IIFYM Not a diet?

tennisdude2004

IIFYM is "eat whatever you want..... as long as it fits your nutrient goals."

That's the point. It's not a diet. It's a nutrient partitioning strategy around which you create your own diet. The power of IIFYM is that it lets you hit those nutrient goals with any food you see fit. Almost any particular diet can be adapted to IIFYM or followed with IIFYM strategies.

You are restricting your calorie in-take therefore it's a diet.

A very good one that works for a lot of people - but don't delude yourself it's a diet.

uhm..... wut?

You can't bulk or eat above maintenance with the same principles?

If you want, sure you can.

But IIFYM markets itself as a fat loss plan.

Ergo - It's a diet - hey there's nothing wrong with something being a diet (it's not a bad thing).

diet.defining the way that I eat: there for IIFYM is a diet.

diet- not defined as " a way to lose weight" - because I use IIFYM for bulking- so- your argument is null and void.

PS.

"IF IT FITS IT FITS>>> AND IT FITS"



POCKET MUFFIN!!!!!

those of you who know- you know.

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

Also I was getting my definition from the Oxford dictionary - 'Restrict oneself to small amounts or special kinds of food in order to lose weight:' -sorry I know it can be a bit limiting

jonnythan

Yes please I wish to be enlightened - please direct me to the source!

There is no one source. IIFYM does not come from IIFYM.com any more than organic farming comes from organic.org. It's a grassroots movement. It's a philosophy that has grown organically from the cumulative practices and research of many, many people over the years.

So consider yourself educated: IIFYM is not a diet, and it is not about restricting calories. It is about setting nutrient goals particular to your goals, whether that is weight loss, weight maintenance, or weight gain.

SugaryLynx

High five to all those maintaining and for me, bulking on the principles of iifym. Totally unrelated to the website. It's an eating philosophy.

gypsy_spirit

I've never heard anyone say that IIFYM is a free pass to eat whatever you want. Didn't have time to watch the video.

I read that pretty much all the time on MFP. I've even seen posts of people doing exclusively McDonald's food to prove a point on IIFYM.

Yes, there are always people who distort things to make them fit what they want to do. Those who truly follow IIFYM, know that how you meet your protein, fat and carb goals is up to you. I guess you could meet your macros eating only at McDonald's - but to me, that would get old.

jonnythan

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Yes please I wish to be enlightened - please direct me to the source!

There is no one source. IIFYM does not come from IIFYM.com any more than organic farming comes from organic.org. It's a grassroots movement. It's a philosophy that has grown organically from the cumulative practices and research of many, many people over the years.

So consider yourself educated: IIFYM is not a diet, and it is not about restricting calories. It is about setting nutrient goals particular to your goals, whether that is weight loss, weight maintenance, or weight gain.

Exactly. I have started practing IIFYM while eating the way I do to ensure I am hitting my fat and protein requirements because I am often falling short.

Hell, eating this way is even helping me ensure I am getting all of the micro-nutrients I need and is helping me in the way of seeking out more variety with my fruits and vegetables because I generally eat the same foods over and over because it simplifies my life.

tennisdude2004

Yes please I wish to be enlightened - please direct me to the source!

There is no one source. IIFYM does not come from IIFYM.com any more than organic farming comes from organic.org. It's a grassroots movement. It's a philosophy that has grown organically from the cumulative practices and research of many, many people over the years.

So consider yourself educated: IIFYM is not a diet, and it is not about restricting calories. It is about setting nutrient goals particular to your goals, whether that is weight loss, weight maintenance, or weight gain.

Someone must have come up with the buzz word IIFYM and term 'If It Fits Your Macros' - surely it didn't just happen.

ItsCasey

IIFYM is "eat whatever you want..... as long as it fits your nutrient goals."

That's the point. It's not a diet. It's a nutrient partitioning strategy around which you create your own diet. The power of IIFYM is that it lets you hit those nutrient goals with any food you see fit. Almost any particular diet can be adapted to IIFYM or followed with IIFYM strategies.

You are restricting your calorie in-take therefore it's a diet.

A very good one that works for a lot of people - but don't delude yourself it's a diet.

uhm..... wut?

You can't bulk or eat above maintenance with the same principles?

If you want, sure you can.

But IIFYM markets itself as a fat loss plan.

Ergo - It's a diet - hey there's nothing wrong with something being a diet (it's not a bad thing).

Is IIFYM a company now? Is someone bottling it and selling it for fat loss? Unless I missed the memo, you should stop personifying what you allege is a diet.

