Giving your body no choice but to burn fat daily

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

    Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

    http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php
    So most journals of medicine and science will agree about .08 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. I think you mixed the .08 gram with 8 grams total. Understandable mistake. Now about that hot tub cardio...................

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    Didin't it say 0.8 not 0.08 grams per KG? of she would be close as you would have to weight 100kgs to get 8 grams of protien if you only needed .08, but 0.8 would be 80 grams.
    Sorry, I put in too many zeros. My bad. 0.8 is CORRECT.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • tmpecus78
    tmpecus78 Posts: 1,206 Member
    How is sitting in a hot tub considered cardio? :huh:

    i'm glad i'm not the only one who caught this.

    I want to meet the person who sits in a hot tub for 60 minutes for the express purpose of burning 50 calories.

    I think its safe to say that the only cardio happening in a hot tub is sex. :wink: :laugh: Now with that being said, who wants do some cardio? :drinker:
  • Lisa1971
    Lisa1971 Posts: 3,069 Member
    This is what I have done to turn myself into a fat burning machine!

    1. Nutrition.

    When you starve your body of the nutrients it needs it goes into starvation mode. You can be eating like a king yet still starve your body of the nutrients it needs to sustain itself. I suggest adding fruits and vegetables to your daily diet. Fruits should be kept more of a energizing type snack or as a breakfast (which is when lots of us need energy). Vegetables should be at least half of one of your daily meals, but better if it's in two meals. Also lower your animal meat consumption. It's medically proven we ingest too much protein in our diets and it has lead to some awful diseases, but at the very least it contains animal fat. So just think of it as lowering your fat intake.

    2. Calorie intake

    We hear so much flip flop about the importance of calories, but I would just like to say calorie intake is very important. A woman can take in just 10 extra calories a day and gain a pound a year. This means a 5 lbs a year gain is from eating 50 extra calories a day--which is incredibly easy to do with most diets. An average person needs approx 2,000 calories a day. If you want to promote fat burning, you must take in less calories than what your body needs. If you take in too little of calories, you place your body in starvation mode. There are caloric intake charts and generators all over the internet that will help you figure out what your daily calorie intake should be (https://www.exercise.com/tools/bmr-calculator). Personally I have been easy on myself and gave myself a 1,200 to 1,850 calorie intake limit. I have to take in more than 1,200 but no more than 1,850. This way I am not storing fat and I am forcing my body to burn fat to meet it's caloric needs.

    3. Build Muscle

    Fat is food for muscles. The more muscle you build, the more your calorie intake needs will be. So now all of a sudden a 2,000 calorie need is more like 2,300 but you keep your intake to under 2,000, you will increase your daily fat burning.

    4. Cardio

    I hate cardio more than anything! but no one can deny it's fat burning abilities. Adding some cardio a few times a week will also promote extra fat burning, but will not burn fat daily unless performed daily. It is not needed to see results, but will add to the results. If you have a hot tub, try at least sitting in that as often as possible for some light cardio.

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  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

    And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


    In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"


    Want to talk about DISRESPECTFUL!?! Have you ever even MET a mentally handicapped person!? If you did you probably wouldn't use the term Retard in a derogatory manner.

    So please check yo' self before ya wreck yo' self!

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    Digging for reasons to insult me? Does it make you feel like a better person now?

    Did you feel like a better person calling everyone "retarded"?
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)

    Says the OP that called everyone the "R" word.
  • histora
    histora Posts: 287 Member
    Op, you keep saying you're gonna cut and run, but then come back to tell us how mean and horrible we are.

    You could stop stomping your feet and listen to everyone trying to point out why you're getting this visual crapstorm and then adjust...

    ...or you can keep coming back, telling us we are all doodyheads who hurt your feelings, and then swearing you will leave now.

    And then come back.

    I rescind my flounce score. You came back.This isn't a boomerang.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)

    So no apology for using the r-word then?
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)
    misinformation is the worlds problem. just because we proved you wrong (and had a little fun while we were doing it:wink: :
    you only heard insults because your blinded by your pride to hear the criticism.

    thank you for learning that you cant help people here
  • April_KT
    April_KT Posts: 332 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)

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  • bannedword
    bannedword Posts: 299 Member
    How is sitting in a hot tub considered cardio? :huh:

    i'm glad i'm not the only one who caught this.

