To all parents.....Should I give this lady a tip?

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  • _KitKat_
    _KitKat_ Posts: 1,066 Member
    Personally I tend to only tip people who go above and beyond...otherwise their standard wage is what they get paid for - doing their job in a mediocre yet acceptable fashion.

    If they exceed that expectation, they get a tip...if they don't, they don't.

    That's just me though, my wife hates it.

    I imagine you get A LOT of mediocre service...

    Waitstaff are paid less than minimum wage because tips make up the difference and then some. Now that you know this, failure to tip wait staff and others who work in the service industry will henceforth make you a bad person

    Not only this^^^^^^ but many places the waitress also has to tip a fixed percent of sales to the hostess/host, bus boy/girl, and back bar. When I was young it was about 5% of my sales I had to payout, regardless if I got tipped. I always tip service people, I tip base if they do their job, I tip well if they are cheerful and good and for exceptional service or just because I am in a great mood.....I tip huge. I also tip higher when I use a gift certificate, no clue why but I do. I am in the US, here it is needed for these people to survive and contribute back to society.
  • jigsawxyouth
    jigsawxyouth Posts: 308 Member

    say what now?

    eta: people who use medical marijuana are potheads? you seem quite uneducated on such matters. best to keep that stuff inside your head.

    Typical pothead response.

    I bet you have tattoos and piercings too.

    Because tattoos and piercings make you a pothead or stupid?!? Take your idiotic judgments and go crawl back under your rock.
    I think he was being sarcastic...
    I would know, I'm one of those tattooed, pierced potheads...
  • _KitKat_
    _KitKat_ Posts: 1,066 Member
    I wouldn't give her a tip and i'd call her boss to complain. She wants to be a pothead but it's irresponsible to be talking to a teenager about it.

    say what now?

    eta: people who use medical marijuana are potheads? you seem quite uneducated on such matters. best to keep that stuff inside your head.

    Typical pothead response.

    I bet you have tattoos and piercings too.

    Because tattoos and piercings make you a pothead or stupid?!? Take your idiotic judgments and go crawl back under your rock.


    ^^^^^^THIS times 10000%

    I don't smoke, but I have tattoos and piercings, F*** off. You know what matters more than I don't smoke, I am not a drunk. Before you judge people know your facts. Many (even majority) of pot smokers (legal or not) are upper middle class professionals. Also tattoos do not prohibit me from being an awesome mom, wife and excelling at my career (web design/development and marketing), neither do piercings. Guess what else I could probably function just as well if I smoked pot at times.....but drunk, well I would be a mess.

    Know what else, my honor roll 14 year old has a cute little nose stud, got for turning 13. She will be graduating with her associates degree (biology) at the same time as getting her diploma.

    Great way to show your ignorance.


    ETA, if it was sarcastic.... Then oops.....this does stand for anyone with that actual view.
  • bciloveme2014
    bciloveme2014 Posts: 213 Member
    I understand that every one has different views on stuff like this and i dont think that talking to this lady will change her views, Teens are going to encounter all diffrent types of ppl you cant protect them from every one just teach your daughter and explain to her why you dont want her using it. So she can learn to make the right choices even when you are not there

    This ^

    Also, you need to be able to trust your daughter that she is not going to do everything that some people tell her and also teach her about the tips too.
  • tibsons_girl
    tibsons_girl Posts: 35 Member
    Personally I tend to only tip people who go above and beyond...otherwise their standard wage is what they get paid for - doing their job in a mediocre yet acceptable fashion.

    If they exceed that expectation, they get a tip...if they don't, they don't.

    That's just me though, my wife hates it.

    .
    Wow that's a jerk move.
    not really though, i dont get tips for working 10 hours days construction so why is a tip implied for someone who brings me my food or cuts my hair when they already get a wage



    Most servers earn 2.13/hour before taxes are taken out.....
    things are different in ontario. minimum wage is $11 no matter where you work.

    if i had a waiter who made that little i would definitely tip (and i still do in ontario unless the service is godawful just because of the stupid expectation of it)

    actually.. in ontario most servers currently only make $9.55. Still more than in the US, but not as straightforward as you are making it out to seem.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member

    actually.. in ontario most servers currently only make $9.55. Still more than in the US, but not as straightforward as you are making it out to seem.
    i think 9.55 is more than a fair wage for someone who waits tables considering the work others have to do for a couple bucks more an hour. ive busted my *kitten* for 12.50 an hour and ive seen my best friends gf make my full 40 h wage in tips in 3 days, thats before her hourly cheque, bringing people their food in the comfort of an air conditioned restaurant.

    ontarian waiters have it made in the shade
  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    You guys make me miss weed.

    It's one of those things you have to give up when you want to lose weight. Those munchies are killer.

    False. I lost over 85 lbs smoking nearly every day. There are strains that are less prone to causing the munchies.

    Agreed...and munchies don't happen when you're a regular smoker, imo.

