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Spoken like someone with no idea how the body works. Physical activity stressed the body and raises cortisol levels. Doesn't matter how much "fun" you have doing it. All this woman has done is string a bunch of "sciency" sounding words together to sell a book and make money.these threads always end up going absolutely no where....
I personally do not believe in sugar addiction.
Then get off here dude seriously if you have nothing positive to say just leave you are ridiculous. You're beliefs are you're beliefs and I respect that but honestly you look like an *kitten* if you have no advice just leave.
Dr. Peeke gives you advice and her method is to get your mind right eat right an exercise and to log everything you do and feel called mind, mouth, movement. So you would be wrong.
Why exercise? According to her, food eaten after will turn into belly fat cause you know cortisolDr. Peeke has found that the extra calories consumed by the cortisol appetite trigger are converted to fat deposits that gravitate to one area of the body — the waistline. Fat deposits around the abdomen are associated with illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, stroke and cancer. That expanding waistline isn't just a vanity issue; it's a threat to your life!
To avoid gaining toxic pounds, Dr. Peeke advises that we keep cortisol below the appetite-stimulating threshold in our bodies
ead the book not segments of it online the entire book is about getting your eating under control the first chapter she talked about how finding new fun activities to do made her not have sweet cravings and keep it under control.
you can post segments of the whatever but at the end of the day read the freaking book and you'll see the big picture she promotes watching your sugar intake not eliminating it but eliminating any processed foods at all. while finding enjoyable exercise so it doesn't cause your body stress but you have fun doing it.0 -
Do what every other successfully recovered addict I have known has done. Don't put the **** in your body. It worked for me too.
You never eat any sugar ever? How do you manage that? Even vegetables have some sugar in them. :ohwell:0 -
Ask your Dr to test you for insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome. If you got either of those, seek medical help, moderation aint gonna work for you nor the MFP advice will help you.0
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I started out by just cutting out the junk food entirely and eating a ton of fruits, vegetables and whole grains. I was always hungry and obsessed with planning out snacks and meals so I could eat constantly but not be over on my calories. Almost my whole day was spent focused on eating or watching the clock until I could eat again.
All of that constant hunger and compulsion to eat -- even if I wasn't really hungry -- changed when I switched to eating low carb because of a family history of heart disease, diabetes and cancer. My appetite and hunger had been so out of whack for so long I didn't even realize there was something physically wrong with me but within a matter of weeks my appetite was normal again. I get hungry, I eat until I'm full and that's it. I just stop eating because I'm not hungry any more and then don't eat again until I am -- the compulsion to eat and keep eating is gone.
It's going on two years now since I've been eating LCHF and as long as I keep the carbs/sugar severely restricted my appetite is normal. I will never go back to trying to "learn moderation" and eating sugar and sweets daily. I save those indulgences strictly for special occasions and then exert willpower to to fight the cravings and hunger that inevitably result and just get back to eating my normal low carb/sugar diet. It's not for everyone and it probably helps that I'm able (and happy) to cook all of my meals but it's the one thing that has worked for me that's sustainable. Calorie counting and working out enough to "afford" those calories wasn't. Best wishes getting a handle on this and figuring out what works for you (that you can live with) no matter what that is.
LCHF for Beginners
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Do what every other successfully recovered addict I have known has done. Don't put the **** in your body. It worked for me too.
You never eat any sugar ever? How do you manage that? Even vegetables have some sugar in them. :ohwell:
Sugar and food addicts want to equate their addiction to addiction to drugs and/or alcohol. Ok, fine. If your addiction to sugar or food is like my addiction to alcohol, then the same treatment should work for both. I had to quit using alcohol as a coping mechanisms to deal with all the troubles in my life.
And before the "but you have to eat or you will die" card is played, consider this.... Sugar is just one of the many sources of fuel for the body, just as alcohol is just one of the many sources of hydration for the body. I had to find different sources of hydration, just like a sugar addict needs to find alternate sources for fuel.0 -
Last year I gave up sweets and salty foods for Lent. I allowed myself what I considered natural sweets, such as fruit. This way I could have something sweet if I wanted it. I believe it's more of the added sugar that isn't healthy. I still eat things like unsweetened applesauce that I sweeten with Stevia, light & fit greek yogurt, fruit, etc. But gone is my constant craving for chocolate or other sweets, such as cookies, pies, etc. I can honestly say that stuff doesn't even tempt me anymore.
So I guess my advice is to give up "added sugar" and see how that goes for you. Good Luck!0 -
I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.0 -
I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
So can you eat fruit in moderation? What about polysaccharides? What about honey, do you binge on the whole thing?0 -
I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
Yeah, but have you had sex with a stranger for a box of Twinkies?0 -
these threads always end up going absolutely no where....
I personally do not believe in sugar addiction.
