I JUST WANT SOME CHOCOLAAAAAATE

SLLRunner

It's true. That's all I really want right now.....

Instead of heading to the kitchen though, I'm going to talk to you fine people instead.

What's up on this lovely Monday evening?

I just had a so delicious coconut milk ice cream bar......CHOCOLATE!

AllOutof_Bubblegum

Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?

No. Because people who have been here long enough know that reasonable treats worked into your daily diet do not hinder weight loss or fitness goals in the slightest.

Emporor_Augustus

Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?

Not really. Not at all, I'd say. There's nothing defeatist about realizing you want something and then eating it. I hate the idea of "cheat" days or meals or treats, because that really sets you up to believe certain foods are evil and dangerous and you have to RESIST!! or you'll get fat again, which is an unhealthy relationship to have with food.

You want chocolate? Cool. Plan for it, eat it, log it, move on with your life. I eat chocolate all the time. I eat a lot of junk, actually. But I know my TDEE, my calorie goals and my macros, and I haven't had a single no loss week since I started losing. Balance is more important than ANYTHING else in weight loss. It'll never stay off otherwise.

I'm going to repost this since apparently some people missed when I wrote it the first time:

"Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?"

haleeloses

I have to plan my sweets. I just can't go and eat a piece of anything sweet right now because then maybe I won't stop LOL...so yes, I do so much better when I plan.

And that's totally cool! I get where you're coming from - end of the day, everything's already been planned, today was supposed to be a good strong deficit and you're just like "oh one bowl of gelato wouldn't hurt." Totally been there. I was just weighing in on the omnipresent argument on to cheat or not to cheat :]

Personally, I just had my last meal of the day and I have some wiggle room to play with, but I'm trying to decide if I want popcorn or a popsicle more. Hmmm. Maybe I'll just cross stitch or something instead.

I can't wait until I get to the point where I have better control over myself so i can splurge here and there within my calorie deficit! i get scared of ruining my whole day at this point. dang sugar...

JesterMFP

Dudes, just have a small piece of chocolate. A Dove Promise is 44 calories, what's the big deal?

You're right, there's nothing inherently wrong with eating a small piece of chocolate, if you just eat the one piece and that's it. However, hear out my logic for why you shouldn't eat it right now.

Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?

Ok, so here's my logic, and what worked for me: eat the chocolate. Fit it into an overall balanced diet. Stop calling eating "cheating". Lose weight (and then maintain that loss). Win. That worked for me. It's not a cheat, it's not a reward, it's just food and one of life's simplest pleasures. Each to their own though. :flowerforyou:

Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?

Nope, exactly the opposite. One of the best things I did to help me be successful at losing (and maintaining) weight was to learn to eat (all) the foods I like in moderation.

Emporor_Augustus

Well it looks like I can't delete my posts, which I was going to but I can't find the delete button.

So, disregard my advice. I am in the minority here and am apparently an idiot. So eat the chocolate, I guess.

haleeloses

Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?

Not really. Not at all, I'd say. There's nothing defeatist about realizing you want something and then eating it. I hate the idea of "cheat" days or meals or treats, because that really sets you up to believe certain foods are evil and dangerous and you have to RESIST!! or you'll get fat again, which is an unhealthy relationship to have with food.

You want chocolate? Cool. Plan for it, eat it, log it, move on with your life. I eat chocolate all the time. I eat a lot of junk, actually. But I know my TDEE, my calorie goals and my macros, and I haven't had a single no loss week since I started losing. Balance is more important than ANYTHING else in weight loss. It'll never stay off otherwise.

I'm going to repost this since apparently some people missed when I wrote it the first time:

"Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?"

That makes total sense!!!!! And i think it's a great idea. I could probably use a bite of chocolate after almost killing myself on the treadmill tomorrow haha! I am definitely going to get through tonight without the chocolate, thanks for all of your kind replies. except for that one person who was being an *kitten*.

JesterMFP

Well it looks like I can't delete my posts, which I was going to but I can't find the delete button.

So, disregard my advice. I am in the minority here and am apparently an idiot. So eat the chocolate, I guess.

It's ok to have different opinions. Doesn't make you an idiot.

oxers

I'm going to repost this since apparently some people missed when I wrote it the first time:

"Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?"

I didn't miss it, hon, I just disagree with it. I disagree that food that fits into your macros and calorie goals is a "cheat." I disagree that you can "cheat" on what you put into your body. I disagree STRENUOUSLY that food should ever be a reward for good behavior, ever, and I disagree with anything that builds an unhealthy, unsustainable, restrictive relationship with food. p sure I made that clear.

AllOutof_Bubblegum

Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?

Not really. Not at all, I'd say. There's nothing defeatist about realizing you want something and then eating it. I hate the idea of "cheat" days or meals or treats, because that really sets you up to believe certain foods are evil and dangerous and you have to RESIST!! or you'll get fat again, which is an unhealthy relationship to have with food.

You want chocolate? Cool. Plan for it, eat it, log it, move on with your life. I eat chocolate all the time. I eat a lot of junk, actually. But I know my TDEE, my calorie goals and my macros, and I haven't had a single no loss week since I started losing. Balance is more important than ANYTHING else in weight loss. It'll never stay off otherwise.

I'm going to repost this since apparently some people missed when I wrote it the first time:

"Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?"

