Turning on the BS Detector
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U ONLY HEARD 1 PART OF THE CONVERSATION U DON'T KNO IF THEY HAVE MEDICLE ISSUES THAT WOULD BE BECUASE OF THE ADVICE. ANYONE EVR TELL U U LOOK LIKE ANDY WARHOL?0
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Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
Exactly. How do they work in third breakfast and second lunch if they're stuck eating 1300 calories a day?
Portion control.
maybe they IF and just fit it all into one tiny window and label it different things?
they certainly IF while on long treks... which is surprising because they MUST be at a significant deficit and yet they don't seem to change in terms of size much. But when at home, they refer to a multitude of meals (breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies)...
And their larter is not calorie reduced items - replete with carbs and fats. And ale lots of ale.
I think I want to be a hobbit.
If only I didn't hate the idea of having hairy feet.
The Lady Remington comes in handy. *cough* Or so I've heard.0 -
Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
Exactly. How do they work in third breakfast and second lunch if they're stuck eating 1300 calories a day?
Portion control.
maybe they IF and just fit it all into one tiny window and label it different things?
they certainly IF while on long treks... which is surprising because they MUST be at a significant deficit and yet they don't seem to change in terms of size much. But when at home, they refer to a multitude of meals (breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies)...
And their larter is not calorie reduced items - replete with carbs and fats. And ale lots of ale.
I think I want to be a hobbit.
If only I didn't hate the idea of having hairy feet.
The Lady Remington comes in handy. *cough* Or so I've heard.
Nair..for everything. Seriously. Nair. Don't know if it has toxins tho'?0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Do I need to change it from black to like pink or something?
You should add me. I knows my stuff.As a certified PT since 1998, I whole heartedly agree with this. There are even "old school" trainers who still adhere to the broscience still being passed around the fitness industry today.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Wait, you're a certified PT??
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/310543-the-no-bs-exercise-instruction-thread?hl=the+no+bs+exercise
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/350212--why-scales-lie?hl=why+scales+lie
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Oh, now I see it says that in your signature. Sorry it was a little TL: DR
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
Most people who hire a trainer are going to be absolute newbies. As such, they likely do not realize that some trainers suck. When they are told the same BS "information" that they hear on daytime TV and from fad diet pushers. They assume it is correct because it sounds right to them and they typically have not taken the time to do any real research.
I didn't know there were other resources. I mean, popular media is very, very, very consistent about diet and exercise - avoid "junk foods," eat as little as you can, work each part of your body on different days. If there is no public debate, you don't even realize that there is another opinion to be had.0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Do I need to change it from black to like pink or something?
You should add me. I knows my stuff.As a certified PT since 1998, I whole heartedly agree with this. There are even "old school" trainers who still adhere to the broscience still being passed around the fitness industry today.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Wait, you're a certified PT??
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/310543-the-no-bs-exercise-instruction-thread?hl=the+no+bs+exercise
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/350212--why-scales-lie?hl=why+scales+lie
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Oh, now I see it says that in your signature. Sorry it was a little TL: DR
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yes pink, and in all caps and if possible it should be flashing.0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Do I need to change it from black to like pink or something?
You should add me. I knows my stuff.As a certified PT since 1998, I whole heartedly agree with this. There are even "old school" trainers who still adhere to the broscience still being passed around the fitness industry today.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Wait, you're a certified PT??
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/310543-the-no-bs-exercise-instruction-thread?hl=the+no+bs+exercise
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/350212--why-scales-lie?hl=why+scales+lie
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Oh, now I see it says that in your signature. Sorry it was a little TL: DR
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yes pink, and in all caps and if possible it should be flashing.
and add a gif...
and a link to testimonials
PS.. if you find out how to add color... let me know... I'm SO DOWN WITH THAT!0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Do I need to change it from black to like pink or something?
You should add me. I knows my stuff.As a certified PT since 1998, I whole heartedly agree with this. There are even "old school" trainers who still adhere to the broscience still being passed around the fitness industry today.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Wait, you're a certified PT??
