I JUST WANT SOME CHOCOLAAAAAATE
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Instead of Losing weight you will gain more weight quickly by in taking chocolates
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I want caramel fudge ice cream. :sad:0
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Instead of Losing weight you will gain more weight quickly by in taking chocolates
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Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?
I am on a chocolate diet.
I get to eat chocolate AND loss weight.
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This thread made me really sad on two or three different levels.0
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You're right, there's nothing inherently wrong with eating a small piece of chocolate, if you just eat the one piece and that's it. However, hear out my logic for why you shouldn't eat it right now.Dudes, just have a small piece of chocolate. A Dove Promise is 44 calories, what's the big deal?
Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.
Does that make sense?
Something that fits into your calorie and macro goals is by definition, NOT a "cheat".
I agree with this. Viewing a piece of chocolate as a "cheat" to me is a defeatist attitude. To me it says that my relationship with food must be always that many, many foods are off limits and eating even one bite is cheating. I can't live like that forever, and I have to find an eating plan I can live with forever.0 -
Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?
Yup.
Here's the thing - if you want chocolate for any reason other than simply because you want to have a piece of chocolate the problem runs quite a bit deeper than you probably realize. Food is for fuel and for the pleasure of the food itself. If you crave chocolate as an antidote to stress, or as a reward or comfort then your relationship with food is off kilter.
Think of it this way - if you were saying "I WANT HEROIN!!!" would anyone be telling you to just have a little heroin? I doubt it. And yet sweet, salty and fatty foods - typical treats - trigger the exact same pleasure centers in the brain that are triggered by narcotics.
Does that mean you can never have chocolate again? Probably not. But if eating a piece of chocolate triggers a cascade of poor choices to follow or excessive indulgence then you might be someone, like me, who has to limit or eliminate your exposure to those foods in order to reprogram your brain to seek reward and comfort from things that are not food.
-Tex
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Also, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?
Yup.
Here's the thing - if you want chocolate for any reason other than simply because you want to have a piece of chocolate the problem runs quite a bit deeper than you probably realize. Food is for fuel and for the pleasure of the food itself. If you crave chocolate as an antidote to stress, or as a reward or comfort then your relationship with food is off kilter.
Think of it this way - if you were saying "I WANT HEROIN!!!" would anyone be telling you to just have a little heroin? I doubt it. And yet sweet, salty and fatty foods - typical treats - trigger the exact same pleasure centers in the brain that are triggered by narcotics.
Does that mean you can never have chocolate again? Probably not. But if eating a piece of chocolate triggers a cascade of poor choices to follow or excessive indulgence then you might be someone, like me, who has to limit or eliminate your exposure to those foods in order to reprogram your brain to seek reward and comfort from things that are not food.
-Tex
KPP
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Something that fits into your calorie and macro goals is by definition, NOT a "cheat".
I agree with this. Viewing a piece of chocolate as a "cheat" to me is a defeatist attitude. To me it says that my relationship with food must be always that many, many foods are off limits and eating even one bite is cheating. I can't live like that forever, and I have to find an eating plan I can live with forever.
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Yes, this is true. I don't "cheat" because that implies that I'm doing something bad. There is nothing inherently bad, from a nutritional standpoint, with treats. Chocolate (provided it's actual chocolate and not that filth Hershey's sells) is a lovely food. But it is a treat, not a staple.
Having a treat every now and then is fine. But if when you shop a portion of your cart is always occupied by candy, chips, cakes, cookies, etc. then you've turned these into staple items in your pantry, and if you stock up on them, you will eat them more often than you should. The primary difference between the way our parents ate and the way we do now is that our parents had cake if someone was having a birthday, or some other special occasion. Even as a kid candy came into the house on Easter and Halloween, and pretty much never any other time. A trip to the ice cream shop was a big deal, and I have fond, fond memories of those trips from my childhood. Today there are whole segments of your average major grocery store that are full of nothing but items our parents would have considered occasional purchases.
In my childhood my step-father worked for a company that did computer support for Pepsi-Co. He did an assignment at one of their bottling plants to rescue a database that had gotten corrupted in their accounting and inventory system. They were so grateful for his efforts to solve their problem that they sent him home one night with four flats of soda. Those four flats lasted us over a year because soda wasn't something we commonly drank. If we hadn't had a big 4th of July party that year I bet those flats would have lasted over two years. The last time I was at the market there was a woman in line in front of me who had four twelve-packs of soda in her cart. My mother would never have bought that. She would have seen it as a waste of money and bad for us, which it completely was and is.
