Will a little jail time do Bieber some good??? Vote up MFP.
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Agree!!Would rather see him deported back to Canada0 -
try-hard...thought you were cool for writing that... Ill go easy on you though because your insecurity is so palpable...clearly sensitive...
oh man. i'm dying over here. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: i hope everyone else is too.
brah, i look forward to your attention-whoring, psuedointellectual, megalomaniacal, elitist, judgmental future posts. :drinker:
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(CNN) -- In a few terrible seconds, teen star Justin Bieber made his attorney Roy Black's job a heck of a lot harder.
Bieber, who was arrested in Miami Beach on Thursday for drunken driving, resisting arrest and driving without a valid license, decided it would be a good idea to spill his guts to the Miami Beach Police Department.
According to Miami Beach Police Chief Raymond Martinez, during his arrest, Bieber "made some statements that he had consumed some alcohol, and that he had been smoking marijuana and consumed some prescription medication," before getting behind the wheel of a yellow Lamborghini.
On the surface, this could look like Bieber was just being an honest guy, admitting to his wrongdoings. But look a little further, and you'll see a young man who has done the worst possible thing a defendant in any case could do. He opened his mouth. And in doing that, he's also doing the state's job for them.
Justin Bieber should have just shut up.
The great thing about the American justice system is that it is based on an adversarial process that requires the state to actually PROVE your guilt with evidence.
Guess whose job it is to gather that evidence? That's right, it's the job of the state -- in this case, the state of Florida.
The defendant is entitled to a presumption of innocence. The defendant -- nor his attorney -- doesn't have to prove a thing. The defense attorney only needs to raise reasonable doubt to the state's version of the story.
Where Bieber went wrong was voluntarily handing over evidence of his own guilt by admitting to criminal behavior, and therefore assisting in handing the prosecutor a conviction on a silver platter.
The moment Bieber was placed under arrest, he was read those words that we hear on every procedural cop drama on television: "You have the right to remain silent."
All Bieber had to do was shut his mouth. Such a simple concept.
It makes no sense why more defendants don't use this precious liberty. Contrary to popular belief, keeping your lips sealed is not an indication of guilt. It's just plain smart.
It gives your defense lawyer a much greater chance of success, because his client isn't participating in his own prosecution. When you are fighting the state and their plentiful resources of investigators, detectives, crime labs and prosecutors, the last thing a defense lawyer needs is his own client working against him.
Roy Black is NOT happy with his client right now.
Defending a client against an impaired driving charge is no easy task. The public interest in keeping impaired drivers off the road is understandably great. No one wants to see our society in harm's way because of irresponsible drivers.
However, the integrity of our justice system requires that every defendant get an opportunity to have his guilt or innocence determined according to the evidence against him.
By making statements against his own interests, Bieber actually helps to undermine the whole process. His lawyer's job is not to get him "off." Black's task is to hold the state accountable to its burden of providing evidence -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- that Bieber is in fact guilty of the crimes charged against him.
By failing to perform the simple task of remaining silent, Bieber has done the exact thing Miranda rights are designed to prevent -- he has incriminated himself.
Unlike instances where outside evidence can be refuted by the defense as speculative or circumstantial, self-incrimination is incredibly tough to refute because the defendant himself provided it. Unless you want to attack the credibility of your own client, the defense lawyer is in an awful position. Sure, defense lawyers can try to suppress the statements, but without facts to support coercion, this can also be a tall order.
The right to remain silent is a gift from our Constitution (from the Fifth Amendment, to be exact).
So if you are ever in as an unfortunate situation as Bieber found himself in early Thursday morning, listen to the police officer's instructions, cooperate fully, call your attorney -- and keep your mouth shut
As if that makes a difference.
lol at people who think people with money aren't above the law.
All the problems and show outs and lashing out happens when people don't respect his inner Ghengis Khan and keep trying to go toe to toe with him like hes the same Badger-tooth JB.
The man makes other superstar celebrities bow to his whims. You can't defeat him, you can only beta yourself in his shadow.
Thats what people don't understand when they try to get bad with him, or act like he's a pansy.
They don't understand that he has already won and you automatically lost when you tried to expose your ego and compete with him.
Me compete with him? What a joke, there is nothing to compete with; and it looks to me that since you are as shallow and immature as he is but much older than him, it is not a desired trait.0 -
He needs 2 years in the Canadian Army.0
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(CNN) -- In a few terrible seconds, teen star Justin Bieber made his attorney Roy Black's job a heck of a lot harder.
