Paleo Lifestyle Change?
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Well I've been doing a lot of research & it seems that many people have all said the same thing about the GERD issue. I'm not sure how it would help, I haven't looked into that. But I find that whenever I eat grains, I'm always bloated so I feel like I could benefit by cutting back but not eliminating them entirely, I am too scared to do that. Today for instance, I ate way less grains that I normally do & I had so much energy it was ridiculous. And during my research, this was another benefit of the paleo lifestyle. So I thought about transitioning into a 90/10 paleo lifestyle & just wanted some feedback from others from this site in addition to what I found through google.
I would think you could accomplish the same thing by just reducing your carbs to 15% of your diet and continuing on your existing plan? From your profile picture, you appear to be having success doing what you are doing now..
but if you want to try Paleo then by all means do so ….
Exactly. I am doing something quite similar in that I am doing Keto and have eliminated all grains. Gerd is gone. So is the IBS. No more belching, no more teeter totter on the other end. Weight falls off without too much effort on my part. I sleep a solid 8. It probably sounds like I found Jesus under the couch, but I think we all just need to find the food lifestyle that suits our bodies needs, this simply fit mine to a T.
Was it easy giving up the sweets and the grains that actually TASTE sweet once you make the switch? Nope. I simply found that my relationship with food was no different than a bad relationship with a man. It was abusive. I would eat and my body would suffer. For hours. Sometimes even days. What the hell? Who deserves that?
It will take me months, if not years to figure out my fine line of balancing my carb numbers and feeling good. But to be honest, just getting my carbs from veggies and fruits makes me FEEL good. And it dropped my TSH from 62 to 1.2. So yeah, my personal body needed it.0 -
Hey,
I eat mostly paleo and I feel really good. I have gastritis, which seems similiar to GERD, but I don't know that much about GERD. I am also lactose intolerant, and sensitive to grains and legumes, so paleo works really well for me. I have more energy, and get much less stomach aches and headaches. My skin has also cleared up a lot. I eat a lot of vegetables. If you have any specific questions I can answer them.
Wren0 -
Weeeellll,many people quoting studies above me, yet, I must ask, how many of them actually have GERD or IBS? How many of them have gone Paleo or Keto?
How many are aware that GERD and IBS are linked to leaky bowel?
Why so angry?
The only people who should be angry are the ones who are suffering and not finding the answers that they need.
Know this, what has worked for you will NOT automatically work for another.
And if you are wondering where my information comes from, it comes from my doctor as I followed basic advice to go see my endocrinologist before embarking on such a radical change in my diet and lifestyle. I turn in my diet log in sheets and weigh in once every 30 days along with having my blood work done. This has truly been done in an effort to become more healthy.
Search on friends!0 -
I think I'd prefer the Game of Thrones Diet.
Drink all the booze and bang all the time.
Look what it did for them! Most of those folks are super fit!0 -
Paleo isn't inherently bad as a diet (like Atkins and some of the others).
Why is Atkins an "inherent bad diet"?
Because it eliminates carbs, an important macro nutrient.0 -
Hey,
I eat mostly paleo and I feel really good. I have gastritis, which seems similiar to GERD, but I don't know that much about GERD. I am also lactose intolerant, and sensitive to grains and legumes, so paleo works really well for me. I have more energy, and get much less stomach aches and headaches. My skin has also cleared up a lot. I eat a lot of vegetables. If you have any specific questions I can answer them.
Wren
totally check out "Why Stomach Acid is Good For You" by Stephen Wright - it'll blow your mind. It deals with all digestive disorders and completely changed my life.
congrats on your success!
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Cutting back on grains won't give you the results of a Paleo lifestyle. Please don't be another person who thinks they can still eat everything usually excluded and then say "Paleo doesn't work". If your goal is to only lose weight and you still want to eat everything that you are currently eating, just eat at a calorie deficit. Eating whole foods, and minimizing processed foods, is a great idea though.
A keto Paleo lifestyle has worked wonders for my health. It's a permanent lifestyle for me. If it wasn't, it would be a FAIL.
Whatever suits you best and is sustainable for your entire life is the only lifestyle that will work for you.0 -
Hey,
I eat mostly paleo and I feel really good. I have gastritis, which seems similiar to GERD, but I don't know that much about GERD. I am also lactose intolerant, and sensitive to grains and legumes, so paleo works really well for me. I have more energy, and get much less stomach aches and headaches. My skin has also cleared up a lot. I eat a lot of vegetables. If you have any specific questions I can answer them.
Wren
Thank you Wren!
