cut the SUGAR out

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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yes, sugar absolutely does aid in making you fat.

    Yes, Protein absolutely does aid in making you fat.

    Both of these are true on the face of it.

    Any food that is eaten aids in making a person fat. I am just going to stop eating all together, because eating breakfast is a trigger for lunch, and so on.
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    Excess sugar in the blood gets converted to fat.

    False. Excess calories become fat. That is anything eaten in a surplus.

    Nope, it's definitely glucose the person above is talking about.

    I assume they are talking about carbs.

    Carbs - converted to glucose, the glucose is then - taken up by the body as fuel, stored in the muscles and liver (limited storage), converted into body fat to be released as fuel at a later stage.
    So eating 10,000 calories of chicken breast won't make you fat? Fascinating.
  • IcanIwill1
    IcanIwill1 Posts: 137 Member
    Sugar doesn't make you fat, homey. Caloric surpluses do.

    For SOME people, sugar causes hyperinsulinism, which in turn causes their appetite to get out of control, thus setting them up for a cycle of over eating resulting in weight gain.

    Sugar will make you fat in extremely small quantities if your body reacts to it by flooding your system with insulin.
  • Inkratlet
    Inkratlet Posts: 613 Member
    I like the idea of replacing sugar with fruit. For instance, I put an apple in my mug of coffee earlier. The result was that I had less coffee so my calorie intake was less than it should have been. :o)

    You do realize fruit has.... nevermind... at this point with all the sugar nonsense on the boards I can't tell who is trolling :laugh:

    He's most definitely not trolling. No sir.

    :laugh: :drinker:
  • MostlyWater
    MostlyWater Posts: 4,294 Member
    I can drink coffee without sugar, just milk, and I like the taste of yogurt so I get the kind without added sugar. Other than that, it's hard to give up sugar.

    We also try to cook without added sauces which add sugar and sweetness. If you like Indian food, it seems to not have the overloaded sweetness that American food does.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    Sugar doesn't make you fat, homey. Caloric surpluses do.

    For SOME people, sugar causes hyperinsulinism, which in turn causes their appetite to get out of control, thus setting them up for a cycle of over eating resulting in weight gain.

    Sugar will make you fat in extremely small quantities if your body reacts to it by flooding your system with insulin.

    So sugar alone doesn't cause weight gain. Gotcha. It's a person's ability to adhere to their diet
  • whisperfitandhappy
    whisperfitandhappy Posts: 101 Member
    I was told by my doctor that sugar is the cause of obesity. Added sugar like in sweets such as cake and muffins or store bought snacks. I used to live on those foods and I know for a fact a lot of added sugar can and will make you gain weight. I tried sugar free foods but all they do to me is cause gas and diaherria. It really sucks how the best foods are so unhealthy.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    In. :laugh:
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    I was told by my doctor that sugar is the cause of obesity. Added sugar like in sweets such as cake and muffins or store bought snacks. I used to live on those foods and I know for a fact a lot of added sugar can and will make you gain weight. I tried sugar free foods but all they do to me is cause gas and diaherria. It really sucks how the best foods are so unhealthy.

    WRONG!!!!! Over eating more then what you burn is what cause weight gain!!!!!
  • Dreas70
    Dreas70 Posts: 4
    yeah I can't give up sugar completely.. I feel like i will binge if i do that, so i have just tried to cut it back where I'm not eating as much sugary foods…. I am back to walking/jogging 3 miles a day, so hoping to see more progress in the next few weeks… trying to stay motivated to keep working out this time!
  • IcanIwill1
    IcanIwill1 Posts: 137 Member
    So sugar alone doesn't cause weight gain. Gotcha. It's a person's ability to adhere to their diet
    brevity lol
  • frannieshack
    frannieshack Posts: 327 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?
    Carbohydrates are nutrients. Sugar is a carbohydrate. You were saying?
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?

    Yeeees... I work from the depths of the ebil sugar industry.

