Keto Diet is king for droping lbs
itprofessional1940
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I wanted to share with you the view points of most athletes in natural bodybuilding, not all, but alot. Since I have started to get into the mindframe of natural bodybuilding competition, there is a common interest amonst the community to have low carb, appx 5%, per daily values.
The typical diet for natural bodybuilders
Note: It takes an average of two weeks to get into ketosis, so there is a transition phase to this diet. Also, during the transition phase, you will experience some decent weight loss. Here is the diet. I know there is alot of negativity about this diet, but after talking with a weightloss doctor, yes I did do that, and he gave me some pointer on this diet and why its so effective. He also told me that most obese people love sweets, taking this fuel source from there diet will shock the body into fatloss mode, as long as calorie intake does not go so that the body goes into starvation mode.
The doctor stated that this diet is meant for people that want to lose wieght at a pretty consistant basis. He told me that eating like this all the time is not the healthiest, but for 3-4 months, doing this diet is not going to affect your health in a negative manner. The positive spin is even the natural and unnatural bodybuilding community believe in this concept, they believe it so much, that they do this diet during their cutting cycles exclusively.
I realize I will get a lot of negative feedback, and I can provide plenty of proof that it works and can get your wieght under control very quickly, and still keep you healthy.
Here is a typical keto diet break down. Remember sunday is a refead day, mean you can get some carbs in on SAT or SUN, you can pick the one day to refead. Remember you would only do this max 3 months, no longer.
Protien: 25-30 percent
Carbs: 5 percent split up throughout 3-5 meals, depending how many meals you actually have time for
Fat: 65-70 percent
These percentages change after you two week transition phase. Now, reason why the fat content is so high, yes high fat is good, is because during your transition, carbs will be absent. The fat fills you up. Now, you still have to stay within your fat breakdown of 65-70 percent of your daily intake
Here is an article you can read Albert Wolf, www.evolutionary.org,
In the last 30 years, the popularity of the high protein/high carb/low-fat diet has grown to epidemic proportions among bodybuilders and strength athletes. The average Joe bodybuilder is steaming fish, separating egg yolks from egg whites and cutting out the visible fat from juicy stakes, but why? The anecdotal evidence behind high protein/high carb diets shows how brutal they are; guys are losing muscle mass, getting depressed and losing all motivation. Constant insulin spikes are one of the main reasons, followed by the monotony of high protein/high-moderate carb diets. Of course, it’s a lie to say you can’t make progress with high-protein/high-carb diets, but you’ll lose a ton of muscle in the process and be stuck with a dead-end diet that you can’t maintain. After all, how much egg whites and bland oatmeal can you eat before you want to shoot yourself? Don’t torture yourself with useless diets, when there is a great alternative, The Evolutionary Diet.
“Broscience” aka BS
While this is a concept rarely discussed, it has been one of the biggest issues in diet mismanagement today. The history of ‘broscience’, better known as BS, started at the gym levels (before the internet) where good bros would share their ‘broscience’ with newbies at the gym so they can sell them some steroids. The evolution of this has been the myriad of BS we see on the internet, mainly from bodybuilding/steroid forums and blogs. The unlimited amount of ‘gurus’ who type out BS is unimaginable and every one of them has some whacked out theory based on magic. The truth is these ‘bros’ are no better for your diet, training or cycling than a pair of dice; some are right, but the majority are just dead wrong. You roll the dice with your gains, life and health every time you listen to them.
Let’s use an example everyone can relate to (or at least the juice heads reading this). For a period of time, the steroid forums were filled with new age information about why using aromatase inhibitors and SERMs is bad: “oh man, it kills your gains” “bro, you don’t need arimidex” “don’t run that AI, Ais are a waste,” you get the picture. The claim was that “high-estrogen” levels increase your gains, well guess what happened next? As a result, in the last few years, there has been an explosion of forum posts, blog posts, private messages and emails about guys getting gynecomastia (***** tits) and not knowing what to do about it. Why is that? Simple, high estrogen levels come with very bad side effects, ranging from gynecomastia (***** tits), to high blood pressure, to psychological damage. The guys who didn’t take an AI and walked around with high estrogen levels are regretting it every day of their life. Yes, it’s not a topic that’s discussed enough, but high-estrogen levels rewire the male brain. Why do you think transvestites inject themselves with estrogen? Think about that one.