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/310543-the-no-bs-exercise-instruction-thread?hl=the+no+bs+exercise
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/350212--why-scales-lie?hl=why+scales+lie
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Oh, now I see it says that in your signature. Sorry it was a little TL: DR
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
He knows his stuff. He's worked with clients for years.
Master’s of Science Degree in Exercise Science, I've never worked with anyone except in therapeutic yoga.
Sure... I can sit here and tell you about muscle types all day but you can easily just google it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tissue
I do my own research but will never have niner's experience.0 -
.....And how do you know that they know what they are doing? You ask about their training and certifications. You ask about their nutrition and training philosophy. You ask them how they work with injuries, what science their programs are based upon, whether they specialize in certain kinds of sports, and if you can talk with one or two of their most successful clients.
And then you turn on the bullsh-t detector and check every single thing they say to you. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Always. Lose four pounds a week? BS. 1500 cal workouts without sweat? BS. Ten pounds of new muscle in a month? BS. Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
sounds good in theory but doesn't tend to be very effective IRL
the typical newbie doesn't know the right answers to these questions so they can ask them all they want, but will have no idea if they answers they get are good or bad. if they already knew the right answers, they wouldn't be looking for a trainer. the "BS detector" will just be that "good feeling" they got when the trainer, good or bad, looked them directly in the eye and told them things without stuttering. if it sounds legit enough, they'll believe it, no matter how insane. this is basically what happens to me when i ask a mechanic what's wrong with my car.
and no one ever ever ever asks about certifications but it's a bunch of alphabet soup and the general population doesn't recognize one that requires extensive education and knowledge from one that i could get by mailing in cereal box tops. this is basically what happens to me when i'm trying to figure out which powerlifting organization a person holds their particular age record in.
If it doesn't work in real life, I think it is because most people, for the most part, default to "he or she is the expert mode" and don't ask simple questions like Can I talk to one of your most successful long-term clients? or What is my exercise plan based on? or Why do you believe that carbs are making me fat? Even beginners have to take responsibility for their well-being and, for better or worse, that means turning on the BS detector, asking questions and learning about what works and what doesn't. Falling victim to Dr. Oz, broscience exercise planning, or fantasy-fiction nutritional information is almost always a self-inflicted wound caused by some combination of not taking responsibility and wanting effort-free success.0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Do I need to change it from black to like pink or something?
You should add me. I knows my stuff.As a certified PT since 1998, I whole heartedly agree with this. There are even "old school" trainers who still adhere to the broscience still being passed around the fitness industry today.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Wait, you're a certified PT??
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/310543-the-no-bs-exercise-instruction-thread?hl=the+no+bs+exercise
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/350212--why-scales-lie?hl=why+scales+lie
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Oh, now I see it says that in your signature. Sorry it was a little TL: DR
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
He knows his stuff. He's worked with clients for years.
Master’s of Science Degree in Exercise Science, I've never worked with anyone except in therapeutic yoga.
Sure... I can sit here and tell you about muscle types all day but you can easily just google it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_tissue
I do my own research but will never have niner's experience.
But you do have his way with words!0 -
/begin rant
I was in a small gym today and overheard a "personal trainer" telling a client that he should be eating no more than 1500 cal a day, 250 cal at a time, to "maintain his weight" while working out six days a week for forty-five minutes. This guidance was given in the middle of a "circuit workout" that the trainer claimed was generating a 1000 cal/hour burn even though the client maintained a non-stop conversation while exercising. The client was 5'8" and, as far as I could tell, of average weight and fitness. He was, based on his workout, probably new to training.
I think it is a safe bet that this beginner was getting bad nutrition advice in the midst of a badly designed exercise program that won't accomplish anything unless his goal is hanging out in a gym for six hours a week. And paying for it. Given the gym, probably paying a lot for it. And I would go double or nothing on the bet that the "personal trainer" actually has little training in nutrition, exercise physiology, and from the instructions he was dispensing, designing or guiding an exercise program.
