Milk contains pus?!
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I always wondered how people can say they're allergic to eggs, but still be able to eat chicken...
The protein found in eggs is different from the protein found in chicken muscle.0 -
LOL!!!!!I always wondered how people can say they're allergic to eggs, but still be able to eat chicken...0 -
Humans are the only species on earth that drinks the milk of another mammal. We are also the only species that continues to drink milk after being weaned off of mother's milk. Just sayin'.
Humans have evolved the ability to digest the milk of other mammals, not just once, but at least twice. This evolved separately in Europeans and in the Masai people in Africa... it evolved because these populations domesticated cattle, originally for meat but later on for milk and dairy... natural selection favoured those who could continue to digest milk into adulthood.
Humans ecological niche is our ability to use technology to extract food from our surroundings. Just as our australopithecine ancestors started to make and use stone tools, and early humans figured out how to control fire, neolithic humans figured out how to cultivate plants and domesticate animals and dairy farming is part of that. This is what humans do.
Also, all animals evolve to be able to eat the food that's available for their species - or they go extinct. No food ever grows to suit a particular animal. Animals evolve to be able to eat specific foods, and when the environment changes so different foods are available, then those that can digest the new foods survive and those that can't die, and what's left in the population is those that can digest it....... that's how evolution works....... and in the case of Europeans, Masai people and other dairy farming/herding populations, it's likely that people who could digest lactose better had a greater chance of surviving food shortages due to being able to eat a particular food (dairy) that not everyone in the population could tolerate... so lactase persistence genes remained in the population and lactose intolerance genes were lost from the populations....
I am not sure about the Masai people in Africa, but from my understanding, the mutation allowing adult humans to digest milk. which is highly common in the European population (especially UK and Northern European countries), originated in the Middle East, and was taken into Europe as people migrated there.
It is correct. Masai as well. Now you're ready for any bizarre, totally out of left-field Jeopardy questions.
But I do wonder why no one ever mentions mare's milk among the people of Mongolia. Different type of milk? Or always fermented? Or some other reason?
And what about goats? Who gets credit for goat milk and when?0 -
Guess I shouldn't tell the OP about the parasites who live on her body, eating the scunge off her eyes. Or the parasites in her bedding who live off her dead skin cells?
Does anyone have a glass of milk? My throat is dry......
Don't forget the ones in your face whose untimely deaths may well be responsible for rosacea.
But really, even given all that, I still don't want to ingest the grossness of other creatures' effluvium. Is it so wrong to want to cut down on all around ick consumption?
Sure, but the reality is that it ain't going to happen. Even growing your own stuff in your own garden, think about all the bugs that live out there, various mammals and birds that come by and defecate on your crops, all the micro-organisms you can't even see living on them, etc. Washing only does so much. Nothing is truly clean, and while certain things warrant being wary of (pathogenic E. coli would be a good example), other things like cricket legs are really not worrisome in the sense of health and safety. Think of it as a virtually unavoidable protein boost.0 -
Not to mention orcas.
A better place by what criteria? And for how long?I don't drink milk anymore. I switched to an almond/coconut milk blend by Breeze. I get the sweetened and may eventually switch to the unsweetened. If you ever want to know why it has pus in it, go to youtube and watch a video on a dairy farm that got busted for animal abuse, it is why I went vegetarian 4 years ago, man is the most heartless animal on earth and I choose not to be a part of that. I will never look down on anyone who decides to eat meat, I just can't do it anymore personally.
Interesting statement. I would say that man is the LEAST heartless animal in the world. Do you think the cheetah cares about the suffering of the zebra as it eats the intestines first while the zebra is still alive? Do you think the beaver cares about replacing the trees it cuts down? Do you think an alligator tries to give another injured gator a helping hand? Nah, he'll probably just eat him in fact. Survival of the fittest, you do what you have to.
All life on the planet cares about survival and reproduction, period. They will do whatever it takes to survive, including abandoning deformed offspring (or for no apparent reason at all) or killing the children of its new mates so that it can further its own bloodline instead. Nature is endlessly cruel, humans are cruel too but we are at the furthest possible end of the spectrum. What animal cares more about sustainable farming, hunting, resources, the environment in general or the suffering of our fellow humans (and other animals)? None.
What other animal kills endangered species to the brink of extinction by hunting them just for money? That's not survival. That's just greed. At least other animals kill for survival, as we did long ago. We no longer need meat to survive. If humans were not on this planet, it would be a much better place.