Broscience is what created the high-carbohydrate diet epidemic, and it’s the culprit behind countless of hours of dietary torture. The insane amounts of suffering by bodybuilders and regular gym guys is unimaginable. Guys who are torturing themselves with the same egg whites, whey protein shakes, white rice and chicken breasts, over and over and over. Based on what evidence? Based on some BS they heard from a ‘buff’ guy at the gym, or a keyboard warrior on internet forums.
Who hates The Evolutionary Diet?
Mainstream society of course, who else? Go into any supermarket and what you’ll see are shelves filled with carbohydrates and sugars just packed differently. These carbohydrates are a godsend for the food industry, they produce high profits with little overhead; after all, all you need is some Genetically modified corn (GMO) along with a ton of chemicals, and there you have yourself some toxic fruit sugars. Once you eat this food, your insulin will spike, your growth hormone levels will drop and you’ll pack on the fat, but most importantly you’ll be hungry very quickly, which equals to more profits for the food industry. Compare this to steak, where all you need is a cow and a butchers, and now you see why there is significantly less profits in selling meat.
High-carbohydrate vs. Evolutionary Diet
On average, on the high-carbohydrate diet you’ll lose about 40-50% muscle mass and 40-50% fat, making it a very poor diet for bodybuilders. At the same time, the average guy on the Evolutionary Diet will lose 90% fat and no more than 10% muscle – that’s conservative; in general, guys are losing 100% fat and gaining muscle mass at the same time. Most bodybuilders will be able to lose around 2lbs. of bodyfat per week, while gaining about 0.25lbs. of muscle, and that’s assuming you’re not using any steroids or testosterone boosters like HCGenerate. If you throw in HCGenerate into the mix, you’ll shed more fat and gain more lean mass naturally.
Hormones and the Evolutionary Diet
The Evolutionary Diet creates a homeostatic environment where you naturally maximize your levels of testosterone, growth hormone and insulin, which will help you gain lean muscle mass while losing bodyfat. The diet shifts your metabolism and conditions it to create an endogenous anabolic environment. This processes is insanely complicated, but in laymen terms – most hormones are reactive to each other. If one is going up, the other one is going down, and vise-versa. For example, when insulin levels increase (as it happens all the time on a high-protein/high-carbohydrates diet), growth hormone levels decrease. If you are able to increase the serum levels of both hormones, you’ll be able to create a highly anabolic environment suitable for high-quality muscle gains and fast-paced fat loss. That’s where the Evolutionary Diet comes in.
In addition, The Evolutionary Diet decreases cortisol levels. Cortisol is a hormone secreted by the adrenal glad to break down muscle tissue and use it as fuel (energy) – this concept is known as catabolism or catabolic state. With this diet, you’ll be packing on more muscle mass while losing less and less from catabolism.
The Metabolic Shift
The holy grail of all energy produced in your body is Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP). In order to blink your eyes, breathe, pump iron or even go to the bathroom, you need Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP). The ‘broscience’ based notion that ATP can only come carbohydrates (glycogen and glucose) is entirely false. Both protein and fat can be used for energy and can easily replenish ATP levels in the body.
The average high-carbohydrate/high-protein diet works by using glucose for energy. The glucose enters your bloodstreams, the pancreas secretes insulin and the glucose is used as an immediate energy source – the rest is stored as glycogen in the muscle and liver tissues. However, some of the glucose is made into bodyfat (triglycerides), aka you are getting fatter as you eat more and more carbs. A diet high in carbohydrates constantly bombards your body with spiking insulin levels; insulin is known to increase lipogenic enzymes (fat producing) and decrease lipolytic enzymes (fat burning). This leads to more bodyfat being stored and more muscle mass being burned for energy.
