Food addiction-Sugar

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  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
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    You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

    This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

    I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

    I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

    and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

    I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

    If you want success then lose the excuses
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
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    People who correct people with facts and science are now considered miserable..............thats a new one
  • Leonidas_meets_Spartacus
    Leonidas_meets_Spartacus Posts: 6,198 Member
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    I do not keep anything sugary or salty a la junk food in my house. I cannot. I will eat it. One serving bags? Nope, I will eat every single on of those bags. The only thing that works for me is to NOT keep them in the house. I know this may not be the best strategy for everyone, but it works for me. I have absolutely no self control when it comes to stuff junk food. So it is best to just cut off the supply completely.

    Why not try to teach yourself some self-control? That's what it's going to take in the long run. You can't make everything out of sight, out of mind.

    Its hard when some one has metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance. I was one of those tough guys with self control, until I developed insulin resistance. Human body is much more complicated than self control, your hormones play a bigger role.

    I believe you, but I hardly think most of the "I'm a sugar addict, somebody help me!" threads originate from OPs that have medical issues. It's an assumption on my part, but I think it's a safe one.

    Its not really a medical issue, its more hormonal issue. My blood glucose levels are perfectly normal, but the insulin spikes are not. My doctor kept telling me everything was ok, until I luckily stumbled up on the cause after getting a second opinion. I give the benefit of doubt to every one, because their doctor might not be aware of the hormonal changes.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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    I'm also addicted to the penis

    You should try the battery operated variety! It's just as good and a lot healthier!
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
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    I do not keep anything sugary or salty a la junk food in my house. I cannot. I will eat it. One serving bags? Nope, I will eat every single on of those bags. The only thing that works for me is to NOT keep them in the house. I know this may not be the best strategy for everyone, but it works for me. I have absolutely no self control when it comes to stuff junk food. So it is best to just cut off the supply completely.

    Why not try to teach yourself some self-control? That's what it's going to take in the long run. You can't make everything out of sight, out of mind.

    This is my form of self control, not keeping it in the house. I practice self control every time I go to the grocery store and not buy these things. You know how hard that is? If I can get out of the store without buying a bag of Cheetos or the half/off Valentines candy, then I WIN.

    The form of self control you are talking about is one that does not work for me as I am indeed an out-of-sight-out-of-mind type of person. I know what works for me and I am passing the knowledge on the OP. So spare me your judgment.

    Who's judging? Geez, I guess you can't say anything that might question a post on here in regards to advice. But anyway, it sounds like you are exercising self-control by not buying it in the first place. :ohwell:

    Maybe you should go back and read your posts. You come off as pretty judgmental as opposed to someone trying to provide advice.

    Well, if making an informed decision based on information at hand makes me judgemental, then I guess that's me. I only advise what myself and other successful people on MFP have done to get where they are. Sure, there will always be "trigger foods." I have those. Lots of people have those. I like banana pudding a lot more than bananas, but that doesn't mean I'm addicted to refined sugar. It just means that banana pudding tastes better to me than bananas do.

    My point in the original response was that you can't avoid every situation in which sugar will be presented to you. And the OP will have to learn to exercise some self-control beyond what others will need to, since she is living with someone who is not dieting. Does that mean I'm judging? Well, if so, then so be it.
  • somefitsomefat
    somefitsomefat Posts: 445 Member
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    cravings for sweet things can mean you are not getting enough sleep or not sleeping deep enough.
    do you get your 8+ hours everynight?

    Who the hell sleeps that much? You wont get that time back. 8 hour sleep cycles were promoted to help factory shift work in the early 20th century.

    I'll bite. How much do you sleep? Anything below 6 for me makes me feel like crap and have a dull headache. Yes time is limited but I don't want to feel like crap while I'm here. Also sleeps as good as any other activity. I don't have THAT much to do that I need to stay up super late or get up super early. I like a mellow medium.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.

    And that science would be???????

    SCIENCE is a funny thing. There are lots of things that couldn't be proven...until they were. There's a lot about the brain and human genetics that aren't yet understood. A lot of people think addiction, in general, is not a disease. I believe it is. I believe there are actual scientists who believe it is. God help us, there might even be scientists that do think FOOD addiction is real! I am not a scientist, and I gather, neither are you. However, I'm sure if you wanted to take some time and research you could find some who do hypothesize about food addiction. A quick google search of "science of food addiction" will lead to several articles that reference scientifc studies of it. For what it's worth, its apparently something that some in the academic/scientific community feel is worthwhile to look into. Until something can be proven false, it does not mean that it cannot be true.

    While there are some anecdotes that have circulated on MFP that make me think food addiction can be real, I don't think it's possible to be addicted to sugar in cake and not addicted to sugar in fruit.

    You don't think it is. Meaning you really don't know.

    Well, let's go back to the whole "you can't prove a negative" post someone made to you earlier.

    So, Mythbusters is nothing but LIES?? *mind blown*
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    Nope, but because SCIENCE says that there's no such thing as food addiction, then there's no such thing as food addiction. People are free to have their own opinions, but people can't have their own facts.

    And that science would be???????

    SCIENCE is a funny thing. There are lots of things that couldn't be proven...until they were. There's a lot about the brain and human genetics that aren't yet understood. A lot of people think addiction, in general, is not a disease. I believe it is. I believe there are actual scientists who believe it is. God help us, there might even be scientists that do think FOOD addiction is real! I am not a scientist, and I gather, neither are you. However, I'm sure if you wanted to take some time and research you could find some who do hypothesize about food addiction. A quick google search of "science of food addiction" will lead to several articles that reference scientifc studies of it. For what it's worth, its apparently something that some in the academic/scientific community feel is worthwhile to look into. Until something can be proven false, it does not mean that it cannot be true.