Bieber, who was arrested in Miami Beach on Thursday for drunken driving, resisting arrest and driving without a valid license, decided it would be a good idea to spill his guts to the Miami Beach Police Department.
According to Miami Beach Police Chief Raymond Martinez, during his arrest, Bieber "made some statements that he had consumed some alcohol, and that he had been smoking marijuana and consumed some prescription medication," before getting behind the wheel of a yellow Lamborghini.
On the surface, this could look like Bieber was just being an honest guy, admitting to his wrongdoings. But look a little further, and you'll see a young man who has done the worst possible thing a defendant in any case could do. He opened his mouth. And in doing that, he's also doing the state's job for them.
Justin Bieber should have just shut up.
The great thing about the American justice system is that it is based on an adversarial process that requires the state to actually PROVE your guilt with evidence.
Guess whose job it is to gather that evidence? That's right, it's the job of the state -- in this case, the state of Florida.
The defendant is entitled to a presumption of innocence. The defendant -- nor his attorney -- doesn't have to prove a thing. The defense attorney only needs to raise reasonable doubt to the state's version of the story.
Where Bieber went wrong was voluntarily handing over evidence of his own guilt by admitting to criminal behavior, and therefore assisting in handing the prosecutor a conviction on a silver platter.
The moment Bieber was placed under arrest, he was read those words that we hear on every procedural cop drama on television: "You have the right to remain silent."
All Bieber had to do was shut his mouth. Such a simple concept.
It makes no sense why more defendants don't use this precious liberty. Contrary to popular belief, keeping your lips sealed is not an indication of guilt. It's just plain smart.
It gives your defense lawyer a much greater chance of success, because his client isn't participating in his own prosecution. When you are fighting the state and their plentiful resources of investigators, detectives, crime labs and prosecutors, the last thing a defense lawyer needs is his own client working against him.
Roy Black is NOT happy with his client right now.
Defending a client against an impaired driving charge is no easy task. The public interest in keeping impaired drivers off the road is understandably great. No one wants to see our society in harm's way because of irresponsible drivers.
However, the integrity of our justice system requires that every defendant get an opportunity to have his guilt or innocence determined according to the evidence against him.
By making statements against his own interests, Bieber actually helps to undermine the whole process. His lawyer's job is not to get him "off." Black's task is to hold the state accountable to its burden of providing evidence -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- that Bieber is in fact guilty of the crimes charged against him.
By failing to perform the simple task of remaining silent, Bieber has done the exact thing Miranda rights are designed to prevent -- he has incriminated himself.
Unlike instances where outside evidence can be refuted by the defense as speculative or circumstantial, self-incrimination is incredibly tough to refute because the defendant himself provided it. Unless you want to attack the credibility of your own client, the defense lawyer is in an awful position. Sure, defense lawyers can try to suppress the statements, but without facts to support coercion, this can also be a tall order.
The right to remain silent is a gift from our Constitution (from the Fifth Amendment, to be exact).
So if you are ever in as an unfortunate situation as Bieber found himself in early Thursday morning, listen to the police officer's instructions, cooperate fully, call your attorney -- and keep your mouth shut
As if that makes a difference.
lol at people who think people with money aren't above the law.
All the problems and show outs and lashing out happens when people don't respect his inner Ghengis Khan and keep trying to go toe to toe with him like hes the same Badger-tooth JB.
The man makes other superstar celebrities bow to his whims. You can't defeat him, you can only beta yourself in his shadow.
Thats what people don't understand when they try to get bad with him, or act like he's a pansy.
They don't understand that he has already won and you automatically lost when you tried to expose your ego and compete with him.
Me compete with him? What a joke, there is nothing to compete with; and it looks to me that since you are as shallow and immature as he is but much older than him, it is not a desired trait.
How about we let the younger girls decide what is a desired trait these days...
I can tell you from experience its pretty looking bad boys like me...0 -
good idea0
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(CNN) -- In a few terrible seconds, teen star Justin Bieber made his attorney Roy Black's job a heck of a lot harder.
Bieber, who was arrested in Miami Beach on Thursday for drunken driving, resisting arrest and driving without a valid license, decided it would be a good idea to spill his guts to the Miami Beach Police Department.
According to Miami Beach Police Chief Raymond Martinez, during his arrest, Bieber "made some statements that he had consumed some alcohol, and that he had been smoking marijuana and consumed some prescription medication," before getting behind the wheel of a yellow Lamborghini.
On the surface, this could look like Bieber was just being an honest guy, admitting to his wrongdoings. But look a little further, and you'll see a young man who has done the worst possible thing a defendant in any case could do. He opened his mouth. And in doing that, he's also doing the state's job for them.