People didn't miss it. They just disagree, because it really doesn't make sense. Stop thinking of foods as "cheats" and it stops being "forbidden". Have a healthy relationship with food, it doesn't need to be "earned" as a prize or "withheld" as a punishment. That type of thinking is how disordered eating is developed.

ZombieEarhart

I have to plan my sweets. I just can't go and eat a piece of anything sweet right now because then maybe I won't stop LOL...so yes, I do so much better when I plan.

And that's totally cool! I get where you're coming from - end of the day, everything's already been planned, today was supposed to be a good strong deficit and you're just like "oh one bowl of gelato wouldn't hurt." Totally been there. I was just weighing in on the omnipresent argument on to cheat or not to cheat :]

Personally, I just had my last meal of the day and I have some wiggle room to play with, but I'm trying to decide if I want popcorn or a popsicle more. Hmmm. Maybe I'll just cross stitch or something instead.

I can't wait until I get to the point where I have better control over myself so i can splurge here and there within my calorie deficit! i get scared of ruining my whole day at this point. dang sugar...

I remember that feeling, but you won't ruin anything! Plan your day tomorrow right now, and plan in a small sugary treat. If you eat it and immediately turn into the cookie monster, then you take some deep yoga breaths and remind yourself that you can have more...the next day. I promise, eating something you enjoy in moderation will help you stick to your diet and reach your goals!

Best of luck

haleeloses

I have to plan my sweets. I just can't go and eat a piece of anything sweet right now because then maybe I won't stop LOL...so yes, I do so much better when I plan.

And that's totally cool! I get where you're coming from - end of the day, everything's already been planned, today was supposed to be a good strong deficit and you're just like "oh one bowl of gelato wouldn't hurt." Totally been there. I was just weighing in on the omnipresent argument on to cheat or not to cheat :]

Personally, I just had my last meal of the day and I have some wiggle room to play with, but I'm trying to decide if I want popcorn or a popsicle more. Hmmm. Maybe I'll just cross stitch or something instead.

I can't wait until I get to the point where I have better control over myself so i can splurge here and there within my calorie deficit! i get scared of ruining my whole day at this point. dang sugar...

I remember that feeling, but you won't ruin anything! Plan your day tomorrow right now, and plan in a small sugary treat. If you eat it and immediately turn into the cookie monster, then you take some deep yoga breaths and remind yourself that you can have more...the next day. I promise, eating something you enjoy in moderation will help you stick to your diet and reach your goals!

Best of luck

Thank you so much )))

AllOutof_Bubblegum

I'm going to repost this since apparently some people missed when I wrote it the first time:

"Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?"

I didn't miss it, hon, I just disagree with it. I disagree that food that fits into your macros and calorie goals is a "cheat." I disagree that you can "cheat" on what you put into your body. I disagree STRENUOUSLY that food should ever be a reward for good behavior, ever, and I disagree with anything that builds an unhealthy, unsustainable, restrictive relationship with food. p sure I made that clear.

jennifer_417

*kicks back and waits for the food porn*

TiffanyJole

Dudes, just have a small piece of chocolate. A Dove Promise is 44 calories, what's the big deal?

You're right, there's nothing inherently wrong with eating a small piece of chocolate, if you just eat the one piece and that's it. However, hear out my logic for why you shouldn't eat it right now.

Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.

Does that make sense?

You are awesome! I totally agree! Thank you for reminding me that I don't have to give in every time I want something that is contradicting to my goal.

Emporor_Augustus

*kitten*, I just realized the disconnect here. I'm really sorry guys.

My eating habits right now are for a weight CUT. Like, what fighters do when they're trying to make weight for a bout. Not general, long-term weight loss (that will come later). I'm specifically trying to lose quite a bit of weight in a short period of time right now, so even little things count. I can't justify putting extra sugar/fat into my system. Plus my trainer has given me the instructions that I based my advice on.

So again, my apologies.

haleeloses

*kicks back and waits for the food porn*

NOOOOOOOOOOO

ZombieEarhart

Well it looks like I can't delete my posts, which I was going to but I can't find the delete button.

So, disregard my advice. I am in the minority here and am apparently an idiot. So eat the chocolate, I guess.

You are not an idiot! Many people who would disagree with you, myself included, do so because we've been there, and thought that. When I started, I thought i had to cut out all sugary treats, all the things I had been overeating. It honestly didn't occur to me that I could be successful eating them in moderation. I didn't trust myself. Learning that I am, in fact, capable of controlling what i eat, and eating delicious foods in moderation, and staying within my calorie goal actually changed my life.

I disagree with you strenuously, but I don't think you're dumb. I do think you might be stuck in a mentality where food is the enemy, and that bums me out because I've been there.

haleeloses

*kitten*, I just realized the disconnect here. I'm really sorry guys.

My eating habits right now are for a weight CUT. Like, what fighters do when they're trying to make weight for a bout. Not general, long-term weight loss (that will come later). I'm specifically trying to lose quite a bit of weight in a short period of time right now, so even little things count. I can't justify putting extra sugar/fat into my system. Plus my trainer has given me the instructions that I based my advice on.

So again, my apologies.

No need to apologize...everyone is entitled to to their own opinions! You have to do what you need to do, and thank you for sharing what works for you.

SillaWinchester

Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?

YES. THIS.

And some people have a hard time with just eating one so it's best to avoid something for a while or for good. Everyone handles things differently.