Sobriety
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addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
Yes, but since the thread is about sobriety, which implies that it's for people with some level of addiction/dependence, this really isn't the place for it. (Yes, I thought the don't understand drinkers, not fun comment was also misplaced.)
Good point and if you look at my first post i simply stated my situation with drinking, it wasn't me who started this, life isn't black and white, how people treat drink is a very personal thing and everyone is different, i have not once said anything negative about people with addictions but as usual some people love the drama and mock outrage, i think some on here need to take life a little less serious, maybe a beer, joint and cheeseburger would do them a world of good in between calculating their tdee and calorie content of a green bean0 -
Good point and if you look at my first post i simply stated my situation with drinking, it wasn't me who started this
I agree that it wasn't you who started it. Can you be the one who lets it end?0 -
*Bonus side effect of getting sober*
A friend of mine stopped drinking last year after a health scare. Just from cutting out the weekend binges and the daily 6 pack or 12 pack or whatever it was that he drank (it was a lot) he's lost almost 100 pounds and he's not sick all the time. :flowerforyou:0 -
The OP started this thread as a celebration of her sobriety and to offer her support to those in need. I don't recall her chastising anyone who drinks, or telling anyone what they should or should not do.
Lots of people on this thread think they know alot about alcoholism. Let me tell you that until you have lived that particular brand of hell, you know not of what you speak.
Thank you Silver for sharing your experience, strength, and hope.0 -
Only those who have a problem with alcohol have to bash those of us who do not drink. I love having fun sober. As far as those who only drink on the weekend in excess you are what's called a functioning alcoholic. My husband was one so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. My husband was nonviolent. His only abuse of me was neglect. I was basically a single parent with a drunk for a husband. He went to work and worked hard. He was killed in a automobile accident the day after a night of moderate drinking for him and because he blood alcohol was .1 I was out over 50,000 dollars of insurance. It was .02 over. This could happen to those of you who think it can't. Been there, done that and had to clean up his financial mess. He functioned like he was not under the influence but he was. For 5 years of my life after that accident I barely survived financially so don't you dare put me down because I don't drink.
I am not putting you down i wish people would read posts properly, all over the world there are people who go to the pub/bar.drink at home over the weekend, according to doctors and the do gooders they are alcohol dependant, most have happy lives, treat their familes well, function normally and have no problems with health, they enjoy a drink and god forbid get a bit tipsy, addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
one poster actually said they have never drank and tried to play high and mighty, it's like saying i have never eaten chicken but it is rubbish
You can drink, get drunk and be a normal decent person, everything is an issue with some people, no wonder head doctors drive Mercedes
Haha buddy, trying to compare someone never drinking and someone never eating chicken is totally opposite things.
You're right I said I've never drank and I'm DAMN proud of it and have every right to be. I'm extremely strong-willed and will never break the values and beliefs I hold when it comes to alcohol. Don't EVER try to question my sobriety. Not once in this thread have I acted as if I am better than someone who drinks, because I don't feel that way at all. I'm no better than someone who consumes alcohol. So don't go putting words in my mouth and try to make it seem like it's something it's not.
I agree i have never consumed caviar and never will, i will never eat fish eggs, it is against all i hold sacred, if there is a thread on this subject i will certainly dive in even though i have no knowledge on the subject whatsover
I told lewis hamilton the other day that he changes gear to soon, i might not have a licence myself and he certainly looked at me strange but i am confident he took it on board0 -
addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
Yes, but since the thread is about sobriety, which implies that it's for people with some level of addiction/dependence, this really isn't the place for it. (Yes, I thought the don't understand drinkers, not fun comment was also misplaced.)
Good point and if you look at my first post i simply stated my situation with drinking, it wasn't me who started this, life isn't black and white, how people treat drink is a very personal thing and everyone is different, i have not once said anything negative about people with addictions but as usual some people love the drama and mock outrage, i think some on here need to take life a little less serious, maybe a beer, joint and cheeseburger would do them a world of good in between calculating their tdee and calorie content of a green bean
Kindly GTFO. What are you doing in a thread about sobriety talking about how people should have a drink once in a while?