    While there are some anecdotes that have circulated on MFP that make me think food addiction can be real, I don't think it's possible to be addicted to sugar in cake and not addicted to sugar in fruit.

    What those anecdotes have told me, is that there are some people who over eat so compulsively, that they put their lives in danger. Getting to the root of what causes that compulsion enables them to take back control. But it doesn't make food an addictive substance. They are simply using it as a coping mechanism, as some folks use alcohol, etc.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    cravings for sweet things can mean you are not getting enough sleep or not sleeping deep enough.
    do you get your 8+ hours everynight?

    Who the hell sleeps that much? You wont get that time back. 8 hour sleep cycles were promoted to help factory shift work in the early 20th century.

    Yeah. Most people need more sleep than that. I do best if I get 9 hours.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    I think the whole "sugar addiction" thing is a bunch of baloney. They used to vilify fat, now it's sugar. People love having something to blame. The best advice I can give you is to just not have trigger foods in the house if you are prone to bingeing. But don't eliminate them completely or you'll go nuts. There's no reason to be super restrictive if you're staying under your calorie limit.

    I can eat a whole box of sugary cereal and not feel full. Then search the house mindlessly for more sugar. I eat some fat, and I feel full, and stop. I myself am addicted to sugar.
    No. You binge on fast absorbing sugars, your blood sugar spikes, your pancreas overcompensates, your blood sugar crashes due to the overcompensation, and your brain screams for sugar in an attempt to correct things.

    That's not "addiction." That's called an "unbalanced diet," which leads to health problems.

    Also, I can't explain the science behind it, but I think it's widely known around here that protein and fat give you a "full" sensation much better than a meal of carbohydrates.

    That's subjective. In general, protein is more satiating, but not always. Besides, my explanation had nothing to do with satiety, I was explaining why the human body craves sugar soon after eating a ridiculous amount of fast absorbing sugars.
    Pretty sure I am addicted to , sorry, TABLE SUGAR =) But this is me. Science may or may not back it up or whatever nonsense, but after living in my body for the past 26 years I know that I am PHYSICALLY addicted to TABLE SUGAR. I don't need a book, scientific journal, nor MFP member to prove to me otherwise.

    :noway:
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

    This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

    I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

    I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

    and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

    I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

    so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....
  • magick099
    magick099 Posts: 7 Member
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    I leave enough calorie room at the end of the day, twice a week for something sweet. Like the tiny cups of Haugen daz (spelling) ice cream. I won't buy big containers. The tiny ones are about 1/4 cup. It's enough to satisfy with out feeling guilty. You can also buy ice cream made from almond or coconut milk.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    another sugar thread goes down in flames....

    bring on the cat gifs...
  • czardastx
    czardastx Posts: 127 Member
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    I think that anything that can trigger the pleasure receptors / center in your brain can have the potential to be abused. It can be anything from foods, exercises, sex, shopping...the list could be endless. The human mind is a very mysterious organ, and to try to say that all of it's characteristics are know is folly and the boasting of someone who is just trying to improve their image in their circle of peers.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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    another sugar thread goes down in flames....

    bring on the cat gifs...
    All ya had to do was ask!
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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    cravings for sweet things can mean you are not getting enough sleep or not sleeping deep enough.
    do you get your 8+ hours everynight?

    Who the hell sleeps that much? You wont get that time back. 8 hour sleep cycles were promoted to help factory shift work in the early 20th century.

    Yeah. Most people need more sleep than that. I do best if I get 9 hours.

    :noway:

    That's over a third of your life...I get 5-6 a night. To each their own I guess :drinker:
  • Inspiring_Sara
    Inspiring_Sara Posts: 54 Member
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    You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

    This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

    I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

    I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

    and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

    I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

    so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....

    Not at all my question was not DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING AS FOOD/SUGAR ADDICTION
    it was for tips to stop impulses, if you don't believe in that it exist how are you going to give me tips on how to cope? you cant.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    another sugar thread goes down in flames....

    bring on the cat gifs...

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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

    This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

    I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

    I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

    and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

    I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

    so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....

    Not at all my question was not DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING AS FOOD/SUGAR ADDICTION
    it was for tips to stop impulses, if you don't believe in that it exist how are you going to give me tips on how to cope? you cant.

    Self control and will power.

    /thread
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
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    You know what you are right I should just do a group but excuse me for not knowing the site very well (i didnt know there were groups) and also for the fact that i thought this was a supportive site but from comments on here and my profile I see that making a forum is nothing but an issue and people get judgmental pretty quick.

    This forum has become so unwelcoming I hope that other people who post don't get such an negative response ESPECIALLY their first few times.

    I'm done with the thread I'm done with your comments. thank you for those SUPPORTIVE ones that gave advice like the whole point of a freaking forum is. To the other I'm sorry you are still so miserable with yourself that this is what your life has come to I would hate to see your facebook, twitter, instagram, or any other social site. i respect your opinion so respect mine and just go away please.

    I really wish that there was a delete button for the darn forum.

    and a HUGE thank you to anybody who reached out to me with advice in a PM, Means a lot!

    I'm happy for anybody success but please people don't forget how hard it was to get started and show a little support instead of knocking somebody when they are down...

    so basically everyone who agreed with you is "supportive" and anyone that disagreed was an "a-hole"....

    Not at all my question was not DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING AS FOOD/SUGAR ADDICTION
    it was for tips to stop impulses, if you don't believe in that it exist how are you going to give me tips on how to cope? you cant.

    Stating that there is no such thing as sugar addiction is not the same as saying that some people do not have impulse control problems.