Thyroid RANT

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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.

    make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.

    And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.

    The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.

    Ta. So much nicer than how u started the post.

    It wasnt ment to be "nice" or helpful, hence the capitolized "RANT" title
    We all get that.

    The question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?

    What is wrong with you that makes you do that?

    I am sorry that is your interpretation, your problem, not mine.
    Why do you think you started the thread that, by your own admission, was not meant to be nice or helpful, but just to rant about people who have medical conditions?

    Also, very interested in how you controlled your thyroid problem with diet and exercise, lol, seeing as it isn't possible. It's not Type II Diabetes, it's a thyroid. It can't be fixed or controlled by diet and exercise.

    Why do you think you went online and began a discussion about how you are better than other people?

    I am sorry you feel inadequate and then take my opinion as a personal attack at being better then you.

    And yes when I was young my hormone levels went down with diet and excersize and for many years I did not have to medicate. Time and age cought up with me and sadly that is not the case anymore.

    As I stated before I am sorry you are butt hurt, but you chose to open, read, and respond to this post.

    In the spirit of this post, you have control over yourself. If this post bothers you then click away from it, why let it anger you?

    Besides we all know what is on the internet is true! DUH!
    Thyroids cannot be fixed with diet and exercise.

    You didn't attacked me, personally. I don't feel personally attacked.

    You said you didn't start this to be helpful or nice. You said you didn't start this because you feel inadequate.

    So, why did you start this?

    What caused you to do it?
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    How's the weather up there?

    :laugh: :heart:
  • eggomylegos
    eggomylegos Posts: 146 Member
    I am really tired of the endless "hypothyroid" posts. "I cant lose weight because of my hypothyroid...."

    Geuss what, YOU CAN! I did and SO CAN YOU

    Does it make you feel tired, more hungry and lethargic when you thyroid is off? YES IT DOES

    Having a hypothyroid is not a free pass into laziville, it just means you have to dig deep and WORK HARDER than other people, it does not make your fitness goals IMPOSSIBLE

    SO STOP BLAMING YOUR THYROID!


    -End Rant-

    I agree that thyroid issues (any other health problem really) are not a free pass into Laziville.

    They are definitely a free pass into Adviceville, so long as the person asking is willing to listen and learn instead of whine and complain.
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  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member

    If you have Hashimoto's and are being successfully treated, it will NOT effect your ability to lose weight.

    THIS. This is key!!!! If the treatment isn't right, things will be harder. I will say when I was first diagnosed and the docs struggled with getting my levels near normal, I could barely function.

    I've had my RMR tested (before and after thyroid) and my metabolism is slower, so I eat less. It's about accepting what is and making the necessary sacrifices to get what you want. I also love the gym and lifting weights. Building muscle really helps physically and mentally!
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  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.

    make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.

    And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.

    The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.

    Ta. So much nicer than how u started the post.

    It wasnt ment to be "nice" or helpful, hence the capitolized "RANT" title
    We all get that.

    The question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?

    What is wrong with you that makes you do that?

    I am sorry that is your interpretation, your problem, not mine.
    Why do you think you started the thread that, by your own admission, was not meant to be nice or helpful, but just to rant about people who have medical conditions?

    Also, very interested in how you controlled your thyroid problem with diet and exercise, lol, seeing as it isn't possible. It's not Type II Diabetes, it's a thyroid. It can't be fixed or controlled by diet and exercise.

    Why do you think you went online and began a discussion about how you are better than other people?

    I am sorry you feel inadequate and then take my opinion as a personal attack at being better then you.

    And yes when I was young my hormone levels went down with diet and excersize and for many years I did not have to medicate. Time and age cought up with me and sadly that is not the case anymore.

    As I stated before I am sorry you are butt hurt, but you chose to open, read, and respond to this post.

    In the spirit of this post, you have control over yourself. If this post bothers you then click away from it, why let it anger you?

    Besides we all know what is on the internet is true! DUH!
    Thyroids cannot be fixed with diet and exercise.

