Calorie Counting Dr Oz Show

freedom403

OK Great. Yesterday on the Dr. OZ show the Paleo diet rep said that most people who count calories as a weight loss technique end up gaining back all and more of their weight. The statistics he quoted were high. What do you all think? I found it discouraging since that is what is working for me right now. Grrr.

_Zardoz_

It's Dr Oz he talks out of his ****

UnicornAmanda

That's discouraging.

QueenBishOTUniverse

You are not likely to find high opinions of Dr. Oz or any of his guests on these threads. Carry on and ignore the quack.

usmcmp

I think people who go on diets that completely eliminate food groups end up failing long before they have the chance to gain it all back.

Tons of us have had success with calorie counting. Many of us could leave here and do well without counting calories because we are aware of serving size and calorie dense items. Learn tools while you are here to carry on forever.

GiveMeCoffee

I think you should stop watching the Dr Oz show.

As for the calorie counting, if you begin to understand nutrition, portion control, moderation and a better relationship with food you will have better success keeping off the weight.

Sery18

Opinions, opinions! It's all about choices! Any type of a "diet" is or should be a life change. Being healthy is a choice. Eating right is a choice. Being happy is a choice:) Nuf said!!

sophayz

what may work for some may not for others . find what works for you and screw dr Oz . he is getting paid to say the things he says

EddieHaskell97

Iknowsaur

The Dr. Oz show is about as credible as the Tyra Banks show.
You feel me, bro?

asciident

A lot of people who try all kinds of weight loss methods fail. For example, people can calorie count AND try eliminate favorite/comfort foods. That fails frequently, and it isn't because of counting calories.

Iknowsaur

Oh my god I love you.

csuhar

I think it's over-simplification. In particular, I think it's done so that the Paleo diet rep can tell you his diet is your cure-all if you stick to it. Of course, the same could be said of counting calories.

IMO, the reason people who lose weight by dieting gain it back is they forget their body needs constant attention and then they stop maintaining whatever discipline they used. If you use things like counting calories as a temporary solution to "fix" something and don't incorporate it as a new part of your lifestyle, you're going to fall back on old habits once your "diet" is over. The result is you get back to your old weight.

becs3578

Well if you count calories.. and then stop and stop caring you will probably gain them back. But I am going to be optimistic that country calories now will lead me to make better choices far into my future!!!!

I did PALEO for a while last year.. and while I am not strict paleo anymore I gain a lot of knowledge and good habits that I am still using now!

atcross

Well, I've heard from several sources that most people who lose weight on any kind of diet will ultimately regain it. People try to say that you will not gain weight if you eat mostly healthful, nutrient-dense food, but I sure as heck have. Calories matter. It's better they are nutritious calories, but it still matters how much healthy food you eat. Besides, doesn't Dr. Oz endorse all kinds of stupid, useless or dangerous diet drugs? I don't think I'd be taking any advice from him.

Azchange

that is what is working for me .

What is the question?

cheripugh1

Dr. Oz is a extremely great HEART Dr. he has this show and he does try for heart reasons to get people to lose wt. that said we all have our 'diet' idea so he seems to bring on many of the leading diets, diets that have worked for MANY and shows the pros and I suppose any cons... I've actually seen him come out and say when he was wrong about a certain thing and say why he was wrong... so that said, it is up to you to do more research if you are interested in that diet or in that information, google it and then go to MD.com or Mayo clinic.com and educate yourself.

shelbym87

First of all, if health is at all your concern, you need to turn off the Dr. Oz show. Seriously. Secondly, counting/logging calories along with moderate exercise has been the only way I can lose weight. Do what works for you. But I PROMISE no pill, gimmick, or quick fix Dr. Oz is selling this week will work. Eat less, move more. Long been the only "secret".

mschicagocubs

Isn't it like that with any "diet" ?

Weight Watchers was successful for me for a year. Then I stopped and here I am 2 years later, with 1/2 the weight back on me.

I dont think it necessarily matters which way you are trying to lose weight as long as you dont lose the weight and then think OMG IM SKINNY! I CAN EAT EVERYTHING AGAIN!

It doesnt work like that ...

Mr_Excitement

What a load of crap. Counting calories is the only means of losing weight and keeping it off. Things like paleo are just an indirect way of restricting your calorie intake by limiting yourself to mostly unappetizing, or at least very calorie-light, foods.

BusyRaeNOTBusty

This. And the guy was trying to get people to go for paleo, of course he's going to discredit other methods.

Lizzy622

He was a Paleo diet guy. Of course he would say that. Of course the stats for calorie counting is higher because it has been around much much longer. MFP is also different than most "diet" plans. You can and should stay on into maintenance (at least until you get the hang of it). Most other calorie counting plans (and yes I am including WW because counting points is the same thing) drop you once you hit your goal and don't do anything to help you eat at maintenance. They want you to regain so you can spend more money.

cwolfman13

OK Great. Yesterday on the Dr. OZ show the Paleo diet rep said that most people who count calories as a weight loss technique end up gaining back all and more of their weight. The statistics he quoted were high. What do you all think? I found it discouraging since that is what is working for me right now. Grrr.

