Why did I gain a pound back if I didn't even eat!
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Forgive me if I am responding incorrectly. My doctor has also discussed the option of using phentermine. However, he stated that he would require me to come in for weekly weigh-ins and to provide printouts of my food diary and exercise diary. At the time he broached this option with me, I was not committed to even attempting any lifestyle changes. I am now. I am a newbie, just started on 4/17/14. I have an upcoming appointment with my primary physician to discus utilizing that "tool" to hopefully help me refrain from binge and compulsive overeating. In addition to working with a therapist to understand and overcome the issues that resulted in my self destructive eating habits. As I understood my doctors explanation of the use of phentermine was to utilize as a temporary tool while I make lifestyle changes and form new habits.
THIS!! And before anyone asks, YES I see a therapist once a week!0 -
"Guess we will see" was in response to the idea that someone knows exactly what will happen to me. In other words, I guess we will see if you know everything like you think, or if I will be successful in counting my calories properly, eating properly, working out properly AND taking the "evil little pill". I don't understand how it can be possible to automatically be labeled as "lazy" when I'm putting the work in as well. If I were taking the pill and just sitting around and not eating, sure you could call me "stupid", "uneducated", or accuse me of "not firing on all pistons", but that is simply not the case. I don't expect this to be an easy journey, and contrary to what it seems as though people believe will happen, I PLAN (there's the word you're looking for) to continue to eat properly and exercise after I reach my "goal". And BTW, I don't say "goal weight" because I am more concerned with getting this under control and forming new HABITS that will last me a lifetime. Goal means healthy. Some people need surgery, some people take pills, and some people don't do anything extra. You shouldn't put someone else down just for doing something different from you.
I think you may be confusing me with that other poster.
No, I was just responding to all of it.
You mentioned the "guess we'll see" and not having a "long-term plan" and I was simply telling you that you are wrong and why you are wrong.
Well let me ask you a question.
If you are confident that you'll be able to keep eating within your calorie goal after you get off the medication................
Then what is the medication for?
To help with the cravings. Yes, I am aware that SOME PEOPLE have the ability to NOT give in all the time, but that has been a constant struggle for the past 10 years which landed me where I was when I started. My mindset has already started changing, and I have started being more aware of the things I did before that I no longer do, such as raiding the fridge at 3 am. I have no interest in staying on this medication the rest of my life or even until I reach my goal. It was an option suggested to me because I had 100 lbs to lose to get to what is considered a healthy weight for my build. I don't even think that I will stay on it past this month because after almost a month, I have found that I look forward to my gym time and when I go to the store, I automatically go towards the fresh products rather than the processed. I feel better now that I have made changes and I want this to continue. Honestly, it opened my eyes to bad habits and allowed me to focus on the habits I want to make the norm for myself.
What do you think will happen with the cravings when you get off the medication?
They will be there, but feeling and looking better is more important to me than the tasty piece of cake or whatever might be the craving of the moment.
Good gawd I didn't realize I was going to need to defend myself for trying something along with the other important things.
You can't control cravings without the medication now, so how will you control them when you're not taking it in the future? At the end of the day, you haven't learned anything about it.
I could be wrong, but what I'm gathering from her posts is that she is using the medication to help control her appetite now while she is also learning to eat properly and exercise. Is this right? This time she is on the meds and sticking to a good routine can help to teach her some healthy habits that she will keep even when she is off the meds. Now will that happen? I don't know I'm not a seer into the future. I've seen it be very successful for some and I've seen it completely fail for others (like myself) and like myself, those folks will pack the pounds lost back on plus some.
ETA: Obviously the OP is not doing the same.
*High Five* You understand EXACTLY what I am trying to say.0 -
I have been taking them as well but I agree you can use them if prescribed by a doctor and still eat healthy and exercise. If you do not eat enough calories a day I will admit you are going to gain the weight back and probably double. You need to seriously eat more and see a doctor because no bowel movement is a life or death problem. Think of all the toxins your body is holding because you haven't used the restroom.0
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Feeling and looking better isn't always the best inspiration though. If it were, then no one would be overweight in the first place. And if that were really your motivation, as mentioned "why do you even need the medication then?" Apparently it's not enough.What do you think will happen with the cravings when you get off the medication?
