I abandoned 1200 calories per day, and so should you
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I think its best to consider what you eat vs the calories... if you ate 1200 of vegetables and lean meat, you would lose weight... if you ate 1200 calories of carbs, sugars, processed foods, artificial sweeteners etc, you will maintain or even gain0
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No.I think its best to consider what you eat vs the calories... if you ate 1200 of vegetables and lean meat, you would lose weight... if you ate 1200 calories of carbs, sugars, processed foods, artificial sweeteners etc, you will maintain or even gain0 -
Yeah, sadly that isn't true for everyone. If your BMR is low, your daily calorie allowance will also be low. And the smaller you are, the lower your BMR. I have a light weight due to musculoskeletal anomalies (long, thin bones and underdeveloped muscles by genetic defect), but 30% body fat. Despite appearing thin, I still carry a lot of body fat. I have my goal set to lose 0.5 lbs per week, and I'm allowed a whopping 1270 cal/day according to MFP guidelines. I've been dieting and exercising for 3.5 weeks and I've lost 4 lbs so far. I'm going to eat more just so I don't lose weight so fast that I lose muscle. It's trial and error for me. I imagine most people have to play around with numbers to find what works for them, and I'm glad you found something that works for you! :flowerforyou:
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Thanks for this post, I ve just started using myfitnesspal for a day. I was surprised when they calculated that I should eat 1200 calories a day. On another calorie counter planner website they calculated that I should eat 1800 calories a day to lose 2 pounds a week. I was hungry during the day while sticking to 1200 calories.
The average height for women in the US and UK for example is around 5'3 - 5'4. If you are perhaps of average height then 1200 calories might be enough for you. But isn't it a quite generally excepted fact that the bigger you are the more calories you need, and use? I am also 5'7 which is more on the taller side and thus I dont think 1200 calories is enough.0 -
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I love reading about how people realized 1200 calories per day is ridiculous and is not the way to set yourself up for long-term success.
What I hate is when people comment on these threads with, "Well it works for me!" Of course it works - you're depriving your body of the calories it needs, so you're likely to lose weight. HOWEVER, if you CAN eat more and still lose, why the hell wouldn't you?
SO MUCH THIS ^^^^
why do people put so much effort into defending eating of 1200 calories a day versus still losing weight while eating more? I don't get it. What's so groundbreakingly amazing about eating 1200 calories a day that people on this forum seem willing to defend it with all the vehemence of a religious fundamentalist defending their religion?0 -
First of all, there's no two ways around it: if you eat less calories than you burn, you WILL lose weight. It's impossible that the original poster couldn't lose a single pound on 1200 calories per day. It's against the laws of thermodynamics.
That being said, the lower caloric intake isn't a magic bullet. If you're starving yourself on 1200 calories a day, then there's a fundamental problem: you're not doing something sustainable. You'll quit. Or worse, you'll reach your goal, and your diet will be so impossible to maintain that you'll just go back to your old eating habits and gain the weight back.
There are a few ways to play with your target caloric intake to make it sustainable:
1. Raise it closer to your BMR. This means you'll lose weight slower, but remember: this is a marathon, not a sprint! It's MUCH better to lose, say, 1 lb per week while eating in a way you enjoy, than starve yourself to reach your goals. Skipping meals is a SURE sign you're going at it too hard.
2. Change your food, and make sure to include healthy fats and protein. Fat and protein help with satiety. That is to say, if you eat mostly fat and protein, you'll feel full. If you eat carbs, you'll be hungry within an hour. Veggies and fruits are also great, because it's really hard to go over your caloric budget eating those. Try to binge on lettuce and you'll see what I mean. If you're making room in your caloric budget for fast food, soft drinks or desserts, you'll surely go hungry, because you're "spending" your budget on empty calories.
3. Do cardio. Cardio isn't a magic bullet, but it DOES burn calories. If you find a form of cardio you enjoy, you'll raise your caloric budget while getting healthier.
4. Lift weights. Lifting doesn't lead to weight loss directly, but what it does is activate fat burning. This means you'll maintain your muscle mass during weight loss. This will ensure that you're a healthier person when you reach your weight target.
Whatever you do, don't go thinking caloric deficit is not the answer... It is. As long as you eat good, quality food, and set realistic and sustainable goals, you WILL make it. Don't give in to fad diets, and remember... What you need is a lifestyle change. If it's too hard day to day, you WILL give up. But if you do it right, you won't even consider it a diet, just a better way of life.0 -
I've found that there seems to be bands of calorie consumption that you can work with. For instance, when I went to maintenance, I increased my calories by 250 (my deficit). And I didn't stop losing. I think I had to increase by another 200 to actually maintain. Same thing happened when I started to bulk. I increased my calories by 250 over maintenance. And started to lose weight for a few weeks. Makes no sense at all. But I added another 100 calories and have been gaining a little more than a pound a month.
While calories in - calories out is the basic equation, my experience is that my body has a small range flexibility in controlling that balance.0 -
I think a lot also depends on what you are making up those 1200 calories from. If you are eating a lot of veggies and lean meat or fish, you should be getting quite a lot of food for not so many calories.
