Juice fast
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I think one day a month on just juice would be great. The stomach gets used to being filled up, so on fast day it would shrink a little bit, making the next day that much easier. I have a blood sugar problem, or I would do it.
Is that a theory of yours or do you have some medical science to back up the idea of stomach shrinking happening as a result of a liquid diet?0 -
Liquid diet is a good option If your jaw is wired shut , but it not works for all people. It is necessary to take some food with it. I think you shold also take some food with low calorie. It keeps you healthy as well as fit.
does not compute.....
liquid diet = no solids...that's why it's called a liquid diet0 -
I am doing a 9 day cleanse with isagenix. its not to bad. on day 7 now and lost 5 lbs. I am almost at my goal so its more for the cleanse then the weight loss. With no coffee- or my wine at night I feel great! Once I am done though- its back to small portions and counting my calories. Good Luck!0
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I have been off this site for 8 months . I could not maintain a 14 to 1500 calorie a day plan which is essential if you really want to lose weight. I know i will get skeptics but the only real solution for me was to go on juice fast I am on day 7 and i lost 11 lbs . MFP is great but what i lost in 7 days would have taken me more than a month with MFP What i have learned during this fast which i might end by the end of next week , is to appreciate small amts of food fruits veggies etc. It is much easier to transition to 1400 calories or less per day after doing a juice cleanse because although you will lose weight there is a price to peid and that is pure torture and some starvation. If you stick to the green juices every 3 hrs or so you wont feel hungry but at some point you will crave food but not in that drastic sense as if you just drank water . I will be back on the calorie count shortly
Just know that when you start eating again, you will gain about 5 pounds. I know, I've done it several times. Fasting works but it's only short term. Have you tried the 5:2 plan? This is outlined in the book, The Fast Diet.0 -
^^^ This is exactly what I came here to say. Cleanses are generally ineffective, and "toxins" don't exist. Even the Wiki article cites that there is no evidence that these undefined toxins exist, and that it has been entirely rejected by the vast majority of scientists - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detoxification_(alternative_medicine) . There's a lot of pseudoscience floating around the world of diet and nutrition, and we've really got to make an effort to stick with methods that are actually supported by science.
Crash diets don't work. You always end up gaining back most of the weight you lost. I am new here, but I started using this site because I actually want to change my lifestyle in a meaningful way. I didn't gain weight overnight, so why should I expect to lose it overnight? I want to start eating and exercising in a way that is sustainable. A diet that severely restricts my diet and calorie intake would be miserable.0 -
In to learn more about how I should have gained 30 lbs eating the amount of delicious solid food I eat.0
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Yes!! Every time someone mentions "toxins" to me I say: "Name one. Just one "toxin" that you cleanse from your system."
The body has its own cleansing mechanisms and you use one of them just about every day- your adzhole. Cleanses do nothing more than make you defecate what you would normally defecate sooner. Ever notice that the people pushing the cleanses rarely have medical degrees? Or they say that modern medicine isn't effective in ridding the body of these undefinable poisons. So, pseudoscience can detect things that modern science cannot?
Snake-oil salesman used to use the exact same techniques to sell their wares: scare people with unsupported claims and then say their product can clean them out. Well, if you can't define them in the first place, how do you know your cleanse is getting them out?0 -
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Mostly in for science but I'll try to write a thoughtful response....
OP, I have never done a juice fast and I'm not entirely sure what you're juice consists of. You did mention green juice so I'm assuming mostly green veggies. Regardless, the juice derived from fruits and vegetables will be packed with vitamins and minerals and carbs, great. But you're neglecting fat and protein both of which are required to maintain a balanced diet. I agree with most others in here that you are losing mostly water weight, some fat and certainly some muscle with the lack of protein consumption. However, you seem to be fine with the fact that it is mostly water weight. After all, a downward movement on the scale is something to celebrate. The issue with water weight is that it comes back once you start eating solid foods and working out. So don't be surprised by the end of your fast if you gain 90% of the weight back. To me it would be a waste of time to gain that weight back because I much rather have spent the week eating more solid and delicious foods.
