Maintaining, and pie.

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  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    I guess I'm really afraid it's gonna all come back, it took a year to lose, and in my mind, overnight to regain.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
    No guilt. But I bet you would have enjoyed it as much and felt better with just one piece. That's my biggest lesson - less can be more.
  • Keepcalmanddontblink
    Keepcalmanddontblink Posts: 718 Member
    So, I just ate two INCREDIBLE slices of triple berry pie in a double crust. I dont think I could eat another piece.

    I started to feel guilty for this binge, but I am at my goal weight, and under maintaining calories... So, I uh, shouldn't feel guilty? It tasted so good, but I feel like I cheated, somehow.

    (Vaguely guilty)
    Its not really a binge. Its a treat. You don't eat like that daily, so I wouldn't sweat it, especially if you are under eating maintenance calories.
  • cathylopez1975
    cathylopez1975 Posts: 191 Member
    I guess I'm really afraid it's gonna all come back, it took a year to lose, and in my mind, overnight to regain.

    I totally get this!!! After MANY years of losing and regaining, I find it hard to trust. But I'm continuing what has gotten me here. I stopped eating a few things temporarily until I could learn to control myself. Eventually I added things back in that were problematic. I know my binge foods and don't start with them (or even have them in the house.)

    I LOVE PIE!!! After I had lost my first 50 lbs. I baked my favorite homemade cherry pie. No one else in my family likes it. I ate it over 8 days - 1 piece a day. I allowed for it in my calories, and made sure to have a little extra exercise for those 8 days. It was TOTALLY worth it. I am currently maintaining a 95 lb loss that took about a year and a half. And I will NOT give up pie. White bread, yes - pie, never!
  • macchiatto
    macchiatto Posts: 2,890 Member
    I hear you. I have done a ton of yoyo-ing in my life, most of it within a 20-lb range and I'm now about 7 lbs below the bottom of that range. I'm theoretically a few lbs from goal weight but will probably just lose 2 more and then shift to maintenance. I'm like you at times in that once i get started on something like a pie or other amazing goodie, it can be hard to stop. Then I worry I'm going to regain it all and start yoyoing again. Learning how to splurge at times without giving into the "all-or-nothing" thinking can be tough.
  • such a weakness of mine too, i had chocolate pie, why did i visit little chef
  • Not sure it helps and MyFitnessPal really helps me understand that why I exercise and why I watch my calories is exactly because I love food. LOVE IT! Today, I burned an estimated 700 calories on a bike ride. When I went out for Memorial Day with friends, I justified the mini veggie pizza and the microbrew because of my workout. As of now? I'm still under my calorie goal. Best wishes on your journey. It's OK to eat and sometimes eat food that by itself isn't necessarily good for us. Add into this a long-term commitment, smart and healthy exercise, and the majority of your food choices as reasonably balanced and you'll be fine.

    Lastly, one day doesn't a week make. While I agree that keeping under your daily calorie goal is good, remember that ultimately, it's the net calories that you consume in a week, more or less. There are a few days that I go over my net calories, even with a workout. But, the majority of my days, I'm under my calorie limit and I'm still losing what is, from my perspective, a healthy .5 to 2.5 lbs. per week.

    Good luck!
  • mxmkenney
    mxmkenney Posts: 486 Member
    I hope someone is getting SOMETHING outta me being so honest.

    I did. :flowerforyou:

    I am about 15 pounds away from goal, and I have an occasional binge (not planned of course) where I eat 1000 - 2000 over goal. Thankfully, those days are far and few between. But the guilt I feel after a bad day like that SUCKS.

    I tend to eat close to my caloric goal most days, but splurge a little on the weekends (maybe 200-300 over goal). So far it has not hindered my progress as long as I get back on track the next day. I think if you are under your maintenance goal, then go ahead and have a slice (or two) of pie. If it's not a daily thing, and you are within your caloric goal, then it's totally fine. No guilt necessary. Eat it and enjoy it!
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
    I'm just going to pretend you didn't mention possibly throwing away a homemade pie...:grumble:

    Next time have a plan for sharing with friends or freezing part before you take your first bite. I have the same issue with sweets though I have gotten much better about eating in moderation.

    Also if I go over calories for the day, I just make sure I'm under overall for the week. One day definitely won't make or break a diet, it's the habits over time that add on pounds.

    I had a piece of rhubarb cream pie today, and will come in under my calories. :drinker:

    I'm so with this! PIE....I just drank cream soda and ate ice cream with sauce to top my cheese burger and tater tots so don't sweat it. I'm sure not. Pie....
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    Ha, can't just throw out a homemade triple berry pie. You have to squeeze dish soap on it so you don't try to pick it outta the trash like a vagrant.

