Robbin Wiliams Dead?!

AllOutof_Bubblegum

Wow, last person I would think that would take his life. So sad.

The last person, huh? Really? You must not have known much about his personal life. While I am deeply saddened by the news, it is anything but shocking. It was a long time coming. Depression is no joke. Poor guy.

Lilly_the_Hillbilly

I think it's fair to understand the pain and anger felt by the people left behind when a loved one takes their own life. I do not think it's fair to call it cowardly.

MyM0wM0w

I hope he's found the peace that he couldn't seem to find in life. He gave laughter and joy to countless people as well as being a great philanthropist.

He deserves our respect for what he overcame and accomplished in his life and our sympathy for what he wasn't able to overcome that caused his death.

My heart goes out to his family and close friends. This tragedy left a huge void in everyone's life that loved how he made us laugh.

Myhaloslipped

Wow, last person I would think that would take his life. So sad.

The last person, huh? Really? You must not have known much about his personal life. While I am deeply saddened by the news, it is anything but shocking. It was a long time coming. Depression is no joke. Poor guy.

Yes. He has been struggling with addiction and depression for pretty much his entire adult life. I only hope that he has finally found some peace.

FabulousFantasticFifty

I have no words

LesliemarieAZ

Oh, this is good. Please tell me all about it. You may find this hard to believe, but you're not the only one to walk down these paths.

I didn't say that I was the only one, nor am I the one who is calling people names (and neither were you but I do note your sarcasm and I did read your post before you edited it).

My only point is that there are two sides - the one of the grieving family/friend and the one of the overwhelmed and burdened person in pain. I think both sides should be looked on with love, understanding, and compassion. I know there is a lot of pain left behind, but there was also a lot of pain before it happened.

Perhaps I'm just not getting my point across correctly, so I'll just bow out of the conversation. I hope you can find peace in your grief.

georgiaTRIs

Hard to believe

LuisEOJr

O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills,
For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
Here Captain! dear father!
The arm beneath your head!
It is some dream that on the deck,
You’ve fallen cold and dead.

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still,
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will,
The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done,
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won;
Exult O shores, and ring O bells!
But I with mournful tread,
Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

amunet07

just got home from work and saw a friend posted about it on Facebook. I don't even personally know the man and it felt like a punch to the stomach.

so sad

layla_luvyah

It shocked the hell out of me...you really never know what is going on to make someone want to take their on life.
It's extremely sad:frown:

hookilau

I was hoping it was a hoax but it doesn't look like it :frown:

me too =/

SunofaBeach14

Me being an *kitten* hat and it wasn't necessary. I'm sorry.

ihad

People deal with grief in different ways and in their own timeframes.

Here's a good article for some perspective, with an important quote that reads: "Remember, grieving is a personal process that has no time limit, nor one “right” way to do it."

http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/000617

The five stages of grief is one well known model for understanding the grieving process, and in using it as a tool, it's important to stress there's no set order for going through the stages.They aren't always linear, and you can't simply deny or wish away the raw emotions of a stage. You can't tell someone to not be angry or sad or to simply get over it.

Understand people are at different places in dealing with this issue. Attacking each other and how we grieve isn't the best way to go here.

SunofaBeach14

People deal with grief in different ways and in their own timeframes.

Here's a good article for some perspective, with an important quote that reads: "Remember, grieving is a personal process that has no time limit, nor one “right” way to do it."

http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/000617

The five stages of grief is one well known model for understanding the grieving process, and in using it as a tool, it's important to stress there's no set order for going through the stages.They aren't always linear, and you can't simply deny or wish away the raw emotions of a stage. You can't tell someone to not be angry or sad or to simply get over it.

Understand people are at different places in dealing with this issue. Attacking each other and how we grieve isn't the best way to go here.

^ Someone needed to post this. I also need to step back.

danasings

People deal with grief in different ways and in their own timeframes.

Here's a good article for some perspective, with an important quote that reads: "Remember, grieving is a personal process that has no time limit, nor one “right” way to do it."

http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief/000617

The five stages of grief is one well known model for understanding the grieving process, and in using it as a tool, it's important to stress there's no set order for going through the stages.They aren't always linear, and you can't simply deny or wish away the raw emotions of a stage. You can't tell someone to not be angry or sad or to simply get over it.

Understand people are at different places in dealing with this issue. Attacking each other and how we grieve isn't the best way to go here.

Thank you, ihad.

LAT1963

O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills,
For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
Here Captain! dear father!
The arm beneath your head!
It is some dream that on the deck,
You’ve fallen cold and dead.

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still,
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will,
The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done,
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won;
Exult O shores, and ring O bells!
But I with mournful tread,
Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

Dead Poet's Society.

The first movie I saw him in a dramatic role.


on another topic, happy is the forum reader who has discovered the ignore function. This thread should remain focused on the loss of a cultural icon, not angry trolls.

Squirrel698

He was beloved by many. This is truly a sad day.

Depression is a disease that is often fatal. End of story.

ebayaddict0127

Unless you've suffered from mental illness, you have no idea what he or anyone else who commits suicide is going through.

dmoses

So very sad. This breaks my heart. I hope he can now be at peace.

beths4kids

I know, I'm stunned

HeidiGrrrl

Wow! He was just here in MN at Hazelton for rehab maintenance. My SIL and BIL saw him 2 weeks ago at the Dairy Queen in their town where Hazelton is located.

Severe depression as of late. Probably due to his show having been cancelled back in May.

kgeyser

Not surprised. If I remember correctly, he was bipolar and also battled addiction as well. Those are tough to deal with individually, I can't imagine how that must have been for him trying to handle them together.