    Seriously? It's not empty, technically. It contains carbs, which are essential for functionality. I like to use them to fuel my training.

    Here's the support for sugar: demonizing any food is a silly notion, as nothing is inherently evil, it is purely in the context of an individual's diet on whether it is "healthy" or not. I don't believe excess of anything is good for you. If you have triggers, sure, abstain from it. Whatever helps to adhere to your diet but no one is going to sit here and support someone merely cutting it out on the premise that it's evil or is the cause of weight gain and obesity. It's not. I got fat eating excess everything, not one food was more instrument in my self destruction than my inability to realize I was eating in excess. I would like to think that is what people are dispelling by fighting in these posts. I don't consider that knocking them down, it's enlightening them from misinformation
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Excess sugar in the blood gets converted to fat.

    False. Excess calories become fat. That is anything eaten in a surplus.

    Nope, it's definitely glucose the person above is talking about.

    I assume they are talking about carbs.

    Carbs - converted to glucose, the glucose is then - taken up by the body as fuel, stored in the muscles and liver (limited storage), converted into body fat to be released as fuel at a later stage.
    So eating 10,000 calories of chicken breast won't make you fat? Fascinating.

    So how did you come up with that conclusion?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    We also try to cook without added sauces which add sugar and sweetness. If you like Indian food, it seems to not have the overloaded sweetness that American food does.

    I don't get this. Sure, there's added sugar in lots of processed items (although plenty of processed items don't have sugar), and Americans seem quite fond of sugary cereals and treats, and I guess I'm old since it seems like the old idea that you ate treats sparingly, after other things, is not necessarily as common, but in what way is "American food" inherently sweet. I'm pretty sure we ate a pretty boringly typical midwestern diet when I grew up, with sadly overcooked vegetables, even, but normal food was meat plus a starch (commonly potatoes) and a vegetable, plus maybe some salad or rolls or other bread. I love Indian food--have cut down while dieting, sadly, but used to get Indian takeout at least once a week, and while what I eat is a lot spicier than what we normally ate and the naan is much better than our rolls, I really don't see how the "American food" was sweeter.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I was told by my doctor that sugar is the cause of obesity. Added sugar like in sweets such as cake and muffins or store bought snacks. I used to live on those foods and I know for a fact a lot of added sugar can and will make you gain weight. I tried sugar free foods but all they do to me is cause gas and diaherria. It really sucks how the best foods are so unhealthy.

    Was this your naturopath that said this?
  • frannieshack
    frannieshack Posts: 327 Member
    There are better sources of carbs that actually contain vitamins.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    There are better sources of carbs that actually contain vitamins.

    But if I've already gotten all my vitamins for the day, wth does it matter?
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?

    Actually, the problem here is that people in the forums feel like they have to operate in extremes. That anti-sugar crusade automatically believes (or accuses) those of us who eat sugar eat it all day long, without any adherence to our macros or overall diet plan. This is why there is backlash.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with eating sugar - in moderation and in absence of a medical problem. To say that a piece of candy will blow your whole diet when you are staying within your calorie and macro goals is just...patently false. If you cannot have a piece of sugar because it will trigger you to go overboard, than that is a completely different story. Those of us who don't have that problem, however, should not feel the need to cut it our of our diets completely because it is "evil"
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Excess sugar in the blood gets converted to fat.

    False. Excess calories become fat. That is anything eaten in a surplus.

    Nope, it's definitely glucose the person above is talking about.

    I assume they are talking about carbs.

    Carbs - converted to glucose, the glucose is then - taken up by the body as fuel, stored in the muscles and liver (limited storage), converted into body fat to be released as fuel at a later stage.
    So eating 10,000 calories of chicken breast won't make you fat? Fascinating.

    So how did you come up with that conclusion?

    Common sense?
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Excess sugar in the blood gets converted to fat.

    False. Excess calories become fat. That is anything eaten in a surplus.

    Nope, it's definitely glucose the person above is talking about.

    I assume they are talking about carbs.

