility that there's a similarity between an alcoholic brain, if mine is one.... and someone's brain who has issues with sugar.
Wow, nice Dr.
I am kinda in the same boat as you sloth whereas I can't stop drinking once I start. It's a little different though. It's not every day, it's maybe once every three months, I can have alcohol in my house forever and never desire a taste but once I start, watch out! I wish I was able to control that because it prevents me from going out.
I had a fairly good relationship with that Dr.... I had been on a bender, and my right arm was numb, for a couple of days. He asked me if I'd been drunk lately, and I said ya.... he said it was 'Saturday Night Palsy,' then. I'd passed out with my arm over a chair, and choked off the circulation. That's when I told him issue #2 was my alcoholism. I don't think he was prepared for that, and wasn't sure how to deal with the issue, and that's what prompted his response. I was pretty quick to explain to him, that just because I was sober in front of him at that moment, didn't mean I wouldn't be a complete mess, within a few hours. There was a bar in the next block over from his office. But, he did help me out, and we did figure out a course of treatment. The funny thing is, I sort of always knew that one day I would quit drinking... and as I approached 30 yrs old, and a couple of recent 'events' seemed to make it the right time. I basically did all the 'work' to quit, but I also got the 'support' I needed. I have a horrible memory.... extremely faulty memory... but, I remember that day in his office.... us smiling at each other, while I'm telling him I'm an alcoholic, and him looking at me, like... 'what am I supposed to do with this information? It was actually quite a good day.
We actually often have alcohol in the house. If we've had guests, there may be a few leftover beers in the fridge, that literally hang around for YEARS. We've had beer in the fridge that was SO old, that I've warned people that they couldn't possibly still be palatable. Eventually, someone will usually give one a try, and say they are fine. But, I'm talking years old. It's been so long, I just don't even think about picking one up. I am just a non-drinker now.0 -
I don't think "unable to stop" is the same in the context of food vs alcohol. I just read an interesting study that drew powerful similarities between reward centers in the brain between the two, but alcohol is mood-altering. It's a psychoactive drug. Sugar isn't. Alcohol directly causes mood and mental state changes that can lead to increased consumption. Sugar doesn't do that.
And again, the "unable to stop bingeing" is related to food, not just sugar. The study referred to these foods, which generally have a combination of sugar and fat, as "hyperpalatable foods." It's not sugar by itself - no one binges on a bag of sugar. Or bananas, for that matter, even though they have tons of sugar. They binge on cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.0 -
The amount of misinformation and willful ignorance about alcohol addiction in this thread, baffles me to no end.:grumble:
I think it is safe to say that several people here do NOT have a future as substance abuse counselors. Good thing, as they would really suck at it.0 -
I don't think "unable to stop" is the same in the context of food vs alcohol. I just read an interesting study that drew powerful similarities between reward centers in the brain between the two, but alcohol is mood-altering. It's a psychoactive drug. Sugar isn't. Alcohol directly causes mood and mental state changes that can lead to increased consumption. Sugar doesn't do that.
And again, the "unable to stop bingeing" is related to food, not just sugar. The study referred to these foods, which generally have a combination of sugar and fat, as "hyperpalatable foods." It's not sugar by itself - no one binges on a bag of sugar. Or bananas, for that matter, even though they have tons of sugar. They binge on cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.
I fully agree with you, that I've never heard of anyone diving head first into a 5 lb bag of sugar. So, if we could get everyone to stop referring to their 'sugar addiction....' and start discussing issues with hyperpalatable foods.... would we be any closer to coming to any kind of agreement / understanding of how different people have different reactions with these foods?
Mmmmmm cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.
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I don't think "unable to stop" is the same in the context of food vs alcohol. I just read an interesting study that drew powerful similarities between reward centers in the brain between the two, but alcohol is mood-altering. It's a psychoactive drug. Sugar isn't. Alcohol directly causes mood and mental state changes that can lead to increased consumption. Sugar doesn't do that.
And again, the "unable to stop bingeing" is related to food, not just sugar. The study referred to these foods, which generally have a combination of sugar and fat, as "hyperpalatable foods." It's not sugar by itself - no one binges on a bag of sugar. Or bananas, for that matter, even though they have tons of sugar. They binge on cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.
