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ILiftHeavyAcrylics

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I understand when people are doing dangerous stuff for sure. But I think what it really boils down to is some people are frustrated to see others losing weight and they aren't so they lash out at them.

Yes!!! You are right! Totally jelos.

Me too!

*looks at ticker*

Wait.

Yeah! Ha ha! Take that!

*looks at ticker*

Oh.

Hmph.

Never mind then.

:kicks rocks:

:laugh:

Poor Jof. Maybe someday TPTB will create a proper bulking ticker.

QuietBloom

Is it not supposed to be for people to ask questions and get help? Instead you just see people post pointless topics in order to start controversy. If a certain lifestyle is right for someone else but isn't right for you why bash it? I just don't understand, let them do what works for them and you do you. No reason to shame people for the choices they make and the foods they decide to eat.

Case in point.

Auzziedoggie

I spend more time at reddit.com/r/loseit because people here can be extremely snarky/trollish.

neandermagnon

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If people can't handle criticism,debate or sarcasm from a total stranger on a forum how the hell do they handle it from family friends or in the work place.

The world is not always a nice place take the good stuff and ignore the bad

I always keep a pair of big girl panties nearby just in case.

Speaking of big girl panties everytime I see your profile picture I think its a woman bent over with her pants falling down until it dawns on me that it is your armpit.

I love your insight on this thread. All your posts, not just this one.....

neandermagnon

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I understand when people are doing dangerous stuff for sure. But I think what it really boils down to is some people are frustrated to see others losing weight and they aren't so they lash out at them.

Yeah I don't buy that at all. The people who often get branded "mean" on here are often the people who have the least reason to be jealous.

Confidence from their success is read as arrogance, bluntness in their responses is read as rudeness.

^^^^ this

and the sooner people who complain about the "mean people" realise this the better. Sorry if advice sometimes comes across as mean, becuase really there isn't any way to say "what you're trying isn't going to work long term and it's dangerous" that isn't going to be taken as mean/negative/snarky by some. But what are we supposed to do? Not tell them? Let them fail and end up in a worse position than they were when they started out?

LiftAllThePizzas

this site does NOT promote unsafe eating practices or condone gimmicks etc etc. People wanting validation of the latest craze or support for LCD are going to be called out .....rightly so. As someone said early on there are many people here, young, desperate, new to weight loss and nutrition that could easily fail prey to unsafe methods.

Yeah, if you want to write those type of posts promoting wacky fad diets or nonsensical "rules" for dieting, keep it on the MFP sponsored blog where it belongs.

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PikaKnight

I spend more time at reddit.com/r/loseit because people here can be extremely snarky/trollish.

Because there aren't any snarky people on reddit.

LOL

goldthistime

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1. The 900th thread posted for the same damned thing, and someone can't be bothers to @#$%ing use the search function.

MFP guidelines: "a) Do not attack, mock, or otherwise insult others. You can respectfully disagree with the message or topic, but you cannot attack the messenger. This includes attacks against the user’s spelling or command of written English, or belittling a user for posting a duplicate topic."

I get that when you have been here a while it gets tedious to see the same questions or "wrong ideas" discussed over and over again. I suspect that is why we get so many snarky unhelpful responses. Even the good guys get tired of explaining the same thing over and over. But it's helpful for us to participate in a conversation first hand.

Why are you quoting me then posting a non-relevant bit of "guidelines?"

No one was belittled. Now, if someone gets all sandy bottom over it, boo hoo. Every time people get sandy bottom over this, Memet Oz wins. DO YOU WANT OZ TO WIN?

Sorry, it was unclear, I see that now. I did not mean that you belittled anyone. I meant only that I interpret the guideline's support of "duplicate topics" to encourage posters to start their own conversations on topics. Lots of times I DO use the search button, but every once in a while I want to start my own conversation. Glad to see you responded with humour.

likitisplit

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1. The 900th thread posted for the same damned thing, and someone can't be bothers to @#$%ing use the search function.