I think Dr. Oz is a quack...that said, most people who have weight control issues and lose weight end up gaining back all and more of their weight...not just calorie counters. Only about 5% of people who lose weight by any means end up keeping it off over the long term.

The inability of so many to be unable to control their weight has little to do with there method of weight loss and everything to do with there overall lifestyle. Most people lose the weight and think they're "done"....they've crossed the finish line so it's back to "normal". The reality is that there has to be a new normal. You don't stop exercising because you hit your goal weight...something that many people do...it has to become a part of your new "normal"...it has to be a part of your lifestyle. You don't stop rocking your nutrition once you've reached your goal weight...you just get to eat a little bit more...if you have a 500 calorie deficit, eating 500 more calories isn't that much...but people seem to think they hit maintenance and they can just once again start shoveling food into their faces.

These are just a couple of the reasons people fail to keep the weight off. Really, it comes down to understanding the nutrition, fitness, health, etc...these are lifetime endeavors and you are never done.

richardheath

I think that MOST diets fail, and people end up gaining the weight back. Be it calorie counting, Atkins, Weight Watchers or even Paleo...

The think about Paleo is that they like to say you can eat whatever you want and NOT count calories. Simply eating all that meat and fat will satiate you. And for some people, that might be true. But, it isn't guaranteed. To lose weight you must be in a calorie deficit - it's simple math. People who do Atkins cut out a lot of carbs, which are energy dense. But when they come off Atkins, they put the weight back on because guess what? They start eating like they did before! People who count calories stop counting. People who eat paleo start adding "cheat" foods etc etc...

Further, there does seem to be some influence of fat levels on various hormones in the body. People who lose a lot of weight very fast tend to have slowered metabolisms because of it, so when they go back to their "normal" levels of eating, it is too much, so they gain back what they lost plus some more.

The key, therefore, is to watch what you eat (be it paleo, Atkins or IIFYM) but make it a change to your eating habits you can live with forever. And the simplest way to watch what you eat is to count the calories (simple yes, but not always easy!). Very low calorie diets, cutting out random food groups etc simply don't work for many people long term as they can't keep it up. Make small changes, eat at a reasonable calorie deficit and be consistent. It takes time, but then the weight didn't appear overnight either.

Oh, and stop watching Dr Oz! That'll be the best thing you can do for your (mental) health ;-)

ktkdmommy

I agree, I don't think its just counting calories, I think most diets fail just because people don't stick with them.

RivenV

And I counted every calorie in it.

Steph_in_Mississippi

I don't doubt Dr. Oz is a smart man. But one day he says one thing and the next week says the total opposite. One week he will say green tea is bad for you and the next week is the best thing for you.

I have little faith in the man's opinion.

sheilarosella

best thing I have heard all day Amen

jennycina93

Dr. Oz apparently also had a spokesperson on the show for some miracle drug that is supposed to "melt the pounds off" claiming you would lose like 9 pounds a week. Obviously we all know on MFP that there is no miracle drug or herb. That's just one example but I don't think Dr. Oz is the best person to take advice/inspiration from if these are the types of things that he promotes. Just my personal opinion.

fast_eddie_72

I think people who go on diets that completely eliminate food groups end up failing long before they have the chance to gain it all back..

I think people who go on diets end up failing. I try to avoid saying that. For me, a "diet" is a thing you do for a while. By definition, if you end your diet and go back to what you were doing before, you'll have the same result. Presumably, that's get fat again for most of us. I may not count calories as vigorously as I am now for the rest of my life, but I hope that if I do stop, I will have developed a sense of how many calories I'm actually eating. If that doesn't work, I'll be back to logging every bite. Not a diet - a healthy relationship with food.

kkay3182

Watched Dr Oz religiously for 2 years and gained 70lbs (no joke) Bought every supplement, tried all the regiments routines blah blah, not one was sustainable in the long run!! Stumbled on this site in November 2013, COUNTING CALORIES and have lost 24lbs so far not only do I feel better but I can actually do this. I always ate healthy foods, but I was clueless as to how much (read portion control) I was actually consuming
.....Use olive oil he said!!! do you know how quickly 3tblspoons of olive oil put you in excess of your daily caloric needs... I found out here!!!
I could go on with the list Nuts are good, sure but a handful if half my calorie needs..
In short You cant do everything, try all the healthy things and take all the supplements and do a million routines, You have to find what works for you and you have to count calories, because no matter how healthy our diet are if we eat more than we need we will always have more LBS than we want .
Don't get me wrong, incorporate all the healthy things you can but me mindful of their true caloric value... yes I still have olive oil but now it is carefully measured in a measuring spoon as opposed to a "turn around the pan"
I know I am not a Dr on TV but what I am is overweight and losing it!
I am not losing it because I want to look good, but I have been lucky thus far health-wise being fat my whole life and free of medical complications (except childhood asthma), so I decided to stop tempting fate and get my butt in shape before I am forced to!!