Does low carb make you lose faster?
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It feels like carbs are in everything! What are you guys eating to only eat 25g or so a day? Lots of meat?
Usually, lots of fat. Most ketogenic diets are low carb, high fat and moderate protein as too much protein can throw you out of ketosis as well.0 -
How many calories do you eat per day?
1300-1500
So 150 carbs would be between 40-46% of your diet. I think (and someone correct me if I am wrong) but low carb is considered 25% or below of your total calories. I know you already cleared it up that you meant low carb "for you" but just wanted to give you the info.
I don't think there is a clear definition of "low carb". Some consider it the carbs needed to get in to and stay in ketosis -- like the initial stage of Atkins which is less than 25 carbs per day. Others consider higher numbers and some call it low carb or lower carb -- and those numbers I've seen anywhere between 50-150g per day, but usually they aren't in ketosis or trying to get into ketosis with those numbers. They just restrict their carbs for other reasons, usually insulin resistance related from diabetes, prediabetes, PCOS, etc.
Hmmm, I always thought it was a percentage of your intake. I know I read it somewhere.0 -
Can I just say I love Carbs! and I Love CHEESE all food is a vehicle for cheese and cheese is great on a nice crusty artisan bread!0
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Can I just say I love Carbs! and I Love CHEESE all food is a vehicle for cheese and cheese is great on a nice crusty artisan bread!
Agreed. I
cheese. That's why I put on so much weight LOL 0 -
Can I just say I love Carbs! and I Love CHEESE all food is a vehicle for cheese and cheese is great on a nice crusty artisan bread!
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And goes remarkably well with red wine as well0 -
I tried low-carb once and didn't stick with it for long because it sapped my energy. Have seen people post that after cutting carbs they had MORE energy than before. I was probably doing it wrong, not eating any vegetables. If I ate low-cal vegetables like leafy greens, do you think that would make me feel better on a low carb diet?0
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It feels like carbs are in everything! What are you guys eating to only eat 25g or so a day? Lots of meat?
Back when I strictly low carbed mine would range typically between 20-35. My diet consisted primarily of meat/seafood, eggs, non-starchy vegetables, oils/butter/mayo, nuts and some cheese.
I don't low carb anymore but the above, save more fruit, still make up about 80% of my diet that I like to, and enjoy, eating.0 -
Yes.They can also produce better results to the extent you're more insulin resistant, as many obese people are.
So you really thought that I was implying many obese people are on low carb diets and because of their low carb diets the obese people are insulin resistant? Low carb diets can produce better results if you're insulin resistant, as many obese people are. That's pretty well-known and hardly a radical idea. Use a bit of context and common sense when you read.
"They can also produce better results to the extent you're more insulin resistant, as many obese people are." The "to the extent" implies you become more insulin resistant by eating low carb. That is where I got confused because, afaik, low carb doesn't create insulin resistance. The sentence structure and word choice really confused me, and apparently others, too.0 -
Can I just say I love Carbs! and I Love CHEESE all food is a vehicle for cheese and cheese is great on a nice crusty artisan bread!
Agreed. I cheese. That's why I put on so much weight LOL
I eat cheese every day Full fat cheese. I am 5'5.5 and weigh 126 lbs If I want more cheese I just have to walk more and do more yoga
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Yes.They can also produce better results to the extent you're more insulin resistant, as many obese people are.
So you really thought that I was implying many obese people are on low carb diets and because of their low carb diets the obese people are insulin resistant? Low carb diets can produce better results if you're insulin resistant, as many obese people are. That's pretty well-known and hardly a radical idea. Use a bit of context and common sense when you read.
"They can also produce better results to the extent you're more insulin resistant, as many obese people are." The "to the extent" implies you become more insulin resistant by eating low carb. That is where I got confused because, afaik, low carb doesn't create insulin resistance. The sentence structure and word choice really confused me, and apparently others, too.
I won't argue it could be written more clearly. Just when there's an obviously correct interpretation and one that's nonsensical, I'd think people would choose the former over the latter. In any event, it's been clarified.0 -
Can I just say I love Carbs! and I Love CHEESE all food is a vehicle for cheese and cheese is great on a nice crusty artisan bread!
+1
And goes remarkably well with red wine as well
I feel a dinner party coming on! I will bring the CHEESE 0 -
I tried low-carb once and didn't stick with it for long because it sapped my energy. Have seen people post that after cutting carbs they had MORE energy than before. I was probably doing it wrong, not eating any vegetables. If I ate low-cal vegetables like leafy greens, do you think that would make me feel better on a low carb diet?
When you initially go into ketosis you experience the Atkins flu. That's probably why you were so tired.0 -
Can I just say I love Carbs! and I Love CHEESE all food is a vehicle for cheese and cheese is great on a nice crusty artisan bread!
Agreed. I cheese. That's why I put on so much weight LOL
I eat cheese every day Full fat cheese. I am 5'5.5 and weigh 126 lbs If I want more cheese I just have to walk more and do more yoga
I would do serious mileage for cheese!!0 -
It feels like carbs are in everything! What are you guys eating to only eat 25g or so a day? Lots of meat?
Meats, full-fat cheeses, dark leaf veggies.0 -
The anti-carb warriors seem to forget thisFYI- protein also creates an insulin response.
Nope, we don't. At least, not the smart ones.
OP: Read the research, make your own decisions(mind you, the anti-lc warriors will find some way to ignore any study that does not agree with their POV). If you find it easier to stick to low carb, than it will work faster because you keep to it. If shoveling rice, pasta, and potatoes are your thing, as long as you keep under your calories, it will work too.0 -
I tried low-carb once and didn't stick with it for long because it sapped my energy. Have seen people post that after cutting carbs they had MORE energy than before. I was probably doing it wrong, not eating any vegetables. If I ate low-cal vegetables like leafy greens, do you think that would make me feel better on a low carb diet?