I find quite a lot (not always!) from browsing food diaries that many people who are on the 1200-1300 calorie limits, still try to eat the things they normally would, but maybe just less of them, or skip other meals to have one 'normal' meal - which is going to leave you hungry.
If you are trying to change to be healthy long term rather than simply to lose weight as soon as possible, it's often necessary to change what you eat, not just how much.
Agreed. I'm 5'2" and have eaten 1200 (net) for 90 days. The way I have eaten has been sustainable and I have rarely been hungry at the end of the day (but if I am, I will eat over my cals, as I don't believe in starvation). I lost 16 lbs, but even though the last 2 weeks were nearly perfect, this morning I noticed a 1 lb gain. It was working really well, now it's not. So, time to adjust and up my calories.
Everyone is different, and I don't believe there is a "one-size fits all" when it comes to weight loss.0 -
I've found that there seems to be bands of calorie consumption that you can work with. For instance, when I went to maintenance, I increased my calories by 250 (my deficit). And I didn't stop losing. I think I had to increase by another 200 to actually maintain. Same thing happened when I started to bulk. I increased my calories by 250 over maintenance. And started to lose weight for a few weeks. Makes no sense at all. But I added another 100 calories and have been gaining a little more than a pound a month.
While calories in - calories out is the basic equation, my experience is that my body has a small range flexibility in controlling that balance.
That's probably because your actual BMR was a bit higher than the calculations you made. By definition, your BMR is the rate at which you consume exactly as many calories as you expend, but pinning it down precisely is hard to do. Daily activity and metabolism can change from one person to the next.0 -
The problem is, too many people join up, decide 2lb per week is an ideal goal regardless of current size and how much they want to lose, input themselves as sedentary as they have a desk job, and MFP gives them 1200 cals a day. I did this too, when I joined.
MFP is a great tool, but it is just a calculator, at the end of the day, that can only work on the information it's provided. If that information is wrong, so is its answer.
The constant butthurt over 1200 calories is irritating though. I don't understand why people defend it so vehemently. Sure, you can lose on 1200 cals. But if you can also lose on 1500, why would you not eat more?0 -
I've found that there seems to be bands of calorie consumption that you can work with. For instance, when I went to maintenance, I increased my calories by 250 (my deficit). And I didn't stop losing. I think I had to increase by another 200 to actually maintain. Same thing happened when I started to bulk. I increased my calories by 250 over maintenance. And started to lose weight for a few weeks. Makes no sense at all. But I added another 100 calories and have been gaining a little more than a pound a month.
While calories in - calories out is the basic equation, my experience is that my body has a small range flexibility in controlling that balance.
That's probably because your actual BMR was a bit higher than the calculations you made. By definition, your BMR is the rate at which you consume exactly as many calories as you expend, but pinning it down precisely is hard to do. Daily activity and metabolism can change from one person to the next.
I had my BMR calculated through a hydrostatic assessment and six months of steady loss says I know my metabolism pretty accurately. I also wait six weeks after making any sort of change so I can sort out trends from variation.0 -
you have a point. but there are smaller people, like me, whose body burn less. I am 5'8" and 112 lbs and i am so afraid to eat more because my goals are different, i aim to be skinnier than most of the people on mfp. not judging or anything, we just all have different goals and look our best in different sizes.
and i can totally relate to skipping meals in order to stick to the goal.
glad to hear you are doing well by eating more. maybe i will try it after i've reached my goal weight of 110 lbs.
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confused…you were not losing on 1200 so you upped to 1700 and still not losing…is there a point here besides 1200 was not working for you ? From your post it appears that 1700 is not either...0
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I had my BMR calculated through a hydrostatic assessment and six months of steady loss says I know my metabolism pretty accurately. I also wait six weeks after making any sort of change so I can sort out trends from variation.
Interesting! Seems that you're on to something, then.
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I had my BMR calculated through a hydrostatic assessment and six months of steady loss says I know my metabolism pretty accurately. I also wait six weeks after making any sort of change so I can sort out trends from variation.
Interesting! Seems that you're on to something, then.
To be clear: calories in - calories out WORKS unless you have a metabolic condition.
It's just that your body has feedback mechanisms that can jigger the balance slightly and make it seem more complicated than it actually is.0 -
I read the OP and then skipped through the 3 pages of boring comments of arguments because this was just what I needed to hear! I'm similar height/weight/age to you and have been eating 1350 for a while but it is depressing and the scale isnt moving, so I've taken the plunge and upped to 1600 (which is my TDEE-20%) in the hope that eating more will help! Thanks for this post OP, very encouraging. :flowerforyou:0
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I do 1200, 1250...I am 5 ft short. I really don't feel hungry on this amount. Except once a month 24/48 hours before evil Auntie Flo rears her head..then I could eat everything in site..:laugh:
I stick to this number because of my Plantar Fasciitis and my knee issue. I can't get more then 300 calories burned in an hour at the gym without doing more damage to the knee of risking my heal flaring up. I see lots of folks on here who burn much more then I do in an hour..to each his own..this is a personal journey and everyone has to figure out what works for them. I don't come here to judge anyone...I read and try to learn. Hopefully the OP can figure out what they need to be successful in their own journey.:drinker:0 -
If you are on 1200 calories a day and you think just because you are losing weight right now it's working for you, think about it for a minute. What will you do when you hit that plateau wall and the scale isn't dropping anymore cause it will come. You think you are going to drop more calories? Going lower than 1200 is going to get unhealthy. You will want to kill someone on 900 calories a day. The only thing left is to burn more calories. At some point on 1200 or less calories you will be too tired to burn more calories training or doing cardio. You won't have the energy. Think long term folks. This should be a lifestyle change. You will not want to do that long term. Up the calories a little every week as long as you are still losing weight. Then when you plateau you have room to lower them again. Not by a lot either. Just to get the scale moving again.0
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I really wish people would just post their experiences and leave it at that, rather than I did it and so should you.