I fully agree with you, that I've never heard of anyone diving head first into a 5 lb bag of sugar. So, if we could get everyone to stop referring to their 'sugar addiction....' and start discussing issues with hyperpalatable foods.... would we be any closer to coming to any kind of agreement / understanding of how different people have different reactions with these foods?
Mmmmmm cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.
I doubt anything less than a full concession would satisfy certain people.
BTW, my SIL confessed to me once about her sugar 'addiction'. In an attempt to stop her constant binging on chocolate, cookies, cakes, etc, she had stopped bringing them into the house. One night she couldn't sleep and got up and went to the pantry, looking for ANYTHING sweet. She found a half-used old bag of brown sugar in the far back corner, that was so old it had turned into a solid rock. She put the rock in a bowl, put some butter on top to help soften it, then microwaved it til it was melted. Stirred it up and ate the whole bowl with a spoon.
Yeah, that is pretty messed up.0 -
I don't think "unable to stop" is the same in the context of food vs alcohol. I just read an interesting study that drew powerful similarities between reward centers in the brain between the two, but alcohol is mood-altering. It's a psychoactive drug. Sugar isn't. Alcohol directly causes mood and mental state changes that can lead to increased consumption. Sugar doesn't do that.
And again, the "unable to stop bingeing" is related to food, not just sugar. The study referred to these foods, which generally have a combination of sugar and fat, as "hyperpalatable foods." It's not sugar by itself - no one binges on a bag of sugar. Or bananas, for that matter, even though they have tons of sugar. They binge on cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.
I fully agree with you, that I've never heard of anyone diving head first into a 5 lb bag of sugar. So, if we could get everyone to stop referring to their 'sugar addiction....' and start discussing issues with hyperpalatable foods.... would we be any closer to coming to any kind of agreement / understanding of how different people have different reactions with these foods?
Mmmmmm cookies, cake, chocolate bars, etc.
I doubt anything less than a full concession would satisfy certain people.
BTW, my SIL confessed to me once about her sugar 'addiction'. In an attempt to stop her constant binging on chocolate, cookies, cakes, etc, she had stopped bringing them into the house. One night she couldn't sleep and got up and went to the pantry, looking for ANYTHING sweet. She found a half-used old bag of brown sugar in the far back corner, that was so old it had turned into a solid rock. She put the rock in a bowl, put some butter on top to help soften it, then microwaved it til it was melted. Stirred it up and ate the whole bowl with a spoon.
Yeah, that is pretty messed up.
That sounds pretty hyperpalatable to me. I seem to have a kind of hazy memory of heating sugar up on a spoon in chemistry class, and it made a kind of toffee-like substance? 0 -
The amount of misinformation and willful ignorance about alcohol addiction in this thread, baffles me to no end.:grumble:
I think it is safe to say that several people here do NOT have a future as substance abuse counselors. Good thing, as they would really suck at it.
If there us misinformation in the thread then I would suggest you should correct it with valid information. Otherwise, you are just not contributing at all. And this goes for everyone in the thread. In fact I believe this thread has made a ton of progress since the beginning where its developed into real discussion and debate instead of name calling and just saying your wrong. If it bothers you what people say, then I would advise leaving the thread or become more engaged without emotion.
I will note these last few pages have more rhetorical and pondering than overall debate. Heck, its the reason we as mods have let this go on for so long. There was a turning point I noticed where it became a beneficial and constructive. With that said I hope it stays on that track.
Additionally, most of us are probably not phd's, but if you work in the field or have advance experience or knowledge I would hope you provide it0 -
What would have impressed me is if she went out in the middle of the night to get a bag of sugar to eat. Hell I've gotten up in the middle of the night with no "treats" in the cupboard and ate some uncooked spaghetti. Why? Because it was there. Doesn't mean I'm "addicted" to spaghetti. It just happen to be the only thing I could eat without cooking at the time.I doubt anything less than a full concession would satisfy certain people.
BTW, my SIL confessed to me once about her sugar 'addiction'. In an attempt to stop her constant binging on chocolate, cookies, cakes, etc, she had stopped bringing them into the house. One night she couldn't sleep and got up and went to the pantry, looking for ANYTHING sweet. She found a half-used old bag of brown sugar in the far back corner, that was so old it had turned into a solid rock. She put the rock in a bowl, put some butter on top to help soften it, then microwaved it til it was melted. Stirred it up and ate the whole bowl with a spoon.