    ...AND it hits people differently. for some it's an appetite suppressant. :ohwell:
  • cherrilovee
    cherrilovee Posts: 194 Member
    Screw the tip. It's very irresponsible to be talking about drugs with other people's children. With that being said, make sure you talk to your children about drugs and the reasons that they SHOULD NOT take them. The majority of people getting into drugs are highschoolers. Talk to your teens about the effects the drugs will have on their bodies.
  • Pipsg1rl
    Pipsg1rl Posts: 1,414 Member
    Too late to tip, I agree, but you should discuss tip etiquette with your daughter. Usually gift cards can't be used for tipping.

    Now if your daughter was dissatisfied with the service that would be a reason not to tip, but she should talk to the owner/manager.

    As for the medical marijuana conversation I -personally- feel that your daughter is too young to have a conversation like that with a service provider. Sure, she may discuss it with you and her friends, but NO grown person should talk to a CHILD about marijuana if it is NOT YOU.

    What if she was recommending vodka for migraines? That's so not ok.

    By the way... occipital nerve blocks if you haven't looked at that already.
  • rowlandsw
    rowlandsw Posts: 1,166 Member
    While i may have been a bit over the line with the pothead comment the woman still needs her boss to have a talk with her. There is also the chance that she was full of crap saying it was medically needed, at the moment it tends to be a claim folks who don't really need use to try and sound like they're not breaking the law. actually i'd prefer if they'd just fully legalize it but an adult talking to a minor about it is a bad idea.
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
    Personally I tend to only tip people who go above and beyond...otherwise their standard wage is what they get paid for - doing their job in a mediocre yet acceptable fashion.

    If they exceed that expectation, they get a tip...if they don't, they don't.

    That's just me though, my wife hates it.

    So you're telling me that waiters/waitresses deserve the $2.13/hr base pay (that's what it is here in Alabama) for not going above and beyond the call of duty to keep your glass filled? It's a different story if it was crappy service, and in that case, do what you please. But if the service was normal but not extraordinary, then they should still get a tip. These people make 75% of their wages from tips.
  • jigsawxyouth
    jigsawxyouth Posts: 308 Member
    Personally I tend to only tip people who go above and beyond...otherwise their standard wage is what they get paid for - doing their job in a mediocre yet acceptable fashion.

    If they exceed that expectation, they get a tip...if they don't, they don't.

    That's just me though, my wife hates it.

    So you're telling me that waiters/waitresses deserve the $2.13/hr base pay (that's what it is here in Alabama) for not going above and beyond the call of duty to keep your glass filled? It's a different story if it was crappy service, and in that case, do what you please. But if the service was normal but not extraordinary, then they should still get a tip. These people make 75% of their wages from tips.

    He must expect them to come out with a smoke machine, blaring the Space Jam theme song while cartwheeling over to his table.
  • BigT555
    BigT555 Posts: 2,067 Member
    Personally I tend to only tip people who go above and beyond...otherwise their standard wage is what they get paid for - doing their job in a mediocre yet acceptable fashion.

    If they exceed that expectation, they get a tip...if they don't, they don't.

    That's just me though, my wife hates it.

    So you're telling me that waiters/waitresses deserve the $2.13/hr base pay (that's what it is here in Alabama) for not going above and beyond the call of duty to keep your glass filled? It's a different story if it was crappy service, and in that case, do what you please. But if the service was normal but not extraordinary, then they should still get a tip. These people make 75% of their wages from tips.
    that guy is from canada as well. his waiters will be getting at least 10/hour
  • Monkey_Business
    Monkey_Business Posts: 1,800 Member
    What would I do???? :huh:
    I would have informed my teenage daughter about "pot" before a manicurist did. Letting her know that some people smoke it for a buzz that happens to be safer than the effects of alcohol and some use it to cope with pain under the supervision of a medical professional. :smokin:
    I would also have taught my daughter that when a service is provided for you, such as getting your nails done, that it is PROPER to tip the person who did it and that forgetting and keeping the money is not an option, unless a bad job was done. :noway:
    (maybe a quick chat about the birds and the bees would be in order before the tattooed, pierced up druggie at the supermarket explains what condoms are) <<--- Sarcasm at it's highest, just in case anyone thought otherwise.

    I think there are two issues here and that they are seperate:

    1.) Should a person return to a service organization to tip a vendor that normally recieves tips as part of their compensation:
    A: I do regularly when a relative or child does not tip appropriatelythat i am with. Its part of their social education.

    2.) Should a service representative be giving medical advice that is outside their expertice to a minor: Not enough information at this point; we are not being told how the conversation evolved nor were we there. I do know that all caring people do normally give health advise when we are asked for it. Look at MFP, we take our experiences for fitness and normally pass it to others.

