Government should mandate accuracy of MFP database
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You got me there no doubt, you better pm me a video of you twerking for clarification just to be surethey should moderate my PM's too. I can't think of anything the government can't do better than me. 'cept maybe twerk?
Well technically I guess she is only the first lady so you do have a point.
Yes, and he may have a point too, but that's neither here nor there. Well, actually it's there. It's definitely not here, I'd know.
I would be remiss though if I did not clarify a glaring point in your argument. That is not twerking, it's a lapdance. Might be grinding too, but not twerking by it's strictest definition.
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This is easy to rectify. If you feel the site is too inaccurate for you, LEAVE!!!0
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So, are you saying that the rest of the world's food options should be left out because it's an American-based company? Or do you have a plan where the US government talks to other governments of the world to ensure the accuracy of their food products too?
Under your plan, would there be any way for people to add in their own recipes/food types?
Foreigners can make their own MFP. Or their own laws. Why should I care about some fool in Germany and his strudel eating habits?
MFP should be required to validate those entries, particularly sushi. And bad sushi entry makers banned from all you can eat places.
Wow American Arrogance at it's best. Not all countries have the funds you idiot. So do you have friends or are all your friend's on you FL American? You might learn something from looking outside of your country and it's self-centered ways of living. You might find your country is not the best maybe? Just a thought.
Thanks for the name calling. Lol. I'm not American.
Why are you acting like you are then lol.
I stand by what I said though, America might have the funds etc but a lot of countries don't, this has happened a few times with other systems in the past. I doesn't end well for some countries who get left out in the cold.
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Murica!! Whoo!0
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You got me there no doubt, you better pm me a video of you twerking for clarification just to be surethey should moderate my PM's too. I can't think of anything the government can't do better than me. 'cept maybe twerk?
Well technically I guess she is only the first lady so you do have a point.
Yes, and he may have a point too, but that's neither here nor there. Well, actually it's there. It's definitely not here, I'd know.
I would be remiss though if I did not clarify a glaring point in your argument. That is not twerking, it's a lapdance. Might be grinding too, but not twerking by it's strictest definition.
Why do you need to be sure? I'm already sure.0 -
You got me there no doubt, you better pm me a video of you twerking for clarification just to be surethey should moderate my PM's too. I can't think of anything the government can't do better than me. 'cept maybe twerk?
Well technically I guess she is only the first lady so you do have a point.
Yes, and he may have a point too, but that's neither here nor there. Well, actually it's there. It's definitely not here, I'd know.
I would be remiss though if I did not clarify a glaring point in your argument. That is not twerking, it's a lapdance. Might be grinding too, but not twerking by it's strictest definition.
Why do you need to be sure? I'm already sure.
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The MFP database is a self-regulating system. Inaccuracies, in theory, will be sorted out every time foods are reverified. Government mandates means hiring employees to manually verify the contents of the database. This is in itself a huge undertaking, but when you consider that the website is privately-owned, there is absolutely no incentive for ANY government to do so.
Or, they could just buy it and let it slowly fall apart due to a lack of funding, in which case we'd be even worse off because the ability for users to generate their own content, i.e. add and verify nutritional information, would be gone but there would not be enough funding to reliably keep the database updated. That would be a lose-lose.
Of course, you may not be serious about that desire of yours. I have my fingers crossed.
But they are not, inaccuracies are added and the information improvement paradigm requires the the quality of the information add is better than than the quality of the core data. It's just not the case.
If that were the case, everything on Wikipedia would read "**** **** **** lol **** **** **** ****." Erroneous data gets ironed out longitudinally, even if it may take a while and even if the current state of data is never 100% representative of the ideal.
Only when the editing process is managed. Wikipedia like editing here would be useful. It just isn't so, one can't flag ones entries, follow up, etc....
I can agree with you that the current level of user-guided corrections to the database are a lot lower than we should have, but in theory, the law of large numbers would sort out the anomalies if we simply had a greater sample size, i.e. people actually vetting their own nutritional information. But we don't, so it's still not an ideal situation.
Encouraging more individual participation is exponentially easier than government involvement though. And yes, I realize this is a troll, but it's an interesting discussion nonetheless.
Edit: To everyone else, do you not understand hyperbole when you read it? Inject a chill shot.
Ok, I honestly did not know it was troll cos I have seen people be serious about this stuff a lot as have others, also if you have a whole bunch of people in one place from all around the world think about the differing cultural filters this is going through. Perhaps you need to inject a little social and cultural awareness?
But now that I went away and come back to see it, I know it's a person who be trolling. Thanks for letting us all know. :laugh: :laugh: :noway:0 -
The site resides in America and is run by an American company.
Perhaps "corporate social responsibility" should come into play. They could have the goal of having the most accurate and comprehensive database available without any government nonsense.
In a similar way they could improve spam control on the forums.
Perhaps social media pressure is a route to consider.....0 -
Perhaps this is social pressure.
The force of ridicule and all that.
And to the blue haired lady, the info is there, right in my profile.
And I still thing that quality governance isn't a far fetched idea. We will see it in our lifetimes in many fields due to immaterials goods and the human cost they can engender. Mfp? Small fry.
