Cut out soda completely, and haven't lost a pound!

JaxDemon

You're not in a caloric deficit.

Start weighing, measuring, and logging every single thing that goes in your mouth.

Not drinking soda is not magically going to make you lose weight.

Can you explain to me why some really fat people, having a caloric deficit, and exercising like crazy do not lose a single pounds? and also, why some people, eating pizza, ice creams, burgers, sodas and a whole bunch of crap, do not get a single pounds?

The caloric deficit is a myth, if that works why there is so many fat people? pretty much every person that is doing weight loss diets is having a caloric deficit, but almost every single person get the weight back or they even add more, some is missing here.

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maidentl

My points, yes.. You can call me, us, whoever fat.. but there are people out there like me, who do have medical issues that contribute to it.

But they're still "fat." It's not a condemnation, it's a descriptive word.

SLLRunner

I'm only eating 1200 calories a day. I thought maybe I was replacing food but I was very cautious not too.

Perhaps you are underestimating your calorie intake. It's easy to do if you don't weigh your food and log everything that goes into your mouth. If you were truly eating 1200 calories, you would lose weight.

Are you logging food and exercise?

Do you weigh your food?

Do you log all your food, including drinks with sugar, butter, oil, condiments- EVERYTHING?

Concrete feedback could be provided if you open your diary. Now, it's all speculation.

SLLRunner

This makes my head hurt. To quote a doctor I once knew, "There are no fat people in concentration camps." Very harsh and blunt, but it's the truth. Calorie deficits DO work.

Here's the problem: searching for the trigger to YOUR weight loss is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Every other person out there has had to search for THEIR "needle". It's going to be different for everyone. You are unique. The combination of your unique daily activity level, age, current weight, metabolism, hormones, etc etc etc all combine to create an individual that canNOT be stuck with a computer generated stereotype such as "You must eat 1200 calories a day"!!!! If 1200 calories isn't working (which I would never recommend to any of my clients anyway, for several reasons), then keep digging!

You gave up soda, and 1200 calories isn't working. Excuse me, but what is the problem here? You've tried 2 (TWO) things! Keep digging! Try eating MORE (to the tune of a few hundred calories) and see what happens. Remember, fat is stored fuel. The body hoards it in case it needs it. A body that is well fed without being OVERfed will feel free to let go of those fuel reserves. I'm not promising you it's going to work; you need to find your "needle", and it isn't necessarily going to be easy. But using process of elimination---and giving each new scenario a couple weeks to see if it works---and above all, CONSISTENCY in logging your food, should give you answers in time. You just have to have patience, and want it badly enough.

**Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, and my advice isn't meant to take the place of seeking advice from a doctor. I'm a Certified Personal Trainer and Exercise Specialist with a few certs and degrees and I work with frustrated, overweight clients on a daily basis. You are very far from alone in the levels of frustration you are feeling right now.

Your doctor is right there are no fat people in concentration camps..Because their hormones are so stressed and food is so scarce for all.. not just the aft onces.

here again you are side stepping ..Yes the earth does appear flat..when you are on the outside looking in..


100% of every body in the concentration camp are being robbed of life force.. Give them calories with out the coorespeonding protein number (Pn#) they were designed to have and bam fat people all over the place..

Again using logic that does not deal with the facts only the appearance of fact.

I understand the want to hang on to a belief.. since you have never walked in another persons shoes.. especially some one who ahs a biology different than yours. Your biology says calories in calories out works....but you your self dont know your protein number.. because your lipolytic enzyme hormone portal operates great

calories in works for you.. You believe your life force gives you god like powers to know what every body should do..to exist in your image..

Ah I think not.. if youneed calories in to validate you great..

but allow the person struggling with unwanted body fat have a choice..Its not a lack of discipline..not will power or THEM doing all wrong as you finger point so handsomely..

i used the calories in/out.. and it is 100% faulty..

end of story.. It took 6 years to recognize that it was bunk..Now I soar past in both technique and ability to educate beyond your one way to skin a cat belief system

My name is Dances with wow..