Why am I writing this? Because there are a lot of good personal trainers out there. They get good training. They keep themselves up to date. They don't dispense bullsh-t or magical shortcuts, just hard work in the form of good exercise prescriptions. And if you are a beginner or new to methodical training and want to work with a personal trainer, you need to find one. And do what he or she says.
And how do you know that they know what they are doing? You ask about their training and certifications. You ask about their nutrition and training philosophy. You ask them how they work with injuries, what science their programs are based upon, whether they specialize in certain kinds of sports, and if you can talk with one or two of their most successful clients.
And then you turn on the bullsh-t detector and check every single thing they say to you. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Always. Lose four pounds a week? BS. 1500 cal workouts without sweat? BS. Ten pounds of new muscle in a month? BS. Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit.
Why should you do this? Because a bad trainer will waste a lot of your time and money (best case) or injure you badly enough to disable you (worst case). And because, for every good trainer out there are two or three or more bad trainers (most of whom don't seem to know they are bad) waiting for you and you, as a beginner, can't tell the difference.
/end rant
that was a good rant! :drinker:
I got some really crappy advice on spot training my abs and spent months literally doing nothing to help decrease my actual body fat percentage or gain better health over all.
I like your BS Detector skillz!0 -
If it doesn't work in real life, I think it is because most people, for the most part, default to "he or she is the expert mode" and don't ask simple questions like Can I talk to one of your most successful long-term clients? or What is my exercise plan based on? or Why do you believe that carbs are making me fat? Even beginners have to take responsibility for their well-being and, for better or worse, that means turning on the BS detector, asking questions and learning about what works and what doesn't. Falling victim to Dr. Oz, broscience exercise planning, or fantasy-fiction nutritional information is almost always a self-inflicted wound caused by some combination of not taking responsibility and wanting effort-free success.
So what these people actually need is a personal [intellectual curiousity] trainer, who can help them cultivate their BS detectors and help them employ critical thinking skills in selecting trainers.
But who will train them on how to select a legitimate personal intellectual curiousity trainer?
WHO WATCHES THE WATCHERS, MR WARHOL?0 -
WHO WATCHES THE WATCHERS, MR WARHOL?
Please tell us Mr. Comedian 0 -
.....And how do you know that they know what they are doing? You ask about their training and certifications. You ask about their nutrition and training philosophy. You ask them how they work with injuries, what science their programs are based upon, whether they specialize in certain kinds of sports, and if you can talk with one or two of their most successful clients.
And then you turn on the bullsh-t detector and check every single thing they say to you. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Always. Lose four pounds a week? BS. 1500 cal workouts without sweat? BS. Ten pounds of new muscle in a month? BS. Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
sounds good in theory but doesn't tend to be very effective IRL
the typical newbie doesn't know the right answers to these questions so they can ask them all they want, but will have no idea if they answers they get are good or bad. if they already knew the right answers, they wouldn't be looking for a trainer. the "BS detector" will just be that "good feeling" they got when the trainer, good or bad, looked them directly in the eye and told them things without stuttering. if it sounds legit enough, they'll believe it, no matter how insane. this is basically what happens to me when i ask a mechanic what's wrong with my car.
and no one ever ever ever asks about certifications but it's a bunch of alphabet soup and the general population doesn't recognize one that requires extensive education and knowledge from one that i could get by mailing in cereal box tops. this is basically what happens to me when i'm trying to figure out which powerlifting organization a person holds their particular age record in.
If it doesn't work in real life, I think it is because most people, for the most part, default to "he or she is the expert mode" and don't ask simple questions like Can I talk to one of your most successful long-term clients? or What is my exercise plan based on? or Why do you believe that carbs are making me fat? Even beginners have to take responsibility for their well-being and, for better or worse, that means turning on the BS detector, asking questions and learning about what works and what doesn't. Falling victim to Dr. Oz, broscience exercise planning, or fantasy-fiction nutritional information is almost always a self-inflicted wound caused by some combination of not taking responsibility and wanting effort-free success.
