Why do people cut cardio when lifting weights?
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I honestly think not doing cardio might not be such a good thing for lifters.also, this is one of the best cardio workouts you'll ever get:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par37.htm
that's a very complex lift, so start with just the bar and slowly add weight, focusing on proper form . watch a ton of videos of proper form, and shoot video to share online for a form check. don't let your ego get the best of you.
Since cardio tends to take a beating let me at least give it some props for being generally simple. The whole, "watch your form. do lots of research," aspect of lifting is the biggest turn of for someone with an average/slightly below average level of fitness. I'm just happy getting healthier and a little better looking. I don't need to feel like I'm training for the Olympics or like everyone at the gym is going to hold up a score card after my sets over. That's probably me showing how Type B I am but whatever.
to each their own, i think even cardio is more complex than you may think. Frankly, most people use improper form when doing ANY exercise, be it cardio or lifting. Every time i go to the gym I see people running and landing on their toes or heels, or riding a stationary bike with the pedal too close to their toe or heel.
Hang cleans are a complex lift in that if involves multiple movements and there is a risk for injury. That is not to say complex means difficult, though.
You do make a good point in that I think lifting is intimidating for a lot of people because they're not sure how of proper form and recognize the potential for injury. I'm not sure I would have ever started lifting had a coworker not shown me the ropes at our work gym.
My routine the last year especially has been pretty much all cardio. I rejoined the gym a few weeks ago and am working with a trainer on the weights and she's actually impressed with where I'm starting. I'm working my muscles to serious fatigue, yet within a day I'm able to do some decent cardio. I'm finding I can't do anything the day I work legs (especially after!) but the day after I work legs, I can run. And I run very steep hills, so it's quite the workout.
Cardio helps you learn to breathe and it builds endurance and I can't see how that isn't useful to a lifting routine.
I know I'm new at all this, but this has been my observation of my own body and abilities.
Depends on the lifting style.0 -
When I was at my peak powerlifting strength, I should have been doing cardio, specifically, HIIT type for short burst capacity. It would have helped my recovery between sets.
Ultimately, powerlifting training doesn't help your cardio much. Very low reps of very heavy weight with long rest periods between sets. Yes, your heart rate skyrockets along with your BP during and after a heavy set, but it's not cardio. Not when I could squat 650 and get out of breath carrying laundry up 3 floors.0 -
Ok I get not doing cardio just after, but if you only lift 3x a week, why not?
because I don't like cardio that's why not.
For those who like cardio and still cut it out partially it's because they are tired the day of lifting and the day after then they are lifting again...when you are lifting esp compound lifts you are drained...not just immediately after...but sometimes even the day after.
that's like asking I know you don't like broccoli but it's good for you why not eat it...
^THIS
I hate cardio. I used to do endless running and would run on the treadmill for at least 30mins at a time - I HATED it with a passion. I get all my cardio through fitness classes (kettlercise, spinning, body pump, TBC, etc) and weight lift 3 x a week. Much prefer it that way and my body is looking better than it ever has as my muscles are much more toned. Still got BF to lose but I do not intend on upping/starting the cardio.0 -
Here are a couple old studies on interference
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17095931
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/71931340 -
AMEN sister..nicely worded!I cut cardio because lifting is freaking exhausting, and I found I didn't need it to lose weight.0 -
also, this is one of the best cardio workouts you'll ever get:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par37.htm
that's a very complex lift, so start with just the bar and slowly add weight, focusing on proper form . watch a ton of videos of proper form, and shoot video to share online for a form check. don't let your ego get the best of you.
Since cardio tends to take a beating let me at least give it some props for being generally simple. The whole, "watch your form. do lots of research," aspect of lifting is the biggest turn of for someone with an average/slightly below average level of fitness. I'm just happy getting healthier and a little better looking. I don't need to feel like I'm training for the Olympics or like everyone at the gym is going to hold up a score card after my sets over. That's probably me showing how Type B I am but whatever.
Watch your form, and do research should be for someone with an average slightly below average level of fitness when it comes to cardio as well. Those can tend to be the ones who have the worst form when running, and due to that can promote injury.
This makes me think of the person who runs next to me every morning at the gym during the winter. Their running form is awful, and I can tell it takes a toll during their run. They have to stop every minute or so to "stretch" out their calves. A lot of that has to do with the way they are running.
Form and research is solid advice to anyone, no matter the exercise.0 -
Because cardio is sweaty and nasty and exhausting and doesn't make you look better.
THIS.
And because I can.0 -
The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
Cardio burns fat and BURNS lean muscle.
So....it ultimately depends on what you want to do.
I'm still new at it....but that is basically what I've picked up.
I want to be strong AND slim down.....make my body better overall....and I have found that lifting does a MUCH better job than cardio in that department.
The more muscle you have the higher your metabolism...burning fat all day. Cardio only burns while you are doing it (and at the expense of lean muscle which helps burn fat)
So I lift and do minimal cardio for endurance. I may run one or twice a week if the lifting hasn't worn me down. It is VERY important to let your body rest between lifting workouts.