And because you don't believe, no one else is allowed to either?0 -
No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.0 -
Do what every other successfully recovered addict I have known has done. Don't put the **** in your body. It worked for me too.
You never eat any sugar ever? How do you manage that? Even vegetables have some sugar in them. :ohwell:
Sugar and food addicts want to equate their addiction to addiction to drugs and/or alcohol. Ok, fine. If your addiction to sugar or food is like my addiction to alcohol, then the same treatment should work for both. I had to quit using alcohol as a coping mechanisms to deal with all the troubles in my life.
And before the "but you have to eat or you will die" card is played, consider this.... Sugar is just one of the many sources of fuel for the body, just as alcohol is just one of the many sources of hydration for the body. I had to find different sources of hydration, just like a sugar addict needs to find alternate sources for fuel.
I think you missed the point of her post. She and I both understood your first statement to mean "don't put sugar in your body if you're addicted to sugar." Well, that's really hard to do since there's sugar in almost everything. But, it seems that you're on the same page. Congrats on you kicking alcohol addiction to the curb. :flowerforyou:0 -
Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.these threads always end up going absolutely no where....
I personally do not believe in sugar addiction.
And because you don't believe, no one else is allowed to either?0 -
Your logic is not welcomed here
No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.0 -
cravings for sweet things can mean you are not getting enough sleep or not sleeping deep enough.
do you get your 8+ hours everynight?0 -
these threads always end up going absolutely no where....
I personally do not believe in sugar addiction.
And because you don't believe, no one else is allowed to either?
I don't think anyone should be allowed to believe in an sugar addiction except when the sugar is from fruit, honey, dairy, etc.0 -
No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.
Also, I can't explain the science behind it, but I think it's widely known around here that protein and fat give you a "full" sensation much better than a meal of carbohydrates.0 -
Your logic is not welcomed here
No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.
Crap, you're right, sorry. I meant to say this:
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No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.
^^This. Learn how your body works when you eat that cereal before calling it an "addiction".0 -
I do not keep anything sugary or salty a la junk food in my house. I cannot. I will eat it. One serving bags? Nope, I will eat every single on of those bags. The only thing that works for me is to NOT keep them in the house. I know this may not be the best strategy for everyone, but it works for me. I have absolutely no self control when it comes to stuff junk food. So it is best to just cut off the supply completely.
Why not try to teach yourself some self-control? That's what it's going to take in the long run. You can't make everything out of sight, out of mind.
This is my form of self control, not keeping it in the house. I practice self control every time I go to the grocery store and not buy these things. You know how hard that is? If I can get out of the store without buying a bag of Cheetos or the half/off Valentines candy, then I WIN.
The form of self control you are talking about is one that does not work for me as I am indeed an out-of-sight-out-of-mind type of person. I know what works for me and I am passing the knowledge on the OP. So spare me your judgment.0 -
No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.
Also, I can't explain the science behind it, but I think it's widely known around here that protein and fat give you a "full" sensation much better than a meal of carbohydrates.
That's subjective. In general, protein is more satiating, but not always. Besides, my explanation had nothing to do with satiety, I was explaining why the human body craves sugar soon after eating a ridiculous amount of fast absorbing sugars.0 -
See my issue right now is that my boyfriend keeps this stuff in the house and has not interest eating healthy so I cant keep it out but I will have to try the gum thing!
This, to me, is the beginning on an excuse. Your boyfriend isn't interested in eating healthy so you can't keep it out of the house, which means you can't control yourself because it's always around.
My other statements still stand however. If you HONESTLY think you're addicted (like alcoholic style), then you should seek professional help. A post on MFP isn't going to help you overcome your addiction. However, if its actually a willpower issue, then you came to the right place to seek advice.
I'm curious though, do you binge like that with friends, family, every time you go out to eat, or is it only when you're alone?
not an excuse it is completely my fault but a lady suggested not putting those things in my house... I am not going to make my boyfriend, friends or family diet bc I am that's all that I said.
Fair enough. I don't think its unfair to ask your boyfriend to give up certain foods for you that may be your trigger foods. It's not making him diet... it's asking him to either hide it from you or not bring it in the house while your body adjusts to no processed foods/processed sugars.
My last question still stands though, because its a legitimate question. Do you binge like that with friends, family, every time you go out to eat, or is it only when you're alone? I ask this because I feel its very telling of your 'addiction'. If you only binge while alone, it means that its most likely emotional eating and there's more there than just "I want to eat food.", which is honestly almost always the case. It also shows that you CAN control yourself while eating those items. However, if you binge even when out in public, amongst friends and/or family, it shows that something else entirely is going on.0 -
Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.these threads always end up going absolutely no where....
I personally do not believe in sugar addiction.
And because you don't believe, no one else is allowed to either?