Life force is coming for you.. and its going to leave a mark

Oh, for goodness sake.

ninerbuff

I haven't not had a single soda since May 22nd! I thought this would be a great thing to cut out. I would only drink real Coke not the diet ones and I was having at least 6, 12oz cans a day some days more! I have not lost a single pound! I thought by cutting out soda I would at least lose a few! Any ideas??

Cutting soda BUT not cutting calories overall (meaning you're comping calories for the soda somewhere else) WON'T result in weight loss.


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SLLRunner

Can you explain to me why some really fat people, having a caloric deficit, and exercising like crazy do not lose a single pounds? and also, why some people, eating pizza, ice creams, burgers, sodas and a whole bunch of crap, do not get a single pounds?

Because someone who is gaining os not eating at a calorie deficit, they just believe they are. It's SO easy to underestimate food intake and/or overestimate calorie burns.

Because a person who is eating that food is burning off any excess calories after eating all that food.

The caloric deficit is a myth, if that works why there is so many fat people? pretty much every person that is doing weight loss diets is having a caloric deficit, but almost every single person get the weight back or they even add more, some is missing here.

Really? A myth, huh?

You are grossly misinformed.

The reason we have an overweight society is because people make the choice to eat too many calories. There are foods out there that are loaded with calories, you know. There is a big difference in calories between a small piece of cake and a big piece. There is a difference in calorie intake between a quarter pounder and small fires and a double pounder with large fries.

In my experience, the overweight people I've seen eat, and that included ME when I was overweight, consumed pretty big portions.

Just because someone believes they are eating at a calorie deficit does not make it so.

ironanimal

If you're not in a deficit (by scientific definition, not assumption), you won't lose weight.

jimmmer

If you're not in a deficit (by scientific definition, not assumption), you won't lose weight.

Even if "the lifeforce is coming at you and it's going to leave a mark"?

Surely "although most of the earth has to flat advocates struggle with thinking they are not the gods who control destiny with counting" has shaken the confidence of your argument?

I don't know what else to say. Dances with WOW has truly shown us the way....

Cheeseburger85

You're not in a caloric deficit.

Start weighing, measuring, and logging every single thing that goes in your mouth.

Not drinking soda is not magically going to make you lose weight.

Can you explain to me why some really fat people, having a caloric deficit, and exercising like crazy do not lose a single pounds? and also, why some people, eating pizza, ice creams, burgers, sodas and a whole bunch of crap, do not get a single pounds?

The caloric deficit is a myth, if that works why there is so many fat people? pretty much every person that is doing weight loss diets is having a caloric deficit, but almost every single person get the weight back or they even add more, some is missing here.

It is not a myth
http://ca.askmen.com/sports/bodybuilding/why-calories-count.html

"But what about the laws of physics? Aragon told me that no such study exists that shows people being overfed and losing weight. What’s more, there is no study in existence that shows people being underfed and not losing weight. Numerous highly controlled metabolic ward studies have shown again and again that macronutrient ratios — carbs, fat and protein — do not matter when it comes to weight loss. Calories are always the common denominator. "

Hello my name is

Dances with Wow..

and the question of why a person using the calories and calories out doesnt loose weight consitently an dthe science behind its faulty is fully explainable..

although most of the earth has to flat advocates struggle with thinking they are not the gods who control destiny with counting..

The response questioning this.. is an awesome..ONE..

The reason why calories in versus calories out is a failed system conjured up to deal with behavior is because the scientist who developed the idea have no understanding of cause and effect on the human psyche, or the deeper mechanisms governing hormone creation and secretion or they do and it was intentional..

in depth hormone knowledge was not around when weight loss texts were being written

hormone research is still in its infancy..ever heard of bio identical hormone..ah less than 10 years old and only the rich can or those with awesome insurance can afford hormone treatment

HELLO!.