    I am not a user of MJ nor do I intend to be in the future regardless of the laws. I also know that MJ has never been clearly tested without the results being squed one way or the other. THe research I have done into the subject has revealed numerious testimonials to its benefits by many doctors (Sanja Gupta for one).
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    OP, you're getting played. Your daughter clearly kept the tip on purpose so she could by a ten sack later that day. she was then busted by you and passed the blame off to the manicure lady. oldest trick in the book
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    You're going to stiff the woman on a tip because she dared to offer a different way to treat migraines? Medical marijuana can do wonders for some medical issues. It's not like she sold your kid a freaking nickle bag. Some people man....:grumble:
  • clydethecat
    clydethecat Posts: 1,087 Member
    1. vaporizer - look it up, best way to injest it. (eating it is ok, but it metabolizes differently, turns more into a hallucinogen)

    2. medical is a life saver. it saved my sanity, and saves millions of others from a myriad of other issues.

    3. there is nothing wrong with wanting to get high. its better than getting drunk. way less brain cells killed.

    4. you're kid has so much respect for you, she came and told you what the chic said to her. she didnt hide it from you, you should be thrilled. you have a great relationship with your kid. focus on that. the manicurist is not an issue.
  • shmerek
    shmerek Posts: 963 Member
    It is called medicinal marijuana and is prescribed by a doctor so why are people getting their panties in a twist? She might as well be talking about getting a prescription for any other drug, no difference. I fail to see the issue here.
  • notamoment
    notamoment Posts: 190 Member
    I would be questioning why your daughter kept the tip money (i.e. to buy a dime bag.)

    Aside from the drug debate, my issue on this is that you made it an issue to begin with. The closed-mindedness of some parents with what their kids are subjected to is a bit naive and excessive. Your daughter knows about pot and has conversed in a lot of other issues that you may blanch at. While it MAY be unprofessional, a client/manicurist relationship is that of a confidant, but less money for the hour than a shrink would charge. Just because something is discussed doesn't mean your kid is going to partake in the topic at hand. Making a big deal out of this says more about you than that of the chick doing nails. I can't even imagine the bubble you keep your daughter in, but it's not going to be beneficial to her when down the road.

    There's a big difference between what kids talk about, or what kids hear about, and another adult suggesting that your kid partake in something controversial (that an adult SHOULD be able to realize the kid's parents might not like). My kids are not sheltered at all, but my initial reaction would have been annoyance -- which would have nothing to do with keeping my kid in a bubble, and everything to do with some adult butting in to my parenting. (Although, like I said above, on second thought she was only saying, "Talk to your mom about it," and there's really nothing wrong with that.) I also got annoyed when my daughter's teacher told her she was making "a bad decision" because she planned to watch anime all weekend (it's summer break). Obviously I'm not trying to shelter her from... uh, *not* watching anime? Just, you know, let me parent my own kid.

    Clearly a suggestion for relief from massive migraines is "butting" in on your parenting.

    And if THAT isn't enough of a clue that this ***** is stepping on your toes, then her suggesting that your kid talk to you about it is for SURE a challenge. You should throat punch her like a boss...clearly she is out of line.

    Reading comprehension, much?

    Awe your cute :) i was being sarcastic lol
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    OP, you're getting played. Your daughter clearly kept the tip on purpose so she could by a ten sack later that day. she was then busted by you and passed the blame off to the manicure lady. oldest trick in the book

    Lol, seriously, why didn't she just walk over and give the tip to the woman? Salons aren't normally even that big. I have hunted servers down in large restaurants before to make sure they get a tip. Smh.
  • kinkyslinky16
    kinkyslinky16 Posts: 1,469 Member
    The tip is upto you.

    Why this topic needs a thread IDK.

    What's so bad about marijuana?!

    I forgot...pass the doritos...

    MMMmmmm I am hanging out with you two! :laugh:
  • kinkyslinky16
    kinkyslinky16 Posts: 1,469 Member
    What would you do?

    First I would preheat the oven to 350 degrees, 375 for a dark no-stick pan. Combine the eggs, brownie mix, vegetable oil, and stir till well blended. Fold in the "special" ingredient. Spray the pan with a non-stick spray. Pour into pan and bake for about 35 minutes.

    You should use a double boiler pot and heat the special ingrediant to 120F for 45 minutes first, then add it to the mixture after straining the green leaf matter.

    And you too! :laugh:
  • Golightly17
    Golightly17 Posts: 347 Member
    I'd feel guilty for not tipping. That said, the conversation was totally inappropriate. Maybe she wasn't aware your daughter was so young? If she thought that your daughter was of age the topic might not be so egregious, but I'm from Boulder so maybe my view is lax.
  • Eaving1
    Eaving1 Posts: 40
    It doesn't sound like this girl was being malicious, just sounds like she was offering a suggestion of something she thought might help your daughter.
  • ValerieMartini2Olives
    ValerieMartini2Olives Posts: 3,024 Member
    Maybe next time, take your daughter yourself instead of just having her dropped off.
  • Jerrypeoples
    Jerrypeoples Posts: 1,541 Member
    Maybe next time, take your daughter yourself instead of just having her dropped off.

    i think its perfectly acceptable for a 14 year old to be dropped off by her grandmother

    however it is not perfectly acceptable for a stranger whos job is to do nails to discuss using medicinal marijuana to cure migraines