On The Evolutionary Diet fat is the primary source of fuel for the body. This limits the body, since it has no glucose to use, it now has to make a metabolic shift to use free fatty acids from stored bodyfat and dietary sources for energy. As an alternative to using glucose and glycogen, the body now starts using triglycerides (your bodyfat) and free fatty acids. In simple terms, The Evolutionary Diet creates a highly anabolic environment, where lipogenic enzymes (fat producing) are decreased while lipolytic enzymes (fat burning) are increased. Once the metabolic shift happens, triglycerides are broken down into free fatty acids, which are in turn broken down into Ketones to be used as an alternative energy source.
Protein and Catabolism
The Evolutionary Diet forces the body to make a metabolic shift, where fat is the new source of energy. The diet protects protein levels and is anti-catabolic, meaning it makes you lose bodyfat while keeping your body from using muscle protein for energy. After the metabolic shift, your body will utilize fat for energy whenever possible, it literally will start seeking out fat to burn for fuel – think about the fat around your abs melting away, while you sit on the computer, on this diet!
When you compare this to a regular high-carbohydrate diet, you’ll find a huge difference. As your body is used to using glucose for energy, it’s not used to using anything else, so when you run out of glucose or the glucose provided is not high GI enough, your body breaks down protein (becomes catabolic) for energy. It means that high-carbohydrate diets literally force your body to use your MUSCLES for energy! The body is so efficient, it’s amazing – it utilizes protein with 58% efficiency. Roughly, your body can extract 58 grams of glucose from 100 grams of protein.
How does it work?
The diet consists of 2 phases, the metabolic shift phase, which lasts the first 2-3 weeks and the maintenance phase – which is the rest of the time you’re doing The Evolutionary Diet.
The Evolutionary Diet Results
Metabolic Shift
The first 2 weeks of the diet, you’re aren’t going to feel well, the main reason is your body is used to chemicals, toxins and high levels of glucose. Once the body reaches a level of homeostasis, it will shift your metabolic rate to burn fat for energy instead of glucose.
Ratios for the Shift
Monday-Saturday
Fat – 65-70%
Protein – 25%-30%
Carbs – 5% max
Sunday Reload
Fat – 30-40%
Protein – 10-15 %
Carbs – 45-60%
Basically, in the “Shift Phase” from Monday through Saturday, you will be eating a very high fat diet, medium protein and virtually no carbs. On the weekend, Sunday, you’ll be eating a lot of carbohydrates to shock your body and force it to become anabolic. In essence, from Monday-Saturday you’ll be in ketosis, shedding bodyfat, while Sunday you’ll be in an anabolic phase – packing on muscle.
After the first 2 weeks, you have likely made a metabolic shift, and your body is ready to become a fat burning machine. You can now switch up a few things. First, we’ll need to increase your reload phase and decrease fats during your cutting phase. You will now run your main diet Monday-Friday and your reload Saturday-Sunday.
Ratios for Maintenance
Monday-Friday
Fat – 55-60%
Protein – 30%-35%
Carbs – 5%-8%
Saturday-Sunday Reload
Fat – 30-40%
Protein – 10-15 %
Carbs – 45-60%
What can you eat?
The Diet
The menu is going to be entirely up to you, but here are some examples of the foods you can eat.
Steak, chicken (not breast!), hamburgers, pork, lamb – virtually all fatty red meat is fair game; whole eggs, cheese (carb free NOT cheese spread), turkey, fish (the fatter the better), lobster, tuna and every other fish out there. The fatter the food the better. Don’t forget different kinds of nuts, like walnuts and seeds – just make sure you count the carbs, as both cheese and nuts contain a small amount of carbs. You need the fat to make that metabolic shift, so don’t worry about it too much. Just make sure to watch your carbs, many foods contain hidden carbohydrates.
The Reload
During the reload phase, concentrate on both high and low GI foods. Think cereal with skim milk, pasta, pancakes, breads, organic pizza, rice and pretty much everything you were craving during the week. Of course, make sure to keep to the macros provided for the diet.
Caloric Intake
Your caloric intake will depend on what you want to do with the diet:
If you’re looking to get lean (cut), you’ll need to take your BMR = weight (lbs.) x 12 and subtract about 10%. For example, if you’re 200 lbs., your cutting BMR (CBMR) is 2400 calories (200×12) – 240 calories (10%) => your CBMR = 2160 calories. You need to eat around 2160 calories during the week to shed bodyfat.