Yeah, that is pretty messed up.
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The amount of misinformation and willful ignorance about alcohol addiction in this thread, baffles me to no end.:grumble:
I think it is safe to say that several people here do NOT have a future as substance abuse counselors. Good thing, as they would really suck at it.
If there us misinformation in the thread then I would suggest you should correct it with valid information. Otherwise, you are just not contributing at all. And this goes for everyone in the thread. In fact I believe this thread has made a ton of progress since the beginning where its developed into real discussion and debate instead of name calling and just saying your wrong. If it bothers you what people say, then I would advise leaving the thread or become more engaged without emotion.
I will note these last few pages have more rhetorical and pondering than overall debate. Heck, its the reason we as mods have let this go on for so long. There was a turning point I noticed where it became a beneficial and constructive. With that said I hope it stays on that track.
There are many doctors and researchers who see alcohol and drug abuse as simple coping mechanism for extreme psychological pain and distress instead of the commonly accepted 'have no ability to stop drinking'. It has been shown time and again that they can in fact, stop drinking if the reward is high enough. To treat their self medication with real treatment and actual medications to address their psychological pain makes life so much more rewarding and people need to self medicate less and less. To label alcoholism a disease is to take the control out of the 'diseased' person's hands, in essence, teaching them that they are helpless, is a great disservice to these people. The same with labeling overeating as an 'addiction'. Treat the underlying chemical imbalances, and people no longer need to self medicate with food. I can personally attest that I self medicated with food as a teenager because I had undiagnosed depression and GAD. Once that was under control with medication, my desire to over consume sweet foods was greatly diminished.
I agree that I would like to see some actual information from those who disagree. Myself, I think it is so much more compassionate to view alcohol, drug and food 'addictions' as sensible choices for those in psychological pain, as well as it making a whole lot of sense.
The original rat studies that led scientists to believe alcohol and drugs to be addicting were done in rats that were in isolated environments and were tethered to a drug reward system that was directly wired to their brains through a device that was fastened to their skulls with screws. :ohwell: It's no wonder they hit that lever 100 times a day even to the point of death. They had nothing to live for. It's time we moved past that old paradigm IMO.0 -
The amount of misinformation and willful ignorance about alcohol addiction in this thread, baffles me to no end.:grumble:
I think it is safe to say that several people here do NOT have a future as substance abuse counselors. Good thing, as they would really suck at it.
It would be nice if someone as educated and sensitive as you could actually add information to the discussion instead of just attacking people.0 -
OK, I didn't read all of this. But the bits I did - interesting discussion.
I only started on this website a few days ago. And am also wondering about my sugar intake: Calories in check, as are total carbs, fat, protein. Sugars - always more than "allowed" by the website. Looking through what I eat, most of the sugars come from fruit, no "junk" in there. So - do I now feel riddled by guilt because of this high sugar intake, do I cut down fruit and live on cucumber or tomatoes, or do I simply ignore it, because I like fruit and it really is meant to be good for you - whatever that exactly means?
Unless you have blood sugar control problems (diabetes, hypoglycemia, etc) then there's no reason for you to even track sugar. Go to your diary, click Settings, and track something else like fiber instead.
Don't like 1 in 3 of us have blood sugar issues?
Highly unlikely. If anything, it's more like 5-10%. And the question would be, was the insulin issue caused by genetics or poor nutrition?
According to the NDIC and CDC
11.3% of all people 20 yrs or older, have full blown Diabetes.
In 2005–2008, based on fasting glucose or A1C levels, 35 percent of U.S. adults ages 20 years or older had prediabetes—50 percent of those ages 65 years or older. Applying this percentage to the entire U.S. population in 2010 yields an estimated 79 million Americans ages 20 years or older with prediabetes.
There, I corrected one bit of misinformation with valid information.0 -
Okay, but is sugar the cause of diabetes? Or is it genetics and/or weight issues? Check it out.OK, I didn't read all of this. But the bits I did - interesting discussion.