Justin Bieber should have just shut up.
The great thing about the American justice system is that it is based on an adversarial process that requires the state to actually PROVE your guilt with evidence.
Guess whose job it is to gather that evidence? That's right, it's the job of the state -- in this case, the state of Florida.
The defendant is entitled to a presumption of innocence. The defendant -- nor his attorney -- doesn't have to prove a thing. The defense attorney only needs to raise reasonable doubt to the state's version of the story.
Where Bieber went wrong was voluntarily handing over evidence of his own guilt by admitting to criminal behavior, and therefore assisting in handing the prosecutor a conviction on a silver platter.
The moment Bieber was placed under arrest, he was read those words that we hear on every procedural cop drama on television: "You have the right to remain silent."
All Bieber had to do was shut his mouth. Such a simple concept.
It makes no sense why more defendants don't use this precious liberty. Contrary to popular belief, keeping your lips sealed is not an indication of guilt. It's just plain smart.
It gives your defense lawyer a much greater chance of success, because his client isn't participating in his own prosecution. When you are fighting the state and their plentiful resources of investigators, detectives, crime labs and prosecutors, the last thing a defense lawyer needs is his own client working against him.
Roy Black is NOT happy with his client right now.
Defending a client against an impaired driving charge is no easy task. The public interest in keeping impaired drivers off the road is understandably great. No one wants to see our society in harm's way because of irresponsible drivers.
However, the integrity of our justice system requires that every defendant get an opportunity to have his guilt or innocence determined according to the evidence against him.
By making statements against his own interests, Bieber actually helps to undermine the whole process. His lawyer's job is not to get him "off." Black's task is to hold the state accountable to its burden of providing evidence -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- that Bieber is in fact guilty of the crimes charged against him.
By failing to perform the simple task of remaining silent, Bieber has done the exact thing Miranda rights are designed to prevent -- he has incriminated himself.
Unlike instances where outside evidence can be refuted by the defense as speculative or circumstantial, self-incrimination is incredibly tough to refute because the defendant himself provided it. Unless you want to attack the credibility of your own client, the defense lawyer is in an awful position. Sure, defense lawyers can try to suppress the statements, but without facts to support coercion, this can also be a tall order.
The right to remain silent is a gift from our Constitution (from the Fifth Amendment, to be exact).
So if you are ever in as an unfortunate situation as Bieber found himself in early Thursday morning, listen to the police officer's instructions, cooperate fully, call your attorney -- and keep your mouth shut
As if that makes a difference.
lol at people who think people with money aren't above the law.
All the problems and show outs and lashing out happens when people don't respect his inner Ghengis Khan and keep trying to go toe to toe with him like hes the same Badger-tooth JB.
The man makes other superstar celebrities bow to his whims. You can't defeat him, you can only beta yourself in his shadow.
Thats what people don't understand when they try to get bad with him, or act like he's a pansy.
They don't understand that he has already won and you automatically lost when you tried to expose your ego and compete with him.
Me compete with him? What a joke, there is nothing to compete with; and it looks to me that since you are as shallow and immature as he is but much older than him, it is not a desired trait.
How about we let the younger girls decide what is a desired trait these days...
I can tell you from experience its pretty looking bad boys like me...
...or humility. Mhmm *rubs chin thoughtfully* that might be a desired trait...0 -
(CNN) -- In a few terrible seconds, teen star Justin Bieber made his attorney Roy Black's job a heck of a lot harder.
Bieber, who was arrested in Miami Beach on Thursday for drunken driving, resisting arrest and driving without a valid license, decided it would be a good idea to spill his guts to the Miami Beach Police Department.
According to Miami Beach Police Chief Raymond Martinez, during his arrest, Bieber "made some statements that he had consumed some alcohol, and that he had been smoking marijuana and consumed some prescription medication," before getting behind the wheel of a yellow Lamborghini.
On the surface, this could look like Bieber was just being an honest guy, admitting to his wrongdoings. But look a little further, and you'll see a young man who has done the worst possible thing a defendant in any case could do. He opened his mouth. And in doing that, he's also doing the state's job for them.
Justin Bieber should have just shut up.
The great thing about the American justice system is that it is based on an adversarial process that requires the state to actually PROVE your guilt with evidence.
Guess whose job it is to gather that evidence? That's right, it's the job of the state -- in this case, the state of Florida.
The defendant is entitled to a presumption of innocence. The defendant -- nor his attorney -- doesn't have to prove a thing. The defense attorney only needs to raise reasonable doubt to the state's version of the story.