This. At 5ft, 1700 cals is what I need to maintain my weight not to lose.
It's great that you found you can eat more and lose but it's not going to work for everyone.
That doesn't mean you need yo go right to 1200 from 1700. Start with a small deficit people.0 -
How about agree to disagree - what works for some, doesn't work for others, and visa versa.
For some 1200 works, for others not so much. Age, lifestyle, what you eat (filling foods, or junk), and all sorts of things come into play.
I'm not going to condemn someone for eating more, or less than I do - do what works, when that stops working, change something. Other than that, to each their own.
I agree 100%.
Do what works for you. What I'm realizing is that MFP is a 'starting point' for creating healthy habits. If you do some research, use the program for a bit, you might find adjustments or things that work better for YOU!
It's good information for people who may NOT be losing using this method; it shows another person's experience (I think that's the POINT of the forums).. it lets people know to try things for themselves, do some research, and don't be afraid to make changes when something clearly isn't working for you.0 -
Thank you for sharing your experience. 1200 calories is a good goal for me. I have a hard time getting that many calories in. I am also a university student and I'm 22 and 5'3" at about 157 lbs now. However, my experience is a bit different. I tend to skip meals and forget to eat a lot so it works as a good goal. I think that when and if I start strength training I will need to increase in order to build muscle.0
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Yes, when you get to a point when you want to gain muscle, you actually will need to eat in a surplus, so over the amount of calories you need to maintain your weight.Thank you for sharing your experience. 1200 calories is a good goal for me. I have a hard time getting that many calories in. I am also a university student and I'm 22 and 5'3" at about 157 lbs now. However, my experience is a bit different. I tend to skip meals and forget to eat a lot so it works as a good goal. I think that when and if I start strength training I will need to increase in order to build muscle.0 -
I agree 100%.
Do what works for you. What I'm realizing is that MFP is a 'starting point' for creating healthy habits.
Or unhealthy ones, when the default starting point is 1,200
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Thank you for sharing your experience. 1200 calories is a good goal for me. I have a hard time getting that many calories in. I am also a university student and I'm 22 and 5'3" at about 157 lbs now. However, my experience is a bit different. I tend to skip meals and forget to eat a lot so it works as a good goal. I think that when and if I start strength training I will need to increase in order to build muscle.
Strength training now will preserve the muscle you have. You will lose muscle in addition to fat any time you eat at a deficit unless you take in sufficient protein and do progressive resistance training.0 -
I know I am unable to stick to 1200 calories therefore I have not even tried!!! I am eating 1600 calories per day - I am 5ft7 and weigh 173 lbs. I have lost 16lbs already. I do workout up to 5 times per week.
I guess you have to find what works for you!! I would rather lose weight slower and have an allowance that allows me to have the odd treat. Otherwise I will fall off the wagon and end up bingeing which is not good!!!0 -
I am 60 years old and have been active all my life teaching aerobics, cardio kick boxing and currently spinning to college students. I jumped up in weight by about 20 lbs over the last few years after I remarried. Being widowed and single I found it easy to stay on a healthy diet of high proteins, fruits and vegetables. Finally, at the start of Lent I gave up snacking with my husband after dinner. Then I found my fitness pal and started logging everything I ate and my exercise. With the heavy workouts I do I'm almost finding it difficult to reach my 1200 each day. Since March 5th I've lost 9 lbs. It's not just the 1200 calories it is the quality of the 1200 calories that matters too. You should be eating more protein, less carbs and sugars. Your body burns sugar and carbs first for energy. So, if you eat 1200 calories and it includes sugars, starches and carbs your body will burn that first before it ever touches the fat on your body. If you eat higher amounts of protein, which the body burns last, your body is forced into burning the fat on your body.0
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I eat 10 100 calorie packs of cheetos a day, and so should you!0
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And then there's those people that say, "I know I should eat more than x amount of calories, but I'm not hungry and I can't force myself to eat!" If you can't eat more than 1200 calories, how did you get fat in the first place?!
THIS!!!
Actually, this has happened to me. It's because I was eating a lot of simple carbs and junk before, so I would get hungry faster than I do now on a diet with more fiber and protein. Also, healthy food just isn't all that appealing to me. When I'm wanting junk food, I come home knowing I should eat more, but nothing sounds good.0
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