And if humans are the most heartless, then why are we the only species that actually debates how we should or should not treat other species?
Has seen a cat play with a mouse. Therefore, agrees. For heartless, felines win. I have no doubt they are amoral creatures who will kill anything that moves. But they also win for cuteness.
Orcas are messed up, they'll play in the fun sense with a pod of dolphins one day, and then hunt that exact same pod of dolphins the next. My students freak when I show clips of them "playing" with the live sea lions.0 -
Mmmm, tasty pus.0
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Guess I shouldn't tell the OP about the parasites who live on her body, eating the scunge off her eyes. Or the parasites in her bedding who live off her dead skin cells?
Does anyone have a glass of milk? My throat is dry......
Don't forget the ones in your face whose untimely deaths may well be responsible for rosacea.
But really, even given all that, I still don't want to ingest the grossness of other creatures' effluvium. Is it so wrong to want to cut down on all around ick consumption?
Sure, but the reality is that it ain't going to happen. Even growing your own stuff in your own garden, think about all the bugs that live out there, various mammals and birds that come by and defecate on your crops, all the micro-organisms you can't even see living on them, etc. Washing only does so much. Nothing is truly clean, and while certain things warrant being wary of (pathogenic E. coli would be a good example), other things like cricket legs are really not worrisome in the sense of health and safety. Think of it as a virtually unavoidable protein boost.
If I think too much about it, I might develop a serious eating disorder, and it will probably end up named after me. Or they'll call it grossarexic and scorn my attempts to make it into medical texts. So unfair!
On the other hand, knowing I am the one who will ultimately be eating what I buy and prepare, I'm quite careful to inspect and wash everything I eat. I doubt the average underpaid food factory worker is as conscientious.
And that still doesn't explain some disgusting food scientists' determination to rely on squashed bugs for totally unnecessary additives that make food a pretty color. Who even thunk that one up?0 -
Oh no! Not! WHITE BLOOD CELLS! Whatever will we do? Quick hide your children, hide your wife!
But my children were breastfed and so they ingested all the white blood cells and immune complexes in my milk................ did I poison them?? what should I doooooooooooooooooooooooo???
Fed them some of the formula that was recalled for bug parts like I did?0 -
Did you know that tofu contains bacteria?0
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Having some with my Oreo's right now YUM! :drinker:0
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So, if cows milk is off the food chain, what do you drink then??? Some mentioned to use rice milk, well - it is contaminated with mercury. When my son was about 2 it was recommended from the pediatrician not to use rice milk anymore for toddlers and infants, because of mercury. A friend of mine fed her child only rice milk and she switch immediately to almond and cows milk.
So, before I put mercury in my body, I deal with the "white cells" in the cows milk, because "What doesn't kill us makes us only stronger"...LOL. The benefits of cows milk outweighs the risks.
As others already mentioned, if a farmer says that his cows has problems he doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't milk his cows at least every 12 hours. Additional, in Europe, cows are tested monthly on their "cell count" and the price the farmer receives for his milk depends on protein levels, cell levels and fat contents. So, a farmer depends on the health of his cows. During the milking process a independent controller takes a sample from each cow and the results will be forwarded to the farmer within 2-5 days. This ensures healthy and high quality dairy products. Most milk processing and dairy companies in Germany are a co-op of the dairy farmers of a region. Again, their milk price depends on the quality they deliver and additional bonuses from the proceed the co-op achieves.
I still drink milk and like it "utter-warm", but unfortunately it is in most states in the USA prohibited to sell/buy "raw-milk" from the producer. I miss that, knowing the cow, my milk came from.0 -
Lactose intolerant. Haven't had cows milk for decades. I don't drink almond or soy milk either. Milk is a useless part of the diet, but if you like it, then drink it.
I eat my share of unfertilized chicken fetuses though...0 -
Humans are the only species on earth that drinks the milk of another mammal. We are also the only species that continues to drink milk after being weaned off of mother's milk. Just sayin'.
Why are we the only species to cook our food...?
I have been asking myself this question for years. I have formed a hypothesis that it is because we are trained to. I have deduced that one could train another species to cook their food provided they have time and patience. I will get back to you in four years with the results of my attempts at training my dog to cook her own meals. In the meantime, there is no answer to this question.
On a serious note, OP, of course there is bodily secretion in milk .It comes from an animal. You might as well go vegan if you're concerned about consuming bodily secretions. :flowerforyou:0 -
Did you know that tofu contains bacteria?