    You didn't attacked me, personally. I don't feel personally attacked.

    You said you didn't start this to be helpful or nice. You said you didn't start the because you feel inadequate.

    So, why did you start this?

    What caused you to do it?

    People whinning about their thyroids and medical conditions, it is annoying.

    If I did not have low thyroid levels when I was younger due to diet and excersize then my doctor should be addressed, but that is neither here nor there.

    I am on medication and have been for a very long time, and oh yeah I lost weight, had a tumor and brain anuerism and almost died, twice, was bed bound, hospital bound and immobile, had to learn to walk talk and feed myself and cant feel half my face still....but hey I lost weight....


    Just general annoyance at "helpless" people and their lack of self respect and discipline.
    Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Some thyroid problems can, and do, prevent weight loss. Not all, but some. Your whole premise is flawed. I was chalking it up to ignorance, but now you've been told that not everyone is like you and some people have bigger problems.

    A general annoyance?

    You couldn't add it to another thread?

    You had to start yelling at people and telling everyone how much better you are because you are "generally annoyed?"

    Why does it annoy you?

    And what made the change from just a general annoyance into beginning a thread?
  • Therealobi1
    Therealobi1 Posts: 3,262 Member
    What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.

    make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.

    And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.

    The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.

    Ta. So much nicer than how u started the post.

    It wasnt ment to be "nice" or helpful, hence the capitolized "RANT" title
    We all get that.

    The question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?

    What is wrong with you that makes you do that?

    I am sorry that is your interpretation, your problem, not mine.
    Why do you think you started the thread that, by your own admission, was not meant to be nice or helpful, but just to rant about people who have medical conditions?

    Also, very interested in how you controlled your thyroid problem with diet and exercise, lol, seeing as it isn't possible. It's not Type II Diabetes, it's a thyroid. It can't be fixed or controlled by diet and exercise.

    Why do you think you went online and began a discussion about how you are better than other people?

    I am sorry you feel inadequate and then take my opinion as a personal attack at being better then you.

    And yes when I was young my hormone levels went down with diet and excersize and for many years I did not have to medicate. Time and age cought up with me and sadly that is not the case anymore.

    As I stated before I am sorry you are butt hurt, but you chose to open, read, and respond to this post.

    In the spirit of this post, you have control over yourself. If this post bothers you then click away from it, why let it anger you?

    Besides we all know what is on the internet is true! DUH!
    Thyroids cannot be fixed with diet and exercise.

    You didn't attacked me, personally. I don't feel personally attacked.

    You said you didn't start this to be helpful or nice. You said you didn't start the because you feel inadequate.

    So, why did you start this?

    What caused you to do it?

    People whinning about their thyroids and medical conditions, it is annoying.

    If I did not have low thyroid levels when I was younger due to diet and excersize then my doctor should be addressed, but that is neither here nor there.

    I am on medication and have been for a very long time, and oh yeah I lost weight, had a tumor and brain anuerism and almost died, twice, was bed bound, hospital bound and immobile, had to learn to walk talk and feed myself and cant feel half my face still....but hey I lost weight....


    Just general annoyance at "helpless" people and their lack of self respect and discipline.

    but why do you care, its their problem not yours? Seeing as you dont want to be helpful.
    the thing is and this is why i prompted you to give advice is because sometimes people just dont know how. So they might blame the illness, medication etc. I know its not the same but i used to blame the pill shot for putting on weight until i realised no its what i am eating that makes me put on weight and i need to control it.

    I have seen another thread not long ago with a lady asking for advice with the same illness, so people need help.
  • albayin
    albayin Posts: 2,524 Member
    everybody has ranted and anti-ranted. can we move on, please. Its July 4th in US, a cheerful holiday~
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    I am really tired of the endless "hypothyroid" posts. "I cant lose weight because of my hypothyroid...."