They will be there, but feeling and looking better is more important to me than the tasty piece of cake or whatever might be the craving of the moment.
Good gawd I didn't realize I was going to need to defend myself for trying something along with the other important things.
Not trying to be mean, just looking at it logically. I've been doing this for over 30 years and this isn't the first time I've heard this story. Haven't seen one yet that has the happy ending they were looking for.
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"Guess we will see" was in response to the idea that someone knows exactly what will happen to me. In other words, I guess we will see if you know everything like you think, or if I will be successful in counting my calories properly, eating properly, working out properly AND taking the "evil little pill". I don't understand how it can be possible to automatically be labeled as "lazy" when I'm putting the work in as well. If I were taking the pill and just sitting around and not eating, sure you could call me "stupid", "uneducated", or accuse me of "not firing on all pistons", but that is simply not the case. I don't expect this to be an easy journey, and contrary to what it seems as though people believe will happen, I PLAN (there's the word you're looking for) to continue to eat properly and exercise after I reach my "goal". And BTW, I don't say "goal weight" because I am more concerned with getting this under control and forming new HABITS that will last me a lifetime. Goal means healthy. Some people need surgery, some people take pills, and some people don't do anything extra. You shouldn't put someone else down just for doing something different from you.
I think you may be confusing me with that other poster.
No, I was just responding to all of it.
You mentioned the "guess we'll see" and not having a "long-term plan" and I was simply telling you that you are wrong and why you are wrong.
Well let me ask you a question.
If you are confident that you'll be able to keep eating within your calorie goal after you get off the medication................
Then what is the medication for?
To help with the cravings. Yes, I am aware that SOME PEOPLE have the ability to NOT give in all the time, but that has been a constant struggle for the past 10 years which landed me where I was when I started. My mindset has already started changing, and I have started being more aware of the things I did before that I no longer do, such as raiding the fridge at 3 am. I have no interest in staying on this medication the rest of my life or even until I reach my goal. It was an option suggested to me because I had 100 lbs to lose to get to what is considered a healthy weight for my build. I don't even think that I will stay on it past this month because after almost a month, I have found that I look forward to my gym time and when I go to the store, I automatically go towards the fresh products rather than the processed. I feel better now that I have made changes and I want this to continue. Honestly, it opened my eyes to bad habits and allowed me to focus on the habits I want to make the norm for myself.
What do you think will happen with the cravings when you get off the medication?
They will be there, but feeling and looking better is more important to me than the tasty piece of cake or whatever might be the craving of the moment.
Good gawd I didn't realize I was going to need to defend myself for trying something along with the other important things.
You can't control cravings without the medication now, so how will you control them when you're not taking it in the future? At the end of the day, you haven't learned anything about it.
I could be wrong, but what I'm gathering from her posts is that she is using the medication to help control her appetite now while she is also learning to eat properly and exercise. Is this right? This time she is on the meds and sticking to a good routine can help to teach her some healthy habits that she will keep even when she is off the meds. Now will that happen? I don't know I'm not a seer into the future. I've seen it be very successful for some and I've seen it completely fail for others (like myself) and like myself, those folks will pack the pounds lost back on plus some.
ETA: Obviously the OP is not doing the same.
*High Five* You understand EXACTLY what I am trying to say.
I do. And if they would have helped me with my negative eating patterns, I would have stayed on them. But mine were pretty much all emotional with my stress and anxiety so I'm instead focusing on that route now. Controlling my stress and anxiety is helping me to not binge and I'm learning new healthy patterns. It's been great and I feel great! Good luck to you!!!0 -
Feeling and looking better isn't always the best inspiration though. If it were, then no one would be overweight in the first place. And if that were really your motivation, as mentioned "why do you even need the medication then?" Apparently it's not enough.What do you think will happen with the cravings when you get off the medication?