    Carbs - converted to glucose, the glucose is then - taken up by the body as fuel, stored in the muscles and liver (limited storage), converted into body fat to be released as fuel at a later stage.
    So eating 10,000 calories of chicken breast won't make you fat? Fascinating.

    So how did you come up with that conclusion?

    Common sense?

    How?
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Excess sugar in the blood gets converted to fat.

    False. Excess calories become fat. That is anything eaten in a surplus.

    Nope, it's definitely glucose the person above is talking about.

    I assume they are talking about carbs.

    Carbs - converted to glucose, the glucose is then - taken up by the body as fuel, stored in the muscles and liver (limited storage), converted into body fat to be released as fuel at a later stage.
    So eating 10,000 calories of chicken breast won't make you fat? Fascinating.

    So how did you come up with that conclusion?

    Common sense?

    How?

    Um. Because excess calories make you fat?
  • martinel2099
    martinel2099 Posts: 899 Member
    I"m with the Community here, sugar is not evil and with moderation is a fine part of any balanced diet. Giving up candy, chocolate, cake, ice cream, margaritas, and etc is not a realistic approach to any long term diet. You can have all of these things, so long as you practice moderation.

    If you eat nothing but ice cream and drink sugared soda all day you will gain weight if you create a calorie surplus, you can also gain weight by eating too much broccoli, if you eat it at a calorie surplus. Same goes for chicken breast, protein in general, whole foods, processed foods, junk foods, twinkies and the list goes on, you will gain weight if you eat at a calorie surplus.
  • MissMissle
    MissMissle Posts: 293 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?

    Actually, the problem here is that people in the forums feel like they have to operate in extremes. That anti-sugar crusade automatically believes (or accuses) those of us who eat sugar eat it all day long, without any adherence to our macros or overall diet plan. This is why there is backlash.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with eating sugar - in moderation and in absence of a medical problem. To say that a piece of candy will blow your whole diet when you are staying within your calorie and macro goals is just...patently false. If you cannot have a piece of sugar because it will trigger you to go overboard, than that is a completely different story. Those of us who don't have that problem, however, should not feel the need to cut it our of our diets completely because it is "evil"

    THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And to the same point - some of us DO feel we had an addiction to sugar (see dictionary definition of the word "addiction" if there is confusion) and chose to cut back on it because we felt it was adding to our innability to stay under our daily recomended calorie intake. Some of us refer to this as "giving up sugar" or "cutting sugar" or "not eating added sugar".

    Eating sugar will make me fat. Eating chicken will make me fat. Eating oranges will make me fat"... the only way any of those things will make me fat is if I eat them in excess....which I was doing, with "sugar" ie candy, but I refer to it as sugar because most people understand what I'm talking about....

    I, for one, never said sugar was "evil"... but I'd be fine if someone would like to say that.... we all have our own personal devils - and devils are evil - and we are here to fight these demons. I stuggeled with alcohol - I would call alcoholism a demon, though now I do not see that alcohol is "evil"... and I wouldn't feel right telling a friend that was drinking that he/she was consuming something evil and satanic...but the addiction, the dependancy, was a personal, evil demon I had to cope with, linked to alcohol - much like a personal, addictive feeling towards sugar might be a personal demon linking sugar to being 'evil". Once you rid yourself of your dependancy, ie, your demons, things like sugar will look less evil as you realize you no longer have that dependancy.

    While you are "addicted" - yes - call sugar evil all day long if it helps you stay away from making poor choices because that, afterall, is what getting healthy is all about!
    Just don't go telling other people that they are making evil choices... that will only get you put under attack on public message boards... People are only allowed to tell you YOU'RE wrong for calling sugar evil, but YOU are wrong if you tell other people your opinion. Haha ok that was a bit or sarcasm ... the fact of the matter regarding that is something along the lines of do unto others.... And cut out whatever you need to cut out to jump start your journey to sucess...you may fowl up along the way and realize maybe something wasn't the best decision...you make have great sucess - IMO try what you need to, do hat works, use MFP to learn to eat healthy and everything else will fall into place ;-)
  • rose313
    rose313 Posts: 1,146 Member
    I was also wondering about sugar. For the past month I have been under my goal of 45 grams per day 2/3 of the time. It doesn't sound very good if you think about me being over my goal a 1/3 of the time. I have still been losing weight without really watching sugar. Should I worry about it, or not until I plateau?
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?