What you experienced was normal. I experienced the same thing for about three weeks. Then once I was keto-adapted, my energy came back. What helps is upping the water, and taking in more potassium, magnesium and sodium.0 -
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I believe this question was already thoroughly answered in your previous post: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1347263-do-you-believe-in-strictly-calories-in-calories-out
I don't recall ever asking this question in that thread. That thread did get very, very long and someone else may have brought it up.
Are you saying you didn't keep up with the replies to your own post?
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there is more than just calories in calories out. There is hormonal regulation to weight loss. I've seen fitness/bikini competitors eating 1100 calories a day and doing double session cardios plus weight training and not drop a pound. It doesnt make any sense but it happens. There is so much that is unknown when it comes to weight loss.0
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there is more than just calories in calories out. There is hormonal regulation to weight loss. I've seen fitness/bikini competitors eating 1100 calories a day and doing double session cardios plus weight training and not drop a pound. It doesnt make any sense but it happens. There is so much that is unknown when it comes to weight loss.
That is not humanly possible0 -
When I stopped and switched to "good carbs" whole wheat and what not I lost 65 lbs in 3 months (diet and a hard core workout routine) but the I'm sure the lower/good carb switch had a lot to with it.
Dont agree that whole wheat is a "good carb". White bread and wheat bread have the same amount of carbs. You might argue that wheat bread has more nutrients than white bread, but carb wise its just as bad.
I wonder if the OP means 'whole grain' instead of 'whole wheat'?0 -
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there is more than just calories in calories out. There is hormonal regulation to weight loss. I've seen fitness/bikini competitors eating 1100 calories a day and doing double session cardios plus weight training and not drop a pound. It doesnt make any sense but it happens. There is so much that is unknown when it comes to weight loss.
It’s called metabolic adaptation. That picture you painted is very common. You know one of the best ways to kill metabolism? Long cardio sessions. There is no stress, no room to grow and improve. Your metabolic rate adapts to the exercise. This is what fitness is, burning less calories than before for a given activity. For this to happen your entire metabolic rate has to slow down.
Add that on top of a VLCD, metabolic havoc. Their metabolic rate is shot. If they’re not losing weight is because they’re not burning more calories than they consume. Once again, Calories In Vs Calories Out. No Exceptions.
If this were the case my days of being a runner would have ruined me. I was not only running every day but on the crew team and lifting. (no kids back then)
but I burned a hell of a lot of calories in a day. Now I eat normally and just walk. 0 -
It feels like carbs are in everything! What are you guys eating to only eat 25g or so a day? Lots of meat?
Meats, full-fat cheeses, dark leaf veggies.
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there is more than just calories in calories out. There is hormonal regulation to weight loss. I've seen fitness/bikini competitors eating 1100 calories a day and doing double session cardios plus weight training and not drop a pound. It doesnt make any sense but it happens. There is so much that is unknown when it comes to weight loss.
It’s called metabolic adaptation. That picture you painted is very common. You know one of the best ways to kill metabolism? Long cardio sessions. There is no stress, no room to grow and improve. Your metabolic rate adapts to the exercise. This is what fitness is, burning less calories than before for a given activity. For this to happen your entire metabolic rate has to slow down.
Add that on top of a VLCD, metabolic havoc. Their metabolic rate is shot. If they’re not losing weight is because they’re not burning more calories than they consume. Once again, Calories In Vs Calories Out. No Exceptions.
If this were the case my days of being a runner would have ruined me. I was not only running every day but on the crew team and lifting. (no kids back then) but I burned a hell of a lot of calories in a day. Now I eat normally and just walk.
You were a runner. Runners focus on improving. This is what I said previously about adaptation. Runners usually focus on increasing their times and mileage.
Most people who are in to fitness competition as the person described who eats 1100 does a lot of cardio, doesn’t fall in to that category. They decide I am going to do cardio for 60mins two times a day. They set the treadmill to maybe 3-4mph and do cardio. Once time is up, it’s up. They are done. No progress in terms of increased mileage or time. Nothing there to keep your metabolic rate challenged. Increasing time and/or mileage challenged your metabolic rate.
I really just think I was a masochist 0 -
I eat low carb (max 200 grams a day) and I've been losing consistently.
200 grams is low carb???
On most days I have around 150g....unless it is pizza night. I never considered that low carb...I just look at it as moderate.
Hmmm0 -
It's just calories in versus calories out.
A calorie is a calorie regardless if it comes from carrots or cookies, protein, fat or carbs.0 -
It's just calories in versus calories out.
A calorie is a calorie regardless if it comes from carrots or cookies, protein, fat or carbs.
I don't know...maybe. However...a calorie from a cupcake or ice cream tastes much better than a calorie from a carrot...IMO. There just really isn't any comparison between those calories...unless...you are talking about carrot cake cupcakes...0 -
It feels like carbs are in everything! What are you guys eating to only eat 25g or so a day? Lots of meat?
I eat everything my carb-thriving counterpart eats, just without the starch/sugar. That means things like eggs, cream, cheese, nuts, meats, lots of non-starchy veggies.
Main dishes might include stuffed peppers, chili con carne, stews, soups (sans noodles) etc. Usually my dinner plate is a serving of meat & double veggies. Veggies may be au gratin or a dinner salad, chef's salad, greek etc.
Chia seeds, Coconut oil, butter, avocado & fat from pasture raised animals are what I use for my fats.
ETA: I try to keep my carbs to <25/day0
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