And if you BINGE drink once a week, you have a problem.0 -
Only those who have a problem with alcohol have to bash those of us who do not drink. I love having fun sober. As far as those who only drink on the weekend in excess you are what's called a functioning alcoholic. My husband was one so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. My husband was nonviolent. His only abuse of me was neglect. I was basically a single parent with a drunk for a husband. He went to work and worked hard. He was killed in a automobile accident the day after a night of moderate drinking for him and because he blood alcohol was .1 I was out over 50,000 dollars of insurance. It was .02 over. This could happen to those of you who think it can't. Been there, done that and had to clean up his financial mess. He functioned like he was not under the influence but he was. For 5 years of my life after that accident I barely survived financially so don't you dare put me down because I don't drink.
I am not putting you down i wish people would read posts properly, all over the world there are people who go to the pub/bar.drink at home over the weekend, according to doctors and the do gooders they are alcohol dependant, most have happy lives, treat their familes well, function normally and have no problems with health, they enjoy a drink and god forbid get a bit tipsy, addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
one poster actually said they have never drank and tried to play high and mighty, it's like saying i have never eaten chicken but it is rubbish
You can drink, get drunk and be a normal decent person, everything is an issue with some people, no wonder head doctors drive Mercedes
And you are?0 -
13 years for me. I am probably a lot older than most of you on here who are sober and happy for it. Consider yourself so amazing for getting sober when you did. I spent so much of life suffering in my alcoholic disease and being so miserable.
But i am thankful for each and every day now and never looked back. and a special congrats. to the OP for posting her story. evern though we might be years apart in age, i totally related to your story. I was the shy kid who agonized doing anything socially unless I took those few drinks. and it was downhill from then on0 -
Only those who have a problem with alcohol have to bash those of us who do not drink. I love having fun sober. As far as those who only drink on the weekend in excess you are what's called a functioning alcoholic. My husband was one so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. My husband was nonviolent. His only abuse of me was neglect. I was basically a single parent with a drunk for a husband. He went to work and worked hard. He was killed in a automobile accident the day after a night of moderate drinking for him and because he blood alcohol was .1 I was out over 50,000 dollars of insurance. It was .02 over. This could happen to those of you who think it can't. Been there, done that and had to clean up his financial mess. He functioned like he was not under the influence but he was. For 5 years of my life after that accident I barely survived financially so don't you dare put me down because I don't drink.
I am not putting you down i wish people would read posts properly, all over the world there are people who go to the pub/bar.drink at home over the weekend, according to doctors and the do gooders they are alcohol dependant, most have happy lives, treat their familes well, function normally and have no problems with health, they enjoy a drink and god forbid get a bit tipsy, addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
one poster actually said they have never drank and tried to play high and mighty, it's like saying i have never eaten chicken but it is rubbish
You can drink, get drunk and be a normal decent person, everything is an issue with some people, no wonder head doctors drive Mercedes
Haha buddy, trying to compare someone never drinking and someone never eating chicken is totally opposite things.
You're right I said I've never drank and I'm DAMN proud of it and have every right to be. I'm extremely strong-willed and will never break the values and beliefs I hold when it comes to alcohol. Don't EVER try to question my sobriety. Not once in this thread have I acted as if I am better than someone who drinks, because I don't feel that way at all. I'm no better than someone who consumes alcohol. So don't go putting words in my mouth and try to make it seem like it's something it's not.
I agree i have never consumed caviar and never will, i will never eat fish eggs, it is against all i hold sacred, if there is a thread on this subject i will certainly dive in even though i have no knowledge on the subject whatsover
I told lewis hamilton the other day that he changes gear to soon, i might not have a licence myself and he certainly looked at me strange but i am confident he took it on board
Considering my education background, I know plenty about alcoholism.
I don't need to be an alcoholic or a drinker to write a comment to the OP congratulating her on her sobriety.