    Actually, the problem here is that people in the forums feel like they have to operate in extremes. That anti-sugar crusade automatically believes (or accuses) those of us who eat sugar eat it all day long, without any adherence to our macros or overall diet plan. This is why there is backlash.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with eating sugar - in moderation and in absence of a medical problem. To say that a piece of candy will blow your whole diet when you are staying within your calorie and macro goals is just...patently false. If you cannot have a piece of sugar because it will trigger you to go overboard, than that is a completely different story. Those of us who don't have that problem, however, should not feel the need to cut it our of our diets completely because it is "evil"

    THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And to the same point - some of us DO feel we had an addiction to sugar (see dictionary definition of the word "addiction" if there is confusion) and chose to cut back on it because we felt it was adding to our innability to stay under our daily recomended calorie intake. Some of us refer to this as "giving up sugar" or "cutting sugar" or "not eating added sugar".

    Eating sugar will make me fat. Eating chicken will make me fat. Eating oranges will make me fat"... the only way any of those things will make me fat is if I eat them in excess....which I was doing, with "sugar" ie candy, but I refer to it as sugar because most people understand what I'm talking about....

    I, for one, never said sugar was "evil"... but I'd be fine if someone would like to say that.... we all have our own personal devils - and devils are evil - and we are here to fight these demons. I stuggeled with alcohol - I would call alcoholism a demon, though now I do not see that alcohol is "evil"... and I wouldn't feel right telling a friend that was drinking that he/she was consuming something evil and satanic...but the addiction, the dependancy, was a personal, evil demon I had to cope with, linked to alcohol - much like a personal, addictive feeling towards sugar might be a personal demon linking sugar to being 'evil". Once you rid yourself of your dependancy, ie, your demons, things like sugar will look less evil as you realize you no longer have that dependancy.

    While you are "addicted" - yes - call sugar evil all day long if it helps you stay away from making poor choices because that, afterall, is what getting healthy is all about!
    Just don't go telling other people that they are making evil choices... that will only get you put under attack on public message boards... People are only allowed to tell you YOU'RE wrong for calling sugar evil, but YOU are wrong if you tell other people your opinion. Haha ok that was a bit or sarcasm ... the fact of the matter regarding that is something along the lines of do unto others.... And cut out whatever you need to cut out to jump start your journey to sucess...you may fowl up along the way and realize maybe something wasn't the best decision...you make have great sucess - IMO try what you need to, do hat works, use MFP to learn to eat healthy and everything else will fall into place ;-)

    The difference with alcohol though is that it is an actual physical dependency. Comparing sugar addiction to alcohol is ridiculous at best.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    I was also wondering about sugar. For the past month I have been under my goal of 45 grams per day 2/3 of the time. It doesn't sound very good if you think about me being over my goal a 1/3 of the time. I have still been losing weight without really watching sugar. Should I worry about it, or not until I plateau?

    Unless you have a medical condition don't worry about it at all.

    I'm hilariously over my sugar intake every single day and I've lost 53 lbs, gone from 35% BF to 17% and have seem great benefits to my overall health by just focusing on getting my micros and macros.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Excess sugar in the blood gets converted to fat.

    False. Excess calories become fat. That is anything eaten in a surplus.

    Nope, it's definitely glucose the person above is talking about.

    I assume they are talking about carbs.

    Carbs - converted to glucose, the glucose is then - taken up by the body as fuel, stored in the muscles and liver (limited storage), converted into body fat to be released as fuel at a later stage.
    So eating 10,000 calories of chicken breast won't make you fat? Fascinating.

