Calorie Counting Dr Oz Show

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  • marzipan927
    marzipan927 Posts: 3
    Weight loss works by eating a calorie deficit, simple.

    Once you've reached that goal you eat the calories needed ti maintain your weight
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    Regardless, yes a large percentage of people gain the weight back.
  • zilfig64
    zilfig64 Posts: 71 Member
    First off - Dr. Oz is a snake oil salesman - he will say anything, or get anyone on his show to make a buck. Anything he says should be taken as quackery.

    Secondly, while there is a small kernel of truth in the statement "People who count calories tend to gain back their weight." That can be said of any diet - Atkins, Paleo, Southbeach, etc. - most people who pick a "diet" are really looking for a quick fix - i.e. it took me 12 years to gain 100lbs, but I want to lose it in the next 30 days. changing how you eat is a lifestyle change - you have to want to do it and stick to it.

    The biggest point against this... Take alook at the tickers of people on MFP - virtually everyone on MFP counts calories - check out their join date, and pounds lost. I have lost 74 pounds in 10 months, and I am constantly amazed and impressed with the number of people who have lost 100, 125, 150+ pounds - or 10 lbs for that matter - all by counting calories.
  • missomgitsica
    missomgitsica Posts: 496 Member
    It's Dr Oz he talks out of his ****

    ^^THIS^^
  • maybeazure
    maybeazure Posts: 301 Member
    Most people who lose weight gain it back with any diet gain it back. Period. If you count calories and then stop, you'll gain it back. If you eat Paleo or low carb or grapefruit or whatever and then stop, you'll gain it back.

    You just have to be one of the ones who defy the statistics. For me calorie counting makes more sense than anything else, so that's what I'm doing...knowing that if I want to keep the weight off I'll have to pay attention to it for the rest of my life.
  • navyrigger46
    navyrigger46 Posts: 1,301 Member
    I'll say it yet again, if Dr. Oz recommended breathing, I'd have to reconsider my entire philosophy on the subject.

    Rigger
  • jennycina93
    jennycina93 Posts: 127 Member
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    ^^This is great
  • nuttyfamily
    nuttyfamily Posts: 3,394 Member
    I've kept off my 60 pounds for ten years now and that was with first WW and then I switched to calorie counting. I would say I know just as many who have kept their weight off as who have gained.

    I won't say it is easy but am sure that Paleo guy is just pushing his stuff on.
  • emboslice94
    emboslice94 Posts: 60
    I can see his point in some ways.

    PERSONALLY, I find that using MFP has made me aware of portion sizing and of amounts of food. If you rely on MFP to calculate your calories all the time then when you stop and just go willy nilly, that makes sense that you gain it back. but if you learn what size various portions are and how many portions of what you need throughout the day, I think that skill will help prevent the weight returning.

    I do count calories, but sometimes I take weeks off and I just try to go off of what I've learned about portion control and how I feel with eating, and when I realize that 1. the world hasn't ended and 2. that I haven't gone out of control, I feel that calorie counting works. But sometimes, like lately, the accountability has kept me in check which is nice. But I know if my computer or phone crashed, I'd be okay without MFP.
  • jamesalytle
    jamesalytle Posts: 112 Member
    90% of what I see on that show I call BS on. It's in his best interest to say that because he gets to keep a show pitching all his amazing secrets... Not to say he doesn't have some interesting tid bits on there from time to time. I'm on the look out for these kelp noodles that are virtually no calories, great in pasta, and only have to be washed not cooked. Haven't found them yet out here in the sticks but if I do i'm going to try them.
  • 970Mikaela1
    970Mikaela1 Posts: 2,013 Member
    I will count calories for the foreseeable future.
  • kwantlen2051
    kwantlen2051 Posts: 455 Member
    I think it doesn't really matter what type of diet we're on - whether vegan, vegetarian, paleo, etc. - what matters is the AMOUNT of food we take in. Thus calorie counting DOES MATTER. Sorry but this is the way it is if you want to stay slim, fit and healthy for life.
  • bethannien
    bethannien Posts: 556 Member
    A) the Paleo guy was probably selling a book. B) statistics are incredibly easy to manipulate so they sound like you want them to.

    Calorie counting doesn't fail. People fail to continue that lifestyle.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    OK Great. Yesterday on the Dr. OZ show the Paleo diet rep said that most people who count calories as a weight loss technique end up gaining back all and more of their weight. The statistics he quoted were high. What do you all think? I found it discouraging since that is what is working for me right now. Grrr.

    People watching Dr. Oz is discouraging.
  • FP4HSharon
    FP4HSharon Posts: 664 Member
    That's ridiculous! The biggest weight loss study done, I think it's called the Weight Loss Registry or something & is maintained by a govt. agency, only allow people to be part of the study results if they have lost more than 30 lbs and kept it off for 1-2 year. And the study asks the people what they did to lose the weight. Counting calories was always in the top 5.