Everybody has a successful client though.
My good friend works out with a trainer at our work gym and I'm constantly ignoring his advice on clean eating.
Here are his credentials: Nationally Certified Personal Trainer, Bachelor of Science degree in Exercise and a Master of Science degree in Sports Management.
He competes in body building. He sounds really compelling when he discusses meal timing and the effects of sugar, etc.
My friend has had great results.
Why should I be skeptical?0 -
Searching now.:laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Do I need to change it from black to like pink or something?
You should add me. I knows my stuff.As a certified PT since 1998, I whole heartedly agree with this. There are even "old school" trainers who still adhere to the broscience still being passed around the fitness industry today.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Wait, you're a certified PT??
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/310543-the-no-bs-exercise-instruction-thread?hl=the+no+bs+exercise
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/350212--why-scales-lie?hl=why+scales+lie
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Oh, now I see it says that in your signature. Sorry it was a little TL: DR
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yes pink, and in all caps and if possible it should be flashing.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
.....And how do you know that they know what they are doing? You ask about their training and certifications. You ask about their nutrition and training philosophy. You ask them how they work with injuries, what science their programs are based upon, whether they specialize in certain kinds of sports, and if you can talk with one or two of their most successful clients.
And then you turn on the bullsh-t detector and check every single thing they say to you. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Always. Lose four pounds a week? BS. 1500 cal workouts without sweat? BS. Ten pounds of new muscle in a month? BS. Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
sounds good in theory but doesn't tend to be very effective IRL
the typical newbie doesn't know the right answers to these questions so they can ask them all they want, but will have no idea if they answers they get are good or bad. if they already knew the right answers, they wouldn't be looking for a trainer. the "BS detector" will just be that "good feeling" they got when the trainer, good or bad, looked them directly in the eye and told them things without stuttering. if it sounds legit enough, they'll believe it, no matter how insane. this is basically what happens to me when i ask a mechanic what's wrong with my car.
and no one ever ever ever asks about certifications but it's a bunch of alphabet soup and the general population doesn't recognize one that requires extensive education and knowledge from one that i could get by mailing in cereal box tops. this is basically what happens to me when i'm trying to figure out which powerlifting organization a person holds their particular age record in.
If it doesn't work in real life, I think it is because most people, for the most part, default to "he or she is the expert mode" and don't ask simple questions like Can I talk to one of your most successful long-term clients? or What is my exercise plan based on? or Why do you believe that carbs are making me fat? Even beginners have to take responsibility for their well-being and, for better or worse, that means turning on the BS detector, asking questions and learning about what works and what doesn't. Falling victim to Dr. Oz, broscience exercise planning, or fantasy-fiction nutritional information is almost always a self-inflicted wound caused by some combination of not taking responsibility and wanting effort-free success.
Everybody has a successful client though.
My good friend works out with a trainer at our work gym and I'm constantly ignoring his advice on clean eating.
Here are his credentials: Nationally Certified Personal Trainer, Bachelor of Science degree in Exercise and a Master of Science degree in Sports Management.
He competes in body building. He sounds really compelling when he discusses meal timing and the effects of sugar, etc.
My friend has had great results.
Why should I be skeptical?
just use your bs detector?
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.....And how do you know that they know what they are doing? You ask about their training and certifications. You ask about their nutrition and training philosophy. You ask them how they work with injuries, what science their programs are based upon, whether they specialize in certain kinds of sports, and if you can talk with one or two of their most successful clients.