My point is that the fundamental relationship towards food that most people have today is very broken. My parents told me when I was a kid, "You are what you eat." That's pretty spot-on wisdom. Your body needs food for fuel and raw material to repair and replaced damaged and worn-out tissue (also to synthesize hormones). Your diet ought to be mostly composed of things your body can use for these purposes in an obvious way. If you eat a chicken breast your body will take the protein from it and rebuild some muscles, connective tissues and organs with it. It will take the fat from it and use that to synthesize hormones from it, dissolve some vitamins (A, D, E and K, specifically) with it, and store a little for long term fuel. As Louis CK said in one of his comedy bits, if you eat a donut what the heck is your body going to make out of that, other than fat. Now if you confine yourself to one donut, probably no harm done. A little quick fuel from the simple carbohydrates. Eat four donuts though and basically you have left your body no choice but to build up some body fat.
Yeah, have a treat, but don't make a meal out of it. And don't do it all the time. It's called a treat because it's supposed to be special.
-Tex
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Haha! id like to lose 25-30 lbs in 100 days for a wedding and chocolate is my only weakness! so well done for resisting it! I'm just cutting it out altogether.
Sugar=FAT!0 -
peace out ya'll, i'm off to go to work so i can post gifs on someone's thread so i can be an *kitten* too!
You must be new. Give it a few months and you'll be doing it too.
Why though? Why can't people just help each other instead of putting them down? Never understood it...
wow really how is telling you chocolate isn't bad and you can eat it everyday day if it fits in your goals not helping and makes people *kitten*????
I eat chocolate everynight...everynight....and I will continue and it hasn't hampered my weight loss...hell I od'd on it Saturday night and still had 200 calories left after eating a 700 calorie breakfast and pizza for dinner...
Jeez...hangry folks0 -
when I am craving chocolate I have a protein bar
as long as it within your diet limits. 0 -
peace out ya'll, i'm off to go to work so i can post gifs on someone's thread so i can be an *kitten* too!
You must be new. Give it a few months and you'll be doing it too.
Why though? Why can't people just help each other instead of putting them down? Never understood it...
The thing to remember is that you don't "own" the thread, you just posted something on a public forum. What happens after that depends on the vagaries of who reads and who responds. You don't get to control other posters0 -
Craving guide, this is priceless information. But it can be yours for $19.95 plus $2.50 S&H.
AHAHAHAHA...... CRACKED ME UP THIS ONE! genius! bourbon to ease up broccoli cravings! ahahahaaaa.... just classic!
to the OP.... NO DONT EAT CHOCOLATE YET COZ YOU STILL HAVE some serious lbs. to lose, i dont mean that to offend what i meant is your foundation is still weak to go astray now, but for some people on this thread who's already been strong thru the challenges of hungry fangs, i salute you for being able to find the right balance for your lifestyle.... IIFYM/ FLEXIBLE DIETING ALL THE WAY! 0 -
Haha! id like to lose 25-30 lbs in 100 days for a wedding and chocolate is my only weakness! so well done for resisting it! I'm just cutting it out altogether.
Sugar=FAT!
TOOOOOO MUCH SUGAR = STORED ENERGY = FAT ;P0 -
Have it(singular)
Log it
Work it off!
Good luck
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I just ate mine.
Having said that, it was the chocolate I got for Easter, I split it into 30g bags and I still have 3 bags left out of the 3 Rabbits I got.
So I call that a victory, who knew Easter could last a month!
Woohoo. And I still have calories to spare.
Thank you 12,000 steps today :P0 -
I had chocolate last night. I do not use food as a reward, because I am not a dog.
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Haha! id like to lose 25-30 lbs in 100 days for a wedding and chocolate is my only weakness! so well done for resisting it! I'm just cutting it out altogether.
Sugar=FAT!
TOOOOOO MUCH FOOD= STORED ENERGY = FAT ;P
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It's 44 calories., Would you be advising the OP to avoid 44 calories of tofu, or banana?
You're right, there's nothing inherently wrong with eating a small piece of chocolate, if you just eat the one piece and that's it. However, hear out my logic for why you shouldn't eat it right now.Dudes, just have a small piece of chocolate. A Dove Promise is 44 calories, what's the big deal?
Of course cheats are okay. We'd probably go insane without them. But a cheat shouldn't be used as a flimsy justification to give up on the thing you're trying to accomplish (presumably weight loss). The cheat should be a reward, a treat for yourself, something you EARN. If you just give up and have a "cheat" every time your willpower is low, you'll never get to where you want to be. If you can get through tonight with no chocolate, that's a win for you. If tomorrow you eat nice and clean and maybe do a workout, then REWARD yourself with the chocolate.