    Geuss what, YOU CAN! I did and SO CAN YOU

    Does it make you feel tired, more hungry and lethargic when you thyroid is off? YES IT DOES

    Having a hypothyroid is not a free pass into laziville, it just means you have to dig deep and WORK HARDER than other people, it does not make your fitness goals IMPOSSIBLE

    SO STOP BLAMING YOUR THYROID!


    -End Rant-
    Bulldookies honey, if you are not medicated you really can't lose weight. Before I was diagnosed I was doing all sorts of things, like running up and down the stairs 20 times every day, but not one pound budged. I had the fortunate circumstance of being friends with a weight lifter online at the time, and I did the things he told me to do and none of it worked...he said you are metabolically screwed up, go to the Doctor. I did, first Doctor "forgot" to do the thyroid test she said she would, dropped her, a year later the Doctor I still have diagnosed me.

    If you are not medicated properly, it is very possible to not be able to lose weight, and having gone through what I did (when the whole time I WAS trying to help myself) a post like yours just ticks me off.

    IF a person with thyroid disease is properly medicated, yes, they can lose weight, but the fact of the matter is a lot of Doctors just give you Synthroid, "here, take one of these a day", if it doesn't work for you, they don't try other meds. It is hard to find a good Doctor, the first Endo I had made me suffer for like 6 months even though my sex hormones were totally wacked out because of my thyroid being wacked out and I was a mess. Lose weight...I was lucky I could get out of bed, I could not even do my job properly after a few months of that.

    Stop being so darn judgmental, you don't know if people are medicated properly or not. If you have TD and can't lose weight, find a better Doctor and be proactive, because otherwise you might not get the help you need.

    Also T4 synthetic meds don't work for everybody, some of us don't convert it to T3 the active hormone as well and we either need additional T3 or dessicated prescription meds (that is what I take). It literally took years for my body to recover from not being properly diagnosed and not being properly treated. This is why I do NOT judge those having a hard time, I don't know where they are at and neither do you.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    What would be helpful is if you could provide more specifics in what they should do to help themselves. I can't believe none of them are trying.

    make a commitment and follow through on a diet and excersize routine even when we feel tired and results are slow, stick it out.

    And they dont try cuz its harder then regular people, we are always tired, aching, hungry. Like most people when results arenet instant or as quick as others, we give up.

    The advice is dont give up or use it as an excuse, eat at a defecit and it WILL happen.

    Ta. So much nicer than how u started the post.

    It wasnt ment to be "nice" or helpful, hence the capitolized "RANT" title
    We all get that.

    The question is why. What is wrong with you? Why do you feel so inadequate that you have to start threads showing off how much better you are?

    What is wrong with you that makes you do that?

    I am sorry that is your interpretation, your problem, not mine.
    Why do you think you started the thread that, by your own admission, was not meant to be nice or helpful, but just to rant about people who have medical conditions?

    Also, very interested in how you controlled your thyroid problem with diet and exercise, lol, seeing as it isn't possible. It's not Type II Diabetes, it's a thyroid. It can't be fixed or controlled by diet and exercise.

    Why do you think you went online and began a discussion about how you are better than other people?

    I am sorry you feel inadequate and then take my opinion as a personal attack at being better then you.

    And yes when I was young my hormone levels went down with diet and excersize and for many years I did not have to medicate. Time and age cought up with me and sadly that is not the case anymore.

    As I stated before I am sorry you are butt hurt, but you chose to open, read, and respond to this post.

    In the spirit of this post, you have control over yourself. If this post bothers you then click away from it, why let it anger you?

    Besides we all know what is on the internet is true! DUH!
    Thyroids cannot be fixed with diet and exercise.

    You didn't attacked me, personally. I don't feel personally attacked.

    You said you didn't start this to be helpful or nice. You said you didn't start the because you feel inadequate.

    So, why did you start this?

    What caused you to do it?

    People whinning about their thyroids and medical conditions, it is annoying.

    If I did not have low thyroid levels when I was younger due to diet and excersize then my doctor should be addressed, but that is neither here nor there.