Edited to add.....I have bad knees and have had trouble with them for a few years now. The docs have had a hard time figuring out what was wrong. All but one pretty much told me I was getting old and to get over it and live with it (ticked me off). The one...the last one.....told me that (what should have been obvious to me) I just needed to lose a little weight and strengthen the muscles supporting my knees.
Long story short.........cardio hurt my knees until I started lifting (squats and deadlifts). Lifting strengthened my legs and knees so now running doesn't hurt anymore.0 -
For me, it's time, recovery issues, and simply not enjoying most types of traditional "cardio."
Cardio is not a big "bang for your buck" mode of exercise. You have to do a ton of it to get a calorie burn that even makes it worth the time spent, and it does nothing for my lean body mass, so my general philosophy is to do cardio for enjoyment, not for weight loss.
Lifting heavy is very, very stressful on the body. As such, I have to spend a ton of time recovering from it, in the form of joint mobility work, foam rolling, sleeping, and just plain resting. Intense forms of cardio add more stress and take away from my ability to recover, so I limit my "cardio" to walking and hiking on non-lifting days.
Finally, I don't enjoy running or spending inordinate amounts of time on machines at the gym. It doesn't make sense to do those things just so I can eat more when it's going to take up a lot of my time and interfere with my recovery from lifting.
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You need extra calories to build muscle, so you don't want to be burning away those calories with cardio.0
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I don't like cardio, so when I started lifting weights I could eat more and still not do cardio.
The only cardio I like is the cardio I don't know I'm doing. I like walking, I like bike riding, and crazy as this sounds, I even like snow shoveling (but too much of a good thing is no good
). After 50-60 mins. of weight lifting, the last thing I want is 30-40 mins. on a treadmill. 0 -
The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
You're not building muscle when eating a calorie deficit. With adequate protein and lifting, you can limit the amount of LBM that you lose while reducing weight.0 -
recovery and lifting heavy IS cardio work
i do heavy squats and deadlifts for reps, which are extremely taxing. i don't have to do do cardio or ab work thanks to that. i couldn't run a mile without stopping before i started lifting, but now I can run a 5k easily having done zero standalone cardio training.
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The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
You're not building muscle when eating a calorie deficit. With adequate protein and lifting, you can limit the amount of LBM that you lose while reducing weight.
^^^ Yes. Thank you.....I forgot that
(I didn't actually mention a deficit though)
But you do maintain much more with adequate protein and lifting than if you were doing cardio alone. (which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not)0 -
Some people quit cardio to try to put on a few pounds to compensate for their 'offseason building phase'. Even though a person is building 'lean' muscle, cardio is very good for the heart. A person is better off doing 3-4 HIIT sessions a week, then 5-6 days of week of steady state cardio.0
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The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
You're not building muscle when eating a calorie deficit. With adequate protein and lifting, you can limit the amount of LBM that you lose while reducing weight.
^^^ Yes. Thank you.....I forgot that (I didn't actually mention a deficit though)
But you do maintain much more with adequate protein and lifting than if you were doing cardio alone. (which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not)
You have to eat at a deficit to burn fat.0 -
Some people quit cardio to try to put on a few pounds to compensate for their 'offseason building phase'. Even though a person is building 'lean' muscle, cardio is very good for the heart. A person is better off doing 3-4 HIIT sessions a week, then 5-6 days of week of steady state cardio.
^^^^ this...cardio is great for the heart.0 -
Cheers - interesting stuff, but didn't have the right words to search for (interference, in this case.)Here are a couple old studies on interference
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17095931
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/71931340 -
The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
You're not building muscle when eating a calorie deficit. With adequate protein and lifting, you can limit the amount of LBM that you lose while reducing weight.
^^^ Yes. Thank you.....I forgot that (I didn't actually mention a deficit though)
But you do maintain much more with adequate protein and lifting than if you were doing cardio alone. (which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not)
You have to eat at a deficit to burn fat.
Yes you do.
I have no idea what you are interpreting what I am saying as otherwise.
Oh NM....just reread the original......gotcha. Whoops! :happy:0 -
If you hit the weights hard enough, you will know why this is it - also nutritionally, it depends on the person - if you enjoy eating a ton of food daily then adding the cardio at the end of lifting weights will accommodate this... all about those darn calories!0
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Because cardio is sweaty and nasty and exhausting and doesn't make you look better.
Doesn't lifting make you sweaty?? and exhausted????0 -
The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
You're not building muscle when eating a calorie deficit. With adequate protein and lifting, you can limit the amount of LBM that you lose while reducing weight.
^^^ Yes. Thank you.....I forgot that (I didn't actually mention a deficit though)
But you do maintain much more with adequate protein and lifting than if you were doing cardio alone. (which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not)
You have to eat at a deficit to burn fat.
Yes you do.
I have no idea what you are interpreting what I am saying as otherwise.
