1200 cals is just fine. 1100 is just fine too. If....

Forty6and2

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

I think this might have been the 5th? thread I've run into you in. yeah, your information is wrong. You need to find a new doctor if they are ok with you eating that little and you're wasting your money on your "nutritionist."

Sincerely,

5'1 and losing on 1700 calories

Forty6and2

Good for you! I think all these people constantly shoving 12, 13 and 1400 calories down our throats want us to stay fat

You are so ridiculous. Seriously, as I mentioned in my previous post, I'm 5'1, eating 1700 calories a day, nearly sedentary and losing on target. Educate yourself.

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Sreneesa

Although if you tell me getting all my required vitamins and minerals every day and eat healthy I'll look like a fitness model, I'll try my hardest to believe you, because I'd really love for it to be true. :happy:

Anybody can be more fit, and you should be able to do something, even if it is walking, but it is easy to make excuses why you cannot. I have thyroid disease, but it doesn't have me, I don't let it slow me down at all. I will tell you what, when I am ready I will post before and after pics in a bathing suit (I only have one in a 2-piece after 20 lbs. down but that is good enough), then you will see exactly what I am talking about.

Jiggling fat means you are out of shape, it is not genetics, it is called not being fit.

Actually it is genetics to some extent, according to recent studies.

Regardless, if I can't breathe, I can't walk. But I certainly agree, fitness does matter. However, that was my point. Eating 1200 calories a day if one is sedentary regardless isn't going to make things any worse. However, if I were exercising, I'd be eating more than that, personally, at least over the long haul.

Have to agree that genetics does have something to do with based on experience. Even when I didn't workout I still never had jiggling fat. NEVER. Always solid. My mother too. Even after having five kids and me having one kid we both still looked solid. My pictures I posted from three-four months ago on my profile are beginning pics with my workout bra and stomach showing me at 185 when I first joined MFP back in December.

So yes, genetics does play a part at least in my family. No jiggling fat over this way.

Forty6and2

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

3dogsrunning

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

eta - sorry somehow eneded up on someone else's diary

SezxyStef

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

I did wont be long before she is warned...

I see as well she has gone from dietician to nutrionist in this thread...

Aaron_K123

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

I did wont be long before she is warned...

I see as well she has gone from dietician to nutrionist in this thread...

Troll perhaps?

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

Unfortunately her diary tells a different story. It seems she nets more than 4-500 calories. And that includes logging exercise like food preparation and veterinary care. I'm willing to be she is netting far more than that.

There's no way a person could be netting that much and still be walking around. However most people will not check, they'll just take her at her word.

InevitableButterfly

Good for you! I think all these people constantly shoving 12, 13 and 1400 calories down our throats want us to stay fat

Nope. We just want you and the people you are giving misleading and inaccurate medical advice to stay alive. :flowerforyou:
By the way, this is from the Community Guidelines:

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Profiles, groups, messages, posts, or wall comments that encourage anorexia, bulimia, or very low calorie diets of any kind will be removed, and may be grounds for account deletion. This includes positive references to ana/mia, purging, or self-starving. Our goal is to provide users with the tools to achieve their weight management goals at a steady, sustainable rate. Use of the site to promote, glamorize, or achieve dangerously low levels of eating is not permitted.

3dogsrunning

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

Unfortunately her diary tells a different story. It seems she nets more than 4-500 calories. And that includes logging exercise like food preparation and veterinary care. I'm willing to be she is netting far more than that.

There's no way a person could be netting that much and still be walking around. However most people will not check, they'll just take her at her word.

My bad, I must have clicked the wrong person.

That poster's diary is not open, shockingly.

Forty6and2

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

I did wont be long before she is warned...

I see as well she has gone from dietician to nutrionist in this thread...

I've been reporting her posts in the hopes that she gets banned. I can see her advice making somebody who is newbly get into a dangerously low calorie diet.

Lenicedb

I'm 5'1" and I totally agree with you. I start putting on weight at 1700 calories.

Annie_01

you are full of it.

Who me??? Naw...you must be talking about that guy over there

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Well...okay...some days I am full of it...I admit.