So does my belly. I'm pretty sure my keyboard is also crawling with the stuff. It's really the association of infection that pus has that rightly disgusts people.0 -
It's fermented isn't it? Don't know much about tofu other than I like it in my hot and sour soup, but anything that's fermented has to contain bacteria, they're what do fermentation.Did you know that tofu contains bacteria?0 -
Cats drink cow's milk eagerly.0
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Humans are the only species on earth that drinks the milk of another mammal. We are also the only species that continues to drink milk after being weaned off of mother's milk. Just sayin'.
Humans have evolved the ability to digest the milk of other mammals, not just once, but at least twice. This evolved separately in Europeans and in the Masai people in Africa... it evolved because these populations domesticated cattle, originally for meat but later on for milk and dairy... natural selection favoured those who could continue to digest milk into adulthood.
Humans ecological niche is our ability to use technology to extract food from our surroundings. Just as our australopithecine ancestors started to make and use stone tools, and early humans figured out how to control fire, neolithic humans figured out how to cultivate plants and domesticate animals and dairy farming is part of that. This is what humans do.
Also, all animals evolve to be able to eat the food that's available for their species - or they go extinct. No food ever grows to suit a particular animal. Animals evolve to be able to eat specific foods, and when the environment changes so different foods are available, then those that can digest the new foods survive and those that can't die, and what's left in the population is those that can digest it....... that's how evolution works....... and in the case of Europeans, Masai people and other dairy farming/herding populations, it's likely that people who could digest lactose better had a greater chance of surviving food shortages due to being able to eat a particular food (dairy) that not everyone in the population could tolerate... so lactase persistence genes remained in the population and lactose intolerance genes were lost from the populations....
As you so insightfully pointed out in another post, humans evolved the ability to drink milk when they became mammals. We adapted to continue the trait into adulthood at least a couple of times since then.0 -
Humans are the only species on earth that drinks the milk of another mammal. We are also the only species that continues to drink milk after being weaned off of mother's milk. Just sayin'.
So not true. Just sayin'0 -
Why is a species going extinct a bad thing? Can you explain that?What other animal kills endangered species to the brink of extinction by hunting them just for money? That's not survival. That's just greed. At least other animals kill for survival, as we did long ago. We no longer need meat to survive. If humans were not on this planet, it would be a much better place.
I mean without invoking human values.
It's important to understand this because all of the value judgments you are making about humans are being based on human values to begin with. So your entire argument is rather circular and naive.
If we had no morality we wouldn't be outraged by things like the extinction of other species. We are unique in our capacity to knowingly care about something beyond ourselves.
If humans stopped existing, anyone who understands how/why cooperative behavior evolves will know that whatever other species that eventually developed intelligence would not start out being all nice and cuddly either. They'd be just as savage and heartless and destructive as our ancestors. Or alternatively no other intelligent life ever develops. And what would be so wonderful about a world that has no intelligent life? What's the point of a world that cannot know itself?0 -
We are unique in our capacity to knowingly care about something beyond ourselves.
As far as we know. Possibly not, though. Dolphins have been known to save human beings from shark attacks. For all we know, they do it consciously and for species preservation reasons. How do they know there are billions of us buggers on land?0 -
Better not eat honey then if milk puts you off. Or pretty much anything as most things have bugs and things in it.
Also, what exactly are you defining as pus? Or did you just see a dramatic statement that uses the word 'pus' as hyperbole?0 -
never mind wont quot for some reason lol0
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I prefer the taste of almond and soy milk to regular milk. Soy is WAY more widely available in Japan than almond milk, sadly, but in school lunches, you HAVE to have 200mL of whole milk with your lunch (as well as a heap of rice). I usually give mine away if I can, but if no one takes it, I chug it first to get it out of the way.0
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I think the entire purpose of the thread was so OP could go off on a misanthropic rant.Better not eat honey then if milk puts you off. Or pretty much anything as most things have bugs and things in it.
Also, what exactly are you defining as pus? Or did you just see a dramatic statement that uses the word 'pus' as hyperbole?0 -
I don't drink milk anymore. I switched to an almond/coconut milk blend by Breeze. I get the sweetened and may eventually switch to the unsweetened. If you ever want to know why it has pus in it, go to youtube and watch a video on a dairy farm that got busted for animal abuse, it is why I went vegetarian 4 years ago, man is the most heartless animal on earth and I choose not to be a part of that. I will never look down on anyone who decides to eat meat, I just can't do it anymore personally.
