Government should mandate accuracy of MFP database

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  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Less government!!! Leave me and my inaccuracy alone!

    Dichotomy fallacy. We just need a more efficient government. You can haz both less govt. and more accuracy.

    Assuming you are from the US, is that the government which allows pizza for breakfast in schools, classes tomato ketchup as a portion of fruit and that gives kids high sugar chocolate milk as a good source of protein?

    Assuming you really haven't read the rest of this short thread...

    Are you going to mandate that I do that as well or just answer/ignore the comment appropriately?

    I'll answer/ignore appropriately.
  • Strokingdiction
    Strokingdiction Posts: 1,164 Member
    Less government!!! Leave me and my inaccuracy alone!

    Dichotomy fallacy. We just need a more efficient government. You can haz both less govt. and more accuracy.

    Assuming you are from the US, is that the government which allows pizza for breakfast in schools, classes tomato ketchup as a portion of fruit and that gives kids high sugar chocolate milk as a good source of protein?

    Assuming you really haven't read the rest of this short thread...

    Are you going to mandate that I do that as well or just answer/ignore the comment appropriately?

    I'll do answer/ignore appropriately.

    This is killing me! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • eldamiano
    eldamiano Posts: 2,667 Member
    Less government!!! Leave me and my inaccuracy alone!

    Dichotomy fallacy. We just need a more efficient government. You can haz both less govt. and more accuracy.

    Assuming you are from the US, is that the government which allows pizza for breakfast in schools, classes tomato ketchup as a portion of fruit and that gives kids high sugar chocolate milk as a good source of protein?

    Assuming you really haven't read the rest of this short thread...

    Are you going to mandate that I do that as well or just answer/ignore the comment appropriately?

    I'll answer/ignore appropriately.

    Probably the best thing you have done since your first comment....
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Less government!!! Leave me and my inaccuracy alone!

    Dichotomy fallacy. We just need a more efficient government. You can haz both less govt. and more accuracy.

    Assuming you are from the US, is that the government which allows pizza for breakfast in schools, classes tomato ketchup as a portion of fruit and that gives kids high sugar chocolate milk as a good source of protein?

    Assuming you really haven't read the rest of this short thread...

    Are you going to mandate that I do that as well or just answer/ignore the comment appropriately?

    I'll answer/ignore appropriately.

    Probably the best thing you have done since your first comment....
    To answer or to ignore?


    And dude, if you are hangry, may I suggest the German strudel?
  • Yagisama
    Yagisama Posts: 595 Member
    I think it's a valiant effort to want to make the government mandate the accuracy of MFP databases.

    However, it would mean the end of the "crowd sourcing" nature of the MFP database as it is. Not only would there be concerns of liability in that case, some foods would not meet high enough sample sizes for their data to be regarded as reasonably accurate.

    The MFP database would also be divided into custom and reference foods. All custom meals would be private since there could be countless variations.

    The database would then have to query every major manufacturer and acquire nutritional information for every product. Some of this could be automated but some would require manual input. If a product is not available in the database, a user can send a request to have it be included. Once a month the MFP database would have to be updated.

    The government would audit the MFP database much like surprise restaurant inspections. If the database is found to be wanting, then fines could be imposed.

    Personally, I think this effort would put an unreasonable burden on MFP and could be detrimental to its existence with very little gained for the average user, but I can appreciate the OPs point of view and I know his heart is in the right place.
  • shapefitter
    shapefitter Posts: 900 Member
    I live in UK, and most of the food items that I found logged on MFP, are either out of date, or wrong. I have now changed to shopping at Aldi, as I found most items are logged correctly. Morrisons shoppers, are the worst to logg.
  • eldamiano
    eldamiano Posts: 2,667 Member
    Less government!!! Leave me and my inaccuracy alone!

    Dichotomy fallacy. We just need a more efficient government. You can haz both less govt. and more accuracy.

    Assuming you are from the US, is that the government which allows pizza for breakfast in schools, classes tomato ketchup as a portion of fruit and that gives kids high sugar chocolate milk as a good source of protein?

    Assuming you really haven't read the rest of this short thread...

    Are you going to mandate that I do that as well or just answer/ignore the comment appropriately?

    I'll answer/ignore appropriately.

    Probably the best thing you have done since your first comment....
    To answer or to ignore?


    And dude, if you are hangry, may I suggest the German strudel?

    (you didnt ignore as you keep feeling compelled to respond)

    I will try the German strudel once the EU puts a directive on its sugar loads. Or would that be just a bit fairy-like?
    Would do but t
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Less government!!! Leave me and my inaccuracy alone!

    Dichotomy fallacy. We just need a more efficient government. You can haz both less govt. and more accuracy.

    Assuming you are from the US, is that the government which allows pizza for breakfast in schools, classes tomato ketchup as a portion of fruit and that gives kids high sugar chocolate milk as a good source of protein?

    Assuming you really haven't read the rest of this short thread...

    Are you going to mandate that I do that as well or just answer/ignore the comment appropriately?

    I'll answer/ignore appropriately.

    Probably the best thing you have done since your first comment....
    To answer or to ignore?


    And dude, if you are hangry, may I suggest the German strudel?