But the reality..as was so eloquently suspected.., calories counting is a man made understanding of metaboilsm missing a very power element..
Lipolytic enzymes..

people trying to loose unwanted body fat..possess different quantities, possess different potencies, and specific dietary triggers in order to populate the blood stream that is in direct proportions to combat unwanted body fat.

Calorie counting has absolutely zero means of examining or capturing this critical turnkey feature of evolution mother nature has built into our bodies.
The funny thing is its so easy to pin down..

But the wide spread arrogance in believing there is only ONE way to loose unwanted body robbs so many of life force..

In fact a food dairy recording your so called numbers masks this enzyme reaction completely..

Those people know who they are.. Steroid users ( and I am believer in using them) use steriods because thats a big reason they take them because it over rides the safety net and metabolic blue print they were born with..

Their lipolytic enzymes become more potent along with other repair processes that make gains over night rapid..I have no problem with this its when they try to say they know calories in and calories out is the bible that blows me away..

The science of calories in and calories out is not contemporary enough for todays lifestyle. It deals in recording hindsight. It forces the individual to not deal with will power correctly, it makes guilt the motivator not success..It forces the end user to avoid and dismiss the real issue.. of whats coming down the pike ..as they are so busy paying attention to numbers they have no idea how those numbers are impacting their lipolytic enzyme count or what amount of these enzymes are needed to compel unwanted body fat to stand down.

here is the reply I rolled out to some one else who is struggling with weight loss---

"The current way you are using your resources is in the direct line of fire..
As its not predictive..its not contemporary enough for what you trying to do. I wedges you into fear doubt and disbelief..

The resources Im talking about for one is your food diary.. its capturing info thats yesterdays news..to the body..

You are recording your eating history as it if its an accident that you have a birthday..a celebration, or a bad day..

would it not be more realistic to know a month in advance these potential eating stumbling blocks and counterfit food days. so they can be mitigated, side stepped, or prepared for in advance..Really!

Why deal in hindsight?

I have been advocating a food energy plan which lays all this out just once a month.. not every darn day obsessing over documentarian duties.

This would save you time.. more importantly though

You only go to it to record the events and eating that you fail to meet your own expectations. this way you actually see the misses that impacted your plan..and adjust going forward.

So if you have 8 misses.. you know the next time you concentrate on having only say 6 or 4 which would be a 50% improvement..thats banked and primed with positive reinforcement..as it records true willpower instead. of right and wrong with foods.and fixing micro stuff like picking lint off a carpet you just vaccumed.

Now thats something you can celebrate fast.. and accurately.. because you know you are going to have off days, birthdays, and events in your life..nothing wrong with those

Think about it. Every person and thats 100% of those using the calories in and calories out myth does.

Thats 100%..so ALL of you have longer protracted emotionally unsatisfying and a confusing road to stay on track.with

UHGG!!. Its a constant battle with discipline, motivation, and self esteem

Im not here to BS any body..But imagine an existence with life force.. where you map out once per month..have all 29 days of free time extra knowing on the 4th 12th 16th, the 17th and the 23rd will be iffy..

This is contemporary. Tthis is having an active crystal ball..This is easy to get control over..Avoid the head on..


I hope you can see.this as to me it seems way more motivating over the long hall with faster results.. with a food energy plan you do only 12 times a year..thats once a month and check off only those mishaps.. thats it..

the rest of the data filters out without splitting hairs.."


Until you are able to get a handle of hormones which dictate how calories will operate.. sorry counting calories is a hit or miss stat than can be kicked to the curb..

I use this food energy system and I can get as muscular, loose unwanted body fat faster than any steroid user any day of the week. and integrate into society without the lie I need to tell myself to have confidence in my personal abilities..

Im semi retired .. and six pack it all day long..
I guess I'd better start showing off my shred..

My name is Dances with WOW..
and life force is coming to those who want to avoid this calories in calories out one way to deweaponize unwanted body fat madness.