Think about what IIFYM stands for. If it fits your macros. If WHAT fits your macros? The food you eat. If the food you eat fits your macros for WHAT? Could this be a strategy that lends itself to achieving a variety of goals? Now is where the thinking really gets serious. Try it.

IronPlayground

Yes please I wish to be enlightened - please direct me to the source!

There is no one source. IIFYM does not come from IIFYM.com any more than organic farming comes from organic.org. It's a grassroots movement. It's a philosophy that has grown organically from the cumulative practices and research of many, many people over the years.

So consider yourself educated: IIFYM is not a diet, and it is not about restricting calories. It is about setting nutrient goals particular to your goals, whether that is weight loss, weight maintenance, or weight gain.

Someone must have come up with the buzz word IIFYM and term 'If It Fits Your Macros' - surely it didn't just happen.

If you would've watched the video, you'd have the answer to that question.

tennisdude2004

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

Nope typed this before I read your response. Although your response did not answer my question.:grumble:

kelly_e_montana

I've never heard anyone say that IIFYM is a free pass to eat whatever you want. Didn't have time to watch the video.

I read that pretty much all the time on MFP. I've even seen posts of people doing exclusively McDonald's food to prove a point on IIFYM.

Done this to prove a point

you feel like chit because you don't get in all the nutrients and fiber your body needs . but I still lost weight on a calorie deficit eating mcdonalds every day for 10 days . atleast a double quarter pounder with cheese +- 1000cals of mcdonalds food . sometimes 1800cals all depends

Point is , calorie deficit = weight loss
Ignoring micro nutrients and fiber will make you feel like death over time

Totally agree. When I ignore micronutrients, I feel like dog poo. I have had a day that I though was pure rubbish, entered it in, and been like "oh wow, that fits my macros." I would still lose weight, but I didn't feel well.

SezxyStef

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

Hornsby

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

I'm currently "restricting" to about 3200 per day. Feels kinda crazy struggling at 9pm at night trying to find something else to hit my numbers for the day even though I don't feel like eating at all. It's very restricting.

UsedToBeHusky

If you overshoot your macros, you automatically go over on your calories, which tells the body to store fat.

Uh... no... not quite.

da_bears10089

IIFYM is "eat whatever you want..... as long as it fits your nutrient goals."

That's the point. It's not a diet. It's a nutrient partitioning strategy around which you create your own diet. The power of IIFYM is that it lets you hit those nutrient goals with any food you see fit. Almost any particular diet can be adapted to IIFYM or followed with IIFYM strategies.

You are restricting your calorie in-take therefore it's a diet.

A very good one that works for a lot of people - but don't delude yourself it's a diet.

uhm..... wut?

You can't bulk or eat above maintenance with the same principles?

If you want, sure you can.

But IIFYM markets itself as a fat loss plan.

Ergo - It's a diet - hey there's nothing wrong with something being a diet (it's not a bad thing).

diet.defining the way that I eat: there for IIFYM is a diet.

diet- not defined as " a way to lose weight" - because I use IIFYM for bulking- so- your argument is null and void.

PS.

"IF IT FITS IT FITS>>> AND IT FITS"



POCKET MUFFIN!!!!!

those of you who know- you know.

best reference EVER

tennisdude2004

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

IronPlayground

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

For the second time, watch the damn video to get the answer to this.

csuhar

I've never heard anyone say that IIFYM is a free pass to eat whatever you want. Didn't have time to watch the video.

I read that pretty much all the time on MFP. I've even seen posts of people doing exclusively McDonald's food to prove a point on IIFYM.

Done this to prove a point

you feel like chit because you don't get in all the nutrients and fiber your body needs . but I still lost weight on a calorie deficit eating mcdonalds every day for 10 days . atleast a double quarter pounder with cheese +- 1000cals of mcdonalds food . sometimes 1800cals all depends

Point is , calorie deficit = weight loss
Ignoring micro nutrients and fiber will make you feel like death over time

That's a lesson that definitely comes along at some point, and I'd say it's where the "discipline" of the approach is. Instead of being told you can't have that double quarter pounder or (in my case) those jelly beans, you become more careful and conscious about when you eat them because you learn that not meeting your needs will leave you feeling tired, hungrier, or like garbage at the end of the day.

UsedToBeHusky

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

I could be completely wrong, but I think it was Alan Aragon.

LolBroScience

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

Third time is perhaps a charm... watch the video bonehead.

tennisdude2004

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

Third time is perhaps a charm... watch the video bonehead.

I haven't got time for that numbnuts.

Just a name and date will suffice

IronPlayground

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

I could be completely wrong, but I think it was Alan Aragon.