Right now, My diet is pretty strict and i follow it pretty closely. I have managed to regulate my cholesterol, liver enzymes, and tri's with a fairly strict keto diet. I currently am up to 35 carbs a day garnered from vegetables and low (limited) sugar fruits) I have dropped 18 pounds in 2 1/2 months. So, it's getting there 0 -
A low fat, high fiber diet is more likely to help with GERD.
http://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/diet-nutrition#1
True, but for some...
placebo effect > facts
the hell are you talking about? explain plz?
what about anything I've listed in this thread constitutes a placebo effect?
Who says I was talking about you? :laugh:
ok then back up your statement. what claim in this thread constitutes a placebo effect? if you're gonna make assertions like that at least be prepared to back them up. common courtesy.
The claim that avoiding fiber or eliminating grains is a panacea. Others say that after two days they feel "really, really good." A lot of "feeling good" is mental health.0 -
A low fat, high fiber diet is more likely to help with GERD.
http://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/diet-nutrition#1
True, but for some...
placebo effect > facts
the hell are you talking about? explain plz?
what about anything I've listed in this thread constitutes a placebo effect?
Who says I was talking about you? :laugh:
ok then back up your statement. what claim in this thread constitutes a placebo effect? if you're gonna make assertions like that at least be prepared to back them up. common courtesy.
The claim that avoiding fiber or eliminating grains is a panacea. Others say that after two days they feel "really, really good." A lot of "feeling good" is mental health.
No one suggested the bolded, first off. And secondly, who are you to question how or why someone feels the way they do?
Moreover, what research or knowledge in the subject of GERD do you have that gives you the credibility to agree with the assertion that low fat, high fiber diets are better for the condition? If you've had a history with GERD then I'll concede that you have made a valid, or at least arguable point.0 -
Paleo isn't inherently bad as a diet (like Atkins and some of the others).
Why is Atkins an "inherent bad diet"?
aren't you the one who just posted about grandstanding, thread derailments and "not answering the OPs question?"
huh.
LOL complaining about the exact same thing you did = ironically priceless0 -
Here's my experience with Paleo/Primal. I started out strict Paleo, but later shifted into a more Primal approach as I found that I could add certain foods back in with no ill-effect. For example, with Primal, you can eat dairy if it agrees with you (don't have any adverse issues with lactose, casein, etc.), though they aim for full-fat varieties over low fat versions (cream, butter, cheese, full-fat yogurt, whole milk, etc.). But strict paleo adherents will say no dairy at all. For more info on Primal, check out marksdailyapple.com
I find that I just feel waaaay better eating Primal, and I think that's something you'll find with a lot of people who love the Paleo/Primal lifestyle. However, I now understand why it feels so much better to me. After years of bouts of major fatigue and weight gain/difficulty losing weight (among other symptoms), the only thing that had helped was switching to Primal. Although the fatigue had gotten better, I was still really struggling with losing weight (I had a good 30-40 lbs to lose). After eating at a deficit of 700+ calories/day and not losing any weight, I finally convince my doctor to look into it further. He finally believed me that "eat less and move more" wasn't enough for me and something was up.
A few specialists later, and I was diagnosed with both Hashimoto's thyroiditis (thyroid condition) and insulin resistance. I suspected the Hashi's for some time and pushed for blood tests specific to that, but the insulin resistance was a surprise (though I now know that they often go hand-in-hand). Primal works great for Hashi's as it's an autoimmune disorder and they think is triggered by certain foods -- gluten seems to be the most popular of the suspected culprits. My specialist actually suggested Paleo and was happy to hear that I was already eating that way.
I suspect that a lot of people that love Primal have experiences like mine -- they've had undiagnosed conditions for years -- either digestive issues, GERD, thyroid issues, lymph issues, etc., but they haven't been severe enough to be diagnosed by their doctors. They start Paleo/Primal and all of a sudden a lot of their symptoms clear up and they feel awesome.
As for weight loss, I know a lot of people that have done great body recomp and weight loss through Primal eating and exercise, though that may be accomplished just easily with a similar macro level. Usually, for Primal people, it ends up being a high fat, moderate protein and low-ish carb diet. The carbs are adjustable based on whether you want to lose fat (then lower the carbs) or are already at a good weight and just want to maintain or gain muscle or focus on performance (then can have more carbs). Eating Primally just sort of lends itself to these macros generally since you're really only getting your carbs from vegetables, some fruits and occasional starchy carbs like sweet potatoes.
I cook Primally, and I don't find it difficult at all. Vegetables, often in butter or coconut oil, tons of herbs, full-fat cheeses, tons of protein (love me a good steak), fruit on occasion (I'm low carbing it for the insulin resistance so I limit my fruit intake), dark chocolate on occasion, certain nuts (almonds, macadamia, etc.), bacon, etc. Shoot, I make a mean vodka sauce and instead of serving over pasta, I use spaghetti squash -- it's really good. In many ways, it's very similar to French cooking.
