I see many with very pour nutrition in their diet.

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  • marvybells
    marvybells Posts: 1,984 Member
    darn this thread!!! Mickey D's is all i can think about right now.

    i am SO heading to the nearest golden arches tomorrow
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member

    I am not saying you won't lose weight. But you should eat healthy and sure once in a while you can splurge too but just be careful what you eat on a regular basis. If you make good choices in the fast food places you can do it. You can stay below your calorie goal also, how ever when your sodium intake is twice the recommended for your goal you are a walking heart attack looking to happen. Like I said it is about balance. There is more to look at in your diet than calories in an calories out.

    As an athlete I have to eat much more than the suggested max of 2500 mg (The Institute of Medicine recommends 1500 mg of sodium per day as the Adequate Intake level). I need to consume around 3500 mg per day because I am very active. My blood work comes back perfect.

    I do understand that there is more to look at than just calories. Fat is essentail to health and various metabolic activities. Carbohydrates are needed for energy, plus they are usually great sources of fiber and micronutrients. Protein is essential for repair of muscles. That is why I said determine appropriate macro nutrient levels and make sure to hit your micronutrient needs.

    I can easily eat ice cream every night and fit it in my calories, macros and micros. We each need to find what works for us and how to balance this forever.
    I wonder though...are you the average poster? There are many folks here... with many journeys.
  • While this advise may have been well intended, the approach was simply awful. Everyone is here to make a change. In my 10 years of "dieting" I've gone from needing to lose 10 lbs to needing to lose over 200. It is not about drastic changes or will power. I've done all that. I lost 120 lbs in 7 months a few years back. I lived on green beans and fish. The weight fell off, but the minute the weight was gone, I wanted real food again. Gained back the 120 plus another 50 for good measure. I've done denial to the hilt, and lost and gained more weight than I care to think about. I've juiced, done Atkins, cabbage soup, Nutrasystem, and so on. This time i'm not dieting. I'm not giving up foods I know i'll crave until they throw me off my goal. I'm going to try something that will work for the long haul. Keeping my calories in check and moving more. If I want bread, I will eat bread as long as I have the calories for it. These are changes for the rest of my life, not just until I reach a goal weight. I'm ready to get off the diet bus that only seems to stop in fatville. I judge no one and cheer on anyone brave enough to make their diary's available for scrutiny. Bacon and white bread won't kill me as quickly as constantly dieting and gaining huge amounts of weight back is going to. That said, my grandmother lived to the wonderful age of 95. She cooked everything she ate in bacon grease and thought nothing of eating pie for breakfast. She didn't eat the "right" foods, but she never over ate either. She ate what she wanted in moderation and never stopped moving. She would have made it to 110 had it not been for breast cancer. Those of us who battle our weight face judgement everyday, we don't need it here. Try a more positive approach next time, more people may actually hear your message. Good luck to all!
  • MFP: easy website to troll, or easiest website to troll?

    Seriously, a 70 year old woman saying I don't give a rats *kitten*, "lol", "lookin good dude". Seriously? Seriously?!?

    I'm surprised a 70 year old knows how to get to a website.

    Well pilgrim you just learned something. My 71 year old builds computers so you learned something new today. Not to mention I make a great living on this computer as a virtual assistant to Realtors across the country. Old doesn't make you stupid.

    It doesn't make you the giver of unending wisdom either miss.
  • scopetrek
    scopetrek Posts: 16 Member
    You do you,I do me ok?

    if doing ourselves was working, why are we all on here trying to find "fitness pals"? we should do each other..lol:laugh:
  • FitnFeistyLyness
    FitnFeistyLyness Posts: 757 Member
    the only thing i have to add is nutrition is always changing. its all about finding what works for you..
  • nancyluckhurst3
    nancyluckhurst3 Posts: 122 Member
    I know how to do it just have a problem keeping it off because I am also a gourmet cook and I love to eat what I cook.

    And people should take your advice why????

    My diary is open also, if you dare.

    Did I ask you to take my advice? I offer and if the shoe fits wear it. If it doesn't move on.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    ohhhhh!! OP works with realtors!



    it all makes sense now

    HEY! :angry: :angry: :angry:




    Actually I was about to ask how she got that job, because I'd love to do my current job from my sofa while wearing my pjs.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member

    I am not saying you won't lose weight. But you should eat healthy and sure once in a while you can splurge too but just be careful what you eat on a regular basis. If you make good choices in the fast food places you can do it. You can stay below your calorie goal also, how ever when your sodium intake is twice the recommended for your goal you are a walking heart attack looking to happen. Like I said it is about balance. There is more to look at in your diet than calories in an calories out.