    The thought of someone throwing away, or squeezing dish soap on a homemade pie actually makes me want to weep.

    Why did you think 'skinny you' wouldn't want to eat the same things 'fat you' wanted to eat? Did you think the fat was in your tastebuds?
  • hortensehildegarde
    hortensehildegarde Posts: 592 Member
    Freeze it in individual portions...

    That's what I do! Stick it right in the freezer, probably best behind some veggies :) Then at least you can't mindless eat it as easily since you'd have to thaw it out!

    Please don't harm the poor defenseless pie! It deserves to be enjoyed your mom made it.
  • missyjane824
    missyjane824 Posts: 1,199 Member
    I'm sure this isn't helpful but I'd be all in on that pie. Eat it and move on. I don't usually do this with sweets but give me a bag of chips and its a goner. I tend to plan for these as I know once I start there's no going back.
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    An occasional day over maintenance - even significantly over - isn't going to make you regain all that weight. A frequent or regular habit of eating over maintenance, that's another story altogether. Say "Wow, that was a delicious treat!" and move on.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    At the first two pieces, when you were still under on your calories, you were viewing it as a binge. Do you think that viewing it as beyond your control *at that point* made it easier to eat the rest? Kind of a "well, what's the point stopping now?" mentality.

    I don't know what it is about some foods. I could probably eat a carton of ice cream (not a pint either! ). So I don't buy it, or I buy individual servings or a pint and split it with my husband.

    THIS^^ in droves!

    When I regained my weight it was doing shet just like this. without tracking. so when I had pie for lunch and a cinnamon roll after dinner, I'd be all "Oh well i already must be way over my cal limit with those two high cal things and so feck it, moar pie!"

    Now though if I'd told myself I could have one piece of pie and then I had two I WOULD LOG IT! That always results in my seeing in writing that I am still barely over my cal goal, usually within weight loss parameters or around maintenance. When I add that knowledge to the fact that I am still in the last six days eating at weight loss deficit amounts I realize MATHS.

    6 weight loss level cal days
    + 1 maintenance level cal day

    STILL EQUALS weight loss.

    And then ALL those guilty "oh screw it " feelings go flying out the window like so many phucks given. THe DGAF turns from "IDGAF I'm gonna eat this" to "IDGAF that I just ate that, it's totally fine!"

    and I still feel successful.

    Please try this. Log IMMEDIATELY when you think you've screwed up. Call it damage control.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,059 Member
    Echoing all the advice above.
    Definitely get that pie in the freezer, log it, and move on tomorrow!

    As another suggestion: maybe see if your mom can make baby sized pies in a muffin tin. That way you can have multiple, get the satisfaction of pie, while having better portion control with them!
    Speaking of which..I now want to do that with the pie crust in my fridge.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    I could have written your post, lol!

    I do that too much. Heck I looked at my diary this week end and got totally shocked to see that my last binge was 13 days ago! It's amazing for me (I'm not counting the days I eat at maintenance or within 100 calories of it, I'm still at a deficit).

    The last time I did it, I made sugar puffs 'for the kids after school'. Yeah right. I ended up eating them all before they even came back from school. Been doing something like that twice a month lately. So you're definitely not alone (although in my case it's self sabotage because I'm always baking things).

    I just keep a deficit to make up for days like these (although technically I'm still 3-4 pounds from my goal).
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    I'm in for the pie.
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    I actually considered throwing out the pie and squeezing dish soap on it, for good measure. But then I'd have to account for throwing out a beautiful pie my mother made.

    Sometimes I just get a taste for something and hit it hard. I lost 40 pounds while f-ing up like this once, sometimes twice per month. Maybe it's part of my personal success formula?

    Lol, obviously not. But seriously, I need to hear from others that over do it sometimes.

    NOOOOO don't hurt the pie!!!
  • d3m1urge
    d3m1urge Posts: 38
    Just had a 2000 calorie cheat meal. I was already at 1,300 for the day.

    I'm not even mad.
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    Just had a 2000 calorie cheat meal. I was already at 1,300 for the day.

    I'm not even mad.

    Word. That's my hero there.
  • funkygas
    funkygas Posts: 191 Member
    I could have written your post, lol!

    I do that too much. Heck I looked at my diary this week end and got totally shocked to see that my last binge was 13 days ago! It's amazing for me (I'm not counting the days I eat at maintenance or within 100 calories of it, I'm still at a deficit).

    The last time I did it, I made sugar puffs 'for the kids after school'. Yeah right. I ended up eating them all before they even came back from school. Been doing something like that twice a month lately. So you're definitely not alone (although in my case it's self sabotage because I'm always baking things).

    I just keep a deficit to make up for days like these (although technically I'm still 3-4 pounds from my goal).