MFP guidelines: "a) Do not attack, mock, or otherwise insult others. You can respectfully disagree with the message or topic, but you cannot attack the messenger. This includes attacks against the user’s spelling or command of written English, or belittling a user for posting a duplicate topic."

I get that when you have been here a while it gets tedious to see the same questions or "wrong ideas" discussed over and over again. I suspect that is why we get so many snarky unhelpful responses. Even the good guys get tired of explaining the same thing over and over. But it's helpful for us to participate in a conversation first hand.

Why are you quoting me then posting a non-relevant bit of "guidelines?"

No one was belittled. Now, if someone gets all sandy bottom over it, boo hoo. Every time people get sandy bottom over this, Memet Oz wins. DO YOU WANT OZ TO WIN?

Sorry, it was unclear, I see that now. I did not mean that you belittled anyone. I meant only that I interpret the guideline's support of "duplicate topics" to encourage posters to start their own conversations on topics. Lots of times I DO use the search button, but every once in a while I want to start my own conversation. Glad to see you responded with humour.

There's a difference between belittling somebody for posting duplicate topics and raging about people using the search button.

asdowe13

OOoooh a mean people thread it must be a day of the week.

FIFY

candistyx

Why is everyone so mean?

We're mostly trying to lose weight which means a degree of calorie restriction which means a corresponding degree of irritability. Also people need a lot of willpower and motivation to keep it up which means if other people even unintentionally cast doubt on their methodologies it's easy for that to make them crack if they don't keep up a strict dogmatic attitude to their methods.

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SLLRunner

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Some of the topics posted here are baffling, sad, confusing. The ones that are most irritating to me are : "can I eat ______ calories day and be okay?" and "I eat ____ calories and I'm so full I can't meet my calorie goals".

Why don't we just validate them, let them do their thing, and then when it fails, they can come back ready for new knowledge.

I don't think validation is appropriate, but truthfulness is. Sometimes the truth is interpreted as meanness, or "haters" as some people say. I'm getting to the point to where I am tired of responding to these types of threads.

RllyGudTweetr

Is it not supposed to be for people to ask questions and get help? Instead you just see people post pointless topics in order to start controversy. If a certain lifestyle is right for someone else but isn't right for you why bash it? I just don't understand, let them do what works for them and you do you. No reason to shame people for the choices they make and the foods they decide to eat.

So, what help regarding diet and weight loss were you seeking with this question? Or. . . .

LiftAllThePizzas

Is it not supposed to be for people to ask questions and get help?

It's not. The purpose of this forum is to generate traffic and thus ad views, which produce revenue for the site owners.

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Snow3y

Quite ironic imo.

likitisplit

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Some of the topics posted here are baffling, sad, confusing. The ones that are most irritating to me are : "can I eat ______ calories day and be okay?" and "I eat ____ calories and I'm so full I can't meet my calorie goals".

Why don't we just validate them, let them do their thing, and then when it fails, they can come back ready for new knowledge.

I don't think validation is appropriate, but truthfulness is. Sometimes the truth is interpreted as meanness, or "haters" as some people say. I'm getting to the point to where I am tired of responding to these types of threads.

We should probably just post sexypants and maybe trog's thing. You don't so much see SideSteel around anymore...

goldthistime

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Some of the topics posted here are baffling, sad, confusing. The ones that are most irritating to me are : "can I eat ______ calories day and be okay?" and "I eat ____ calories and I'm so full I can't meet my calorie goals".

Why don't we just validate them, let them do their thing, and then when it fails, they can come back ready for new knowledge.

I don't think validation is appropriate, but truthfulness is. Sometimes the truth is interpreted as meanness, or "haters" as some people say. I'm getting to the point to where I am tired of responding to these types of threads.

We should probably just post sexypants and maybe trog's thing. You don't so much see SideSteel around anymore...

