Robbin Wiliams Dead?!

PikaKnight

It appears that he took the cowards way out, anyone who takes his/her life and leaves children behind is a POS I don't care who you are. He obviously had the ability to seek help but apparently didn't.
I feel for his children.

Unless you've ever dealt with this disease (which it is), then you really shouldn't be judging or thinking you're better than anyone. You obviously have no idea at all what it is like to live like this. It's a debilitating, life-sucking disease, like cancer. Boo on you for being this type of person.

This! Wow.

Slow down a bit there, folks. If you've been through this then you should be familiar with the anger. I'd be lying if I didn't say that there is a part of me that feels pretty much exactly like the above. That's the part of me that's been through this with family members.

This. I understand that many of you have dealt with your own demons on the depression side, and you may think that those of us who look at Robin Williams in a different light now are horrible people, but....

You ask us to walk a mile in your shoes before we cast judgement on him, right? I ask you to walk a mile in some of our shoes before you cast judgement on us.

I agree with the OP that suicide is the coward's way out. If you want to judge me, fine, but I ask you, do you know what it feels like to have your father blow his brains out? Do you know what it's like to spend years looking for answers as to why, knowing that you'll never get those answers? Do you know what it's like to constantly wonder if you could have done something different? It is a coward's way out because his pain is over; the pain for the people who cared about him is just beginning.

This was 20+ years ago for me, do you think our pain goes away easy?

Judge me if you must, but today, my view of Robin Williams did a 180.

And it's that judgement that actually can steer people in need of help away. I speak from someone experienced with both sides of that.

What judgement is that? My judging Robin Williams' suicide as the cowards way out? Not to sound callous, but he's dead and won't be seeking any help. I actually have quite the opposite view of those who suffer from addiction and/or depression and continue to fight it. I consider them to be strong and courageous people....and this would be why I stated that, "my view of Robin Williams did a 180".

And what about those who read things like this that are dealing with suicidal thoughts/issues and depression. That's not what they'll take away from it.

It is a coward's way out because his pain is over; the pain for the people who cared about him is just beginning.

You really think saying things like that is going to inspire people dealing with those types of things to change? To feel more open and hopeful to seek out help. Newsflash. It doesn't. Not. At. All. In fact, it tends to do just the opposite.

It's painful to lose people this way. But it's just as painful for the people who are fighting to stay for them and one day, it's not a matter of courage or cowardice. At that point, it's all that's left. It's not logical. It's not rational. It just is.

woodgal40

I cried on the way home from work when I heard that he died. His humor was so refreshing and his ability to be so many different people made me want to grow up and be a comic. (which I never tried).

His demons won and I hope he rests in peace and his family heals completely.

janine2355

It appears that he took the cowards way out, anyone who takes his/her life and leaves children behind is a POS I don't care who you are. He obviously had the ability to seek help but apparently didn't.
I feel for his children.

Unless you've ever dealt with this disease (which it is), then you really shouldn't be judging or thinking you're better than anyone. You obviously have no idea at all what it is like to live like this. It's a debilitating, life-sucking disease, like cancer. Boo on you for being this type of person.

Hmmm.... this type of person.
How about this;
One of my friends in high school put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.
Someone else I cared about deeply locked herself in her apartment and turned the heat up as high as it would go (in June) and cut her wrists, I found her 3 days later.
Not even 3 weeks ago one of my friends wives put a handgun to her head and pulled the trigger.

So please tell me, what type of person am I?
I can answer that for you, I'm the type of person who has had to deal with this first hand. Would you like me to describe what I've seen and felt in detail, no, I doubt that you would.
So I'm standing by my statement that anyone who commits suicide is a selfish POS because they leave all of their issues behind along with the memories of what you're seen, which I can assure you will never leave you.

I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that, and deal with these losses. The people that are left behind have to deal with all the pain, and emotions that come with the grieving. It's so sad.

MyChocolateDiet

Like it or not a celebrity icon's suicide brings out some pretty strong emotions in those who suffer from depression and have contemplated or attempted suicide, those survivors who have had loved ones take their lives, and those of us who have been on both sides of this equation. Not everyone is going to handle this with kind words and sweet nothings, and I honestly don't think Robin Williams would have wanted it that way. He was bold enough to use his problems in his humor and in that way he made it more human. I don't believe I've ever cried over the death of a celebrity but I am now. All I can say, is let each other have your say but don't assume that because someone feels one way or the other that they don't share your experiences. Many people cry in grief. Some laugh. Some get angry. Some do all three. I think the worst thing we can do is deny another person's legitimate feelings whatever they may be. I know for me, that it's one of the most anger inducing things someone can do to me.

As for me, the thoughts that spun through my head include "coward," " you *kitten*, how can you do that to your family?," "OMG I'm sorry," and "thank God the world was given the gift of your existence." I can't say it enough, but you'll be missed, Mr. Williams.

You are right, people deal with grief and their own personal tragedies in their own way. I had to take a few steps back from this thread to regain control of myself because some **** is hard to deal with and can act as a trigger for ugly emotions.

janine2355

I grew up on Mork & Mindy. I'm having trouble with this.

Me too. It's so sad, he was part of my childhood.

jboccio90

The Genie is finally free.

ihad

He bought so much joy to the lives of others, how sad that he could not defeat the worm of depression.
My favourite film of his is 'What Dreams May Come'.
RIP Robin Williams.

My wife and I were talking about our favorite films of his, and I mentioned that one too.

cheesevixen_staci

He was a truly wonderful actor and comedian. I loved him in Patch Adams and Bicentennial man. The world laughed a lot because of him.