As far as your walking..or the activity part.. cardio only boosts lipolytic enzyme count only so high unless you are at a new threshold of muscle..

Your exertion and weight bearing activities have to be, every session, creating a learning relationship with your body..You are end on end creating drudgery..

Drudgery robs you of life force...
is there a theme here.. am I helping see the light..

If I am
please send your email..

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of this massively powerful ezymne

Could you please elaborate?

Samstan101

:laugh:

ironanimal

If you're not in a deficit (by scientific definition, not assumption), you won't lose weight.

Even if "the lifeforce is coming at you and it's going to leave a mark"?

Surely "although most of the earth has to flat advocates struggle with thinking they are not the gods who control destiny with counting" has shaken the confidence of your argument?

I don't know what else to say. Dances with WOW has truly shown us the way....

I'm not entirely sure what you said, but does this belief favour the use of hoods, candlelight, meeting at odd hours and ritual sacrifice?

If not, I'm not sure it can help weightloss tbh

jimmmer

If you're not in a deficit (by scientific definition, not assumption), you won't lose weight.

Even if "the lifeforce is coming at you and it's going to leave a mark"?

Surely "although most of the earth has to flat advocates struggle with thinking they are not the gods who control destiny with counting" has shaken the confidence of your argument?

I don't know what else to say. Dances with WOW has truly shown us the way....

I'm not entirely sure what you said, but does this belief favour the use of hoods, candlelight, meeting at odd hours and ritual sacrifice?

If not, I'm not sure it can help weightloss tbh

Well, I may have got this wrong, but there's something about his "massively powerful enzyme"

Sounds a bit sketchy now I've given it a bit more thought... like he may not actually be talking about enzymes.

hookilau

I haven't not had a single soda since May 22nd! I thought this would be a great thing to cut out. I would only drink real Coke not the diet ones and I was having at least 6, 12oz cans a day some days more! I have not lost a single pound! I thought by cutting out soda I would at least lose a few! Any ideas??

:blushing: wait...are you saying you've switched diet coke for regular coke & have not lost any weight? :huh:
If so..:laugh:

_Zardoz_

I drank Pepsi like it was water when I was in high school and of course gained a ton of weight from it. When I swore off of sugar filled drinks I dropped a good 20lbs without changing any other variables.

So you reduced your Calories and lost weight. The fact that the calories was soda has no bearing other than the pepsi cola company getting less money off you

Dnarules

You're not in a caloric deficit.

Start weighing, measuring, and logging every single thing that goes in your mouth.

Not drinking soda is not magically going to make you lose weight.

Can you explain to me why some really fat people, having a caloric deficit, and exercising like crazy do not lose a single pounds? and also, why some people, eating pizza, ice creams, burgers, sodas and a whole bunch of crap, do not get a single pounds?

The caloric deficit is a myth, if that works why there is so many fat people? pretty much every person that is doing weight loss diets is having a caloric deficit, but almost every single person get the weight back or they even add more, some is missing here.

Wow, just wow.

I do believe in all science laws, but if you all like science, then understand science.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me why some people do not lose a pound of weight despite being in caloric deficits and exercising. And also the other part, and I can talk for the other part, because I am 5.9 feet tall, I weight 130 pounds and eating 2500 calories a day does not make me gain any weight, I was even having a diet full of sugars, fat and nothing worked.

There is a basic premise that you all need to understand, to burn fat you need to trigger the fat burning hormones, which are 6, then you have 3 that store fat, if any of those is working around, you will not burn fat, again, unless you do destructive things in your organism, which is.. up to you if you want to do it, have you ever wonder why doctors just recommend no carbs diets or huge caloric deficits for very short periods of time?

For making your science of caloric deficit works you need to have a functional digestive system, but when we talk about caloric deficits, we are talking about 200-300 calories a day, as much.