They will be there, but feeling and looking better is more important to me than the tasty piece of cake or whatever might be the craving of the moment.
Good gawd I didn't realize I was going to need to defend myself for trying something along with the other important things.
Not trying to be mean, just looking at it logically. I've been doing this for over 30 years and this isn't the first time I've heard this story. Haven't seen one yet that has the happy ending they were looking for.
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Did you by chance read any of my other posts? I'm getting help on multiple levels to help me achieve my goals. Also not trying to be mean, but want you to be aware of the whole picture instead of my inability to fully convey my thoughts in an online forum.0 -
What you are doing to yourself is every bit as unhealthy as being morbidly obese. If you can't lose fat without resorting to such extreme measures then you where just genetically meant to be a bit plump. Or have some sort of medical issue. I would bet 5 quid that this is the first GENUINE bodily starvation response I have seen.0
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"Guess we will see" was in response to the idea that someone knows exactly what will happen to me. In other words, I guess we will see if you know everything like you think, or if I will be successful in counting my calories properly, eating properly, working out properly AND taking the "evil little pill". I don't understand how it can be possible to automatically be labeled as "lazy" when I'm putting the work in as well. If I were taking the pill and just sitting around and not eating, sure you could call me "stupid", "uneducated", or accuse me of "not firing on all pistons", but that is simply not the case. I don't expect this to be an easy journey, and contrary to what it seems as though people believe will happen, I PLAN (there's the word you're looking for) to continue to eat properly and exercise after I reach my "goal". And BTW, I don't say "goal weight" because I am more concerned with getting this under control and forming new HABITS that will last me a lifetime. Goal means healthy. Some people need surgery, some people take pills, and some people don't do anything extra. You shouldn't put someone else down just for doing something different from you.
I think you may be confusing me with that other poster.
No, I was just responding to all of it.
You mentioned the "guess we'll see" and not having a "long-term plan" and I was simply telling you that you are wrong and why you are wrong.
Well let me ask you a question.
If you are confident that you'll be able to keep eating within your calorie goal after you get off the medication................
Then what is the medication for?
To help with the cravings. Yes, I am aware that SOME PEOPLE have the ability to NOT give in all the time, but that has been a constant struggle for the past 10 years which landed me where I was when I started. My mindset has already started changing, and I have started being more aware of the things I did before that I no longer do, such as raiding the fridge at 3 am. I have no interest in staying on this medication the rest of my life or even until I reach my goal. It was an option suggested to me because I had 100 lbs to lose to get to what is considered a healthy weight for my build. I don't even think that I will stay on it past this month because after almost a month, I have found that I look forward to my gym time and when I go to the store, I automatically go towards the fresh products rather than the processed. I feel better now that I have made changes and I want this to continue. Honestly, it opened my eyes to bad habits and allowed me to focus on the habits I want to make the norm for myself.
What do you think will happen with the cravings when you get off the medication?
They will be there, but feeling and looking better is more important to me than the tasty piece of cake or whatever might be the craving of the moment.
Good gawd I didn't realize I was going to need to defend myself for trying something along with the other important things.
You don't have to answer my questions. You can ignore me if you want.
I'm curious that your strategy appears to be that you need the appetite-suppressing medication to avoid cravings, but your plan for after the medication is pretty much that you plan on being able to avoid them later.
I guess I just don't get it. If you don't think you can control yourself now - and hence, need the medication - I don't understand what makes you think you'll be able to control yourself later.
Because nothing tastes as good as skinny feelz, yo.0 -
Because nothing tastes as good as skinny feelz, yo.
Pretty much :laugh:0 -
Because nothing tastes as good as skinny feelz, yo.
You've clearly never been to Popeye's.0 -
Because nothing tastes as good as skinny feelz, yo.
You've clearly never been to Popeye's.