    I am on medication and have been for a very long time, and oh yeah I lost weight, had a tumor and brain anuerism and almost died, twice, was bed bound, hospital bound and immobile, had to learn to walk talk and feed myself and cant feel half my face still....but hey I lost weight....


    Just general annoyance at "helpless" people and their lack of self respect and discipline.
    What levels were low? When you got older?

    I'm still eager to hear about how you think thyroids can be controlled with diet and exercise, too.
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  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    It's independence day and I can rant aimlessly if I chose, its my american made right!

    Happy 4th!
    You can and I can have my opinion that you are being judgmental when you don't really know your subject matter, I know that because if you did, you never would have said what you said.

    I guess consider the source applies.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    I am really tired of the endless "hypothyroid" posts. "I cant lose weight because of my hypothyroid...."

    Geuss what, YOU CAN! I did and SO CAN YOU

    Does it make you feel tired, more hungry and lethargic when you thyroid is off? YES IT DOES

    Having a hypothyroid is not a free pass into laziville, it just means you have to dig deep and WORK HARDER than other people, it does not make your fitness goals IMPOSSIBLE

    SO STOP BLAMING YOUR THYROID!


    -End Rant-
    Bulldookies honey, if you are not medicated you really can't lose weight. Before I was diagnosed I was doing all sorts of things, like running up and down the stairs 20 times every day, but not one pound budged. I had the fortunate circumstance of being friends with a weight lifter online at the time, and I did the things he told me to do and none of it worked...he said you are metabolically screwed up, go to the Doctor. I did, first Doctor "forgot" to do the thyroid test she said she would, dropped her, a year later the Doctor I still have diagnosed me.

    If you are not medicated properly, it is very possible to not be able to lose weight, and having gone through what I did (when the whole time I WAS trying to help myself) a post like yours just ticks me off.

    IF a person with thyroid disease is properly medicated, yes, they can lose weight, but the fact of the matter is a lot of Doctors just give you Synthroid, "here, take one of these a day", if it doesn't work for you, they don't try other meds. It is hard to find a good Doctor, the first Endo I had made me suffer for like 6 months even though my sex hormones were totally wacked out because of my thyroid being wacked out and I was a mess. Lose weight...I was lucky I could get out of bed, I could not even do my job properly after a few months of that.

    Stop being so darn judgmental, you don't know if people are medicated properly or not. If you have TD and can't lose weight, find a better Doctor and be proactive, because otherwise you might not get the help you need.
    Another person who had trouble getting diagnosed and we've lost nearly the same amount of weight (though you're ahead by five pounds.)

    The Synthroid (well, levo, I won't pay for the real thing) worked for me, after dosage adjustments. I've read before, here, how the Synthroid didn't work for people and how hard that is. I'm glad you got it sorted out.

    Yes, it is a little harder and never gets as easy as other people have it. If you're diagnosed and can be treated, it becomes possible. I'm always encouraging people to talk to endos, lol.

    Getting my thyroid issues fixed was the best thing that ever happened to me, after the brith of my son. I'm eternally grateful to the good docs.
  • Elsie_Brownraisin
    Elsie_Brownraisin Posts: 786 Member
    :yawn:

    Because having a challenging, horrible and difficult thing happen to you means you can later judge anyone you like, and then retort that they never had it as bad as you if they disagree with you, or allow you to belittle their experience with that 'first world problems' guff.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Again, how is it that you think thyroid hormone levels can be fixed with diet and exercise?
    It's independence day and I can rant aimlessly if I chose, its my american made right!

    Happy 4th!
    You can.

    The question is why you do. Why do you start topics about how you are better than others?

    You said you did not start this to be helpful or nice. You said you didn't start it out of deep feelings of inadequacy.

    So, why did a "general annoyance" with people who have medical problems turn into beginning a thread about how you are better than they are?

    Nobody is debating your right to do it.

