There is no magic diet….

ndj1979

Hate to break it to you folks, but there is no "magical diet" that is going to "melt off" the fat. So many times we see people in the forums saying I need to do low carb, keto, paleo, this cleanse, that cleanse etc, because they say that calorie deficit is not working for them.

Then, upon closer examination you usually find that these folks do not consistently log, do not have a food scale, are over estimating calorie burns, or something else.

One can lose weight on paleo, keto, low carb, etc, but that does not mean they are superior to a good ole fashioned calorie deficit, because at the end of the day all these methods - keto, low carb, etc - are just tools that one uses to create a calorie deficit. No matter what you may think, trust me you are not the one person in the known universe that defies that laws of math and can eat in a positive energy balance and lose weight just because you are eating the "right foods".

Just because you lost weight restricting certain foods like carbs, sugar, etc, that does not mean that they are "bad", it just means that you replaced calorie dense foods with less calorie dense ones and created a deficit by restricting those whole food groups. At the end of the day, you can eat what you want and have success.

We did not get obese over night and we are not going to get fit/healthy/athletic over night either.

My suggestion;

eat in a reasonable deficit = 500 cals per day.
get a food scale and weigh measure everything
log everything that you eat and be consistent
use trial and error to figure out your maintenance TDEE
move around more < my personal suggestion would be lift heavy using compound movements but that is not for everyone.
if you like cardio do it, if you do not like cardio do not do it…
a common macro setting is 40p 30f 30 carbs < those are percents…
restrict nothing and continue to eat the foods that you like...
sugar and carbs are not the devil …

there are no special snowflakes….even if you have a medical condition you are going to need to create a negative energy balance to lose weight, but getting there will be more difficult….

Oh and feel free to do low carb, keto, paleo, etc….just don't say they are 'superior' or that you ate in a deficit before, lost no weight, and then switched to low carb and it just started to magically come off….

good luck…..!

Serah87

:drinker:

dwarfiegodsmack

:drinker:

Sinisterly

Well said.

LunaZuriel

I've heard the term "special snowflake" before...Can't remember where..

manderson27

But? but? .....what about the ice cream cleanse? :sad: :sad:

Sinisterly

But? but? .....what about the ice cream cleanse? :sad: :sad:

That's just yummy >.>
y u make me hungry!!

DeliriumCanBeFun

Word!

ndj1979

But? but? .....what about the ice cream cleanse? :sad: :sad:

lol I fully support the ice cream cleanse!

ndj1979

I've heard the term "special snowflake" before...Can't remember where..

an MFP forum more than likely….

FoxyLifter

Lifelink

Agreed.

Also, I remember reading a thread about a "sugar cleanse". Had me in stitches.

ndj1979

Agreed.

Also, I remember reading a thread about a "sugar cleanse". Had me in stitches.

lol, I am sure that blew some peoples heads off….

Forty6and2

Why didn't somebody tell me this earlier? Are you guys trying to sabotage me?!

*throws down cauliflower cookie and storms off*

msbunnie68

Amen people!

I fight for the right of pizzas everywhere.

Pizza is pizza. Cauliflower is cauliflower. Cauliflower crust =/= pizza crust no matter what sauce you drown it in and it is not a holier than thou way to lose weight. It is a miserable way to do it.

DamePiglet

But... Doc Oz says otherwise!

ndj1979

Amen people!

I fight for the right of pizzas everywhere.

Pizza is pizza. Cauliflower is cauliflower. Cauliflower crust =/= pizza crust no matter what sauce you drown it in and it is not a holier than thou way to lose weight. It is a miserable way to do it.

maybe that should be our next thread…."real pizza does not have cauliflower crust" I am sure that would cause some mind blown but hurt...

Will_Thrust_For_Candy

So what you're saying is that you want a Dr. Oz t-shirt to train in?

blizzardsmom

Thank you!!!! We all know you are 100 % correct. Some choose not to accept it ... that makes a difference.