Jestinia

So I did find a very small study that shows exercise preserving muscle in a major deficit. In fact, in this study, the ones exercising didn't get to eat back their calories so were in a greater deficit than the sedentary subjects and the ones exercising still preserved muscle. They lost the same scale weight as the sedentary subjects but they lost more fat and kept more muscle. Also in both groups on 800 calories a day for five weeks, metabolic rate slowed down %20. Doesn't say in the abstract if it was permanent or not. Looks like the jury is in, at least for obese women in this study, exercise is a good idea if one can do it.:

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/46/4/622.short

Obese women (140-180% of ideal body weight) were studied on a metabolic ward during 1 wk of maintenance feeding, followed by 5 wk of 800 kcal/d (liquid formula diet). Five subjects participated in a supervised program of daily aerobic exercise and three subjects remained sedentary. Total weight loss was not different between exercising and nonexercising subjects but significantly more of the weight loss came from fat and less from fat-free mass in the exercising subjects. Resting metabolic rate (RMR) declined similarly in both groups (approximately 20%), even though exercising subjects were in greater negative energy balance due to the added energy cost of exercise. In summary, results from this controlled inpatient study indicate that exercise is beneficial when coupled with food restriction because it favors loss of body fat and preserves fat-free mass.

Annie_01

Thank You !!!!!

Your welcome...no problem!

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

I'm 5'1" and I totally agree with you. I start putting on weight at 1700 calories.

My questions would be:

1.) are you using a food scale to weigh out all of your portions?

2.) over what time period did you gain?

I just increased calories recently. I "gained" 2 lbs for a month, then it dropped off. It's glycogen/water retention from increased carbs. Not fat.

lisaxxa

okay well then...at 30lbs a TDEE-20% deficet is too high...sorry...

1/2lb a week is a good healthy rate of loss for 30lbs...so that is TDEE-10%

And when I input your starting stats into scooby...144lbs, 61 inches, 37 and sedentary..wow imagine it gave 1333, TDEE-10% was 1499, and I could snip the screen and go to photobucket and post here but eh...I have DC'd it...maybe you should have.

And if your profile pic is you and your son you are not sedentary...so imagine lightly active goes to 1718.

Not sure why you felt the need to post this...it is common knowledge that the AMA says that in order to get in all your macro/micros you need at least 1200...and the fact you mention starvation mode...really?

After a few months no you wouldn't be hungry, when the body isn't getting enough food it creates a hormone to alter your hunger signals to lower so you aren't in constant agongy...see even your body knows something is wrong

So...1200 is the limit for women regardless of their height...

When someone new writes a post about "is 1200 o.k." don't just jump in and say "you'll die." Say "what are your stats?" Please. Can we stop the misinformation?
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Weight loss doesn't last forever... unless YOU ARE SHORT AND EATING OVER 1200 CALORIES!

Ironic statement is ironic

Oh and stop spreading mis-information....

This^^ I'm 5 foot 3, and eating between 1500 and 2000 calories a day depending on my activities, and I'm dropping weight and body fat % at a steady rate. So...

Now I am being completely neutral and just state what i have experienced.

I'm 5 ft 2. and i had been around 130~135 pounds for at least my entire high school years. and i started to lose weight from 2013 July.

and from July to september 2013 i went from 135~106 lbs. and then successfully maintained 106 till now.
recently i ate way too much,...actually i am trying to reefed and reset my BMR.

when i was losing weight. i'd never eat more than 1000 calories. sometimes about 700 calories a day, and i still workout as usual.

i think it is just they thinner you are, the less calories you should take.

when i was 135 pounds. 1500 calories can make me lose weight
when i was 106 pounds. 1500 calories can make me significantly "bloated"
since i am too skinny, almost no extra fat, so any extra fat is just so noticeable.

im not saying below 1200 calories a day is good for you
I'm just stating my experience
its also a question for me.
i dont wanna be on 1000 or less calories diet forever.

_HeartsOnFire_

I am 5 ft even. I went to a doctor and a nutritionist. I currently net a MAX of 4-500 calories a day. Im never hungry. truly. I didn't even have to get used to it because I realized in my head that I would eat when bored, happy, sad or whatever. people of mfp are freakin out over my numbers and that's fine. they are not doctors. You eat whats healthy and working for you. as long as your doc is ok with it go for it girl!

Also, it's against the community guidelines to give this kind of advice.

Check her recent posts, it's all the advice she's been giving.

I did wont be long before she is warned...

I see as well she has gone from dietician to nutrionist in this thread...

I've been reporting her posts in the hopes that she gets banned. I can see her advice making somebody who is newbly get into a dangerously low calorie diet.

I have been doing that also, her "advice" is dangerous.

bethlaf

my last words, the 1200 myth has been around longer than MFP- we will continue to beat the dragon but dragons are notoriously difficult to slay.....

again if op thinks this works for her, ok ...

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