    (you didnt ignore as you keep feeling compelled to respond)

    I will try the German strudel once the EU puts a directive on its sugar loads. Or would that be just a bit fairy-like?
    Would do but t

    There is a fairy named Strudel, not sure she has anything to do with this.
    And did you have a heart attack or stroke before finishing your post? Should we call 112?
  • RHachicho
    RHachicho Posts: 1,115 Member
    would you like the government to wipe your *kitten* too ?
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    would you like the government to wipe your *kitten* too ?

    Why does the proposal make you so upset? Have some strudel.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I live in UK, and most of the food items that I found logged on MFP, are either out of date, or wrong. I have now changed to shopping at Aldi, as I found most items are logged correctly. Morrisons shoppers, are the worst to logg.

    I live in the US and have made the same determination of a lot of the US-centric foods too. The accuracy of the MFP database is frightening.

    Obviously the free market has failed in this particular instance.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I live in UK, and most of the food items that I found logged on MFP, are either out of date, or wrong. I have now changed to shopping at Aldi, as I found most items are logged correctly. Morrisons shoppers, are the worst to logg.

    I live in the US and have made the same determination of a lot of the US-centric foods too. The accuracy of the MFP database is frightening.

    Obviously the free market has failed in this particular instance.

    Given enough time and enough monkeys....
  • Strokingdiction
    Strokingdiction Posts: 1,164 Member
    I live in UK, and most of the food items that I found logged on MFP, are either out of date, or wrong. I have now changed to shopping at Aldi, as I found most items are logged correctly. Morrisons shoppers, are the worst to logg.

    I live in the US and have made the same determination of a lot of the US-centric foods too. The accuracy of the MFP database is frightening.

    Obviously the free market has failed in this particular instance.

    Given enough time and enough monkeys....

    Did Shakespeare count calories?
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I live in UK, and most of the food items that I found logged on MFP, are either out of date, or wrong. I have now changed to shopping at Aldi, as I found most items are logged correctly. Morrisons shoppers, are the worst to logg.

    I live in the US and have made the same determination of a lot of the US-centric foods too. The accuracy of the MFP database is frightening.

    Obviously the free market has failed in this particular instance.

    Given enough time and enough monkeys....

    Did Shakespeare count calories?

    Maybe not, but he was into fat shaming.

    "Thou are as fat as butter" ...
  • FireOpalCO
    FireOpalCO Posts: 641 Member
    I don't have time to read the whole thread right now, but I would be willing to pay a yearly fee for MFP in exchange for a better database. Someone needs to zap the bad entries (like the ones with cappuccino misspelled).
  • Strokingdiction
    Strokingdiction Posts: 1,164 Member
    I live in UK, and most of the food items that I found logged on MFP, are either out of date, or wrong. I have now changed to shopping at Aldi, as I found most items are logged correctly. Morrisons shoppers, are the worst to logg.

    I live in the US and have made the same determination of a lot of the US-centric foods too. The accuracy of the MFP database is frightening.

    Obviously the free market has failed in this particular instance.

    Given enough time and enough monkeys....

    Did Shakespeare count calories?

    Maybe not, but he was into fat shaming.

    "Thou are as fat as butter" ...

    First Chaucer, now Shakespeare? Historical figures were fat shaming d**ks.
  • I read the first page of comments and decided to reply to this. With that said, I think what the OP might would like a national or world wide registry of products & nutrition facts that companies like MFP could use to ensure accurate nutritional information. This won't happen largely because a great many companies rely on the masses being ignorant about what they're eating and how horrible it is for them. Making such information freely available would be a bad business choice on their part. Not that I care a lick about that.

    MFP did what any reasonable company would do in this scenario....they made their own and are letting their users crowd source the data. While it would be superb if we had a guarantee that all data at MFP was 100% accurate, the mere idea of regulation defies the crowd sourcing nature of the site. Users add foods and nutritional facts and other users have the option to yay or nay those details. I find that something that's been confirmed by 5 or more people is generally more reliable than my own memory of a discarded microwaveable's nutrition facts or something my search turned up that has 0 confirmations.

    Even more than all of that, MyFitnessPal is a business operating in the United States of America. The government shouldn't have any say at all in how MFP choses to operate it's site, apps, or general day to day operations.

    Lastly...since when has government mandates ever helped enforce accuracy? We're talking about a government (in the US at least) that can't even balance it's budget or grasp the concept that you need to make more than you spend to thrive.

    I can appreciate the intent, but the solution is wrong.
  • TX_Rhon
    TX_Rhon Posts: 1,549 Member
    Did Shakespeare count calories?

    No! He counted 'the ways'!!!

    Do you even Shakespear??
  • looseseal
    looseseal Posts: 216 Member
    Government should mandate accuracy of MFP database

    The hell it should.

    :noway:
  • LoupGarouTFTs
    LoupGarouTFTs Posts: 916 Member
    The only thing MFP "needs to do" is get better coders... I cannot believe how many bugs are routinely, unapologetically released to production. The current Chief Tech Officer is most likely a rabid monkey with a plastic knock-off of Thor's hammer.

    The government could have the same people who worked on Healthcare.gov fix MFP. Think it would help?