LunaZuriel

I've heard the term "special snowflake" before...Can't remember where..

an MFP forum more than likely….

Nah, It was on a movie or a game I believe.

DamePiglet

So what you're saying is that you want an Ozzie Osborne t-shirt to train in?

FIFY :drinker:

DamePiglet

Amen people!

I fight for the right of pizzas everywhere.

Pizza is pizza. Cauliflower is cauliflower. Cauliflower crust =/= pizza crust no matter what sauce you drown it in and it is not a holier than thou way to lose weight. It is a miserable way to do it.

maybe that should be our next thread…."real pizza does not have cauliflower crust" I am sure that would cause some mind blown but hurt...

You don't want to go there... But if you do, make sure I'm online!!!

JustinAnimal

Well, I'm glad everyone agrees, but I don't know if this is being "broken" to me. I mean, since I was new here, I've had people cram that sentiment down my throat and tell me what an idiot I am for not knowing it. I''m sure I'm not the only one and I doubt there are lots of folks on here who feel this way. If they do, they usually leave a forum post saying, "Magic diet? What do you think?"

As for the eat whatever you want, you tell me how you're feeling twenty years down the road. I understand it works for weight loss, but not cancer, heart disease, the vast majority of what's killing westerners.

That said: CICO, yes.

ndj1979

So what you're saying is that you want a Dr. Oz t-shirt to train in?

yes, please send ASAP

msbunnie68

Amen people!

I fight for the right of pizzas everywhere.

Pizza is pizza. Cauliflower is cauliflower. Cauliflower crust =/= pizza crust no matter what sauce you drown it in and it is not a holier than thou way to lose weight. It is a miserable way to do it.

maybe that should be our next thread…."real pizza does not have cauliflower crust" I am sure that would cause some mind blown but hurt...

You don't want to go there... But if you do, make sure I'm online!!!

If I served Nonna Maria up cauliflower crust 'pizza' it would become a face mask and a new dress for me pretty quickly....along with a flurry of evil Italian words that I dare not type.

ndj1979

Well, I'm glad everyone agrees, but I don't know if this is being "broken" to me. I mean, since I was new here, I've had people cram that sentiment down my throat and tell me what an idiot I am for not knowing it. I''m sure I'm not the only one and I doubt there are lots of folks on here who feel this way. If they do, they usually leave a forum post saying, "Magic diet? What do you think?"

As for the eat whatever you want, you tell me how you're feeling twenty years down the road. I understand it works for weight loss, but not cancer, heart disease, the vast majority of what's killing westerners.

That said: CICO, yes.

just spreading a little 9000 post knowledge …

As far as my health, I am a seven year cancer survivor and at last physical my health is almost perfect based on blood work and other health markers..

So you are saying that some ice cream, cookies, pizza, etc could lead to cancer, heart disease, etc?

ndj1979

Amen people!

I fight for the right of pizzas everywhere.

Pizza is pizza. Cauliflower is cauliflower. Cauliflower crust =/= pizza crust no matter what sauce you drown it in and it is not a holier than thou way to lose weight. It is a miserable way to do it.

maybe that should be our next thread…."real pizza does not have cauliflower crust" I am sure that would cause some mind blown but hurt...

You don't want to go there... But if you do, make sure I'm online!!!

If I served Nonna Maria up cauliflower crust 'pizza' it would become a face mask and a new dress for me pretty quickly....along with a flurry of evil Italian words that I dare not type.

bhahahaha, I would get a wooden spoon to the face, knuckles, and rear…!

JenniTheVeggie

Agree...but.......I'm constantly saying whatever works for YOU. Also.....I don't use the word diet. Diet equals short term to me.

Shropshire1959

Hate to break it to you folks, but there is no "magical diet" that is going to "melt off" the fat. So many times we see people in the forums saying I need to do low carb, keto, paleo, this cleanse, that cleanse etc, because they say that calorie deficit is not working for them.