And then you turn on the bullsh-t detector and check every single thing they say to you. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Always. Lose four pounds a week? BS. 1500 cal workouts without sweat? BS. Ten pounds of new muscle in a month? BS. Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
sounds good in theory but doesn't tend to be very effective IRL
the typical newbie doesn't know the right answers to these questions so they can ask them all they want, but will have no idea if they answers they get are good or bad. if they already knew the right answers, they wouldn't be looking for a trainer. the "BS detector" will just be that "good feeling" they got when the trainer, good or bad, looked them directly in the eye and told them things without stuttering. if it sounds legit enough, they'll believe it, no matter how insane. this is basically what happens to me when i ask a mechanic what's wrong with my car.
and no one ever ever ever asks about certifications but it's a bunch of alphabet soup and the general population doesn't recognize one that requires extensive education and knowledge from one that i could get by mailing in cereal box tops. this is basically what happens to me when i'm trying to figure out which powerlifting organization a person holds their particular age record in.
If it doesn't work in real life, I think it is because most people, for the most part, default to "he or she is the expert mode" and don't ask simple questions like Can I talk to one of your most successful long-term clients? or What is my exercise plan based on? or Why do you believe that carbs are making me fat? Even beginners have to take responsibility for their well-being and, for better or worse, that means turning on the BS detector, asking questions and learning about what works and what doesn't. Falling victim to Dr. Oz, broscience exercise planning, or fantasy-fiction nutritional information is almost always a self-inflicted wound caused by some combination of not taking responsibility and wanting effort-free success.
Everybody has a successful client though.
My good friend works out with a trainer at our work gym and I'm constantly ignoring his advice on clean eating.
Here are his credentials: Nationally Certified Personal Trainer, Bachelor of Science degree in Exercise and a Master of Science degree in Sports Management.
He competes in body building. He sounds really compelling when he discusses meal timing and the effects of sugar, etc.
My friend has had great results.
Why should I be skeptical?
just use your bs detector?
You. You are my B.S. detector. You said I didn't have to eat clean and I believed you and I'm getting the results I want. Oops. Forgot to ask for certifications and happy clients.
But, it was the awareness that maybe there was a different answer that allowed me to ask the questions to do the research to be stupid on the MFP forums and get the feedback I needed to start putting it together.
I'm not going to judge myself pre-MFP. I was the same person. But the different environment = different results. People can't make changes if they're not aware that change is possible and that their efforts can make a difference.0 -
If that "use your BS detector" thing actually worked, there would be no need for something called "science" and in fact the word/concept wouldn't even exist and would be so alien that it wouldn't even work well as a plot device in a work of fiction.
In reality, our instincts are not tuned to detect actual truth, which is why when we finally invented a method that bypasses and does not rely on our instincts we finally started making progress in understanding how things actually work.
Also, the claims made by stronglifts sounded to good to be true when I first read about it. But it works.0 -
I live in NZ/middle earth, diary does have a second breakfast and I am short.... wait am I a hobbit???Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
Exactly. How do they work in third breakfast and second lunch if they're stuck eating 1300 calories a day?
Portion control.
maybe they IF and just fit it all into one tiny window and label it different things?
they certainly IF while on long treks... which is surprising because they MUST be at a significant deficit and yet they don't seem to change in terms of size much. But when at home, they refer to a multitude of meals (breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies)...
And their larter is not calorie reduced items - replete with carbs and fats. And ale lots of ale.
I think I want to be a hobbit.
If only I didn't hate the idea of having hairy feet.0 -
I live in NZ/middle earth, diary does have a second breakfast and I am short.... wait am I a hobbit???Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
Exactly. How do they work in third breakfast and second lunch if they're stuck eating 1300 calories a day?
Portion control.
maybe they IF and just fit it all into one tiny window and label it different things?
they certainly IF while on long treks... which is surprising because they MUST be at a significant deficit and yet they don't seem to change in terms of size much. But when at home, they refer to a multitude of meals (breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies)...
And their larter is not calorie reduced items - replete with carbs and fats. And ale lots of ale.
I think I want to be a hobbit.
If only I didn't hate the idea of having hairy feet.
If in doubt... look at your feet0 -
always have to check the feet. and sleeping habits- under ground? above ground?
OMG... someone please post a GIF of Kanya busting up the awards to shout out that Kim K is NOT a hobbit!!!