So, yeah, you're giving up grains so if you're a big bread, pasta or baked goods/sweets person, that part may be difficult. I have dark chocolate from time to time and I find that satisfies my sweet tooth. But, personally, I don't miss the bread, pasta, rice, etc. at all anymore. If I want to do something that they'd normally be served over -- like my penne alla vodka or a nice curry, I just make the sauce and serve it over spaghetti squash. I find it to be an awesome sauce delivery vehicle.
I'm not sure why Paleo/Primal gets so much gruff on this site, but I love it and would highly recommend it to anyone.0 -
Wouldn't a gastroenterologist be the person to ask about what diet is best for a person with GERD, rather than people on a forum?0
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Wouldn't a gastroenterologist be the person to ask about what diet is best for a person with GERD, rather than people on a forum?
Potentially, but many don't treat the condition correctly as I've found over my years of research and first hand experience on the subject, which is why I've referred to Dr. Stephen Wright's work on numerous occasions now. Take his word for it if you don't want to take mine. 0 -
Wouldn't a gastroenterologist be the person to ask about what diet is best for a person with GERD, rather than people on a forum?
Potentially, but many don't treat the condition correctly as I've found over my years of research and first hand experience on the subject, which is why I've referred to Dr. Stephen Wright's work on numerous occasions now. Take his word for it if you don't want to take mine.
My question was actually meant for the OP.0 -
nutritionist maybe, but MD's have truly no concept of how to treat GERD/LPR - I've seen dozens of ENTs including the best in the business and they're all clueless. They just throw you on a permanent regimen of PPIs that don't help, and in fact exacerbate the problem.
I can say this is absolutely true from personal experience.
I had GERD issues when I was overweight. I tried coming off the PPIs after I got to a healthy weight. The reflux just kept rebounding, to which my doctor shrugged and said 'Most people just stay on Prevacid for life. It's fine!'
I wasn't fine with the risk of bone loss from the PPIs, so I did my own personal experiment with tapering my doses. I went from a full dose, to a half dose daily, to a half dose every other day, to a half dose every three days, and so on.
I've been completely off PPIs and without a GERD/reflux recurrence for well over a year now.0 -
A low fat, high fiber diet is more likely to help with GERD.
http://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/diet-nutrition#1
True, but for some...
placebo effect > facts
the hell are you talking about? explain plz?
what about anything I've listed in this thread constitutes a placebo effect?
Who says I was talking about you? :laugh:
ok then back up your statement. what claim in this thread constitutes a placebo effect? if you're gonna make assertions like that at least be prepared to back them up. common courtesy.
The claim that avoiding fiber or eliminating grains is a panacea. Others say that after two days they feel "really, really good." A lot of "feeling good" is mental health.
No one suggested the bolded, first off. And secondly, who are you to question how or why someone feels the way they do?
Moreover, what research or knowledge in the subject of GERD do you have that gives you the credibility to agree with the assertion that low fat, high fiber diets are better for the condition? If you've had a history with GERD then I'll concede that you have made a valid, or at least arguable point.
Um, yeah. Not you, but another poster. Someone who read "Wheat Belly" and learned about witchcraft and food. Go back to the beginning of the thread.0 -
Paleo isn't inherently bad as a diet (like Atkins and some of the others).
Why is Atkins an "inherent bad diet"?
aren't you the one who just posted about grandstanding, thread derailments and "not answering the OPs question?"
huh.
LOL complaining about the exact same thing you did = ironically priceless
At least someone said it. :laugh:0 -
Wouldn't a gastroenterologist be the person to ask about what diet is best for a person with GERD, rather than people on a forum?
^^ This0 -
nutritionist maybe, but MD's have truly no concept of how to treat GERD/LPR - I've seen dozens of ENTs including the best in the business and they're all clueless. They just throw you on a permanent regimen of PPIs that don't help, and in fact exacerbate the problem.
I can say this is absolutely true from personal experience.
I had GERD issues when I was overweight. I tried coming off the PPIs after I got to a healthy weight. The reflux just kept rebounding, to which my doctor shrugged and said 'Most people just stay on Prevacid for life. It's fine!'
I wasn't fine with the risk of bone loss from the PPIs, so I did my own personal experiment with tapering my doses. I went from a full dose, to a half dose daily, to a half dose every other day, to a half dose every three days, and so on.
I've been completely off PPIs and without a GERD/reflux recurrence for well over a year now.
antacids are the biggest scam in the entirety of medicine and pharmaceuticals.0
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