But to your point that this will make the transition into maintaining a 1,400-1,500 calorie diet easier when the fast is over. Because I have never done a fast I do not know if that is true but I can understand your logic. You're basically saying that you've gotten used to eating/drinking a low daily calorie amount so it won't be hard to continue to eat at 1,400-1,500. However, you sound like you have never done this fast before so you don't actually know how your body will adjust.
I do wish you get the LONG TERM results you are looking for and that this fast can help "jump start" a SUSTAINABLE weight loss plan. If you are looking for something long term then, yes, you will need to start counting calories (logging and weighing food).0 -
Just my $0.02, but as a male, isn't 1400-1500 kind of low? I'm set to eat 1700, and I'm female.
FWIW, I mean...
No wonder you feel like you're abusing the calories.....You're prolly hangry as hell, too, as well as beating yourself up for being unable to successfully eat what may well be too few calories...
But you're gonna do what you want to do, in spite of what responses you get.
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You know, this term "haters" is immature because it's used against anybody who says the truth about anything on here. Since you brought this up, aren't you a "hater" of people who tell the truth about vLCD consisting of juicking?Juice cleaned will always have haters..
I've always wanted to try one ever since I watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead on netflix. Congrats to you! I hope it makes transitioning to a diet which allows you to live a healthy lifestyle easier
I hope to tackle a one week juice fast as well, but first I need the money to buy a juicer.
Seriously, there is nothing innately wrong with juicing. In fact, homemade juice is delicious, it's great as a snack or with a meal, and people do fast in different ways for religious and spiritual reasons, but when juicing is used as a weight loss method, you are setting yourself up for failure. Why? Because you are using a VLCD in hopes of getting fast results that will last, which is the reason for yo yo dieting and people being unable to keep their weight off. And, I speak from years of experience on this.0 -
(snip) The stomach gets used to being filled up, so on fast day it would shrink a little bit, making the next day that much easier.(snipped)
Is that a theory of yours or do you have some medical science to back up the idea of stomach shrinking happening as a result of a liquid diet?
Might be a "theory of yours...." but it's TOTAL BS, yet another in the long litany of MYTHS that constantly get repeated on this (and most other weight loss Forums.
There is NO "science" (as you obviously know), BUT that NEVER STOPS the legion of self-proclaimed "experts" from repeating the "dogma". Short of surgery, there is NO medical evidence, no controlled clinical studies that validate the MYTH that the "stomach shrinks". ("appetite" or degree of satiety may decline but that is for entirely different reasons than "my stomach shrank".)
Years ago there was an excuse.....actually "learning" what the "facts" are, required a trip to the library and a modicum of effort.
Today, with almost universal access to the googlemachine (or others)....there is simply no excuse but that never stops the ideologues (regardless of what "issue" they pontificate on.0 -
(snip) The stomach gets used to being filled up, so on fast day it would shrink a little bit, making the next day that much easier.(snipped)
Is that a theory of yours or do you have some medical science to back up the idea of stomach shrinking happening as a result of a liquid diet?
Might be a "theory of yours...." but it's TOTAL BS, yet another in the long litany of MYTHS that constantly get repeated on this (and most other weight loss Forums.
There is NO "science" (as you obviously know), BUT that NEVER STOPS the legion of self-proclaimed "experts" from repeating the "dogma". Short of surgery, there is NO medical evidence, no controlled clinical studies that validate the MYTH that the "stomach shrinks". ("appetite" or degree of satiety may decline but that is for entirely different reasons than "my stomach shrank".)
Years ago there was an excuse.....actually "learning" what the "facts" are, required a trip to the library and a modicum of effort.
Today, with almost universal access to the googlemachine (or others)....there is simply no excuse but that never stops the ideologues (regardless of what "issue" they pontificate on.