    Just...why?
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    If you really have thyroid disease, there is no "cure". There is temporary thyroiditis some people get (which ironically, can be brought on by too much exercise), but that is not thyroid disease, that is a TEMPORARY inflammatory condition. Anybody who thinks they "cured" their temporary thyroiditis is just ignorant and does not understand the difference between the temporary condition and the real (and life long) disease.

    Also, if you have Hashimoto's (I do) it is like a roller coaster, you have your up and down times for years and years, your hyper and your hypo periods and in-between, until finally, after many years you become permanently hypo. Therefore, if you have this condition, you may think you "cured' yourself, but you may also be in for a rude awakening in years to come. Therefore, you should get an antibody test (can prove or disprove Hashi's) and if you have it, there is a school of thought that very low dose thyroid hormone can keep it from progressing as quickly.

    If you REALLY have thyroid disease, you have to find a Doctor who will work with you to find what medications and combinations of medications work best for you, it is not one size fits all.

    If you are not medicated properly, all I can tell you is me and many hypothyroid people I know (half the women on the maternal side of my family have Hashi's) you can have a bizarre reaction to exercise, like it totally wipes you out, way out of the bounds of how somebody should feel in relation to the particular exercise. If that is happening to you, you are not on the right meds, find a better Doctor, and I wish you luck because I know good Doctors are not always easy to find. Don't let anybody discourage you, and certainly don't listen to judgmental people, just keep looking for the help you need until you find it.
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    As a fellow thyroid sufferer i understand what the op is saying. Also am i the only one that suffers from severe legs cramps? Rapid heart beat??
    The leg cramps are probably unrelated, but I had palpitations often when I was hyperthyroid, and occasionally now that I'm hypo.

    I discussed mine with my endocrinologist, and he said not to worry. Definitely talk to your doctor(s) about both problems.
  • chunt87
    chunt87 Posts: 161 Member
    Good for you for losing the weight with the thyroid. I read the whole thread and some members asked what helped you lose. I am also interested to know how you managed the condition with diet and exercise. I gained a few pounds after getting diagnosed and I have been making them go the heck away slowly but surely.

    With the Drs I had I had to be my own patient advocate. They didn't know what was wrong with me for about a year, said I was allergic to wheat without running any tests, when I changed MDs, I wasn't allergic to anything with that one who had run tests.
    I had to argue that it would be beneficial to see a nutritionist as I was losing a considerable amount of hair. At that point before I saw that doctor I was falling asleep on they way to and from work, while I was there, and drinking more coffee than anyone should consume, and eating very little calories 1000/day to try to desperately maintain my weight.

    The nutritionist helped me alot, they got me to purchase a food scale so I would have accurate calorie counts, when I started feeling better I got a fitbit to help me get a more accurate tdee, along with a heart rate monitor that further educated me that cardio machines at the gym are very generous, and that my heart rate seems slower than others.

    I figured this out with my doctor: getting 1-2 pounds a week to go away when your thyroid hormones are in check with a 500-1000 deficit per day is very doable. But it has to be your actual real deficit, until the hormones were right and I was trying to lose I was losing only a half of a pound a week. My Dr explained to me that until the hormones are right you simply aren't burning that much. So until the hormones were close to normal I just watched my calories like a hawk and tried to exercise when I wasn't sleeping.

    Until those hormones are right, or at least with me, it was very very difficult because I felt sick all the time, and I'm sure other folks have had that feeling too. If you get in with a good physician in the beginning you are very fortunate but try not to be too harsh on others who have not had that. The people posting are probably looking for constructive advice from others who have had the same issue.
  • eggomylegos
    eggomylegos Posts: 146 Member
    If you really have thyroid disease, there is no "cure". There is temporary thyroiditis some people get (which ironically, can be brought on by too much exercise), but that is not thyroid disease, that is a TEMPORARY inflammatory condition. Anybody who thinks they "cured" their temporary thyroiditis is just ignorant and does not understand the difference between the temporary condition and the real (and life long) disease.