Police yourself, or wait for the Man to do it.0 -
No mandating!
Sometimes I just need the option to put in 55 calories for a cookie I know has well over a hundred.
Because it just feels right that day.
Morale for the troops.0 -
Perhaps this is social pressure.
The force of ridicule and all that.
Indeed, but it's internal. Something the mainstream media or investors / customers see on Twitter / Facebook tends to reach a larger / perhaps more relevant audience than those already invested in using the service.0 -
So, are you saying that the rest of the world's food options should be left out because it's an American-based company? Or do you have a plan where the US government talks to other governments of the world to ensure the accuracy of their food products too?
Under your plan, would there be any way for people to add in their own recipes/food types?
Foreigners can make their own MFP. Or their own laws. Why should I care about some fool in Germany and his strudel eating habits?
MFP should be required to validate those entries, particularly sushi. And bad sushi entry makers banned from all you can eat places.
Wow American Arrogance at it's best. Not all countries have the funds you idiot. So do you have friends or are all your friend's on you FL American? You might learn something from looking outside of your country and it's self-centered ways of living. You might find your country is not the best maybe? Just a thought.
People from countries where blue hair is allowed need not weigh in on this discussion. Please and thank you.
What about people with blue faces? How will we manage the UK poor-imitation mock-MFP if Scotland votes for independence this September? Will we see only empty spaces on all those Burns Nights when we found haggis in our local supermarket, took it home, donned a tartan blanket in our kitchens, took more than one wee dram of whisky and impersonated Mel Gibson all night long?
FREEDOM!! (to eat deep-fried Mars bars south of the border if we so wish...)0 -
People should take ownership - it's your own responsibility to ensure that your logging is correct.
Common sense and google are your friends ( if they'll have you).0 -
Typische amerikanische Arroganz!0
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I think we're done here. Move along.
For your health!!!0 -
So, are you saying that the rest of the world's food options should be left out because it's an American-based company? Or do you have a plan where the US government talks to other governments of the world to ensure the accuracy of their food products too?
Under your plan, would there be any way for people to add in their own recipes/food types?
Foreigners can make their own MFP. Or their own laws. Why should I care about some fool in Germany and his strudel eating habits?
MFP should be required to validate those entries, particularly sushi. And bad sushi entry makers banned from all you can eat places.
Wow American Arrogance at it's best. Not all countries have the funds you idiot. So do you have friends or are all your friend's on you FL American? You might learn something from looking outside of your country and it's self-centered ways of living. You might find your country is not the best maybe? Just a thought.
People from countries where blue hair is allowed need not weigh in on this discussion. Please and thank you.
Hey I didn't realise it was a troll till later, no need to single me out lol. There are cultural differences you know.
I really don't know how I could live without having to convert things into grams all the time tbh. Or the amount of people who don't understand Aussie/Kiwi style sarcasm or humour, what would I do. *sigh*
ETA: It's not blue btw, it's turquoise!!! :grumble:
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Typische amerikanische Arroganz!
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The only thing MFP "needs to do" is get better coders... I cannot believe how many bugs are routinely, unapologetically released to production. The current Chief Tech Officer is most likely a rabid monkey with a plastic knock-off of Thor's hammer.0
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Government should mandate the death penalty for MFP trolls.
And for people without a sense of humour and/or irony.
I notice this too; no offense but that guy needs an iron for the shirt.0 -
Okay folks before this thread is locked; look at who started the thread. Troll? No. Go to his page and read the links; if you need damn near anything health and fitness related it is there. I'm wondering if people have any idea when someone is having fun or not. Happy Wednesday everybody.0
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The question is which government should mandate the accuracy, given it's a globally used website/app...
The site resides in America and is run by an American company.
The site "resides" in America? Oooooh Where? We should go TP it's front yard:laugh:0 -
Okay folks before this thread is locked; look at who started the thread. Troll? No. Go to his page and read the links; if you need damn near anything health and fitness related it is there. I'm wondering if people have any idea when someone is having fun or not. Happy Wednesday everybody.
It's really hard to say, he himself said he was half trolling. Also it is really hard to read people's intentions. As for the diversity in backgrounds...0 -
Now that would be helpful.
:laugh: I like you. But don't squeeze free.0 -
Typische amerikanische Arroganz!
Vielleicht!0 -
Okay folks before this thread is locked; look at who started the thread. Troll? No. Go to his page and read the links; if you need damn near anything health and fitness related it is there. I'm wondering if people have any idea when someone is having fun or not. Happy Wednesday everybody.
It's really hard to say, he himself said he was half trolling. Also it is really hard to read people's intentions. As for the diversity in backgrounds...
Poe's Law. C'est la chose parfois.0 -
I'm hungry for strudel now....0
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No......."the market" should mandate accuracy on this site. If one assumes that an inaccurate database makes people leave the site, then it benefits the site to make things accurate. Unfortunately, the typical OCD or addictive personality member may not really care.0
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I do what I want, yo!! 0
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In...
...and great.
Now I want strudels.0 -
Think, people... remember something called A JOKE?0
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