I only started on this website a few days ago. And am also wondering about my sugar intake: Calories in check, as are total carbs, fat, protein. Sugars - always more than "allowed" by the website. Looking through what I eat, most of the sugars come from fruit, no "junk" in there. So - do I now feel riddled by guilt because of this high sugar intake, do I cut down fruit and live on cucumber or tomatoes, or do I simply ignore it, because I like fruit and it really is meant to be good for you - whatever that exactly means?
Unless you have blood sugar control problems (diabetes, hypoglycemia, etc) then there's no reason for you to even track sugar. Go to your diary, click Settings, and track something else like fiber instead.
Don't like 1 in 3 of us have blood sugar issues?
Highly unlikely. If anything, it's more like 5-10%. And the question would be, was the insulin issue caused by genetics or poor nutrition?
According to the NDIC and CDC
11.3% of all people 20 yrs or older, have full blown Diabetes.
In 2005–2008, based on fasting glucose or A1C levels, 35 percent of U.S. adults ages 20 years or older had prediabetes—50 percent of those ages 65 years or older. Applying this percentage to the entire U.S. population in 2010 yields an estimated 79 million Americans ages 20 years or older with prediabetes.
There, I corrected one bit of misinformation with valid information.
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Alcohol directly causes mood and mental state changes that can lead to increased consumption. Sugar doesn't do that.
Sugar can absolutely cause a mood change in me. I know exactly what people speak of when they say "a sugar high". Have you really never experienced this?0 -
OK, I didn't read all of this. But the bits I did - interesting discussion.
I only started on this website a few days ago. And am also wondering about my sugar intake: Calories in check, as are total carbs, fat, protein. Sugars - always more than "allowed" by the website. Looking through what I eat, most of the sugars come from fruit, no "junk" in there. So - do I now feel riddled by guilt because of this high sugar intake, do I cut down fruit and live on cucumber or tomatoes, or do I simply ignore it, because I like fruit and it really is meant to be good for you - whatever that exactly means?
Unless you have blood sugar control problems (diabetes, hypoglycemia, etc) then there's no reason for you to even track sugar. Go to your diary, click Settings, and track something else like fiber instead.
Don't like 1 in 3 of us have blood sugar issues?
Highly unlikely. If anything, it's more like 5-10%. And the question would be, was the insulin issue caused by genetics or poor nutrition?
According to the NDIC and CDC
11.3% of all people 20 yrs or older, have full blown Diabetes.
In 2005–2008, based on fasting glucose or A1C levels, 35 percent of U.S. adults ages 20 years or older had prediabetes—50 percent of those ages 65 years or older. Applying this percentage to the entire U.S. population in 2010 yields an estimated 79 million Americans ages 20 years or older with prediabetes.
There, I corrected one bit of misinformation with valid information.
Great you proved my point. I said 5 to 10% as opposed to the 33% the other person suggested. So I was only off by 1%.. not bad.0 -
I believe that ninebuff makes a good point... sugar "addiction" may be disorder related as opposed to physically addicting. With addiction, comes withdraw and other symptoms... something sugar doesnt have. No one ever had cold sweats or paranoia from not eating cookies or poptarts.
I would be interested to see if brain chemistry ties closely to those with anorexia or another binge disorder. Personally, I feel its a more suitable alignment as compared to a drug addict or alcoholic.
Just out of curiosity... how would you define someone who could go for several days without a drink... but once a drop was touched, he couldn't stop until he was passed out? Someone who absolutely MUST abstain from alcohol, or he will drink to the point of blackout / passout, every time. Is this person an alcoholic?
I'd call it binge drinking. I don't think that would be considered an addiction (which implies dependence).
Agreed! I used to be a binge drinker, just as I used to be a binge-eater. I can now drink a beer or three, or have a dessert without going nuts.
I have a younger bro who is an alcoholic. He had to be hospitalized to withdraw. If he went long without a drink, his hands would shake. But his drinking was not at all like mine. He would drink just a little, from morning until night, a nip here and there. I planned my binges and would drink until pass-out or black-out, but then would go a week or more in between. He had to drink every day. (He's been sober, for the second time, for several months now. Crossing fingers that he can stick to it!)0 -
Do you get the same feeling from crack as you do from cocaine?
Crack is cocaine on steroids.
Crack is just free-based cocaine. The only difference is the high comes a bit quicker.0
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