I find it funny because you are trying to say I have no knowledge of the subject, yet you are far from sober and according to you, aren't an alcoholic (even though you are a binge drinker). So what the hell are you doing in this thread? :laugh:
Like I said before, you continue to make an *kitten* out of yourself so I think it's best if you just stop.0 -
addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
Yes, but since the thread is about sobriety, which implies that it's for people with some level of addiction/dependence, this really isn't the place for it. (Yes, I thought the don't understand drinkers, not fun comment was also misplaced.)
Good point and if you look at my first post i simply stated my situation with drinking, it wasn't me who started this, life isn't black and white, how people treat drink is a very personal thing and everyone is different, i have not once said anything negative about people with addictions but as usual some people love the drama and mock outrage, i think some on here need to take life a little less serious, maybe a beer, joint and cheeseburger would do them a world of good in between calculating their tdee and calorie content of a green bean
Kindly GTFO. What are you doing in a thread about sobriety talking about how people should have a drink once in a while?
And if you BINGE drink once a week, you have a problem.
Yes i believe my arms will fall off any day now, if you believe i have a problem that would bother me why? an expert in being dull is not a credential you know, GTFO by the way is it not past your bedtime0 -
you guys can put the person causing trouble on ignore instead of letting him derail the thread.
maybe
and then celebrate your sobriety, etc.0 -
Only those who have a problem with alcohol have to bash those of us who do not drink. I love having fun sober. As far as those who only drink on the weekend in excess you are what's called a functioning alcoholic. My husband was one so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. My husband was nonviolent. His only abuse of me was neglect. I was basically a single parent with a drunk for a husband. He went to work and worked hard. He was killed in a automobile accident the day after a night of moderate drinking for him and because he blood alcohol was .1 I was out over 50,000 dollars of insurance. It was .02 over. This could happen to those of you who think it can't. Been there, done that and had to clean up his financial mess. He functioned like he was not under the influence but he was. For 5 years of my life after that accident I barely survived financially so don't you dare put me down because I don't drink.
I am not putting you down i wish people would read posts properly, all over the world there are people who go to the pub/bar.drink at home over the weekend, according to doctors and the do gooders they are alcohol dependant, most have happy lives, treat their familes well, function normally and have no problems with health, they enjoy a drink and god forbid get a bit tipsy, addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
one poster actually said they have never drank and tried to play high and mighty, it's like saying i have never eaten chicken but it is rubbish
You can drink, get drunk and be a normal decent person, everything is an issue with some people, no wonder head doctors drive Mercedes
Haha buddy, trying to compare someone never drinking and someone never eating chicken is totally opposite things.
You're right I said I've never drank and I'm DAMN proud of it and have every right to be. I'm extremely strong-willed and will never break the values and beliefs I hold when it comes to alcohol. Don't EVER try to question my sobriety. Not once in this thread have I acted as if I am better than someone who drinks, because I don't feel that way at all. I'm no better than someone who consumes alcohol. So don't go putting words in my mouth and try to make it seem like it's something it's not.
I agree i have never consumed caviar and never will, i will never eat fish eggs, it is against all i hold sacred, if there is a thread on this subject i will certainly dive in even though i have no knowledge on the subject whatsover
I told lewis hamilton the other day that he changes gear to soon, i might not have a licence myself and he certainly looked at me strange but i am confident he took it on board
Considering my education background, I know plenty about alcoholism.
I don't need to be an alcoholic or a drinker to write a comment to the OP congratulating her on her sobriety.
I find it funny because you are trying to say I have no knowledge of the subject, yet you are far from sober and according to you, aren't an alcoholic (even though you are a binge drinker). So what the hell are you doing in this thread? :laugh:
Like I said before, you continue to make an *kitten* out of yourself so I think it's best if you just stop.
i am sober five days a week and you telling me to stop will do what precisely, can you list the pinions that you think are valid and the whole forum can bow down to your wishes
good luck to the op by the way which seems to have been lost with the pitch fork brigrade0 -
Also, It is clear he is seeking attention. Dont give him what he wants
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I want to apologize to Laura, this isn't how this thread was supposed to go.