    As an athlete I have to eat much more than the suggested max of 2500 mg (The Institute of Medicine recommends 1500 mg of sodium per day as the Adequate Intake level). I need to consume around 3500 mg per day because I am very active. My blood work comes back perfect.

    I do understand that there is more to look at than just calories. Fat is essentail to health and various metabolic activities. Carbohydrates are needed for energy, plus they are usually great sources of fiber and micronutrients. Protein is essential for repair of muscles. That is why I said determine appropriate macro nutrient levels and make sure to hit your micronutrient needs.

    I can easily eat ice cream every night and fit it in my calories, macros and micros. We each need to find what works for us and how to balance this forever.
    I wonder though...are you the average poster? There are many folks here... with many journeys.

    When it comes to the sodium intake mine is not average. The rest of it is. As I stated, "We need to find out what works for us and how to balance this forever." If that means you stop eating bread and fast food that's fine. For many people that's what it takes at first, but coming in and saying that nobody should do *THIS* or that everyone should do *THAT* is a highly inappropriate blanket statement.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member

    I am not saying you won't lose weight. But you should eat healthy and sure once in a while you can splurge too but just be careful what you eat on a regular basis. If you make good choices in the fast food places you can do it. You can stay below your calorie goal also, how ever when your sodium intake is twice the recommended for your goal you are a walking heart attack looking to happen. Like I said it is about balance. There is more to look at in your diet than calories in an calories out.

    As an athlete I have to eat much more than the suggested max of 2500 mg (The Institute of Medicine recommends 1500 mg of sodium per day as the Adequate Intake level). I need to consume around 3500 mg per day because I am very active. My blood work comes back perfect.

    I do understand that there is more to look at than just calories. Fat is essentail to health and various metabolic activities. Carbohydrates are needed for energy, plus they are usually great sources of fiber and micronutrients. Protein is essential for repair of muscles. That is why I said determine appropriate macro nutrient levels and make sure to hit your micronutrient needs.

    I can easily eat ice cream every night and fit it in my calories, macros and micros. We each need to find what works for us and how to balance this forever.
    I wonder though...are you the average poster? There are many folks here... with many journeys.

    When it comes to the sodium intake mine is not average. The rest of it is. As I stated, "We need to find out what works for us and how to balance this forever." If that means you stop eating bread and fast food that's fine. For many people that's what it takes at first, but coming in and saying that nobody should do *THIS* or that everyone should do *THAT* is a highly inappropriate blanket statement.
    AGREED. Granted, this happens daily here.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I know how to do it just have a problem keeping it off because I am also a gourmet cook and I love to eat what I cook.

    And people should take your advice why????

    My diary is open also, if you dare.

    Did I ask you to take my advice? I offer and if the shoe fits wear it. If it doesn't move on.

    You know, I eat fast food many times per week and I'm pretty confident that by any measure I'm significantly healthier than you've ever been in your life.

    Your ideas about nutrition are outdated and wrong.
  • misti777
    misti777 Posts: 217 Member
    I will encourage and give advice as I please.
    I hate to pull this line, but no one asked for your advice about this. I have asked people on my friends list, hey, I feel like I may have eaten too much, can you check out my diary? You don't need to post a topic to the whole of MFP about how people don't eat right. If someone specifically asks for advice, THAT is when you give it.

    Okay, my reply may have sounded really rude. But people get offended really easily if someone judges or even if they mean well and try to give some advice when the person on the receiving end did not ask for any advice. My aunt has told me a few times that I should eat less here or eat less of that, or will even give me a disapproving look or shake her head to herself, but really at me. And I get offended. Why? because I didn't ask for her advice. Being get offended and take judgements over what they consume really personally sometimes. I hope I didn't sound like everyone else telling you about being up on your high horse. Because that isn't true. I know that eating a lot of processed foods is bad for your health. I would eat completely clean if I could, but I can't go completely without having something cooked or something added to it. It just wouldn't satisfy and I would fail at changing to a lifestyle like that.
  • nancyluckhurst3
    nancyluckhurst3 Posts: 122 Member
    my favorite chef on TV is Paula Dean but ohhhhhhhh if I lived at her house I would weigh twice what I do now :flowerforyou:

    I don't cut all the crap out but I try to eat some what healthy

    I love Paula too and have used many of her recipes. I make her Divinity Candy recipe for my favorite Son in Law every year for Christmas. Another of my favorites is Emeril Lagasse.
  • Snow__White
    Snow__White Posts: 1,650 Member
    My Italian grandparents are 20 years older than you and eat massive quantities of white bread, pasta, fatty meats and sweets. They have never been anywhere near overweight. I guess they were doing it wrong. My great Grammy used to poor gravy for the pour people at the soup kitchens since those people were pour.
    :laugh:
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member

    I am not saying you won't lose weight. But you should eat healthy and sure once in a while you can splurge too but just be careful what you eat on a regular basis. If you make good choices in the fast food places you can do it. You can stay below your calorie goal also, how ever when your sodium intake is twice the recommended for your goal you are a walking heart attack looking to happen. Like I said it is about balance. There is more to look at in your diet than calories in an calories out.

    Did you know that they've found the link between sodium and blood pressure to be much weaker than once thought? While it's true that too much sodium can be bad, so can too little. And obesity has a much stronger relationship with heart disease than sodium intake. So does genetics, if I recall correctly.

    Just an anecdote: My grandfather had a stroke at the age of 29 (causes not clearly understood for that one … he was a WWII vet so maybe something related there, it's impossible to tell). So both my grandparents ate relatively low sodium for most of their adult lives. My grandpa still had a heart attack at 65, another at 68, and then congestive heart failure progressing until he died at 74. My grandma, on the other hand, didn't have a stroke until she was in her 80s. Same diet, different genetics, different outcome (and again, anecdotal is all, it's just an example)
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    MFP: easy website to troll, or easiest website to troll?

    Seriously, a 70 year old woman saying I don't give a rats *kitten*, "lol", "lookin good dude". Seriously? Seriously?!?

    I'm surprised a 70 year old knows how to get to a website.

    Well pilgrim you just learned something. My 71 year old builds computers so you learned something new today. Not to mention I make a great living on this computer as a virtual assistant to Realtors across the country. Old doesn't make you stupid.

    Pardon me for interrupting. I'm sorry so many have questioned your wise expertise and sage advice.

    However, your post comes across with a "know-it-all" attitude that isn't usually well-received from newcomers to this website.

    Forgive me if I choose to question your belief system about food and weight loss. However, I have been quite successful at losing weight all while eating McDonald's, fast food, and other indulgences. Your post really does come off judgmental as you can't look in someone's diary and know their personal goals or strategies to fitness and health. You have an opinion about certain foods while others do not share it.

    Looking down on others or shaming people's choices is sort of frowned upon here. It's not exactly the best way to introduce yourself.
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Seven pages of piling on.......nice.
  • knra_grl
    knra_grl Posts: 1,566 Member
    my favorite chef on TV is Paula Dean but ohhhhhhhh if I lived at her house I would weigh twice what I do now :flowerforyou:

    I don't cut all the crap out but I try to eat some what healthy

    I love Paula too and have used many of her recipes. I make her Divinity Candy recipe for my favorite Son in Law every year for Christmas. Another of my favorites is Emeril Lagasse.

    my mom used to cook like Paula :heart:
  • nancyluckhurst3
    nancyluckhurst3 Posts: 122 Member
    I eat 6 slices of bacon everyday...sup

    I so love bacon :love:

    Oh I don't think anyone loves bacon more than I do. And I used to start every morning with bacon, eggs and toast. All I am saying is it is better to be moderate in everything. I do allow myself bacon twice a week.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I eat 6 slices of bacon everyday...sup

    I so love bacon :love:

    Oh I don't think anyone loves bacon more than I do. And I used to start every morning with bacon, eggs and toast. All I am saying is it is better to be moderate in everything. I do allow myself bacon twice a week.

    Moderate in everything. Except McDonald's. :laugh:
  • kenthepainter
    kenthepainter Posts: 195 Member
    I eat as healthy as possible, some days I don't but I try to keep the calories on track. If I'm gonna keep the weight off I need the "bad foods "once in awhile, nothing worse for weight loss than feeling deprived .
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    Thanks for the advice, OP. It's clear that you mean well, but the post came off as kind of a bossy "know-it-all." A lot of people around here have been here a long time and have had great success simply following MFP's calorie logging method and eating what they want within their calorie limits. They don't want to be told what to do by a new person and they don't want misinformation to be spread either.

    I've been here on MFP maintaining for almost 3 years now, and I cook AND eat gourmet food (just like you) all the time, but I never have an issue with keeping the weight off. There's nothing wrong with eating foods you enjoy, as long as you keep the calories in check (mind your portions and earn more calories through exercise.)