Where Bieber went wrong was voluntarily handing over evidence of his own guilt by admitting to criminal behavior, and therefore assisting in handing the prosecutor a conviction on a silver platter.
The moment Bieber was placed under arrest, he was read those words that we hear on every procedural cop drama on television: "You have the right to remain silent."
All Bieber had to do was shut his mouth. Such a simple concept.
It makes no sense why more defendants don't use this precious liberty. Contrary to popular belief, keeping your lips sealed is not an indication of guilt. It's just plain smart.
It gives your defense lawyer a much greater chance of success, because his client isn't participating in his own prosecution. When you are fighting the state and their plentiful resources of investigators, detectives, crime labs and prosecutors, the last thing a defense lawyer needs is his own client working against him.
Roy Black is NOT happy with his client right now.
Defending a client against an impaired driving charge is no easy task. The public interest in keeping impaired drivers off the road is understandably great. No one wants to see our society in harm's way because of irresponsible drivers.
However, the integrity of our justice system requires that every defendant get an opportunity to have his guilt or innocence determined according to the evidence against him.
By making statements against his own interests, Bieber actually helps to undermine the whole process. His lawyer's job is not to get him "off." Black's task is to hold the state accountable to its burden of providing evidence -- beyond a reasonable doubt -- that Bieber is in fact guilty of the crimes charged against him.
By failing to perform the simple task of remaining silent, Bieber has done the exact thing Miranda rights are designed to prevent -- he has incriminated himself.
Unlike instances where outside evidence can be refuted by the defense as speculative or circumstantial, self-incrimination is incredibly tough to refute because the defendant himself provided it. Unless you want to attack the credibility of your own client, the defense lawyer is in an awful position. Sure, defense lawyers can try to suppress the statements, but without facts to support coercion, this can also be a tall order.
The right to remain silent is a gift from our Constitution (from the Fifth Amendment, to be exact).
So if you are ever in as an unfortunate situation as Bieber found himself in early Thursday morning, listen to the police officer's instructions, cooperate fully, call your attorney -- and keep your mouth shut
As if that makes a difference.
lol at people who think people with money aren't above the law.
All the problems and show outs and lashing out happens when people don't respect his inner Ghengis Khan and keep trying to go toe to toe with him like hes the same Badger-tooth JB.
The man makes other superstar celebrities bow to his whims. You can't defeat him, you can only beta yourself in his shadow.
Thats what people don't understand when they try to get bad with him, or act like he's a pansy.
They don't understand that he has already won and you automatically lost when you tried to expose your ego and compete with him.
Me compete with him? What a joke, there is nothing to compete with; and it looks to me that since you are as shallow and immature as he is but much older than him, it is not a desired trait.
How about we let the younger girls decide what is a desired trait these days...
I can tell you from experience its pretty looking bad boys like me...
...or humility. Mhmm *rubs chin thoughtfully* that might be a desired trait...
Hmmm... what about that one girl that liked me for my cocky-funny personality traits?0 -
Send him home to be jailed in Canada. He'd be in medium security with 90 guys to a room- most of them native Canadians. It would definitely do him good. Will it ever happen. Never!!0
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Send him home to be jailed in Canada. He'd be in medium security with 90 guys to a room- most of them native Canadians. It would definitely do him good. Will it ever happen. Never!!
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i want to shave his head so much. while he is sleeping. then cackle maniacally0
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Yes, it would. But don't make him go back to Stratford-- it's too nice. (I've been there for the theater a lot).
He needs to have his $$$ taken away and actually make his living like a normal person and see that life actually gives you consequences for bad behavior when you're a normal human. :yawn:0 -
Lol how is Bieber an a-hole?
You would have given me all the money and the fame in the world at age 16 like that and the power to sleep with any woman on earth??
I would have already died.
The point where he is now is actually admirable and respectable. I applaud his attitude in respect to the pressures of his existence.
We all grow up and go through such a phase of becoming a young man and wanting to act tough. Its part of normal maturity.
Except he is growing up in the public eye. I think all of you putting him down are ignoring how obvious it is that you are just jealous of a man who became more popular than any celebrity in the whole world with his first hit single and a handful of youtube vids.
How is he the most popular celebrity in the world? How is he admirable & respectable? Ron Howard would be an example of a child/teenage star making the transition normally to what he is today.0 -
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/deport-justin-bieber-and-revoke-his-green-card/ST1yqHJL
Online petition to deport Justin Bieber. Yes I did sign it!!0 -
Doubt it. He hangs with the wrong people. He'll continue to hang with the wrong people. He's a moron.0
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