I am so incredibly proud of you, and you will always be an inspiration to me.0 -
addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
Yes, but since the thread is about sobriety, which implies that it's for people with some level of addiction/dependence, this really isn't the place for it. (Yes, I thought the don't understand drinkers, not fun comment was also misplaced.)
Good point and if you look at my first post i simply stated my situation with drinking, it wasn't me who started this, life isn't black and white, how people treat drink is a very personal thing and everyone is different, i have not once said anything negative about people with addictions but as usual some people love the drama and mock outrage, i think some on here need to take life a little less serious, maybe a beer, joint and cheeseburger would do them a world of good in between calculating their tdee and calorie content of a green bean
Kindly GTFO. What are you doing in a thread about sobriety talking about how people should have a drink once in a while?
And if you BINGE drink once a week, you have a problem.
Yes i believe my arms will fall off any day now, if you believe i have a problem that would bother me why? an expert in being dull is not a credential you know, GTFO by the way is it not past your bedtime
The fact that i don't NEED alcohol to have fun makes me the opposite of dull.
And if you want to talk age, too bad your 44 years of life experience brought you so little wisdom.0 -
Personally, I've never been a drinker. Don't understand why anyone would find it fun.
If it wasn't fun people wouldn't do it, my old man said never trust a teetotaller and he was right
A bad tasting liquid that results in a lower IQ? No thanks, I'll pass & keep my brain cells.
There have been many people who could be classed as a genius who have drunk to excess never mind in moderation. anyone knows this so as a non drinker who seems blissfully unaware of such a fact i wouldn't mention IQ levels
For anyone who has misread my posts to clarify for the mock outrage brigrade
Addiction is a terrible thing as i have stated
Drinking is fun otherwise people wouldn't do it
I drink too much at weekend according to doctors but don't bother during the week
My point that non drinkers are a little dull/can't have a laugh may seem like putting a small group into one pot but the replies so far doesn't help their cause
Awaits a "think of the children" reply from the usual Oprah crowd
Do you know one of the easiest ways to spot an addict in denial? They say things like this:non drinkers are a little dull/can't have a laugh
to justify things like this
.I drink too much at weekend
I drink too much according to doctors not me, and as they keep changing their mind who cares, an addict cannot blissfully go without alchohol for five days and be an addict, that is my defintion, i know addicts and they wake up and want a drink their life revolves around it, if weekend drinkers are addicts then a few billion people are addicts according to this rule, common sense really has gone to pot
As a working full-time addiction counsellor, you are very wrong. I can see your are making your own definitions and guidelines that are against those of the DSM (so the criteria does not keep changing like you claim) in order to defend your position on your alcohol use. Just because you can go 5 days straight without a drink DOES NOT mean you do not have a problem.0 -
Thank you for sharing! There is a lot of addiction in my family. I don't have addiction, but I also don't always handle alcohol well (even just a couple drinks can sometimes plummet me into a bad place of dealing with my past trauma). So, it's something I think about. I didn't drink for a decade, and for me that was a good thing (I stopped during that time frame because I had so many bad experiences with it when I was younger). It's always good to share because you never know who you might help. It's not an easy thing to talk about! Thanks so much!0
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I want to apologize to Laura, this isn't how this thread was supposed to go.
x2.
For the record, I did send a request asking that the derailing post be removed -- and I sincerely hope that it is.
OP, I wish you the happiest life, filled with sobriety (and kitten and rainbows and sunshine ) and thank you for reaching out. Though I am not an alcoholic, I love one and seeing people like you gives me hope. 0 -
Only those who have a problem with alcohol have to bash those of us who do not drink. I love having fun sober. As far as those who only drink on the weekend in excess you are what's called a functioning alcoholic. My husband was one so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. My husband was nonviolent. His only abuse of me was neglect. I was basically a single parent with a drunk for a husband. He went to work and worked hard. He was killed in a automobile accident the day after a night of moderate drinking for him and because he blood alcohol was .1 I was out over 50,000 dollars of insurance. It was .02 over. This could happen to those of you who think it can't. Been there, done that and had to clean up his financial mess. He functioned like he was not under the influence but he was. For 5 years of my life after that accident I barely survived financially so don't you dare put me down because I don't drink.