    Also, if you have Hashimoto's (I do) it is like a roller coaster, you have your up and down times for years and years, your hyper and your hypo periods and in-between, until finally, after many years you become permanently hypo. Therefore, if you have this condition, you may think you "cured' yourself, but you may also be in for a rude awakening in years to come. Therefore, you should get an antibody test (can prove or disprove Hashi's) and if you have it, there is a school of thought that very low dose thyroid hormone can keep it from progressing as quickly.

    If you REALLY have thyroid disease, you have to find a Doctor who will work with you to find what medications and combinations of medications work best for you, it is not one size fits all.

    If you are not medicated properly, all I can tell you is me and many hypothyroid people I know (half the women on the maternal side of my family have Hashi's) you can have a bizarre reaction to exercise, like it totally wipes you out, way out of the bounds of how somebody should feel in relation to the particular exercise. If that is happening to you, you are not on the right meds, find a better Doctor, and I wish you luck because I know good Doctors are not always easy to find. Don't let anybody discourage you, and certainly don't listen to judgmental people, just keep looking for the help you need until you find it.

    This is some really helpful advice. Thank you.

    My partner has hashimoto's. We are both making lifestyle changes to lose weight. The pounds are melting off of me while hers moves at a snail's pace. Exercise zaps her energy some days, others it's a boost. It's a total roller coaster and so very frustrating. After reading this, I feel better knowing that if she keeps at it and continues to work with her doctor she will be able to reach her goals.

    Someone much earlier in the thread also posted links to the Thyroid groups on the forums. Also helpful. Many thanks to those of you who were kind enough to share your experiences and advice.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Good for you for losing the weight with the thyroid. I read the whole thread and some members asked what helped you lose. I am also interested to know how you managed the condition with diet and exercise. I gained a few pounds after getting diagnosed and I have been making them go the heck away slowly but surely.

    With the Drs I had I had to be my own patient advocate. They didn't know what was wrong with me for about a year, said I was allergic to wheat without running any tests, when I changed MDs, I wasn't allergic to anything with that one who had run tests.
    I had to argue that it would be beneficial to see a nutritionist as I was losing a considerable amount of hair. At that point before I saw that doctor I was falling asleep on they way to and from work, while I was there, and drinking more coffee than anyone should consume, and eating very little calories 1000/day to try to desperately maintain my weight.

    The nutritionist helped me alot, they got me to purchase a food scale so I would have accurate calorie counts, when I started feeling better I got a fitbit to help me get a more accurate tdee, along with a heart rate monitor that further educated me that cardio machines at the gym are very generous, and that my heart rate seems slower than others.

    I figured this out with my doctor: getting 1-2 pounds a week to go away when your thyroid hormones are in check with a 500-1000 deficit per day is very doable. But it has to be your actual real deficit, until the hormones were right and I was trying to lose I was losing only a half of a pound a week. My Dr explained to me that until the hormones are right you simply aren't burning that much. So until the hormones were close to normal I just watched my calories like a hawk and tried to exercise when I wasn't sleeping.

    Until those hormones are right, or at least with me, it was very very difficult because I felt sick all the time, and I'm sure other folks have had that feeling too. If you get in with a good physician in the beginning you are very fortunate but try not to be too harsh on others who have not had that. The people posting are probably looking for constructive advice from others who have had the same issue.
    I fell asleep in the car once. Scariest thing ever! Those little rumbly, noisy things by the yellow line that they have to let people know they crossed the line? Thank God for them! That's what woke me up. I didn't wear a seatbelt then and if I hadn't woken up...best not to think about it. :)

    Waking up behind the wheel is very scary.

    People don't really understand what "fatigue" means when it's serious.

    They don't understand a lot of things.

    They really think that nobody has a real problem and is just using it as an excuse.

