Must-Read INFO on Metabolism, Gaining and Losing

BillRicks1

In for future reference..........

feralkitten1010

I'm only here for the responses. :drinker:

hookilau

This thread has the potential to be very entertaining.

:laugh:

Cryptonomnomicon

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Today I learned IF is magic and there is no actual deficit in weight loss. laugh

No, large cuts make sense in certain individuals where rapid loss is appropriate given other health risks or an individual's mental capacity to persevere in a weight loss plan.

Btw, Layne isn't the biggest fan of IF.... (I'm not necessarily agreeing with his points here):

Yes, his name is Layne, Not Lyle!!!!

IF has no food crashes during the day, when people think of fasting they think of no food, obvs your uneducated because of the lack of response lmfao

Layne is a victim himself of what he preaches, but like I said, over your broscience crap, the proof is in the evidence, the evidence of studies. The large defecits that people create do catch up with them! AND YES SLOWWWWWW the metabolism, and indefinately over time

dang
im 22

I feel like I'm talking to 16 year olds

In!

because the person you quoted is probably one of the most educated individuals on MFP!

diannethegeek

Has the OP abandoned thread? I would like to learn more about how my 1700 calories are going to halt my weight loss.

AllonsYtotheTardis

In to watch a 22 year old with zero pounds lost tell everyone else how to do it. :laugh:

And lol at a 500 calorie deficit being too much :noway:

In. So in

nomeejerome

I need more coffee....

rybo

Oh to be 22 know everything and have the tactful delivery of a wrecking ball.

QueenBishOTUniverse

Since it's blowing up my feed anyways! IN, because it's the last day of summer school and I'm going to have some time on my hands. :drinker:

likitisplit

sweetcocobunny

Wait a minute, now that you edited your post things are clearer. You went back to your original maintenance *after* you lost weight? Of course you put weight back on. You need to readjust your maintenance accordingly.

Also, nutrition info is not nearly accurate enough to only be eating at a 50 cal deficit and hoping to lose weight.

zoeysasha37

In, to watch a crash and burn............

Tiernan1212

Is OP coming back?

gypsy_spirit

This is great. I might as well get in on the action:

OP, where did you "study nutrition" between the ages of 19 and 22?

I believe her profile states - "Currently living in China teaching english to children." and
"I enjoy studying nutrition and practicing a healthy lifestyle. "

I enjoy learning, too. Doesn't mean I am formally studying at present.

You can help Chinese children learn English, without being an English teacher.

dorisopen9

@EvgeniZyntx

My personal position is that, while meal frequency does have some effects on a variety of hormones, it really is a question of preference and not the single solution for all in terms of general weight loss. Thermogenesis studies tend to show that energy balance is really more about total calories than meal frequency or meal timing.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592618

I am sure you don't mind some science

Have you read this one:
http://www.diabetologia-journal.org/files/Kahleova.pdf

This suggests that meal frequency makes a difference, at least in type II diabetics. Not sure what the underlying mechanism is although I strongly suspect that insulin might be involved somehow. I'll certainly watch that space.

I apologise wholeheartedly to all spectators for pulling this thread back on a more factual level. :flowerforyou:

likitisplit

@EvgeniZyntx

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My personal position is that, while meal frequency does have some effects on a variety of hormones, it really is a question of preference and not the single solution for all in terms of general weight loss. Thermogenesis studies tend to show that energy balance is really more about total calories than meal frequency or meal timing.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592618

I am sure you don't mind some science

Have you read this one:
http://www.diabetologia-journal.org/files/Kahleova.pdf

This suggests that meal frequency makes a difference, at least in type II diabetics. Not sure what the underlying mechanism is although I strongly suspect that insulin might be involved somehow. I'll certainly watch that space.

I apologise wholeheartedly to all spectators for pulling this thread back on a more factual level. :flowerforyou:

This is what makes these threads terrific. Awesome info, great drama, gifs. MFP should start an HBO show.

George_Baileys_Ghost

@EvgeniZyntx

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My personal position is that, while meal frequency does have some effects on a variety of hormones, it really is a question of preference and not the single solution for all in terms of general weight loss. Thermogenesis studies tend to show that energy balance is really more about total calories than meal frequency or meal timing.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592618

I am sure you don't mind some science

Have you read this one:
http://www.diabetologia-journal.org/files/Kahleova.pdf

This suggests that meal frequency makes a difference, at least in type II diabetics. Not sure what the underlying mechanism is although I strongly suspect that insulin might be involved somehow. I'll certainly watch that space.

I apologise wholeheartedly to all spectators for pulling this thread back on a more factual level. :flowerforyou:

Aren't they discussing general weight loss for the public at large? How does something that affects a subset of people with a particular type of diabetes apply?

da_bears1008

IN

LolBroScience

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@EvgeniZyntx

My personal position is that, while meal frequency does have some effects on a variety of hormones, it really is a question of preference and not the single solution for all in terms of general weight loss. Thermogenesis studies tend to show that energy balance is really more about total calories than meal frequency or meal timing.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592618

I am sure you don't mind some science

Have you read this one:
http://www.diabetologia-journal.org/files/Kahleova.pdf

This suggests that meal frequency makes a difference, at least in type II diabetics. Not sure what the underlying mechanism is although I strongly suspect that insulin might be involved somehow. I'll certainly watch that space.

I apologise wholeheartedly to all spectators for pulling this thread back on a more factual level. :flowerforyou:

Aren't they discussing general weight loss for the public at large? How does something that affects a subset of people with a particular type of diabetes apply?

This was going to be my response up until the point where I realized I didn't care enough to type it out.

JTick

In.

ew_david

Colli78

dorisopen9

Aren't they discussing general weight loss for the public at large? How does something that affects a subset of people with a particular type of diabetes apply?

Because the difference between a fat person and a fat person with type II diabetes is often only the level of insulin resistance.

da_bears1008

i REALLY, want her to COME BACK! It's my absolute FAVORITE to read posts with emphasis on IMPORTANT WOOOOORRRRRRDS.

totes.

LolBroScience

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Aren't they discussing general weight loss for the public at large? How does something that affects a subset of people with a particular type of diabetes apply?

Because the difference between a fat person and a fat person with type II diabetes is often only the level of insulin resistance.

I think you miss the point

And no, it's not.

doowop713

In.

Yes. Yes. Just, yes.

In for when OP returns. If she returns.

George_Baileys_Ghost

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Aren't they discussing general weight loss for the public at large? How does something that affects a subset of people with a particular type of diabetes apply?

Because the difference between a fat person and a fat person with type II diabetes is often only the level of insulin resistance.

Evidence to support this comparison?

dorisopen9

And no, it's not.

Prove it.

jessicoria

All in for this one.

likitisplit

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Aren't they discussing general weight loss for the public at large? How does something that affects a subset of people with a particular type of diabetes apply?

Because the difference between a fat person and a fat person with type II diabetes is often only the level of insulin resistance.

Isn't that a pretty big difference?

Or is the idea that seeing how a system that malfunctions reacts in a specific set of circumstances gives us insight into mechanisms you wouldn't be able to flag in a normal system?