Science isn't a person and can't say anything. If there is conclusive scientific proof that food can't be addictive, I'd certainly like to see it.0 -
No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.
I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.
Also, I can't explain the science behind it, but I think it's widely known around here that protein and fat give you a "full" sensation much better than a meal of carbohydrates.
That's subjective. In general, protein is more satiating, but not always. Besides, my explanation had nothing to do with satiety, I was explaining why the human body craves sugar soon after eating a ridiculous amount of fast absorbing sugars.
Understood. I just thought I'd throw it out there since I see that advice given on here a lot in regards to satiety. I find it to be true for myself. Hey, at least I said I didn't know if there was science behind it! :drinker:0 -
I believe that I have a food addiction the only thing I crave mostly is sweets but I find myself mindlessly eating... I wont even realize that I am. Its like once I start I cant stop.
I want to hear from fellow/former food addicts
Any advice?
What helped you?
I am not a huge contributor to these forums for the reason that you have discovered here - people will jump on you and try to prove your feelings or opinions "wrong". In reality, there's more more than one way to skin a cat - or something. I don't think most people mean to come out and say that "calories in/calories out" is wrong but the minute you bring up sugar or some type of food being "bad" or what not everyone jumps on you. I think its very admirable that some people have been able to teach themselves self control and are now qualifed to to tell everyone else how to live... which begs the questions of why they need a site like this if they have their lives so together?
To address you questions, I do believe in food addiction in the sense that products with refined sugars tend to make me crave more and lead to overeating which causes me to consume more calories than I burn. Removing said foods reduce my cravings and make it much easier to stay within my goals. I had lost 100 lbs - mainly by cutting out soda and other refined sugars and other refined carbs. Notice that I am not lumping fruits and veggies in with that because those foods do not have the same effect on me as a chocolate chip cookie, even if they do techincally contain or turn to sugar. As soon as I tried to add certain things back into my diet in "moderation" I lost control again and have regained 60 pounds. (Supid, weak, little me for having no self control. If only I could be as good and strong as some of the memebers on this forum!)
I have PCOS with insulin resistance and high cortisol levels. My endocrinologist reccommends cutting out refined sugars and exercising "moderately" as oppsed to strenuously (due to the cortisol levels - at least until they are brought down). I feel he is probably slightly more qualifed than most of the people on this forum. Of course, they are welcome to chime in and let us know what medical school they graduated from.
I think if you want specifc help or guidance to treat or understand "food addiction" you would be better served to seek out a group such as Overeaters Anon, Food Addicts Anon, or something similar. Sure, maybe it doesn't exist with scientific proof, and maybe people on this forum don't "believe in it", but really who cares? The best diet or lifestyle changes are the one that you can live with and that work for you. If having a slice of cake sets you off on a sugar bender and derails your progress then avoid cake. It doesn't mean the cake is evil or bad, it means for you its not a good thing. I truly don't understand why some people on here cannot make that connection. They really need to learn that people come here for encouragement and help not to be lectured and put down under the guise of being helpful. It's not helpful - it's annoying and makes people not want to comment or come back.
I believe everyone's body reacts differently. I belive that some people have faster metabolisms than others which I think is evident in natural thin people who eat like toxic waste dumbs and people who can't lose weight despite eating 1400 calorie diet, or what have you. Sure, it all comes down to burning more than we take it, but everyone's threshhold may not be the same. Some people can have just one cookie and walk away, and some people will obsess about said cookie until they have another. Who knows why, who cares why...it just is.0 -
Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.
And that science would be???????0 -
Yeah, but have you had sex with a stranger for a box of Twinkies?
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I do not keep anything sugary or salty a la junk food in my house. I cannot. I will eat it. One serving bags? Nope, I will eat every single on of those bags. The only thing that works for me is to NOT keep them in the house. I know this may not be the best strategy for everyone, but it works for me. I have absolutely no self control when it comes to stuff junk food. So it is best to just cut off the supply completely.
Why not try to teach yourself some self-control? That's what it's going to take in the long run. You can't make everything out of sight, out of mind.
This is my form of self control, not keeping it in the house. I practice self control every time I go to the grocery store and not buy these things. You know how hard that is? If I can get out of the store without buying a bag of Cheetos or the half/off Valentines candy, then I WIN.
The form of self control you are talking about is one that does not work for me as I am indeed an out-of-sight-out-of-mind type of person. I know what works for me and I am passing the knowledge on the OP. So spare me your judgment.
Who's judging? Geez, I guess you can't say anything that might question a post on here in regards to advice. But anyway, it sounds like you are exercising self-control by not buying it in the first place. :ohwell:0 -
That science would be medical science. If food addiction was real, it would be in the new DSM. It isn't, because they couldn't find evidence that it actually exists.Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.
And that science would be???????0 -
Yeah, but have you had sex with a stranger for a box of Twinkies?
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