    Decades! I went decades watching people not believe it.
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
    Someone much earlier in the thread also posted links to the Thyroid groups on the forums. Also helpful. Many thanks to those of you who were kind enough to share your experiences and advice.
    MFP has two thyroid groups:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/770-hypothyroidism-and-hyperthyroidism
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/51427-butterfly-chasers

    And the Sexypants post should be required reading for every MFPer: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-Sexypants
  • socajam
    socajam Posts: 2,530 Member
    I am really tired of the endless "hypothyroid" posts. "I cant lose weight because of my hypothyroid...."

    Geuss what, YOU CAN! I did and SO CAN YOU

    Does it make you feel tired, more hungry and lethargic when you thyroid is off? YES IT DOES

    Having a hypothyroid is not a free pass into laziville, it just means you have to dig deep and WORK HARDER than other people, it does not make your fitness goals IMPOSSIBLE

    SO STOP BLAMING YOUR THYROID!


    -End Rant-

    Thank you for this post. They just seem to be endless

    As someone without a thyroid, it is hard, it can be done, even if it is a lot slower than "normal" people. It just take discipline, exercise and time. We just need to stay focus and think long term.

    Diet is very extremely important - cut out the junk, white flour/rice etc, sodas, sodium, soy, sugar. Eat as clean as your budget allows, this will go a long way in helping to reduce some of the symptoms.

    Lately I have reduced my carbs to 150 - 175 grams per day, (some days I consume less, but no more than 175). I find that I am not as bloated and feel a lot better. I eat three meals per day, with most of the carbs eaten at breakfast, then lunch and at dinner very few carbs eaten.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    Thank you for your post, OP! I ended up with hypothyroid due to genetics, and wasn't medicating it very well. So, when I decided enough was enough, I knew that was the first place to start!

    MFP and counting calories actually helped me find the correct dosage. I had a large bump in medication that put me into the hyper category so it got lowered. Suddenly, I couldn't lose anything. It was really frustrating, but since I could see that what I was doing should be working, I talked to my doctor, have the right dose, and everything is awesome!

    To the people who want to bash on the OP because she doesn't want to listen to everyone wallowing in self pity when it really, really isn't needed: Sounds like a personal problem.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    I know when I was diagnosed (Hashimoto's) and went to my very next session with my trainer and told him the news, he asked me: "so, what are you going to do now?" and I responded: "I'm going to have to work twice as hard and it's likely to take me twice as long to lose the weight, but it's not going to stop me." He nodded and said: "let's go." and then kicked my *kitten*.

    It's taken me two years to lose just over 90 pounds. In that time, I was diagnosed with the thyroid, plus PCOS, plus I tore most of the ligaments in my ankle that took about nine months to heal.

    It's slow, it's grueling, and at times, unbelievably depressing to struggle with each pound. BUT, it can be done. Having said that, I do have compassion for those who are so overwhelmed with their diagnosis and think it's impossible. You are going to have to dig deep and find that inner beast mode.

    ^^ this
    ----
    I also know that I can't speak for everyone with thyroid issues. My experience is mine, that's it. Individual results may vary.

    OP< your post was arrogant. Just because you have the disease doesn't mean that you should assume that another sufferer's experience is just like your own.

    Oversimplified OP is oversimplified.

    ETA: my sister also has hashi. Her experience has been very different from mine. It's like a freaking moving target with her. She's hyper, then hypo, oh look, she's hyper again. It's been horrid for her. Her weight goes up and down. Her moods go up and down. It's insane.

    Mine is consistently hypo, which is easier to medicate for, but the levels can fluctuate and it's tough to know whether a stall is because of behavior (even though you KNOW you are doing it right, you still second guess yourself), or your burn levels are set too high, or insertwhatevervariablehere____________ Yes, I've been able to make progress, grabbing onto those times where things work as they should. But you just have to look at someone like my sister to know that my experience is not like everybody else with thyroid issues, ever.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    I know when I was diagnosed (Hashimoto's) and went to my very next session with my trainer and told him the news, he asked me: "so, what are you going to do now?" and I responded: "I'm going to have to work twice as hard and it's likely to take me twice as long to lose the weight, but it's not going to stop me." He nodded and said: "let's go." and then kicked my *kitten*.