They really need to stop advertising that Cajun surf and turf lol0 -
Which still has nothing to do with addressing the issue of controlling your eating habits. Let's say everything except for the eating issues gets solved. If you're still not in control of how you eat, you'll gain weight. Not my rules, that's just how it works. You can take medication to reduce cravings and appetite, but if you're thinking that once you hit your goal weight or look that it's going to go away without the medication, then you will more than likely be in for a rude awakening. Especially when once you're off it and are confronted with food they you associate with happiness.
Feeling and looking better isn't always the best inspiration though. If it were, then no one would be overweight in the first place. And if that were really your motivation, as mentioned "why do you even need the medication then?" Apparently it's not enough.What do you think will happen with the cravings when you get off the medication?
They will be there, but feeling and looking better is more important to me than the tasty piece of cake or whatever might be the craving of the moment.
Good gawd I didn't realize I was going to need to defend myself for trying something along with the other important things.
Not trying to be mean, just looking at it logically. I've been doing this for over 30 years and this isn't the first time I've heard this story. Haven't seen one yet that has the happy ending they were looking for.
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Did you by chance read any of my other posts? I'm getting help on multiple levels to help me achieve my goals. Also not trying to be mean, but want you to be aware of the whole picture instead of my inability to fully convey my thoughts in an online forum.
You're dealing with it as an individual. I've dealt with several dozens of individuals attempting the same. As a professional in the business, you can trust when I say that the success results from this type of program are very very low.
Whether you believe me or not is your option.
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Which still has nothing to do with addressing the issue of controlling your eating habits. Let's say everything except for the eating issues gets solved. If you're still not in control of how you eat, you'll gain weight. Not my rules, that's just how it works. You can take medication to reduce cravings and appetite, but if you're thinking that once you hit your goal weight or look that it's going to go away without the medication, then you will more than likely be in for a rude awakening. Especially when once you're off it and are confronted with food they you associate with happiness.
You're dealing with it as an individual. I've dealt with several dozens of individuals attempting the same. As a professional in the business, you can trust when I say that the success results from this type of program are very very low.
Whether you believe me or not is your option.
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So, you're saying that even though I am getting professional help with how to address the way I view food and my eating habits, I'm STILL going to fail??0 -
Which still has nothing to do with addressing the issue of controlling your eating habits. Let's say everything except for the eating issues gets solved. If you're still not in control of how you eat, you'll gain weight. Not my rules, that's just how it works. You can take medication to reduce cravings and appetite, but if you're thinking that once you hit your goal weight or look that it's going to go away without the medication, then you will more than likely be in for a rude awakening. Especially when once you're off it and are confronted with food they you associate with happiness.
You're dealing with it as an individual. I've dealt with several dozens of individuals attempting the same. As a professional in the business, you can trust when I say that the success results from this type of program are very very low.
Whether you believe me or not is your option.
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So, you're saying that even though I am getting professional help with how to address the way I view food and my eating habits, I'm STILL going to fail??
I don't think anyone is saying you WILL fail, but in our experience and opinion your methods significantly increase the likelihood of that outcome.0 -
Which still has nothing to do with addressing the issue of controlling your eating habits. Let's say everything except for the eating issues gets solved. If you're still not in control of how you eat, you'll gain weight. Not my rules, that's just how it works. You can take medication to reduce cravings and appetite, but if you're thinking that once you hit your goal weight or look that it's going to go away without the medication, then you will more than likely be in for a rude awakening. Especially when once you're off it and are confronted with food they you associate with happiness.
You're dealing with it as an individual. I've dealt with several dozens of individuals attempting the same. As a professional in the business, you can trust when I say that the success results from this type of program are very very low.
Whether you believe me or not is your option.
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So, you're saying that even though I am getting professional help with how to address the way I view food and my eating habits, I'm STILL going to fail??
I don't think anyone is saying you WILL fail, but in our experience and opinion your methods significantly increase the likelihood of that outcome.
I guess I don't understand how you feel that way. I thought when you had a problem, seeking help to change it was the way to do it. I mean, I'd much rather get help than continue to try and fail and be mad at myself over and over again like I have in the past.0 -
I guess I don't understand how you feel that way.