Fat is stored energy, your body knows how much fat it needs, any excess will be burned, when you store more it is because something is wrong, and until you fix it you will not burn, there is something called leptin resistance that explains what I was talking about.

Wait a minute, so you came in here looking for answers but yet you are telling everyone what it is they need to understand? Is this real life?

Eta: never mind. Should have read further.

sunburntgalaxy

When I stopped drinking soda, but did nothing else to change my diet or increase my exercise, I had the same problem. I thought it was just the soda (at one point I drank as much as you did) but I learned quickly it wasn't. I am sure I added more food to compensate but at the time didn't realize it. I don't regret stopping the soda (but oh a nice cola sounds so good sometimes) but I did learn that isn't always the only thing that needs to change. I know for me it was really difficult to cut the soda out and I am sure that was for you so you should be proud of that because it is a big accomplishment in itself. If you want to loose weight too, you just need to eat less and exercise more. I haven't changed what I eat, but I have changed how much of it I eat (serving sizes are WAY smaller then I thought they should be - a scale is a really important thing to have) and how much I move around and I have lost 29 pounds since April. No matter what though, at least from where I am standing, you have already done something awesome by cutting the soda. Good luck!

Scarecrowsama

Really? A myth, huh?

You are grossly misinformed.

The reason we have an overweight society is because people make the choice to eat too many calories. There are foods out there that are loaded with calories, you know. There is a big difference in calories between a small piece of cake and a big piece. There is a difference in calorie intake between a quarter pounder and small fires and a double pounder with large fries.

In my experience, the overweight people I've seen eat, and that included ME when I was overweight, consumed pretty big portions.

Just because someone believes they are eating at a calorie deficit does not make it so.

Ok, so let's do this, any person who is doing any program, whether is for losing or gaining weight, follow this approach. If you eat 1200 calories, eat all of them from sugars, carbs, enjoy eating sweets, candies, pasta with tomato sauce and so on, tell me after that whether you gain weight or not.

I can't talk for people who don't know how to measure food, but there is so many people just eating veggies and chicken, fish and not losing weight.

The reason to have such an overweighted society is because people is miss informed, not their fault, the food industry is so big, and they spend a lot in advertisement, as well as giving some money for "research" curious that all the research this companies fund is always giving the results that they are looking for, I don't get why they pay for it...

We have to separate the US from the rest of the world, they eat too much crap, the soils are depleted hence they don't get enough nutrients in the foods, fake food everywhere, tons of sugar or artificial sweeteners with proven effects on insulin... that is why they have insane rates of diabetes type 2 and heart disease, sugar causes inflammation, which is the father of all evils in your health.

We, in Europe, are copying their style, lucky us we are still having better food choices but we are following the same patterns.

Add stress to that, you've got the cocktail, people do not realise how BIG is the influence of stress in our bodies, it shuts down every thing, does not allow you to rest and recover, makes you fat and eats your muscle, makes your hormones to stop working, your adrenal glands and liver work poorly, not to mention all the other psychological effects.

LosingItInDenver

How can people not see scarecrow is a troll is beyond me. People are actually engaging this person. This person...who has less than 20 posts and a brand new profile. As if they made a profile just to argue with people. Hmmmmmm...

If someone says something THAT ridiculous to where you get whiplash saying "ah hell naw", then most likely they are saying it to get a reaction and not to have a genuine conversation.

You know, when you say things that create big confusion people tend to react attacking the person, instead of asking or trying to understand, that is the troll behaviour, 500 years ago they burned you for saying that the earth is not a square, now they can't burn you, they just attack you, a few years ago (still nowadays in reality), people believe the myth of dietary cholesterol and saturated fats, before, if you say "eating eggs do not affect your cholesterol", people would be yelling at you, now that is starting to be known, is not so much.

When you read something controversial or that sounds "illogical" for what you know/believe, you have two options, ignore it or research about it, the secret option number 3 of attacking people is just a troll behaviour.