If it was a dairy farm, why did you not become a vegan?0 -
Or maybe human proportions and (from their view) clumsiness in the water trigger their "aww wookit the widdew baby" nurturing instincts.We are unique in our capacity to knowingly care about something beyond ourselves.
As far as we know. Possibly not, though. Dolphins have been known to save human beings from shark attacks. For all we know, they do it consciously and for species preservation reasons. How do they know there are billions of us buggers on land?0 -
People sure are squeamish:
From the US Food and Drug Administration's Food Defect Action Levels, the standard guide for allowable contaminants in food that producers are required by law to work with:
Canned sweet corn Insect larvae (corn ear worms or corn borers) 2 or more 3 mm or longer larvae, cast skins, larval or cast skin fragments, the aggregate length of insects or insect parts exceeds 12 mm in 24 pounds
Canned citrus fruit juices Insects and insect eggs 5 or more Drosophila and other fly eggs per 250 ml or 1 or more maggots per 250 ml
Canned apricots Insect filth Average of 2% or more by count has been damaged or infected by insects
Chocolate and chocolate liquor Insect filth Average is 60 or more insect fragments per 100 grams (when 6 100 g subsamples are examined)
Peanut butter Insect filth Average of 30 or more insect fragments per 100 grams
Wheat flour Insect filth Average of 150 or more insect fragments per 100 grams
Frozen broccoli Insects and mites Average of 60 or more aphids and/or thrips and/or mites per 100 grams
Hops Insects Average of more than 3,500 aphids per 10 grams
Ground thyme Insect filth Average of 925 or more insect fragments per 10 grams
Ground nutmeg Insect filth Average of 100 or more insect fragments per 10 grams
Ground cinnamon Insect filth Average of 400 or more insect fragments per 50 grams[3]
Shredded carrots Insect filth Average of 800 or more insect fragments per 10 grams[4]
You are eating what even the FDA refers to as "filth" every time you take a bite of food. Yummy yummy. Also...high in protein.0 -
Or maybe human proportions and (from their view) clumsiness in the water trigger their "aww wookit the widdew baby" nurturing instincts.We are unique in our capacity to knowingly care about something beyond ourselves.
As far as we know. Possibly not, though. Dolphins have been known to save human beings from shark attacks. For all we know, they do it consciously and for species preservation reasons. How do they know there are billions of us buggers on land?
True. But dogs and cats have sneakily evolved their skulls to do the exact same thing to us, at least according to some theories.
Come to think of it, though, the Siberian fur fox farm evolution kind of kills that theory, since didn't they develop dog-like head shapes (along with curly tails and spots) simultaneously with traits that made them compatible with humans? Then again, who knows? Maybe the humans mistakenly thought the 'cuter' ones with the rounded foreheads and big eyes were friendlier than they were.0 -
I don't drink milk anymore. I switched to an almond/coconut milk blend by Breeze. I get the sweetened and may eventually switch to the unsweetened. If you ever want to know why it has pus in it, go to youtube and watch a video on a dairy farm that got busted for animal abuse, it is why I went vegetarian 4 years ago, man is the most heartless animal on earth and I choose not to be a part of that. I will never look down on anyone who decides to eat meat, I just can't do it anymore personally.
Interesting statement. I would say that man is the LEAST heartless animal in the world. Do you think the cheetah cares about the suffering of the zebra as it eats the intestines first while the zebra is still alive? Do you think the beaver cares about replacing the trees it cuts down? Do you think an alligator tries to give another injured gator a helping hand? Nah, he'll probably just eat him in fact. Survival of the fittest, you do what you have to.
All life on the planet cares about survival and reproduction, period. They will do whatever it takes to survive, including abandoning deformed offspring (or for no apparent reason at all) or killing the children of its new mates so that it can further its own bloodline instead. Nature is endlessly cruel, humans are cruel too but we are at the furthest possible end of the spectrum. What animal cares more about sustainable farming, hunting, resources, the environment in general or the suffering of our fellow humans (and other animals)? None.
What other animal kills endangered species to the brink of extinction by hunting them just for money? That's not survival. That's just greed. At least other animals kill for survival, as we did long ago. We no longer need meat to survive. If humans were not on this planet, it would be a much better place.
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Or maybe human proportions and (from their view) clumsiness in the water trigger their "aww wookit the widdew baby" nurturing instincts.We are unique in our capacity to knowingly care about something beyond ourselves.
As far as we know. Possibly not, though. Dolphins have been known to save human beings from shark attacks. For all we know, they do it consciously and for species preservation reasons. How do they know there are billions of us buggers on land?
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