I am not putting you down i wish people would read posts properly, all over the world there are people who go to the pub/bar.drink at home over the weekend, according to doctors and the do gooders they are alcohol dependant, most have happy lives, treat their familes well, function normally and have no problems with health, they enjoy a drink and god forbid get a bit tipsy, addicts are different they don't have that cut off point, it is an illness and i feel for them but i will not be lectured by the non drinking by choice brigrade who come up with all sorts of low IQ crap
one poster actually said they have never drank and tried to play high and mighty, it's like saying i have never eaten chicken but it is rubbish
You can drink, get drunk and be a normal decent person, everything is an issue with some people, no wonder head doctors drive Mercedes
Haha buddy, trying to compare someone never drinking and someone never eating chicken is totally opposite things.
You're right I said I've never drank and I'm DAMN proud of it and have every right to be. I'm extremely strong-willed and will never break the values and beliefs I hold when it comes to alcohol. Don't EVER try to question my sobriety. Not once in this thread have I acted as if I am better than someone who drinks, because I don't feel that way at all. I'm no better than someone who consumes alcohol. So don't go putting words in my mouth and try to make it seem like it's something it's not.
I agree i have never consumed caviar and never will, i will never eat fish eggs, it is against all i hold sacred, if there is a thread on this subject i will certainly dive in even though i have no knowledge on the subject whatsover
I told lewis hamilton the other day that he changes gear to soon, i might not have a licence myself and he certainly looked at me strange but i am confident he took it on board
Considering my education background, I know plenty about alcoholism.
I don't need to be an alcoholic or a drinker to write a comment to the OP congratulating her on her sobriety.
I find it funny because you are trying to say I have no knowledge of the subject, yet you are far from sober and according to you, aren't an alcoholic (even though you are a binge drinker). So what the hell are you doing in this thread? :laugh:
Like I said before, you continue to make an *kitten* out of yourself so I think it's best if you just stop.
i am sober five days a week and you telling me to stop will do what precisely, can you list the pinions that you think are valid and the whole forum can bow down to your wishes
good luck to the op by the way which seems to have been lost with the pitch fork brigrade
You're missing the point. Typical denial behavior.
By definition, a man is at high risk of becoming an alcoholic if he has 15 or more drinks a week; for women, 12 or more drinks a week; in general, anyone who has five or more drinks per occasion at least once a week.
Based on what you have said, I'm 99.9% positive your weekend binges fit the above descriptions.0 -
i've been thinking a lot about my life pre-sobriety vs. post sobriety. for anyone currently struggling with alcohol abuse or alcoholism, life *can* be truly amazing without booze. and this is not in a preachy "YOU MUST GO TO AA NOW" kind of way. i think if you can find something that works for you (AA, therapy, SMART recovery, yoga, nature walks, running, cooking, spirituality/religion, anything!) that helps keep you from going down the road of addiction, then by all means, embrace what works!
this is just my story...i wrote it at 5 years, 2 months. now, i'm at 6 years and 7 months.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/silvergurl518?month=201209
please feel free to add or message me if you need motivation/support. i wish the best to all of you
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Congrats on your sobriety! I hope one day to say I've made it that long.
My 2 year sobriety is on Feb 26th. Nobody knows how important that date is to me, but my husband and I. I was more of a functional alcoholic, I'd wake up, go to work, come home and get *kitten* faced, and then do it all again the next day. That was my life...over and over and over. Each day was like waking up in hell. I thought I needed alcohol. Then one day I asked God for help, and He delivered in the most unusual way. That in itself is a long story.0 -
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Personally, I've never been a drinker. Don't understand why anyone would find it fun.