    So how did you come up with that conclusion?

    Common sense?

    How?

    Um. Because excess calories make you fat?

    Agreed, who is saying they do not?

    My post was not addressing weight loss, it was discussing what happens to excess sugar in the bloodstream.

    I think I've mention calorie deficit enough in this thread to make my position on how weight loss occurs clear!
  • MissMissle
    MissMissle Posts: 293 Member
    Why do people defend sugar on this site. Are you working for the sugar industry? It has no nutritional value that I know of, so if you are trying to lose weight, it seems logical to cut out foods that are empty calories. Congratulations to those of you that can eat whatever you want! How nice for those of you who have no clue what it feels like to be a carb addict. Tired of seeing this back lash everyday. People trying to eat healthier and you knocking them down. REALLY?

    Actually, the problem here is that people in the forums feel like they have to operate in extremes. That anti-sugar crusade automatically believes (or accuses) those of us who eat sugar eat it all day long, without any adherence to our macros or overall diet plan. This is why there is backlash.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with eating sugar - in moderation and in absence of a medical problem. To say that a piece of candy will blow your whole diet when you are staying within your calorie and macro goals is just...patently false. If you cannot have a piece of sugar because it will trigger you to go overboard, than that is a completely different story. Those of us who don't have that problem, however, should not feel the need to cut it our of our diets completely because it is "evil"

    THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And to the same point - some of us DO feel we had an addiction to sugar (see dictionary definition of the word "addiction" if there is confusion) and chose to cut back on it because we felt it was adding to our innability to stay under our daily recomended calorie intake. Some of us refer to this as "giving up sugar" or "cutting sugar" or "not eating added sugar".

    Eating sugar will make me fat. Eating chicken will make me fat. Eating oranges will make me fat"... the only way any of those things will make me fat is if I eat them in excess....which I was doing, with "sugar" ie candy, but I refer to it as sugar because most people understand what I'm talking about....

    I, for one, never said sugar was "evil"... but I'd be fine if someone would like to say that.... we all have our own personal devils - and devils are evil - and we are here to fight these demons. I stuggeled with alcohol - I would call alcoholism a demon, though now I do not see that alcohol is "evil"... and I wouldn't feel right telling a friend that was drinking that he/she was consuming something evil and satanic...but the addiction, the dependancy, was a personal, evil demon I had to cope with, linked to alcohol - much like a personal, addictive feeling towards sugar might be a personal demon linking sugar to being 'evil". Once you rid yourself of your dependancy, ie, your demons, things like sugar will look less evil as you realize you no longer have that dependancy.

    While you are "addicted" - yes - call sugar evil all day long if it helps you stay away from making poor choices because that, afterall, is what getting healthy is all about!
    Just don't go telling other people that they are making evil choices... that will only get you put under attack on public message boards... People are only allowed to tell you YOU'RE wrong for calling sugar evil, but YOU are wrong if you tell other people your opinion. Haha ok that was a bit or sarcasm ... the fact of the matter regarding that is something along the lines of do unto others.... And cut out whatever you need to cut out to jump start your journey to sucess...you may fowl up along the way and realize maybe something wasn't the best decision...you make have great sucess - IMO try what you need to, do hat works, use MFP to learn to eat healthy and everything else will fall into place ;-)

    The difference with alcohol though is that it is an actual physical dependency. Comparing sugar addiction to alcohol is ridiculous at best.

    Meh, not for me - I had addiction to both. One just happened to hurt other's around me more... but again, just my personal experience with both. Definetly not rediculous for me - the struggle was equally as hard, and actually continues to me more so with certain candies odly! I can easily have ONE drink, but ONE candy bar? HA! The talk I have in my head is much more intense when it comes to putting down the candy bar than putting down the whiskey - maybe it's because i wasn't offered a 12 step prgram fro Hersheys!! Who knows LOL but definetly, NOT rediculous - just how it is for me ;-)

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