    I want to meet the person who sits in a hot tub for 60 minutes for the express purpose of burning 50 calories.

    I think its safe to say that the only cardio happening in a hot tub is sex. :wink: :laugh: Now with that being said, who wants do some cardio? :drinker:

    60 minutes?
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)

    Says the OP that called everyone the "R" word.


    And a-holes. And then thinks everyone that asked her for sources on where she got her info is "childish."
  • Strokingdiction
    Strokingdiction Posts: 1,164 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)


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    Excited to see future "people are mean" thread.
  • _Pseudonymous_
    _Pseudonymous_ Posts: 1,671 Member
    I'm really sorry you guys feel the need to turn someone's success story tips into your own troll-a-thon. Seriously, find something better to do, like working on your poor attitudes. I have just realized this community is full of disrespectful jerks and no longer would like to be a part of it. Enjoy your days and fill yourselves with pride, you have earned it... obviously.

    And instead of questioning what I wrote, why don't you do a little research.


    In the words of yoda "A bunch of retards you are"


    Want to talk about DISRESPECTFUL!?! Have you ever even MET a mentally handicapped person!? If you did you probably wouldn't use the term Retard in a derogatory manner.

    So please check yo' self before ya wreck yo' self!

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    Digging for reasons to insult me? Does it make you feel like a better person now?

    First of all, I was not insulting you, I was trying to correct you and point out your fallacy in by pointing out your equally disrespectful attitude.

    As for digging for reasons? No, I just have a personal vendetta against the use of that word seeing as my day job is working for a company that is under DADS (The Department of Aging and Disabilities Services) and MHMR (Mental Health and Mental Retardation) of Texas and don't appreciate that. The last line was simply to try and make light of the situation and to defuse my personal offense of the derogatory use of "Retard".

    I work with people who suffer from Down Syndrome and Mental Retardation 5 days a week and care about them 365 days a year.

    So to answer your question, YES, I do feel like a better person in this instance. The question is do YOU feel like a better person?
  • TriShamelessly
    TriShamelessly Posts: 905 Member
    How am I seeing results, consistent results to my findings if it's all bull****?

    You're seeing results because you're in a calorie deficit. Congrats on that. However, much of the information that you originally posted has been proven false time and again. Search the forums and you will see similar posts. As you're a relative newbie to MFP, please also accept that most folks are trying to educate you in proper nutrition although the way in which they do so may offend you. So, respectfully, read what you want, but understand that those of us who have been here awhile will quickly call you out on bad info. Best wishes for continued success.
  • MissJenniLee
    MissJenniLee Posts: 108 Member
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

    Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

    http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php
    So most journals of medicine and science will agree about .08 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. I think you mixed the .08 gram with 8 grams total. Understandable mistake. Now about that hot tub cardio...................

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    Didin't it say 0.8 not 0.08 grams per KG? of she would be close as you would have to weight 100kgs to get 8 grams of protien if you only needed .08, but 0.8 would be 80 grams.
    Sorry, I put in too many zeros. My bad. 0.8 is CORRECT.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.olympichottub.com/health/cardiovascular.html
  • Mistizoom
    Mistizoom Posts: 578 Member
    This is what I have done to turn myself into a fat burning machine: eat fat.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    How am I seeing results, consistent results to my findings if it's all bull****?

    Simple. You have consistently ate at a deficit for a given period of time.

    But I feel better than ever...

    Well who could argue with that kind of scientific evidence?

    Why would you argue my personal experience?


    Why would any of you bother to read this or post if its all hokey? Was it your goal to make me feel terrible?

    you're going to take your lumps for the OP. but keep an open mind and don't take it personally. take this as an opportunity to learn. the things you're doing aren't necessarily all wrong. some of them work, but for different reasons than you think. some of them have no effect. and some things you're doing should be changed so that you can optimize your own results.

    so laugh when you can. ask for clarifications. don't take it personally. don't get defensive. we all started with some misplaced notions about weight loss, nutrition, and fitness when we started. it's not a crime to be wrong. it's only a crime to refuse to change your views when presented with evidence that they are not correct.