If it wasn't fun people wouldn't do it, my old man said never trust a teetotaller and he was right
A bad tasting liquid that results in a lower IQ? No thanks, I'll pass & keep my brain cells.
There have been many people who could be classed as a genius who have drunk to excess never mind in moderation. anyone knows this so as a non drinker who seems blissfully unaware of such a fact i wouldn't mention IQ levels
For anyone who has misread my posts to clarify for the mock outrage brigrade
Addiction is a terrible thing as i have stated
Drinking is fun otherwise people wouldn't do it
I drink too much at weekend according to doctors but don't bother during the week
My point that non drinkers are a little dull/can't have a laugh may seem like putting a small group into one pot but the replies so far doesn't help their cause
Awaits a "think of the children" reply from the usual Oprah crowd
Do you know one of the easiest ways to spot an addict in denial? They say things like this:non drinkers are a little dull/can't have a laugh
to justify things like this
.I drink too much at weekend
I drink too much according to doctors not me, and as they keep changing their mind who cares, an addict cannot blissfully go without alchohol for five days and be an addict, that is my defintion, i know addicts and they wake up and want a drink their life revolves around it, if weekend drinkers are addicts then a few billion people are addicts according to this rule, common sense really has gone to pot
As a working full-time addiction counsellor, you are very wrong. I can see your are making your own definitions and guidelines that are against those of the DSM (so the criteria does not keep changing like you claim) in order to defend your position on your alcohol use. Just because you can go 5 days straight without a drink DOES NOT mean you do not have a problem.
Okay let's cut all the nonsense it did get silly, explain to me as someone who has some experience in these matters the following
I am typical of a bloke(Man) from england who works all week and at the weekend either goes out or stays at home and hase several drinks, my friends do it, my dad does it, his friends did it, his grand parents did it, millions of people do it, i would say it is unusual for people of my back ground to not have heavy sessions of drinking, the only people i know who have had what i would call health issues are the guys who spent all there time in bars
If more than 20 odd units of alcohol is not safe and is classed as a problem then you are saying millions of people in england alone have a problem, there is a difference between someone who chooses to drink and someone who feels they have to, drinking for me is social, i have gone months in the past without a drink but i choose not to, alcohol like unhealthy food doesn't even cross my mind during the week, i could go the rest of my life without drink or fatty foods but i choose not to
To me an addict needs something to function, i am addicted to nicotine that i know for certain, i know what addiction is in the real world, i have a friend who messed up his liver, someone who drinks on a friday and saturday night is not in the same ballpark and by saying he/she is the message loses it's meaning0 -
Personally, I've never been a drinker. Don't understand why anyone would find it fun.
If it wasn't fun people wouldn't do it, my old man said never trust a teetotaller and he was right
What a weird thing to say in a sobriety thread like this...
...and by "weird", I mean, "douchebaggy".0 -
Wow. Haha. Wow. This got entertaining.
*grabs popcorn*
I applaud those who got sober, those who choose to abstain, and those who drink responsibly.
That is all. Carry on.
Thank you all for the support and sadly, the entertainment 0 -
Wow. Haha. Wow. This got entertaining.
*grabs popcorn*
I applaud those who are sober, who choose to abstain, and those who drink responsibly.
That is all. Carry on.
Thank you all for the support and sadly, the entertainment
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3 yrs 1 months since I've had a drink or 12... Love your write-up Silvergurl!
Congrats to all those who have changed your life for the better.
If you drink... good for you
If you don't ...good for you too
If you have a problem or not... don't hide behind stupid *kitten* comments or excuses0 -
Thanks for sharing your story! I am so glad that I happened on it this morning. (as my head is pounding!)0
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Wow. Haha. Wow. This got entertaining.
*grabs popcorn*
I applaud those who got sober, those who choose to abstain, and those who drink responsibly.
That is all. Carry on.
Thank you all for the support and sadly, the entertainment
This happens a lot on here... But again congrats to you. Not sure if you saw my post (hidden in all of the massive quotes/arguments)...0
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