    I know that feeling well - I get cravings for cookie dough so I'll go in the kitchen and make some cookies, eat a lot of dough, bake the rest and then never want to see the finished products again because I either feel crook physically or just never want to see them again. But I'm trying to be consistent with my calorie intake, leaving room for the equivalent of one cookie-worth of dough and one finished product when I bake. And trying to only bake half-recipes (although that's difficult when the recipe calls for an odd number of eggs!).

    For the last few weeks it seems to have been working ... I'm going to give it a go again later this week.
  • AlysonG2
    AlysonG2 Posts: 713 Member
    Eating whatever you want in small amounts is what I normally do. I also sometimes binge eat.

    I'd like to stop.

    I'd like to know too. There are certain things I just can't keep in the house or I'll eat it all.
  • sshintaku
    sshintaku Posts: 228 Member
    Dude, yesterday I had round table pizza buffet, then BBQed burgers. My friends brought over chow mien, cake and beer, so of course I had all that too. I was way over my maintenance calories, but I know if I eat lighter for the next few days (today, protein shake, salad and pot roast), I'll be reset and totally fine.

    Just don't let the "bad days" become habitual and you'll be fine.
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    Omg I didn't even realize people were still reading and responding to this thread. Here's what happened post pie binge. (And YES it turned into a binge, which I recorded fully on mfp)

    My husband came home, I told him how I had locked the yummy pie away in the fridge and I am now not opening the fridge until he came home. He gave me a hug, because I was really shaken. I hate losing control!

    He portioned and froze the pie in individual serves, ate two slices, and declared that it was divine. (He's a lifelong skinny)

    Mom and I went out the next day, and I came clean about my severe overeat. She laughed, and told me she intentionally leaves pies, cookies, and ice cream at my home, because she is a binge-er too.

    She told me that the last key lime pie she bought she ate half of it to herself, in a sitting, and had to throw it in the outside garbage to keep from eating it.

    And then she told me about my aunt, who has actually thrown cookies out, in the outside dumpster of her apartment, to stop binging, and ended up crawling into the dumpster to get them.

    And lastly, my OTHER aunt, who is a binge chocolate eater, who once ate all our Easter chocolate out of our baskets one year,before we even got to see our baskets.

    It was a good bonding moment for us, and I definitely feel better than I did. I have a theory that if you can talk about the problem, you can understand and work on the problem.

    And to the person who asked if I really thought I'd outgrow my tastes for large amounts of fattening foods, yup. I thought I would! I wear a size 6 now,FFS! I am visibly thin,with visible bones and everything!But I lost control like my old size 16 self. ;) it was jarring, to say the least.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Ha, can't just throw out a homemade triple berry pie. You have to squeeze dish soap on it so you don't try to pick it outta the trash like a vagrant.

    :noway: Aren't vagrants usually starving when they pick stuff out of the trash.... if you want to actually pull food out of the trash (assuming you actually dumped it in and didn't just lay it nicely wrapped on top of the other trash) maybe you need some psych to help you with that. :wink:

    I just read what you posted at the same time I was posting...That is actually sad that you have disordered eating run in your family - I don't know if I'd call it a bonding moment.:huh:
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    Oddly enough, I almost think we are like this because we all had a lot of food insecurity growing up. Quite often there was a lack of food...anyways, it is bonding to not feel like the only one who struggles around food.

    And as gross as it sounds, I learned the dish soap routine the hard way. I totally ate Brownies from a trash can once. I had my justifications for it at the time, but that was a personal low.

    I just wanna be able to be naturally thin, to stop at one piece of pie, to have never eaten to excess before. For moderation to come as naturally as breathing.

    But oh well, at least I'm not a drug addict or a drunk, like most of my family. Because that looks much harder to kick.
  • Anonycatgirl
    Anonycatgirl Posts: 502 Member
    Lol, but I am skinny now! So why do I still WANT to eat a gross amount of pie/bread/dinner rolls like I did when I was fat?

    I thought for sure skinny girls don't think "OMG PIE!!!!!"

    Of course they do. They just know to move a little more and eat a little less the next day. (Or they're young, active, and have insane metabolisms. Oh, but those days are long past for me.)
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    I don't believe the whole "insane metabolism" thing. I think they "naturally thin" people, must not eat as many calories, or burn more calories from an active lifestyle (like a marathon runner) .

    And secretly, that they don't have a taste for pies. Lol.
  • RaspberryKeytoneBoondoggle
    RaspberryKeytoneBoondoggle Posts: 1,349 Member
    Of course it's ok! I find that my body can take in extra calories without easily gaining weight, but my brain doesn't handle this as well. I start getting too confident and make over-eating a regular habit:)
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    Look at that bread in your avatar. Yum.