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SunofaBeach14

Like it or not a celebrity icon's suicide brings out some pretty strong emotions in those who suffer from depression and have contemplated or attempted suicide, those survivors who have had loved ones take their lives, and those of us who have been on both sides of this equation. Not everyone is going to handle this with kind words and sweet nothings, and I honestly don't think Robin Williams would have wanted it that way. He was bold enough to use his problems in his humor and in that way he made it more human. I don't believe I've ever cried over the death of a celebrity but I am now. All I can say, is let each other have your say but don't assume that because someone feels one way or the other that they don't share your experiences. Many people cry in grief. Some laugh. Some get angry. Some do all three. I think the worst thing we can do is deny another person's legitimate feelings whatever they may be. I know for me, that it's one of the most anger inducing things someone can do to me.

As for me, the thoughts that spun through my head include "coward," " you *kitten*, how can you do that to your family?," "OMG I'm sorry," and "thank God the world was given the gift of your existence." I can't say it enough, but you'll be missed, Mr. Williams.

MyChocolateDiet

Like it or not a celebrity icon's suicide brings out some pretty strong emotions in those who suffer from depression and have contemplated or attempted suicide, those survivors who have had loved ones take their lives, and those of us who have been on both sides of this equation. Not everyone is going to handle this with kind words and sweet nothings, and I honestly don't think Robin Williams would have wanted it that way. He was bold enough to use his problems in his humor and in that way he made it more human. I don't believe I've ever cried over the death of a celebrity but I am now. All I can say, is let each other have your say but don't assume that because someone feels one way or the other that they don't share your experiences. Many people cry in grief. Some laugh. Some get angry. Some do all three. I think the worst thing we can do is deny another person's legitimate feelings whatever they may be. I know for me, that it's one of the most anger inducing things someone can do to me.

As for me, the thoughts that spun through my head include "coward," " you *kitten*, how can you do that to your family?," "OMG I'm sorry," and "thank God the world was given the gift of your existence." I can't say it enough, but you'll be missed, Mr. Williams.

+1

Jenalicious75

Heartbreaking

MyChocolateDiet

I'm sorry guys, I just can't be mad at a man who is experiencing anger because he lost someone due to suicide and this event is causing him to express it.

I can't judge him right now, just like I can't judge anyone who felt like it judged someone they have lost to that either.

Right now I'm pretty much feeling all the emotions, and in a very confusing all at once way, and all the judgeys and the trying to control other's responses isn't really helping?


Or at least that's how it looks from here.

wheird

Like it or not a celebrity icon's suicide brings out some pretty strong emotions in those who suffer from depression and have contemplated or attempted suicide, those survivors who have had loved ones take their lives, and those of us who have been on both sides of this equation. Not everyone is going to handle this with kind words and sweet nothings, and I honestly don't think Robin Williams would have wanted it that way. He was bold enough to use his problems in his humor and in that way he made it more human. I don't believe I've ever cried over the death of a celebrity but I am now. All I can say, is let each other have your say but don't assume that because someone feels one way or the other that they don't share your experiences. Many people cry in grief. Some laugh. Some get angry. Some do all three. I think the worst thing we can do is deny another person's legitimate feelings whatever they may be. I know for me, that it's one of the most anger inducing things someone can do to me.

As for me, the thoughts that spun through my head include "coward," " you *kitten*, how can you do that to your family?," "OMG I'm sorry," and "thank God the world was given the gift of your existence." I can't say it enough, but you'll be missed, Mr. Williams.

You are right, people deal with grief and their own personal tragedies in their own way. I had to take a few steps back from this thread to regain control of myself because some **** is hard to deal with and can act as a trigger for ugly emotions.

jnichel

It appears that he took the cowards way out, anyone who takes his/her life and leaves children behind is a POS I don't care who you are. He obviously had the ability to seek help but apparently didn't.
I feel for his children.

Unless you've ever dealt with this disease (which it is), then you really shouldn't be judging or thinking you're better than anyone. You obviously have no idea at all what it is like to live like this. It's a debilitating, life-sucking disease, like cancer. Boo on you for being this type of person.

This! Wow.

Slow down a bit there, folks. If you've been through this then you should be familiar with the anger. I'd be lying if I didn't say that there is a part of me that feels pretty much exactly like the above. That's the part of me that's been through this with family members.

This. I understand that many of you have dealt with your own demons on the depression side, and you may think that those of us who look at Robin Williams in a different light now are horrible people, but....

You ask us to walk a mile in your shoes before we cast judgement on him, right? I ask you to walk a mile in some of our shoes before you cast judgement on us.

I agree with the OP that suicide is the coward's way out. If you want to judge me, fine, but I ask you, do you know what it feels like to have your father blow his brains out? Do you know what it's like to spend years looking for answers as to why, knowing that you'll never get those answers? Do you know what it's like to constantly wonder if you could have done something different? It is a coward's way out because his pain is over; the pain for the people who cared about him is just beginning.

This was 20+ years ago for me, do you think our pain goes away easy?

Judge me if you must, but today, my view of Robin Williams did a 180.

And it's that judgement that actually can steer people in need of help away. I speak from someone experienced with both sides of that.

What judgement is that? My judging Robin Williams' suicide as the cowards way out? Not to sound callous, but he's dead and won't be seeking any help. I actually have quite the opposite view of those who suffer from addiction and/or depression and continue to fight it. I consider them to be strong and courageous people....and this would be why I stated that, "my view of Robin Williams did a 180".

Graelwyn75

He bought so much joy to the lives of others, how sad that he could not defeat the worm of depression.
My favourite film of his is 'What Dreams May Come'.
RIP Robin Williams.