I think it's more that you don't *want* to understand how we feel that way.0 -
OP
It's probably water weight from the sodium in the beef broth. Tons of salt0 -
There are no absolutes, but the percentage of success with phentermine and keeping the weight off WITHOUT isn't in your favor. You MAY be one of the 10% who succeed, but I wouldn't count on that.Which still has nothing to do with addressing the issue of controlling your eating habits. Let's say everything except for the eating issues gets solved. If you're still not in control of how you eat, you'll gain weight. Not my rules, that's just how it works. You can take medication to reduce cravings and appetite, but if you're thinking that once you hit your goal weight or look that it's going to go away without the medication, then you will more than likely be in for a rude awakening. Especially when once you're off it and are confronted with food they you associate with happiness.
You're dealing with it as an individual. I've dealt with several dozens of individuals attempting the same. As a professional in the business, you can trust when I say that the success results from this type of program are very very low.
Whether you believe me or not is your option.
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So, you're saying that even though I am getting professional help with how to address the way I view food and my eating habits, I'm STILL going to fail??
What you can count on is that if you CAN do it without the medication now, your chances of weight gain will be greatly reduced.
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Hi my name is kimberly, I started Phentermine on April 2, 2014. I've lost a total of 18.6 Lbs as of yesterday April 17, 2014. I got up this morning to weight myself and it said I gained 1.6 Lbs. I eat dinner everyday and drinks tons of water. Yesterday for dinner I had beef broth. I find it very hard to eat because I have no appetite. I only eat once a day because I have to. I haven't had a bowel movement in over two weeks but I did take laxatives to help me go, but it was just water. Any advice would be great. Thank you.
Yikes. Honey, maybe you should call your doctor and get a referral to a dietitian. This is going nowhere good for you
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OP
It's probably water weight from the sodium in the beef broth. Tons of salt
Uh, at this point I'm pretty sure OP needs the sodium. And some carbs, fat, protein, and calories.0 -
In answer to your asked question OP beef broth has a very high sodium content and with sodium comes higher water retention, your added 1.6 pounds is assuredly water weight.
In answer to your unasked question, you should stop what you are doing immediately and go consult with your doctor. You sound like you are doing something so extreme as to likely cause yourself considerable harm.0 -
There are no absolutes, but the percentage of success with phentermine and keeping the weight off WITHOUT isn't in your favor. You MAY be one of the 10% who succeed, but I wouldn't count on that.
What you can count on is that if you CAN do it without the medication now, your chances of weight gain will be greatly reduced.
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So then just stop taking it and hope for the best with only the exercise and tracking my food intake when that hasn't worked in the past?0 -
Which still has nothing to do with addressing the issue of controlling your eating habits. Let's say everything except for the eating issues gets solved. If you're still not in control of how you eat, you'll gain weight. Not my rules, that's just how it works. You can take medication to reduce cravings and appetite, but if you're thinking that once you hit your goal weight or look that it's going to go away without the medication, then you will more than likely be in for a rude awakening. Especially when once you're off it and are confronted with food they you associate with happiness.
You're dealing with it as an individual. I've dealt with several dozens of individuals attempting the same. As a professional in the business, you can trust when I say that the success results from this type of program are very very low.
Whether you believe me or not is your option.
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So, you're saying that even though I am getting professional help with how to address the way I view food and my eating habits, I'm STILL going to fail??
I don't think anyone is saying you WILL fail, but in our experience and opinion your methods significantly increase the likelihood of that outcome.
I guess I don't understand how you feel that way. I thought when you had a problem, seeking help to change it was the way to do it. I mean, I'd much rather get help than continue to try and fail and be mad at myself over and over again like I have in the past.
I guess the point is, you have to do the work. You have to change your eating habits and learn how to control your eating. The medication helps now with cravings. Once you come off them, you still have to do that work that the meds are doing now, so it is only delaying what needs to be done by you. It is good that you are getting help for emotional eating and stuff, and I wish you success. It is just that in the experience of most of the people commenting here that the meds do not guarantee success, in fact often it is the opposite because people are not able or willing to do the work required once they are off the meds.0 -
I guess I don't understand how you feel that way.