You seriously aren't comparing your internet ramblings to great philosophers and scientists who proposed the world was round, thereby risking angering rulers and churches and risking death? For reals? You aren't being persecuted, you are being debated - and every time you get bested, you whip some new argument out of your arsenal of baloney.

I have no doubt that you believe what you're saying, and on some points I may even be inclined not to argue because I think further research is needed in some areas of how certain foods affect our bodies metabolically, but the fundamentals still exist: for people without very specific types of medical conditions, the secret to weight gain/loss is eating above/below calories expended. End of story.

I'm willing to bet that you recently watched Fed Up. Do you hear Katie Couric's voice in your head?

AlliecoreXX

This makes my head hurt. To quote a doctor I once knew, "There are no fat people in concentration camps." Very harsh and blunt, but it's the truth. Calorie deficits DO work.

Here's the problem: searching for the trigger to YOUR weight loss is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Every other person out there has had to search for THEIR "needle". It's going to be different for everyone. You are unique. The combination of your unique daily activity level, age, current weight, metabolism, hormones, etc etc etc all combine to create an individual that canNOT be stuck with a computer generated stereotype such as "You must eat 1200 calories a day"!!!! If 1200 calories isn't working (which I would never recommend to any of my clients anyway, for several reasons), then keep digging!

You gave up soda, and 1200 calories isn't working. Excuse me, but what is the problem here? You've tried 2 (TWO) things! Keep digging! Try eating MORE (to the tune of a few hundred calories) and see what happens. Remember, fat is stored fuel. The body hoards it in case it needs it. A body that is well fed without being OVERfed will feel free to let go of those fuel reserves. I'm not promising you it's going to work; you need to find your "needle", and it isn't necessarily going to be easy. But using process of elimination---and giving each new scenario a couple weeks to see if it works---and above all, CONSISTENCY in logging your food, should give you answers in time. You just have to have patience, and want it badly enough.

**Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, and my advice isn't meant to take the place of seeking advice from a doctor. I'm a Certified Personal Trainer and Exercise Specialist with a few certs and degrees and I work with frustrated, overweight clients on a daily basis. You are very far from alone in the levels of frustration you are feeling right now.

Your doctor is right there are no fat people in concentration camps..Because their hormones are so stressed and food is so scarce for all.. not just the aft onces.

here again you are side stepping ..Yes the earth does appear flat..when you are on the outside looking in..


100% of every body in the concentration camp are being robbed of life force.. Give them calories with out the coorespeonding protein number (Pn#) they were designed to have and bam fat people all over the place..

Again using logic that does not deal with the facts only the appearance of fact.

I understand the want to hang on to a belief.. since you have never walked in another persons shoes.. especially some one who ahs a biology different than yours. Your biology says calories in calories out works....but you your self dont know your protein number.. because your lipolytic enzyme hormone portal operates great

calories in works for you.. You believe your life force gives you god like powers to know what every body should do..to exist in your image..

Ah I think not.. if youneed calories in to validate you great..

but allow the person struggling with unwanted body fat have a choice..Its not a lack of discipline..not will power or THEM doing all wrong as you finger point so handsomely..

i used the calories in/out.. and it is 100% faulty..

end of story.. It took 6 years to recognize that it was bunk..Now I soar past in both technique and ability to educate beyond your one way to skin a cat belief system

My name is Dances with wow..

Life force is coming for you.. and its going to leave a mark

Bwahahahaha! Best entertainment EVER!! So sorry, hunny pie. Next time I dare to enter into this type of conversation I'll throw away the 2 degrees I have in health/fitness and all the success I have had with my clients, steal a page from your book, and do a quick Google search to find the longest article with all the big words in it, then I shall proclaim myself WOW! :drinker: :flowerforyou:

LosingItInDenver

here again you are side stepping ..Yes the earth does appear flat..when you are on the outside looking in..

Au contraire, mon frere. Looking from the outside in to the earth, one can clearly see that it's round. It only appears flat when you are in the midwest.