1stday13

Not surprised. If I remember correctly, he was bipolar and also battled addiction as well. Those are tough to deal with individually, I can't imagine how that must have been for him trying to handle them together.

I share those 2 afflications. I understand what he had been going thru all of these years. Yet he managed to channel his illnesses to make us both laugh & cry. I believe his work was his therapy. I will miss him and all of the wonderful memories he may have continued to bring us.:flowerforyou:

salembambi

The Genie is finally free.

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that was not okay holy **** :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

jnichel

We're going to have to agree to disagree as to what my view of suicide is.

k8blujay2

I'm not mad, angry, or disappointed for people feeling the way they feel on either side... but seeing my loved ones suffer from depression even to the point of suicidal thoughts, I can help but to have empathy for them... There is always a risk that they will commit suicide themselves.. I hope to God it never comes to it... But depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain and sometimes there is absolutely nothing you can do to prevent it outside of the sufferer getting psychological help... no matter how much we wonder if there was something we can do... I see this on a very close and frequent basis. It's hard for me to see the google searches about it. While I know that I will never every be prepared if that event ever comes... it is something that I know has a high probability of happening... I don't want it to and I don't know how I will deal with it... But I hope that I will have enough insight to know that I know it wasn't my fault and there wasn't anything I could do about it.

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Meerataila

Talk about some misdirected anger (or maybe I should say energy) around here. If you can't fix something for someone or if you aren't at least in one of the requisite fields and spending 100 hours a week trying, you have no right to be angry when a person succumbs, whether it be to physical illness, mental illness, or to anything else. Being human in even the best of circumstances is hard, and the tools we have to deal with our lives are genetic and from our early upbringing. So we don't have much control over what we get to work with. Help make it easier for people, or take your judgmental attitude somewhere else.

hotjodels

I was hoping it was a hoax but it doesn't look like it :frown:

same here. : [ this is very sad.

edgeninja

Didn't wanna believe it. Still having a tough time. I grew up watching this man's movies. His comedy brand wasn't always my style, but I appreciated that he brought so much joy and laughter to people.

Also, like me, Robin Williams was a hardcore gamer. He even named his daughter after Princess Zelda.

He will be missed.

Tigg_er

Like it or not a celebrity icon's suicide brings out some pretty strong emotions in those who suffer from depression and have contemplated or attempted suicide, those survivors who have had loved ones take their lives, and those of us who have been on both sides of this equation. Not everyone is going to handle this with kind words and sweet nothings, and I honestly don't think Robin Williams would have wanted it that way. He was bold enough to use his problems in his humor and in that way he made it more human. I don't believe I've ever cried over the death of a celebrity but I am now. All I can say, is let each other have your say but don't assume that because someone feels one way or the other that they don't share your experiences. Many people cry in grief. Some laugh. Some get angry. Some do all three. I think the worst thing we can do is deny another person's legitimate feelings whatever they may be. I know for me, that it's one of the most anger inducing things someone can do to me.

As for me, the thoughts that spun through my head include "coward," " you *kitten*, how can you do that to your family?," "OMG I'm sorry," and "thank God the world was given the gift of your existence." I can't say it enough, but you'll be missed, Mr. Williams.

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essjay76

Nanu Nanu. RIP :-(

VikktoriaW

So, so horribly sad. As someone who suffers from crippling depression, it makes me even sadder to know how utterly desperate he must have felt. He gave pleasure to so many people, myself included, and it seems so unfair that he had suffered in that way.

Rest In Peace Robin. You will be missed.

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MaryLouiseHarrington

Tears of a clown.. as the song says.

BrienJD

Really sad, one of my favorite actors. Loved nearly everything he was in, such a range of talent:frown:

MzOnree

A huge tragedy! RIP Robin Williams. Seems surreal and can't believe it. Robin had unmeasurable talent.

suremeansyes

I attempted suicide about 4 years ago. Whenever I hear that someone has committed suicide, it tears me apart. I know how I felt the night that I tried, and I never want anyone to feel that way. I have turned my ship around, I figured out what I needed to figure out.

I understand that I would have deeply hurt my family had I succeeded, and I feel bad that I even considered it...but that being said, I honestly was not in the right head space at that exact moment to be logical and empathetic. Is it selfish? Yes, I believe it is. But to call someone a POS is over the line. One moment does not negate your entire life, no matter how large the moment.

I know I am certainly not a POS, and neither was he. He was in pain.

Alex

I have cleaned this topic up a bit. I want to acknowledge what an emotional and triggering subject this is for a great number of people. Robin Williams was a beloved actor and suicide is an extremely heartbreaking loss with a great many complex issues involved.

It would be best if this topic focused on the life of Robin Williams, and if the cause of his death is discussed, let's please do it with respect and compassion. This isn't to say there is not place for anger in this discussion, but please take a step back first, be respectful and let's not name call and attack one another.

rml_16

RIP to one of the best.

sweetcurlz67

Truly a great talent... He will be missed!

angelexperiment

It was shocking to discover and I think something is not right about it. I don't believe it was suicide. If you check out many celeb so called suicides or ods are not truly accidents or suicides. I don't believe he did it I think thrre was something more going on we don't know. In any case he is dead and I am sorry for him and his family and every life he ever touched. I am sorry for his battle of mental illness and addiction at least he is at peace now. I wish you great happiness on your spirit journey and release from this physical world msy you be fulfilled now robin and now know all the happiness you brought to the world.

rowlandsw

Well he's keeping Chris Reeve and Jonathan Winters company now, i can only imagine what a party that would be.

Naughty_ZOOT

Well he's keeping Chris Reeve and Jonathan Winters company now, i can only imagine what a party that would be.

Indeed, indeed.