If you want to gain mass (bulk up), you’ll need to take your BMR x 18-20. For example, if you’re 200lbs., your bulking BMR (BBMR) is weight (lbs.) x 20 = 4000 calories.
Thus, for a 200lbs. Male, the CBMR = 2160 calories and BBMR = 4000 calories.
The typical diet for natural bodybuilders
Note: It takes an average of two weeks to get into ketosis, so there is a transition phase to this diet. Also, during the transition phase, you will experience some decent weight loss. Here is the diet. I know there is alot of negativity about this diet, but after talking with a weightloss doctor, yes I did do that, and he gave me some pointer on this diet and why its so effective. He also told me that most obese people love sweets, taking this fuel source from there diet will shock the body into fatloss mode, as long as calorie intake does not go so that the body goes into starvation mode.
The doctor stated that this diet is meant for people that want to lose wieght at a pretty consistant basis. He told me that eating like this all the time is not the healthiest, but for 3-4 months, doing this diet is not going to affect your health in a negative manner. The positive spin is even the natural and unnatural bodybuilding community believe in this concept, they believe it so much, that they do this diet during their cutting cycles exclusively.
I realize I will get a lot of negative feedback, and I can provide plenty of proof that it works and can get your wieght under control very quickly, and still keep you healthy.
Here is a typical keto diet break down. Remember sunday is a refead day, mean you can get some carbs in on SAT or SUN, you can pick the one day to refead. Remember you would only do this max 3 months, no longer.
Protien: 25-30 percent
Carbs: 5 percent split up throughout 3-5 meals, depending how many meals you actually have time for
Fat: 65-70 percent
These percentages change after you two week transition phase. Now, reason why the fat content is so high, yes high fat is good, is because during your transition, carbs will be absent. The fat fills you up. Now, you still have to stay within your fat breakdown of 65-70 percent of your daily intake
Here is an article you can read Albert Wolf, www.evolutionary.org,
In the last 30 years, the popularity of the high protein/high carb/low-fat diet has grown to epidemic proportions among bodybuilders and strength athletes. The average Joe bodybuilder is steaming fish, separating egg yolks from egg whites and cutting out the visible fat from juicy stakes, but why? The anecdotal evidence behind high protein/high carb diets shows how brutal they are; guys are losing muscle mass, getting depressed and losing all motivation. Constant insulin spikes are one of the main reasons, followed by the monotony of high protein/high-moderate carb diets. Of course, it’s a lie to say you can’t make progress with high-protein/high-carb diets, but you’ll lose a ton of muscle in the process and be stuck with a dead-end diet that you can’t maintain. After all, how much egg whites and bland oatmeal can you eat before you want to shoot yourself? Don’t torture yourself with useless diets, when there is a great alternative, The Evolutionary Diet.
“Broscience” aka BS
While this is a concept rarely discussed, it has been one of the biggest issues in diet mismanagement today. The history of ‘broscience’, better known as BS, started at the gym levels (before the internet) where good bros would share their ‘broscience’ with newbies at the gym so they can sell them some steroids. The evolution of this has been the myriad of BS we see on the internet, mainly from bodybuilding/steroid forums and blogs. The unlimited amount of ‘gurus’ who type out BS is unimaginable and every one of them has some whacked out theory based on magic. The truth is these ‘bros’ are no better for your diet, training or cycling than a pair of dice; some are right, but the majority are just dead wrong. You roll the dice with your gains, life and health every time you listen to them.
Let’s use an example everyone can relate to (or at least the juice heads reading this). For a period of time, the steroid forums were filled with new age information about why using aromatase inhibitors and SERMs is bad: “oh man, it kills your gains” “bro, you don’t need arimidex” “don’t run that AI, Ais are a waste,” you get the picture. The claim was that “high-estrogen” levels increase your gains, well guess what happened next? As a result, in the last few years, there has been an explosion of forum posts, blog posts, private messages and emails about guys getting gynecomastia (***** tits) and not knowing what to do about it. Why is that? Simple, high estrogen levels come with very bad side effects, ranging from gynecomastia (***** tits), to high blood pressure, to psychological damage. The guys who didn’t take an AI and walked around with high estrogen levels are regretting it every day of their life. Yes, it’s not a topic that’s discussed enough, but high-estrogen levels rewire the male brain. Why do you think transvestites inject themselves with estrogen? Think about that one.