    some of the people who you might think are huge jerks right now would actually be more than happy to point you in the right direction to find peer-reviewed science that you can read for your own enlightenment and would be happy to answer any questions you still have, until you're satisfied that maybe what they're saying is correct afterall.

    i don't mean this to sound patronizing either. you're new here. you posted some stuff that has been posted and debunked many times before. the response you're getting is a sort of "whack-a-mole" response to the need to keep rebutting bad information on the forums. if you understand this, it's easier to not see these as personal attacks.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

    Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

    http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php

    From the ncbi link you posted: "Recent epidemiological, isotopic and meta-analysis studies suggest that dietary protein works synergistically with calcium to improve calcium retention and bone metabolism. The recommendation to intentionally restrict dietary protein to improve bone health is unwarranted, and potentially even dangerous to those individuals who consume inadequate protein."

    I'm going to say it's safe to say that your other sources are not worth reading because A. You didn't read even one of them correctly and B. They are websites with an agenda.

    Kudos to you for at least trying. You might want to try reading a little more carefully next time.
  • Strokingdiction
    Strokingdiction Posts: 1,164 Member
    How is sitting in a hot tub considered cardio? :huh:

    i'm glad i'm not the only one who caught this.

    I want to meet the person who sits in a hot tub for 60 minutes for the express purpose of burning 50 calories.

    I think its safe to say that the only cardio happening in a hot tub is sex. :wink: :laugh: Now with that being said, who wants do some cardio? :drinker:

    Sex in a hot tub in no bueno but for the sanitation of the tub and for biological reasons.
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member

    4. Cardio

    I hate cardio more than anything! but no one can deny it's fat burning abilities. Adding some cardio a few times a week will also promote extra fat burning, but will not burn fat daily unless performed daily. It is not needed to see results, but will add to the results. If you have a hot tub, try at least sitting in that as often as possible for some light cardio.
    This just passed the mini-trampoline as my favoritest MFP miracle exercise EVAH!!!
    Bro... Do you even tub?
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)


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  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

    Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

    http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php
    So most journals of medicine and science will agree about .08 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. I think you mixed the .08 gram with 8 grams total. Understandable mistake. Now about that hot tub cardio...................

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    Didin't it say 0.8 not 0.08 grams per KG? of she would be close as you would have to weight 100kgs to get 8 grams of protien if you only needed .08, but 0.8 would be 80 grams.
    Sorry, I put in too many zeros. My bad. 0.8 is CORRECT.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.olympichottub.com/health/cardiovascular.html


    This is the thread that just keeps on giving.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)

    I am going to be kind for a moment. Many of us here devote a lot of time towards furthering our understanding of nutrition and fitness. In order to seperate the crap information from the good information, we have to be skeptical. Many of the things you posted are things that have been refuted with good science so many times that it usually isnt even worth a debate, hence the sarcasm.

    It is very easy to believe misinformation about nutrition when you have not spent much time learning about it.

    However, I would love for you to stick around and learn. Everyone is wrong sometimes, but when you eat crow and admit you were wrong, you gain a lot of wisdom and can move forward and continue learning.
  • weightabllodyminute
    weightabllodyminute Posts: 11
    How is sitting in a hot tub considered cardio? :huh:

    i think *kitten* is implied.

    Didn't know what that meant!! But that would do something...:sick:


    I made the mistake of looking up what it meant , no more hot tubs for me :happy:
  • tmpecus78
    tmpecus78 Posts: 1,206 Member
    How is sitting in a hot tub considered cardio? :huh:

    i'm glad i'm not the only one who caught this.

    I want to meet the person who sits in a hot tub for 60 minutes for the express purpose of burning 50 calories.

    I think its safe to say that the only cardio happening in a hot tub is sex. :wink: :laugh: Now with that being said, who wants do some cardio? :drinker:

    60 minutes?

    :wink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    How am I seeing results, consistent results to my findings if it's all bull****?

    Simple. You have consistently ate at a deficit for a given period of time.

    But I feel better than ever...

    Well who could argue with that kind of scientific evidence?

    Why would you argue my personal experience?