No, it was a guy by the name of Erick Stevens on bodybuilding.com forums. He used it as an answer to people constantly asking if they can eat certain foods.

_John_

IIFYM rundown...

1. What is my ultimate goal with my overall diet?

2. What and how much do I need from macro and micronutrients?

3. What foods have what I need?

4. Overall, did I eat everything I needed?

5. Even though x or y food is not ideal, how can I make it work into my overall diet?

6. I need fat and some carbs, I can eat that piece of cheesecake.

Snow3y

That there is Omar in the video He knows what he's talking about... I'd take his word over anyone's here on the forums.. But that is correct, IIFYM is NOT a diet, it's a way of life, a lifestyle. So people can eat whatever they want (healthy is preferred) as long as they're meeting their macro and micro goals.

tennisdude2004

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

I could be completely wrong, but I think it was Alan Aragon.

Thanks Dude.

tennisdude2004

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

I could be completely wrong, but I think it was Alan Aragon.

No, it was a guy by the name of Erick Stevens on bodybuilding.com forums. He used it as an answer to people constantly asking if they can eat certain foods.

Cheers.

navyrigger46

I've never heard anyone say that IIFYM is a free pass to eat whatever you want. Didn't have time to watch the video.

^^^This^^^ It's IIFYM, not "EWYW" IIFYM means hitting your macro targets with 80% give or take quality, lean sources, and then filling in as necessary without forcing yourself to avoid so called "un-clean" foods (whatever that means.)

Rigger

tedrickp

IIFYM = IIFYM
IIFYM =!= eat whatever you want

And that interview is awful.

How so? It's two of the most honest, intelligent people in the fitness community - period - breaking down exactly why IIFYM isn't a diet and the history around it.

What point would you argue with?

EDIT: Unless you mean Omars echo - then yes that is worst LOL

EvgeniZyntx

Fair enough - we've arrived at the same conclusion via different paths - IIFYM = diet.

For one brief moment, I thought you were just ignorant of what IIFYM was, and I took the opportunity to tell you.

Now I understand that you have no interest in learning and that your primary goal is simply to fight against something you don't like.

x1million.

@tennisdude When I hit maintenance in June and still Follow IIFYM...I will not be restricting calories...it's not about weight loss.

That's fair enough and well done for hitting maintenance.

I'm not be purposefully snarky, this time. I believe IIFYM to be a diet (yes for weight loss, maintenance or bulking - but diet none the less.

That's not a bad thing - I know Jonny (I've dropped the H) was getting a bit upset.

I am not even saying IIFYM doesn't work I know it does and people have huge success with it.

What I am trying to establish is where did it all start. I do not believe that one day everyone just new the term If It Fits Your Macros. Someone came up with the concept and found the science that supports the philosophy.

I'm just looking for the who and when - then I can understand more about it - again not to discredit it because I have already said I fully believe it works and have no issues with it.

So if anyone has the answer - would be really grateful if they could post it.

It's in the frickin video

JoRocka

IIFYM is "eat whatever you want..... as long as it fits your nutrient goals."

That's the point. It's not a diet. It's a nutrient partitioning strategy around which you create your own diet. The power of IIFYM is that it lets you hit those nutrient goals with any food you see fit. Almost any particular diet can be adapted to IIFYM or followed with IIFYM strategies.

You are restricting your calorie in-take therefore it's a diet.

A very good one that works for a lot of people - but don't delude yourself it's a diet.

uhm..... wut?

You can't bulk or eat above maintenance with the same principles?

If you want, sure you can.

But IIFYM markets itself as a fat loss plan.

Ergo - It's a diet - hey there's nothing wrong with something being a diet (it's not a bad thing).

diet.defining the way that I eat: there for IIFYM is a diet.

diet- not defined as " a way to lose weight" - because I use IIFYM for bulking- so- your argument is null and void.

PS.

"IF IT FITS IT FITS>>> AND IT FITS"



POCKET MUFFIN!!!!!

those of you who know- you know.

best reference EVER

thank you.


as far as diet- diet is like the word weather.

weather just describes what's happening in the atmonsphere- it is neither good nor bad- it just is what it is..

But people say "oh we are going to be having some weather today" when they mean "bad weather"

diet is the same thing. Diet is a term to describe what you eat- my diet consists of chicken, steak veggies, eggs, bacon and currently thin mints. It is not an action and in action nor does it describe if I"m bulking cutting or anything else. It's just a word to describe my food.

vs I'm GOING on a diet and I'm going to be eating chicken and veggies and raspberry ketones and it's a THING I'm doing.
They are two totally different things.