Does that make sense?0 -
When you have a milk allergy it's very easy to avoid chocolate. I can eat many one chocolate bar of a certain brand of dark chocolate. And it's expensive. And I love chocolate. I feel your pain.0
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Did somebody say....CHOCOLATE?
In all seriousness though, the Wendy's chocolate frosty I had last night was like 290 calories. It's easier to work treats in than everyone thinks.0 -
I'm a chocoholic, so I can sympathize.
You want chocolate.
You've probably planned ahead and allowed for a "treat" or two in your diet plan, right?
Alrighty!
Get out your best placemat.
Set it on your table.
Light a candle..
Put your one piece of chocolate on a lovely china plate.
Make yourself a cup of hot tea.
Pour it into your nicest (warmed up) china cup.
Sit down.
Slowly sip the tea, nibble the chocolate.
Savor it.
Dab your lips with a nice cloth napkin.
(drinking something hot with a dessert will extend the appreciation and the experience)
If you're going to do it, make the most of the experience.
Plan ahead.
Ditch the guilt.
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do you have chocolate around you? if so... and if you reaaally want some... eat a tiny bit and literally just toss the rest in the kitchen trash or melt it in the sink or something. that way you're not tempted to eat more. i love just letting a little piece melt on my mouth (usually with a milk chocolate almond hershey kiss!) but if ihave access to more than one in a small amount of time i tend to have... erm... way too many :P0
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Well, most people already showed lots of wisdom here by recommending moderation.
Treating food as a reward, something forbidden, evil sounds completely unhealthy. You give those types of food a power they're not supposed to have over you. They're supposed to make you feel nourished and why not, happy
I had this guilt over chips, then I started weighing my food and fit chips whenever I felt like it. Since then it's become something I learned to eat in moderation, I feel no more guilt and honestly, these days, it's something I don't eat as often anymore. It was, for me, maybe like I faced my "fear" and now I'm done with it. Chips don't control me anymore - I know, sounds silly and it was.
And ever since I learned that I can fit any food into my macros here on MFP, I actually eat chocolate way more often than before cos I have no "fear" of it. I enjoy it a lot more having delicious stuff in my diet knowing that I can still lose weight.
Also, how can you exercise moderation at something if you don't just do it? I never really got this diet mentality of restricting yourself and then reintroducing it later. Wouldn't it be more logical to practice moderation at eating chocolate by actually eating it sometimes?
Like most people said, it's all about moderation.0 -
Here's the thing - if you want chocolate for any reason other than simply because you want to have a piece of chocolate the problem runs quite a bit deeper than you probably realize.
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Dude, then just eat chocolate.Unless you have some sort of medical issue where it will kill you. work it into your caloric goals, and eat the damn chocolate. My god it's not rocket science.0
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Have it(singular)
Log it
Work it off!
Good luck
Good advice
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I just had a Quest Double Chocolate Chunk protein bar for breakfast. 160 cal, 20g protein, 16g fiber, 1g sugar. totally guilt free, and it will be awhile before I want chocolate or sweets again.0
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Double facepalmAlso, to all the people in here saying, "Just eat chocolate" -- isn't that kind of a defeatist attitude in a forum called General Diet and Weight LOSS Help?
Yup.
Here's the thing - if you want chocolate for any reason other than simply because you want to have a piece of chocolate the problem runs quite a bit deeper than you probably realize. Food is for fuel and for the pleasure of the food itself. If you crave chocolate as an antidote to stress, or as a reward or comfort then your relationship with food is off kilter.
Think of it this way - if you were saying "I WANT HEROIN!!!" would anyone be telling you to just have a little heroin? I doubt it. And yet sweet, salty and fatty foods - typical treats - trigger the exact same pleasure centers in the brain that are triggered by narcotics.
Does that mean you can never have chocolate again? Probably not. But if eating a piece of chocolate triggers a cascade of poor choices to follow or excessive indulgence then you might be someone, like me, who has to limit or eliminate your exposure to those foods in order to reprogram your brain to seek reward and comfort from things that are not food.
-Tex
KPP
Facepalm
AAAAAAAAAAAAND now head to desk :noway:
Craving guide, this is priceless information. But it can be yours for $19.95 plus $2.50 S&H.
AHAHAHAHA...... CRACKED ME UP THIS ONE! genius! bourbon to ease up broccoli cravings! ahahahaaaa.... just classic!
to the OP.... NO DONT EAT CHOCOLATE YET COZ YOU STILL HAVE some serious lbs. to lose, i dont mean that to offend what i meant is your foundation is still weak to go astray now, but for some people on this thread who's already been strong thru the challenges of hungry fangs, i salute you for being able to find the right balance for your lifestyle.... IIFYM/ FLEXIBLE DIETING ALL THE WAY!0
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