    I do agree with you that for health, you should keep the focus primarily on well balanced, nutritious foods, but there's no one rule for everyone to follow when it comes to choosing which foods to eat for weight loss or maintenance. Like the 2 slices of bacon and 3 slices of bread a week thing. That's kind of arbitrary and meaningless for most of us.

    I get that you are trying to be helpful. This is a rough crowd sometimes. Good luck with your weight loss! :flowerforyou:
  • broox80
    broox80 Posts: 1,195 Member
    Thanks for telling my what I may and may not eat. I ate McDonalds yesterday. Its all about balance. As per my ticker, I am not doing too horrible! !! Buh bye now!!!!
  • knra_grl
    knra_grl Posts: 1,566 Member
    MFP: easy website to troll, or easiest website to troll?

    Seriously, a 70 year old woman saying I don't give a rats *kitten*, "lol", "lookin good dude". Seriously? Seriously?!?

    I'm surprised a 70 year old knows how to get to a website.

    Well pilgrim you just learned something. My 71 year old builds computers so you learned something new today. Not to mention I make a great living on this computer as a virtual assistant to Realtors across the country. Old doesn't make you stupid.

    Pardon me for interrupting. I'm sorry so many have questioned your wise expertise and sage advice.

    However, your post comes across with a "know-it-all" attitude that isn't usually well-received from newcomers to this website.

    Forgive me if I choose to question your belief system about food and weight loss. However, I have been quite successful at losing weight all while eating McDonald's, fast food, and other indulgences. Your post really does come off judgmental as you can't look in someone's diary and know their personal goals or strategies to fitness and health. You have an opinion about certain foods while others do not share it.

    Looking down on others or shaming people's choices is sort of frowned upon here. It's not exactly the best way to introduce yourself.

    Well this is the thing...at 70 she deserves my smile and nod :bigsmile:

    on that note I am off to do something constructive :drinker:
  • broox80
    broox80 Posts: 1,195 Member
    I eat 6 slices of bacon everyday...sup

    I so love bacon :love:

    Oh I don't think anyone loves bacon more than I do. And I used to start every morning with bacon, eggs and toast. All I am saying is it is better to be moderate in everything. I do allow myself bacon twice a week.


    Moderate in everything. Except McDonald's. :laugh:

    The #1 people are out again today!!! Geezzzzz!!!!
  • alicialetta
    alicialetta Posts: 7 Member
    Wow. Need a ladder for that horse?

    Yes. This 100%.
  • nancyluckhurst3
    nancyluckhurst3 Posts: 122 Member
    I am seeing posting and when looking at their food diaries it is a nightmare. Take it from an old lady who has lost a whole ton of weight in my life. I know how to do it just have a problem keeping it off because I am also a gourmet cook and I love to eat what I cook.

    You can have bread but cut back to 2-3 slices a week and do whole wheat vs white. A little pasta goes a long way. You can have a slice or 2 of bacon a week. It won't kill you. I see people staying below their calorie intake but everything else is out of control. You need a balance. If you don't eat a good healthy diet you may lose but you are not making choices that are going to keep the weight off.

    I believe in staying young. My motto is "When I grow up I might grow old but don't try to hold me to it." I live my life one day at a time. Getting mad just raises your blood pressure and destroys your health and those how made you made could care less.

    You don't have to deprive yourself but for God's sake stay out of McDonalds if you are serious. Learn how to cook. It is fun and you will feel much more satisfied. If you are eating packaged meals you are filling your body with sodium and crap that will make you sick. If anyone would like recipes let me know I will be glad to help you out. some of you are asking for a stroke or heart attack and I am not some kind of health nut believe me.

    You know what's really funny? You don't write like a seventy year old at all. You write like someone who came of age in the last decade or two.

    Why do you think that is, Nancy?
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member


    Pardon me for interrupting. I'm sorry so many have questioned your wise expertise and sage advice.

    However, your post comes across with a "know-it-all" attitude that isn't usually well-received from newcomers to this website.

    Forgive me if I choose to question your belief system about food and weight loss. However, I have been quite successful at losing weight all while eating McDonald's, fast food, and other indulgences. Your post really does come off judgmental as you can't look in someone's diary and know their personal goals or strategies to fitness and health. You have an opinion about certain foods while others do not share it.

    Looking down on others or shaming people's choices is sort of frowned upon here. It's not exactly the best way to introduce yourself.

    This reply gets bonus points for tact.
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    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
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    HappyStack Posts: 802 Member
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