They did a pressure nanometric measurements in volunteers who agreed to swallow what were essentially small balloons. They found, to their surprise, that the EFFECTIVE volume of the stomach did fall after fasting over a period of time.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/health/22real.html?_r=0
If you ingest enough liquids, however, this may or may not be a factor. The advantage of liquids is that the stomach sends off "full" signals to the brain, which handles them usually by blunting the feeding response. A big difference from a calorie standpoint if the stomach is full of water or ice cream!!
The stomach is seeming to become more and more important in the obesity equation.
In fact, the stomach has over 100 million neurons in it, comparable to the number of neurons in the spinal cord!!!
Huge ramifications there.
The key, as I post again and again, is to avoid slamming your stomach with huge amounts of food. Or at least, that's a start.
Dr. Hagan has it right..."Breakfast: The Least Important Meal of the Day"
^regardless you can have your stomach shrink just from surgery? Doesn't mean it is healthy or a good thing to do - MFP is for sustainable change VLCDs - and I do fast occasionally myself - are not healthy long term, and I only do them if I have something coming up I need my abs to pop for - I know my head will be a wreck, my body will not feel as able, and I'm not going to sleep as well.
^VLCDs are dumb for serious weight loss - just get your tush on a caloric deficit and eat clean if you can.0 -
Not sure what VLCDs are.
Big difference from the the effective volume of the stomach shrinking due eating smaller-volume meals and stomach surgery.
Exposed to the same amount of crap, the stomach will sure expand to accommodate the load- over time.
I am not an expert on stomach surgery nor do I want to be.
If you have surgery, you are admitting defeat and give the impression that surgery was your only option.
That is not psychologically healthy and sets a bad example for others.
Hagan's group fasted during the morning without restrictions in the afternoon. After a few days, the participants found that they COULDN'T eat as much as they did before. Even a simple partial day water fast- kept up consistently- was enough to normalize the size of the stomach.
^I agree - I went on an apple/laxative fast myself and had my stomach shrink.
was it healthy?
-no
did I get results?
-yes
was it sustainable?
-no
fast work for short term thinking - but for long term winning you got to eat at a deficit, and exercise regularly for weight loss - and I recommend HIIT to boot.
jelly of your glasses - they look sharp btw - thought you were a Dr. for a post or two.
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why is everyone being negative0
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why is everyone being negative
Was that a question ? Or a statement !0 -
why is everyone being negative
Some people are posting science.
People who don't like science equate it to negative.0 -
I like red juices more than green ones.
Be careful. I heard from Dr. Oz that red juice makes you fat. 0 -
So then you drink a glass of milk and eat a piece of bread gain back the 11 pounds overnight, plus another 10. Nothing new about this.0
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idk i guess a statement maybewhy is everyone being negative
Was that a question ? Or a statement !
all they were saying was that they were going on a juice fast so, its no one elses life but theirs so its not like it matters. I dont get why everyone has an attitude.0 -
lmao kkwhy is everyone being negative
Some people are posting science.
People who don't like science equate it to negative.0 -
idk i guess a statement maybewhy is everyone being negative
Was that a question ? Or a statement !
all they were saying was that they were going on a juice fast so, its no one elses life but theirs so its not like it matters. I dont get why everyone has an attitude.
Once again.....
Some people are posting science.
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lmao
Stick around and you'll figure it out.
idk i guess a statement maybewhy is everyone being negative
Was that a question ? Or a statement !
all they were saying was that they were going on a juice fast so, its no one elses life but theirs so its not like it matters. I dont get why everyone has an attitude.
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idk i guess a statement maybewhy is everyone being negative
Was that a question ? Or a statement !
all they were saying was that they were going on a juice fast so, its no one elses life but theirs so its not like it matters. I dont get why everyone has an attitude.
Once again.....
Some people are posting science.
People who don't like science equate it to negative.0 -
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