    Why would any of you bother to read this or post if its all hokey? Was it your goal to make me feel terrible?

    you're going to take your lumps for the OP. but keep an open mind and don't take it personally. take this as an opportunity to learn. the things you're doing aren't necessarily all wrong. some of them work, but for different reasons than you think. some of them have no effect. and some things you're doing should be changed so that you can optimize your own results.

    so laugh when you can. ask for clarifications. don't take it personally. don't get defensive. we all started with some misplaced notions about weight loss, nutrition, and fitness when we started. it's not a crime to be wrong. it's only a crime to refuse to change your views when presented with evidence that they are not correct.

    some of the people who you might think are huge jerks right now would actually be more than happy to point you in the right direction to find peer-reviewed science that you can read for your own enlightenment and would be happy to answer any questions you still have, until you're satisfied that maybe what they're saying is correct afterall.

    i don't mean this to sound patronizing either. you're new here. you posted some stuff that has been posted and debunked many times before. the response you're getting is a sort of "whack-a-mole" response to the need to keep rebutting bad information on the forums. if you understand this, it's easier to not see these as personal attacks.

    Damn you.
  • ladybarometer
    ladybarometer Posts: 205 Member
    There's really no proof that starvation mode exist. Most research that I've seen reveals a very small change in metabolism when following a VLCD - not saying it's a good idea, but just saying I haven't bought into starvation mode as an actual thing. I may over simplify it, but I've never seen an over weight starving person. Skinnyfat? yes, but not over weight. If your body is going to hold on to fat and calories, I think it would need more than what a VLCD contains. A lot of binge/purge eaters are over weight for this reason - their body has something to reach and hold on to, while starvation diets don't do well to provide that. That's just my opinion, and just from what I've seen.

    When someone isn't losing and they are told to eat more I see two things happening; 1) they give up, because of the initial gain 2) or they being to lose, but it seems that with increased cals, comes increased activity, because folks just try harder when their not doing well, some do anyway.

    That doesn't go to say that lower carb, high protein diets are bad or that you can't eat more on them - your body just reacts differently, which comes to the point that not all calories are the same.

    You're right, there are a lot of peeps here or are troll masters!
    It's the worst support community on any site I've seen - I just stick to my personal friends on here for advice and discussion.
  • MissJenniLee
    MissJenniLee Posts: 108 Member
    Also my friend who is in medical school showed me in one of his medical books that a hot tub (being that it's hot) will work the cardiovascular system
  • dmenchac
    dmenchac Posts: 447 Member
    Long story short--- With my intent to be helpful and the results was being trashed and abused, I have really lost all concern for this thread. I have heard nothing but insults instead if actual criticism. I will not make the mistake of trying to be helpful on this forum again. Thank you for this awful lesson that couldn't of been performed in a more childish way. You guys are absolutely amazing and I'm sure with the lives you lead you perform this act daily. Enjoy this amongst yourselves at the cost of someone else's well being. And thank you for being a part of the worlds problem. :)

    You called us "retards." Not sure where you are from, but in almost every place, it's just not cool. Posting inaccurate information is not helping or trying to help. It actually does the opposite. We all jumped into this thread because we knew what it would contain just from reading the title. We can't have newer members reading bad information and then following what you outlined. What if someone read this and actually only consumed 8 grams of protein a day? That would be very detrimental to their health. Threads should be written only if you have question or have sources to back up your statements. "Hey it worked for me" is not a valid source.


    Also, I sniff flowers every hour and am in a calorie deficit. But WAIT it must be the flowers that are causing me to lose weight. That pretty much sums up your thread.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/04/animal-protein-diets-smoking-meat-eggs-dairy

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21102327

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/03/04/285879644/eat-plants-and-prosper-for-longevity-go-easy-on-the-meat-study-says

    Okay, maybe I misremembered the grams of protein needed (not that I have been measuring), but the point being is we need a lot less than what we have been led to believe. Not to mention the source of where you get that protein.

    http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php
    So most journals of medicine and science will agree about .08 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight. I think you mixed the .08 gram with 8 grams total. Understandable mistake. Now about that hot tub cardio...................

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    Didin't it say 0.8 not 0.08 grams per KG? of she would be close as you would have to weight 100kgs to get 8 grams of protien if you only needed .08, but 0.8 would be 80 grams.
    Sorry, I put in too many zeros. My bad. 0.8 is CORRECT.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    http://www.olympichottub.com/health/cardiovascular.html

    Its a hot tub company and they sold you hook, line and sinker.
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