You, by the way, are hardly a meanie. I haven't seen anything but helpful comments. I can say the same for lots of "old timers" here. And even the ones who come across as abrupt in some threads I see making kind supportive comments in others. I haven't yet felt offended personally, but I do cringe when I see someone in a vulnerable emotional state get overwhelmed.

likitisplit

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Some of the topics posted here are baffling, sad, confusing. The ones that are most irritating to me are : "can I eat ______ calories day and be okay?" and "I eat ____ calories and I'm so full I can't meet my calorie goals".

Why don't we just validate them, let them do their thing, and then when it fails, they can come back ready for new knowledge.

I don't think validation is appropriate, but truthfulness is. Sometimes the truth is interpreted as meanness, or "haters" as some people say. I'm getting to the point to where I am tired of responding to these types of threads.

We should probably just post sexypants and maybe trog's thing. You don't so much see SideSteel around anymore...

You, by the way, are hardly a meanie. I haven't seen anything but helpful comments. I can say the same for lots of "old timers" here. And even the ones who come across as abrupt in some threads I see making kind supportive comments in others. I haven't yet felt offended personally, but I do cringe when I see someone in a vulnerable emotional state get overwhelmed.

I have, in fact, been berated for my insensitivity and lack of compassion on these very forums.

And I've seen stupider comments directed at others too.

goldthistime

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Some of the topics posted here are baffling, sad, confusing. The ones that are most irritating to me are : "can I eat ______ calories day and be okay?" and "I eat ____ calories and I'm so full I can't meet my calorie goals".

Why don't we just validate them, let them do their thing, and then when it fails, they can come back ready for new knowledge.

I don't think validation is appropriate, but truthfulness is. Sometimes the truth is interpreted as meanness, or "haters" as some people say. I'm getting to the point to where I am tired of responding to these types of threads.

We should probably just post sexypants and maybe trog's thing. You don't so much see SideSteel around anymore...

You, by the way, are hardly a meanie. I haven't seen anything but helpful comments. I can say the same for lots of "old timers" here. And even the ones who come across as abrupt in some threads I see making kind supportive comments in others. I haven't yet felt offended personally, but I do cringe when I see someone in a vulnerable emotional state get overwhelmed.

I have, in fact, been berated for my insensitivity and lack of compassion on these very forums.

And I've seen stupider comments directed at others too.

I agree that posters often escalate the negativity. In their defense, they are sometimes left without an option for a graceful exit. Tough to have their shining misguided optimism about an idea turn into public humiliation.

likitisplit

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Some of the topics posted here are baffling, sad, confusing. The ones that are most irritating to me are : "can I eat ______ calories day and be okay?" and "I eat ____ calories and I'm so full I can't meet my calorie goals".

Why don't we just validate them, let them do their thing, and then when it fails, they can come back ready for new knowledge.

I don't think validation is appropriate, but truthfulness is. Sometimes the truth is interpreted as meanness, or "haters" as some people say. I'm getting to the point to where I am tired of responding to these types of threads.

We should probably just post sexypants and maybe trog's thing. You don't so much see SideSteel around anymore...

You, by the way, are hardly a meanie. I haven't seen anything but helpful comments. I can say the same for lots of "old timers" here. And even the ones who come across as abrupt in some threads I see making kind supportive comments in others. I haven't yet felt offended personally, but I do cringe when I see someone in a vulnerable emotional state get overwhelmed.

I have, in fact, been berated for my insensitivity and lack of compassion on these very forums.

And I've seen stupider comments directed at others too.

I agree that posters often escalate the negativity. In their defense, they are sometimes left without an option for a graceful exit. Tough to have their shining misguided optimism about an idea turn into public humiliation.

I have also, personally, been publicly spanked in the forums. Acknowledge where you were wrong, admit the need for more work on your part, ignore anything that feels like an attack. If all else fails, walk away from the thread for a day or more.

I'd hate to have to interact professionally with some of these people.

ETA - if you are legitimately being unfairly treated, I can guarantee that regular posters are reporting the offending posts.