Broscience is what created the high-carbohydrate diet epidemic, and it’s the culprit behind countless of hours of dietary torture. The insane amounts of suffering by bodybuilders and regular gym guys is unimaginable. Guys who are torturing themselves with the same egg whites, whey protein shakes, white rice and chicken breasts, over and over and over. Based on what evidence? Based on some BS they heard from a ‘buff’ guy at the gym, or a keyboard warrior on internet forums.
Who hates The Evolutionary Diet?
Mainstream society of course, who else? Go into any supermarket and what you’ll see are shelves filled with carbohydrates and sugars just packed differently. These carbohydrates are a godsend for the food industry, they produce high profits with little overhead; after all, all you need is some Genetically modified corn (GMO) along with a ton of chemicals, and there you have yourself some toxic fruit sugars. Once you eat this food, your insulin will spike, your growth hormone levels will drop and you’ll pack on the fat, but most importantly you’ll be hungry very quickly, which equals to more profits for the food industry. Compare this to steak, where all you need is a cow and a butchers, and now you see why there is significantly less profits in selling meat.
High-carbohydrate vs. Evolutionary Diet
On average, on the high-carbohydrate diet you’ll lose about 40-50% muscle mass and 40-50% fat, making it a very poor diet for bodybuilders. At the same time, the average guy on the Evolutionary Diet will lose 90% fat and no more than 10% muscle – that’s conservative; in general, guys are losing 100% fat and gaining muscle mass at the same time. Most bodybuilders will be able to lose around 2lbs. of bodyfat per week, while gaining about 0.25lbs. of muscle, and that’s assuming you’re not using any steroids or testosterone boosters like HCGenerate. If you throw in HCGenerate into the mix, you’ll shed more fat and gain more lean mass naturally.
Hormones and the Evolutionary Diet
The Evolutionary Diet creates a homeostatic environment where you naturally maximize your levels of testosterone, growth hormone and insulin, which will help you gain lean muscle mass while losing bodyfat. The diet shifts your metabolism and conditions it to create an endogenous anabolic environment. This processes is insanely complicated, but in laymen terms – most hormones are reactive to each other. If one is going up, the other one is going down, and vise-versa. For example, when insulin levels increase (as it happens all the time on a high-protein/high-carbohydrates diet), growth hormone levels decrease. If you are able to increase the serum levels of both hormones, you’ll be able to create a highly anabolic environment suitable for high-quality muscle gains and fast-paced fat loss. That’s where the Evolutionary Diet comes in.
In addition, The Evolutionary Diet decreases cortisol levels. Cortisol is a hormone secreted by the adrenal glad to break down muscle tissue and use it as fuel (energy) – this concept is known as catabolism or catabolic state. With this diet, you’ll be packing on more muscle mass while losing less and less from catabolism.
The Metabolic Shift
The holy grail of all energy produced in your body is Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP). In order to blink your eyes, breathe, pump iron or even go to the bathroom, you need Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP). The ‘broscience’ based notion that ATP can only come carbohydrates (glycogen and glucose) is entirely false. Both protein and fat can be used for energy and can easily replenish ATP levels in the body.
The average high-carbohydrate/high-protein diet works by using glucose for energy. The glucose enters your bloodstreams, the pancreas secretes insulin and the glucose is used as an immediate energy source – the rest is stored as glycogen in the muscle and liver tissues. However, some of the glucose is made into bodyfat (triglycerides), aka you are getting fatter as you eat more and more carbs. A diet high in carbohydrates constantly bombards your body with spiking insulin levels; insulin is known to increase lipogenic enzymes (fat producing) and decrease lipolytic enzymes (fat burning). This leads to more bodyfat being stored and more muscle mass being burned for energy.