    Even Dr. Oz's own WIFE has told him that she doesn't approve of some of the shows he does now.
  • ReturnToRunning
    ReturnToRunning Posts: 118
    What he failed to mention is that those are the people who stop once they reach their goal. They get there and think they completed and can eat whatever. Just keep at it and you'll always be good :)
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Most diets fail. It doesn't matter if you count calories, or stop eating certain foods. If you return to eating more than maintenance you gain weight.

    I lost weight NOT counting and have kept it off for around 12 years. Others here have lost weight counting and kept it off. We all kept it off by remaining mindful and not thinking of it as a short term solution.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    OK Great. Yesterday on the Dr. OZ show ...

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  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    OK Great. Yesterday on the Dr. OZ show the Paleo diet rep said that most people who count calories as a weight loss technique end up gaining back all and more of their weight. The statistics he quoted were high. What do you all think? I found it discouraging since that is what is working for me right now. Grrr.
    Any diet that lowers your food intake so that you can get to a healthy weight will also keep you at that healthy weight as long as you keep doing so.

    The difference between counting calories and all the others is that one is sustainable for the rest of your life. The others are not something I would want to do for the rest of my life.
  • dlionsmane
    dlionsmane Posts: 674 Member
    Well I believe that anything you use as 'dieting', as in has an expiration, will fail. If you don't look at what you are doing as a life long choice then it will fail. You have to commit to something that is sustainable, for the rest of your life. Does that mean you have to obsess over every little piece of food that you eat, no. It means find what works for you, work on having a healthy relationship with food and your body and go with that. Know that as you age your body changes and it's needs will change and be open to making the changes you need to make.

    Sustainability is the key to lifelong success.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Well I believe that anything you use as 'dieting', as in has an expiration, will fail. If you don't look at what you are doing as a life long choice then it will fail. You have to commit to something that is sustainable, for the rest of your life. Does that mean you have to obsess over every little piece of food that you eat, no. It means find what works for you, work on having a healthy relationship with food and your body and go with that. Know that as you age your body changes and it's needs will change and be open to making the changes you need to make.

    Sustainability is the key to lifelong success.
    Exactly. FIND WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.
  • cardsfanlv
    cardsfanlv Posts: 110 Member
    If you go back to your old habits that made you fat in the first place, of course.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    Don't listen to anything on that stupid show.

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  • jenna808
    jenna808 Posts: 79 Member
    I personally feel like Dr. Oz is as credible a doctor as Dr. Pepper. Anything I've ever read that he says or on his show is false information or trying to sell you into something, in this case the paleo diet. While we all know somebody who has counted calories, lost weight and then gained it back (heck, it's happened to me before!) it is usually because the maintenance slips, or that it was not sustainable in the long run in the first place. But that's also the case for all fad diets too. Things that mfp has taught me are correct portion sizes, the importance of a balanced diet, and all things I want in moderation. I can now go for periods of a time without logging because I'm able to listen to my body and know what it needs for energy and feel confident that I can do this as a permanent thing in my life.
  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    Don't listen to anything on that stupid show.

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    That is sooooo cute

    Ok I am on my 3rd year here, what can I say, I like it here. Most of the time, I have nothing in my diary because I have been counting for so long that I do not need to anymore. So I would say that calories counting work as long as you learn new habits.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Someone who believes in a product or specific type of diet that does not involve counting calories will not likely think highly of counting calories especially when it may benefit him or her to hold that belief.

    Likewise, in an environment where people are all counting calories (MFP), it's not likely that methods outside of counting calories will be thought of highly.

    Regarding Dr. Oz, I took this photo last week at a local grocery store. This should give you some insight into the level of quackery Oz promotes:

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  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Well. Dr. Oz is an idiot. Calorie counting is an extremely effective tool for controlling body weight (up or down).

    But I've seen several people doing "calorie counting diets" where they eat a ridiculously low calorie amount for a few weeks. That doesn't work out too well.
  • SparkyRegis
    SparkyRegis Posts: 1
    Today's my first day with My Fitness Pal. I want to encourage you by pointing out my husband's success on a calorie-counting diet. My husband has lost about 20 pounds, taking it slowly, only about a pound a month, on purpose. He says "It's all math," he does not feel cheated or unfulfilled, and he says it's a no-brainer as long as he enters his numbers every day. If he wants to go over his daily limit, he doesn't deprive himself; he makes up for it. I'm really surprised Dr. Oz would not consider it a good, permanent weight loss method. All my life I've heard that watching your calories and getting exercise is the only tried and true weight loss method.
  • kbmnurse
    kbmnurse Posts: 2,484 Member
    Dr Oz=Quack!
  • MiloBloom83
    MiloBloom83 Posts: 2,724 Member
    Someone who believes in a product or specific type of diet that does not involve counting calories will not likely think highly of counting calories especially when it may benefit him or her to hold that belief.

    Likewise, in an environment where people are all counting calories (MFP), it's not likely that methods outside of counting calories will be thought of highly.

    Regarding Dr. Oz, I took this photo last week at a local grocery store. This should give you some insight into the level of quackery Oz promotes:

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    Where can I find the magic syrup? Is it by the acai berries and raspberry Keytones?

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