Then, upon closer examination you usually find that these folks do not consistently log, do not have a food scale, are over estimating calorie burns, or something else.

One can lose weight on paleo, keto, low carb, etc, but that does not mean they are superior to a good ole fashioned calorie deficit, because at the end of the day all these methods - keto, low carb, etc - are just tools that one uses to create a calorie deficit. No matter what you may think, trust me you are not the one person in the known universe that defies that laws of math and can eat in a positive energy balance and lose weight just because you are eating the "right foods".

Just because you lost weight restricting certain foods like carbs, sugar, etc, that does not mean that they are "bad", it just means that you replaced calorie dense foods with less calorie dense ones and created a deficit by restricting those whole food groups. At the end of the day, you can eat what you want and have success.

We did not get obese over night and we are not going to get fit/healthy/athletic over night either.

My suggestion;

eat in a reasonable deficit = 500 cals per day.
get a food scale and weigh measure everything
log everything that you eat and be consistent
use trial and error to figure out your maintenance TDEE
move around more < my personal suggestion would be lift heavy using compound movements but that is not for everyone.
if you like cardio do it, if you do not like cardio do not do it…
a common macro setting is 40p 30f 30 carbs < those are percents…
restrict nothing and continue to eat the foods that you like...
sugar and carbs are not the devil …

there are no special snowflakes….even if you have a medical condition you are going to need to create a negative energy balance to lose weight, but getting there will be more difficult….

Oh and feel free to do low carb, keto, paleo, etc….just don't say they are 'superior' or that you ate in a deficit before, lost no weight, and then switched to low carb and it just started to magically come off….

good luck…..!

Cool.

O.K mods .. you can close the forum down now :-p

ndj1979

Hate to break it to you folks, but there is no "magical diet" that is going to "melt off" the fat. So many times we see people in the forums saying I need to do low carb, keto, paleo, this cleanse, that cleanse etc, because they say that calorie deficit is not working for them.

Then, upon closer examination you usually find that these folks do not consistently log, do not have a food scale, are over estimating calorie burns, or something else.

One can lose weight on paleo, keto, low carb, etc, but that does not mean they are superior to a good ole fashioned calorie deficit, because at the end of the day all these methods - keto, low carb, etc - are just tools that one uses to create a calorie deficit. No matter what you may think, trust me you are not the one person in the known universe that defies that laws of math and can eat in a positive energy balance and lose weight just because you are eating the "right foods".

Just because you lost weight restricting certain foods like carbs, sugar, etc, that does not mean that they are "bad", it just means that you replaced calorie dense foods with less calorie dense ones and created a deficit by restricting those whole food groups. At the end of the day, you can eat what you want and have success.

We did not get obese over night and we are not going to get fit/healthy/athletic over night either.

My suggestion;

eat in a reasonable deficit = 500 cals per day.
get a food scale and weigh measure everything
log everything that you eat and be consistent
use trial and error to figure out your maintenance TDEE
move around more < my personal suggestion would be lift heavy using compound movements but that is not for everyone.
if you like cardio do it, if you do not like cardio do not do it…
a common macro setting is 40p 30f 30 carbs < those are percents…
restrict nothing and continue to eat the foods that you like...
sugar and carbs are not the devil …

there are no special snowflakes….even if you have a medical condition you are going to need to create a negative energy balance to lose weight, but getting there will be more difficult….

Oh and feel free to do low carb, keto, paleo, etc….just don't say they are 'superior' or that you ate in a deficit before, lost no weight, and then switched to low carb and it just started to magically come off….

good luck…..!

Cool.

O.K mods .. you can close the forum down now :-p

bhahahahaha
that will NEVER happen ...

Ang108

Agree...but.......I'm constantly saying whatever works for YOU. Also.....I don't use the word diet. Diet equals short term to me.

I accept that that is how you feel. For me a diet is what most cultures have eaten for hundreds of years......nothing short term about it.....:o). I use the word " diet " all the time, because in other cultures it does not generally mean to eat restrictively for weight loss.