#southparkforever
I want to go to NZ- it's beautiful... we talked about getting married there.
the 4 digit price tag for the tickets alone disuaded us. But one day I want to go. so lovely. 0 -
*Checks feet* Nope not hairy... Jo you should visit. It is a beautiful country and I will offer you and yours a place to stay in exchange for a few lifting/training sessions.0
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If that "use your BS detector" thing actually worked, there would be no need for something called "science" and in fact the word/concept wouldn't even exist and would be so alien that it wouldn't even work well as a plot device in a work of fiction.
In reality, our instincts are not tuned to detect actual truth, which is why when we finally invented a method that bypasses and does not rely on our instincts we finally started making progress in understanding how things actually work.
Also, the claims made by stronglifts sounded to good to be true when I first read about it. But it works.
Pretty sure the BS detector is supposed to be used to detect 'suspicious' concepts or statements you should verify by looking up science other people have already done (hopefully). Not that it is 100% accurate in detecting BS in its own right.
My very limited personal experience is that a good personal trainer is hard to find. My last experience was with one that didn't know science from propaganda. But he tried to learn really hard. He was excited to find out I was a real-life scientist so he could discuss all of his theories about metabolism and diet ... not really my area, but I had enough background to know that either he completely misunderstood what he was reading, or the authors were speaking out of their *kitten*. I'm thinking probably both. On a positive note, he actually listened and got some new reading material. On a negative note, it wasn't any better than what he started with.0 -
The personal trainer I currently work with is AMAZING. Truly phenomenal when it comes to developing my physical abilities. I wish everybody had access to her. And she is wacked when it comes to theories of nutrition (every color fruit and vegetable has its own antioxidant - which is important for combating toxins. Wut?)
My pediatrician is stellar at explaining what I need to do to keep my children healthy. And unsupportive with breastfeeding challenges.
Should my B.S. meter go off with either of them?0 -
Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
DAMMIT YOU BEAT ME TO IT!0 -
Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
DAMMIT YOU BEAT ME TO IT!
It's the lack of GMOs. Or the plethora of mushrooms.0 -
The problem is that broscience propagates based on its appearance of plausibility. This is not something exclusive to diet and fitness memes. They evolve to be good at sounding reasonable to people who don't have the background to know better and will take "appears logically sound" as enough to disregard further critical examination.If that "use your BS detector" thing actually worked, there would be no need for something called "science" and in fact the word/concept wouldn't even exist and would be so alien that it wouldn't even work well as a plot device in a work of fiction.
In reality, our instincts are not tuned to detect actual truth, which is why when we finally invented a method that bypasses and does not rely on our instincts we finally started making progress in understanding how things actually work.
Also, the claims made by stronglifts sounded to good to be true when I first read about it. But it works.
Pretty sure the BS detector is supposed to be used to detect 'suspicious' concepts or statements you should verify by looking up science other people have already done (hopefully). Not that it is 100% accurate in detecting BS in its own right.
My very limited personal experience is that a good personal trainer is hard to find. My last experience was with one that didn't know science from propaganda. But he tried to learn really hard. He was excited to find out I was a real-life scientist so he could discuss all of his theories about metabolism and diet ... not really my area, but I had enough background to know that either he completely misunderstood what he was reading, or the authors were speaking out of their *kitten*. I'm thinking probably both. On a positive note, he actually listened and got some new reading material. On a negative note, it wasn't any better than what he started with.
And a lot of biology sounds bizarre or defies common sense or raises red flags.0 -
Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
1300 for elevensees.0 -
Living on 1300 cal/day and gaining muscle? BS, unless you are a hobbit......
I don't know... They walk EVERYWHERE, farm all their own food, and sometimes go on these crazy multi mile a day, multi month adventures... I'd imagine they'd need more thatn 1300 cals a day in order to maintain.
Plus, have you SEEN how much they eat to maintain their current body shape? There's no WAY they could build muscle on 1300 cals.
Just sayiin
DAMMIT YOU BEAT ME TO IT!
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