    It's taken me two years to lose just over 90 pounds. In that time, I was diagnosed with the thyroid, plus PCOS, plus I tore most of the ligaments in my ankle that took about nine months to heal.

    It's slow, it's grueling, and at times, unbelievably depressing to struggle with each pound. BUT, it can be done. Having said that, I do have compassion for those who are so overwhelmed with their diagnosis and think it's impossible. You are going to have to dig deep and find that inner beast mode.

    ^^ this
    ----
    I also know that I can't speak for everyone with thyroid issues. My experience is mine, that's it. Individual results may vary.

    OP< your post was arrogant. Just because you have the disease doesn't mean that you should assume that another sufferer's experience is just like your own.

    Oversimplified OP is oversimplified.

    ETA: my sister also has hashi. Her experience has been very different from mine. It's like a freaking moving target with her. She's hyper, then hypo, oh look, she's hyper again. It's been horrid for her. Her weight goes up and down. Her moods go up and down. It's insane.

    Mine is consistently hypo, which is easier to medicate for, but the levels can fluctuate and it's tough to know whether a stall is because of behavior (even though you KNOW you are doing it right, you still second guess yourself), or your burn levels are set too high, or insertwhatevervariablehere____________ Yes, I've been able to make progress, grabbing onto those times where things work as they should. But you just have to look at someone like my sister to know that my experience is not like everybody else with thyroid issues, ever.
    This.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Thank you for your post, OP! I ended up with hypothyroid due to genetics, and wasn't medicating it very well. So, when I decided enough was enough, I knew that was the first place to start!

    MFP and counting calories actually helped me find the correct dosage. I had a large bump in medication that put me into the hyper category so it got lowered. Suddenly, I couldn't lose anything. It was really frustrating, but since I could see that what I was doing should be working, I talked to my doctor, have the right dose, and everything is awesome!

    To the people who want to bash on the OP because she doesn't want to listen to everyone wallowing in self pity when it really, really isn't needed: Sounds like a personal problem.
    Oh, goodie. Another person who had it easy has joined in to whine about how hard it is for her to read about people who had it harder.

    Do go on. Tell us more about how rough it is for you to read about.
  • Lizajayne23
    Lizajayne23 Posts: 123 Member
    Sure, I can lose weight if I net less than 1000 calories a day even though my levels are normal. I lost the first 30 lbs this way. When my hair started falling out even worse I knew I couldn't continue to do that. For the past several months, I have tried everything from eating more to eating more/exercising more to eating little/exercising more. At 1200 calories net I maintain. At 1500 calories net, I gained a pound per week. My doctor sucks and ignores me. I've lost half of my hair since Christmas and I'm still at the same weight. I'm sure as hell not lazy, but I am exhausted.

    Do I whine and complain sometimes? Sure I do, because it's pretty darn miserable to live this way. If I want to complain on here, that's my American made right, too. Nobody makes you read those posts. That's the point of using a subject line. Maybe since you choose to read them, instead of ranting, you could direct your energy to helping people in this situation since you've been so successful. What kind of exercise plan did you employ? Exactly, not just the vague "lift weights". Meal plans or ideas? What did you eat? What were your go-to meals? I know I get tired of the fight, tired of eating nothing while my family eats hamburgers, baked beans, banana pudding, and about a dozen other things while I have grilled chicken and salad. Good but still not a juicy burger! Did I have some cookies and watergate salad? Sure, they fit into my allowance, but that didn't stop me from wanting everything on the table and yeah, I'm a little bitter over the lack of a burger on 4th of July and want to whine about it. LOL

    Anyhoo, whether someone is starting this fight or having a down day, we could all use tips, advice, ideas to stay on track with meals or motivation to put in some extra time exercising (which I do 6 days a week, 4 kettlebell/short cardio, 2 long cardio). No, it's not your job to help anyone, but why not turn those negative feelings into a positive?