Oh NM.... "which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not"......gotcha. Whoops! :happy:
What you said was incorrect. It has nothing to do with interpretation.0 -
Because cardio is sweaty and nasty and exhausting and doesn't make you look better.
Doesn't lifting make you sweaty?? and exhausted????
It does if you do it right lol
but I think the main point is..."and doesn't make you look better."0 -
The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
You're not building muscle when eating a calorie deficit. With adequate protein and lifting, you can limit the amount of LBM that you lose while reducing weight.
^^^ Yes. Thank you.....I forgot that (I didn't actually mention a deficit though)
But you do maintain much more with adequate protein and lifting than if you were doing cardio alone. (which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not)
You have to eat at a deficit to burn fat.
Yes you do.
I have no idea what you are interpreting what I am saying as otherwise.
Oh NM.... "which if I'm not mistaken burns lean muscle whether in a deficit or not"......gotcha. Whoops! :happy:
What you said was incorrect. It has nothing to do with interpretation.
While you were writing this I already amended what I said to admit my mistake and agree with you. (see above) :flowerforyou:0 -
Obviously!!! . lol I'm all for weights before cardio!!!Because cardio is sweaty and nasty and exhausting and doesn't make you look better.
Doesn't lifting make you sweaty?? and exhausted????
It does if you do it right lol
but I think the main point is..."and doesn't make you look better."0 -
Ok I get not doing cardio just after, but if you only lift 3x a week, why not?
Again, this is going to be highly dependent on individual fitness goals. I personally do both...but I'm also not trying to build a bunch of mass and I'm not training for a power lifting event.
Those individuals who are trying to maximize muscular and neural adaptation need a lot of rest...doing a bunch of cardio on what would otherwise be "rest days" is going to interfere with that adaption and those gains. For example, y
ou will find that body builders and the like primarily do their cardio when they are in a cut...because they're trying to cut the fat...but when they're in a bulk, they're trying to bulk on muscle and a bunch of cardio is going to make that difficult process that much more difficult. Same for dedicated Power Lifters...they don't do much more than a little walking here and there...all of their efforts go to maximizing strength gains....you aren't doing that when you're doing a bunch of cardio on off days.
As a matter of general fitness, it's a good idea to do both and most people should have a fairly balanced routine...but again...just depends on fitness goals...as well as personal interests and such.0 -
I've read that by lifting (even if its only 3 days per week) not only burns more "calories" than standard cardio, but you continue to burn up to 48 hours after a lifting session. Most lifters feel that the burn and the results from training far exceed the monotony of cardio. To each his (or her) own.0
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I keep seeing people post that they cut cardio when they started lifting weights... Why? If you're going to eat more to compensate for the cardio calories, why does it matter if you cut it? I'd like to understand.. I'm talking about people who are trying to lose weight too. I would think being able to eat more to make up for the cardio would be nice.
You don't need cardio to lose weight. I've been cutting from 170lbs down to 157lbs, still cutting, without cardio. Personally, it's too damn boring.0 -
I cut cardio just because I usually only have an hour to an hour and a half to work out so if I do more weights, I have less time for cardio.0
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Sorry but there are a couple of horrible myths in there!The way I understand it....
Lifting burns fat and BUILDS lean muscle.
Cardio burns fat and BURNS lean muscle.
So....it ultimately depends on what you want to do.
I'm still new at it....but that is basically what I've picked up.
I want to be strong AND slim down.....make my body better overall....and I have found that lifting does a MUCH better job than cardio in that department.
The more muscle you have the higher your metabolism...burning fat all day. Cardio only burns while you are doing it (and at the expense of lean muscle which helps burn fat)
So I lift and do minimal cardio for endurance. I may run one or twice a week if the lifting hasn't worn me down. It is VERY important to let your body rest between lifting workouts.
Edited to add.....I have bad knees and have had trouble with them for a few years now. The docs have had a hard time figuring out what was wrong. All but one pretty much told me I was getting old and to get over it and live with it (ticked me off). The one...the last one.....told me that (what should have been obvious to me) I just needed to lose a little weight and strengthen the muscles supporting my knees.
Long story short.........cardio hurt my knees until I started lifting (squats and deadlifts). Lifting strengthened my legs and knees so now running doesn't hurt anymore.
"Cardio burns fat and BURNS lean muscle." Incorrect - you would need a totally inadequate diet for your body to fuel itself with lean muscle. Not something ordinary people need to worry themselves. Cardio burns glycogen and fat.
"The more muscle you have the higher your metabolism...burning fat all day. Cardio only burns while you are doing it (and at the expense of lean muscle which helps burn fat)"
True in part but the resting calorie burn from added muscle is tiny. Both cardio and strength training have an EPOC effect - strength training far higher, small effect for cardio (HIIT higher than low intensity but not terribly significant).
This however is spot on "So....it ultimately depends on what you want to do."
As I have both strength and CV fitness goals I do both and accept that there is a compromise.0
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