I think it's more that you don't *want* to understand how we feel that way.
Not true.0 -
There are no absolutes, but the percentage of success with phentermine and keeping the weight off WITHOUT isn't in your favor. You MAY be one of the 10% who succeed, but I wouldn't count on that.
What you can count on is that if you CAN do it without the medication now, your chances of weight gain will be greatly reduced.
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So then just stop taking it and hope for the best with only the exercise and tracking my food intake when that hasn't worked in the past?
Yes, that sounds like a good plan. Except figure out what' exactly "hasn't worked in the past." Maybe you were underestimating calories in or overestimating calories out. But there are lots of people around here who will be happy to help you figure it out, so yes, I think you should go with your sarcastically-written plan, yes.0 -
So then just stop taking it and hope for the best with only the exercise and tracking my food intake when that hasn't worked in the past?
Yes, that sounds like a good plan. Except figure out what' exactly "hasn't worked in the past." Maybe you were underestimating calories in or overestimating calories out. But there are lots of people around here who will be happy to help you figure it out, so yes, I think you should go with your sarcastically-written plan, yes.
Okay.0 -
OP
It's probably water weight from the sodium in the beef broth. Tons of salt
Uh, at this point I'm pretty sure OP needs the sodium. And some carbs, fat, protein, and calories.
Agreed..0 -
So, I don't even care about the pills. All I was talking about was posting what you did on a public forum and having an expectation that people weren't going to say negative things. I was thinking of "the definition of insanity", but it's not quite the same. In 100% seriousness, I am glad to hear that you see a counselor. I manage mental illness myself (and I take pills for it, horror of horrors! but there's no talk of how I'm going to manage when I stop taking them, because there is no such time to look forward to), so sometimes I make light of it. If that is the case for you too, but you do not appreciate jokes about it, I sincerely apologize."Guess we will see" was in response to the idea that someone knows exactly what will happen to me. In other words, I guess we will see if you know everything like you think, or if I will be successful in counting my calories properly, eating properly, working out properly AND taking the "evil little pill". I don't understand how it can be possible to automatically be labeled as "lazy" when I'm putting the work in as well. If I were taking the pill and just sitting around and not eating, sure you could call me "stupid", "uneducated", or accuse me of "not firing on all pistons", but that is simply not the case. I don't expect this to be an easy journey, and contrary to what it seems as though people believe will happen, I PLAN (there's the word you're looking for) to continue to eat properly and exercise after I reach my "goal". And BTW, I don't say "goal weight" because I am more concerned with getting this under control and forming new HABITS that will last me a lifetime. Goal means healthy. Some people need surgery, some people take pills, and some people don't do anything extra. You shouldn't put someone else down just for doing something different from you.
If the kind of counseling that you do is cognitive behavioral therapy, then something you might want to keep in mind is, if you have to start out by saying "Y'all don't badger me, but..." on a public forum, you might wanna rethink that course of behavior. It's not likely to lead where you want to go. It's a little bit like starting off with "I'm not a racist, but...", if you see what I mean. It's a red flag.0 -
I think these pills have such a low success rate because people don't change any of their habits. They expect these pills to be a miracle "take this you'll be thin" type of fad. But I've not seen where using the meds (in the manner she is using them: with regular meetings with her doc and therapist, having a healthier eating plan/patterns and exercising) won't help her control her out of control eating patterns (while doing the aforementioned) and form new habits. So that when she comes off the meds (which you typically do around the end of month three right?) she already has these healthy habits in place which will help her in future cravings and if used correctly could have completely new eating patterns. I mean you'll fail with the pills if you don't change behavior, but she is saying she is changing behaviors. Who is to say she'll not form new healthier habits that will be sustaining in the long run?
ETA: Case in point of someone wishing these to be a miracle and still having unhealthy eating patterns: The OP0 -
Wow, that does not sound healthy at all.0
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