Confused about diet soda (coke, pepsi etc)

earlnabby

Well, just remember that if you do switch over to water, make sure you talk nice to it or it may become bad for you.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/gwyneth-paltrow-thinks-negative-words-and-sounds-can-hurt-waters-feelings/story-fn907478-1226943092134

fatfudgery

The amount of mom-science in this thread is truly epic.

gaelicstorm26

Scientific fact: olives are meant to look pretty in martinis.

eddiesmith1

Your basically drinking chemicals, that aint good for you.

Watch out for the dihydrogen monoxide in your water! http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Bwahahahaha Nice

bagge72

Absolutely agree. Go read what brain surgeon Dr Jack Kruse says that aspartame does in the brain and how it messes with your metabolism.

Where's the actual science that backs it up? And from a guy who's been suspended by the Association of which he practices in?

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

You might be interested in this: http://youtu.be/nTUbDwmZmAY you might want to start at minute 2.

Wow that was terrible, so much out dated information, and the news reports from the early 90's that are used in it, that is just classic, I can't believe the author of that video would use such crappy sources for such an important video to them.

conqueringsquidlette

Well, just remember that if you do switch over to water, make sure you talk nice to it or it may become bad for you.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/gwyneth-paltrow-thinks-negative-words-and-sounds-can-hurt-waters-feelings/story-fn907478-1226943092134

Dead. I am just dead. That is the funniest thing I've read all day.

The amount of mom-science in this thread is truly epic.

Oooh, saving that term for later. Is mom-science the *opposite* of bro-science, or do they overlap?

Aaron_K123

Well, just remember that if you do switch over to water, make sure you talk nice to it or it may become bad for you.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/gwyneth-paltrow-thinks-negative-words-and-sounds-can-hurt-waters-feelings/story-fn907478-1226943092134

Dead. I am just dead. That is the funniest thing I've read all day.

The amount of mom-science in this thread is truly epic.

Oooh, saving that term for later. Is mom-science the *opposite* of bro-science, or do they overlap?

I think the distinction would be this:

Eat your vegetables and you will get ripped bro
vs
Eat your vegetables or your teeth will fall out then what will the girls/boys think of you!

mattforty2

Anecdotally I find that diet sodas leave me craving sweets, not a big loss not to drink them though as I don't really like them anyway.

I think most of the fear of aspartame comes from studies like this one that do show that it can cause cancer and brain damage in rats -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16507461
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22385158

But you have to realize that in one of them the rats were being given the equivalent of 500mg/kg of body weight. I don't know if any studies have been done on lower dosages that might paint a more realistic picture. Anything can be poisonous at high enough doses.

This study suggests that artificial sweeteners do increase appetite - but someone earlier in the thread stated these studies had been debunked and that it does not increase appetite, I couldn't find it but that doesn't mean it's not there.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

According to the EU study a person would need to drink 12 cans at the maximum allowed (per can by regulation) or 36 cans at what is normally in them, what I'm not sure of is whether at that point it is poisonous, or if that is the maximum safe daily amount -

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/faqs/faqaspartame.htm?wtrl=01

I'm just posting these because there seemed to be a fair amount of fluff, since I don't like the diet soda anyway I don't really care as long as having a soda every once in a while won't kill me.

Personally I wouldn't drink 2 liters daily either though just because it seems excessive, but I don't have proof as to why I would think drinking so much soda is bad for you, I just think water is "better".

SomeNights246

Diet Pepsi is much better than Diet Coke

How so?

OP, I don't think diet soda's are harmful at all - that said, 2 litres does seem a lot of it to drink every day - I would maybe cut back to 1/4 of that and try to drink more water instead.
No need to cut it out entirely - just perhaps cut back to a more moderate level.

Take the Pepsi challenge. You will see.

Interesting and random fact about that. We discussed this in Psychology. The real reason Pepsi always won was because they were exploiting a psychological fact that something is much 'stronger' the first time your senses pick up on it. Like a house that stinks stinks worse when you first walk in, but you adjust to it the longer you sit in the house. Pepsi was always given first. So, that first sip of Pepsi was more refreshing than the second sip, and by the time the people sip Coke, they're just like 'meh'.

lol But really, I get the joke. I just ramble about things sometimes.

Diet pop is not inherently bad. I've yet to see any scientific studies that were convincing enough to scare me away from it. Two liters a day is insane, though. I used to drink that much pop. I slowly eased out of it. Went to coffee and tea and eased into just 1-2 cups of coffee, tea, or soda a day.

I could never give up caffeine entirely. It would be a cold day in a Texas summer before I'd do that..

jamsieboi

Thanks for all the input......I think!

Lots of information to consider but I think the main think I am getting is the amount I drink, even if it's not that bad I can see a big difference in how bloated I feel so plan to cut back.

Strange point on the coke / pepsi debate, I love full fat coke but prefer diet pepsi to diet coke or coke zero.

Aaron_K123

Thanks for all the input......I think!

Lots of information to consider but I think the main think I am getting is the amount I drink, even if it's not that bad I can see a big difference in how bloated I feel so plan to cut back.

Strange point on the coke / pepsi debate, I love full fat coke but prefer diet pepsi to diet coke or coke zero.

Yeah man, all debate aside really just a matter of what feels right for you. If you want to make a change in your life and feel like you are working towards your health and you recognize/feel that soda makes you bloated and you are ready to cut it out then go for it.

MelissaDonahue12

Cut it out of your diet... Drink water.

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paulawatkins1974

Diet Pepsi is much better than Diet Coke

No no no...you meant diet mt dew is better than diet coke!

COKE ZERO!! lol

tracydr

Thanks for all the input......I think!

Lots of information to consider but I think the main think I am getting is the amount I drink, even if it's not that bad I can see a big difference in how bloated I feel so plan to cut back.

Strange point on the coke / pepsi debate, I love full fat coke but prefer diet pepsi to diet coke or coke zero.

I can't stand regular sodas but enjoy a rare diet drink. Diet gingerale, diet rootbeer and sometimes diet coke. Fresca is okay,too.
I think the person who posted that sweetener is a slightly altered sugar molecule was talking about sucralose.
I prefer stevia for most sweetening uses, myself.