On The Evolutionary Diet fat is the primary source of fuel for the body. This limits the body, since it has no glucose to use, it now has to make a metabolic shift to use free fatty acids from stored bodyfat and dietary sources for energy. As an alternative to using glucose and glycogen, the body now starts using triglycerides (your bodyfat) and free fatty acids. In simple terms, The Evolutionary Diet creates a highly anabolic environment, where lipogenic enzymes (fat producing) are decreased while lipolytic enzymes (fat burning) are increased. Once the metabolic shift happens, triglycerides are broken down into free fatty acids, which are in turn broken down into Ketones to be used as an alternative energy source.
Protein and Catabolism
The Evolutionary Diet forces the body to make a metabolic shift, where fat is the new source of energy. The diet protects protein levels and is anti-catabolic, meaning it makes you lose bodyfat while keeping your body from using muscle protein for energy. After the metabolic shift, your body will utilize fat for energy whenever possible, it literally will start seeking out fat to burn for fuel – think about the fat around your abs melting away, while you sit on the computer, on this diet!
When you compare this to a regular high-carbohydrate diet, you’ll find a huge difference. As your body is used to using glucose for energy, it’s not used to using anything else, so when you run out of glucose or the glucose provided is not high GI enough, your body breaks down protein (becomes catabolic) for energy. It means that high-carbohydrate diets literally force your body to use your MUSCLES for energy! The body is so efficient, it’s amazing – it utilizes protein with 58% efficiency. Roughly, your body can extract 58 grams of glucose from 100 grams of protein.
How does it work?
The diet consists of 2 phases, the metabolic shift phase, which lasts the first 2-3 weeks and the maintenance phase – which is the rest of the time you’re doing The Evolutionary Diet.
The Evolutionary Diet Results
Metabolic Shift
The first 2 weeks of the diet, you’re aren’t going to feel well, the main reason is your body is used to chemicals, toxins and high levels of glucose. Once the body reaches a level of homeostasis, it will shift your metabolic rate to burn fat for energy instead of glucose.
Ratios for the Shift
Monday-Saturday
Fat – 65-70%
Protein – 25%-30%
Carbs – 5% max
Sunday Reload
Fat – 30-40%
Protein – 10-15 %
Carbs – 45-60%
Basically, in the “Shift Phase” from Monday through Saturday, you will be eating a very high fat diet, medium protein and virtually no carbs. On the weekend, Sunday, you’ll be eating a lot of carbohydrates to shock your body and force it to become anabolic. In essence, from Monday-Saturday you’ll be in ketosis, shedding bodyfat, while Sunday you’ll be in an anabolic phase – packing on muscle.
After the first 2 weeks, you have likely made a metabolic shift, and your body is ready to become a fat burning machine. You can now switch up a few things. First, we’ll need to increase your reload phase and decrease fats during your cutting phase. You will now run your main diet Monday-Friday and your reload Saturday-Sunday.
Ratios for Maintenance
Monday-Friday
Fat – 55-60%
Protein – 30%-35%
Carbs – 5%-8%
Saturday-Sunday Reload
Fat – 30-40%
Protein – 10-15 %
Carbs – 45-60%
What can you eat?
The Diet
The menu is going to be entirely up to you, but here are some examples of the foods you can eat.
Steak, chicken (not breast!), hamburgers, pork, lamb – virtually all fatty red meat is fair game; whole eggs, cheese (carb free NOT cheese spread), turkey, fish (the fatter the better), lobster, tuna and every other fish out there. The fatter the food the better. Don’t forget different kinds of nuts, like walnuts and seeds – just make sure you count the carbs, as both cheese and nuts contain a small amount of carbs. You need the fat to make that metabolic shift, so don’t worry about it too much. Just make sure to watch your carbs, many foods contain hidden carbohydrates.
The Reload
During the reload phase, concentrate on both high and low GI foods. Think cereal with skim milk, pasta, pancakes, breads, organic pizza, rice and pretty much everything you were craving during the week. Of course, make sure to keep to the macros provided for the diet.
Caloric Intake
Your caloric intake will depend on what you want to do with the diet:
If you’re looking to get lean (cut), you’ll need to take your BMR = weight (lbs.) x 12 and subtract about 10%. For example, if you’re 200 lbs., your cutting BMR (CBMR) is 2400 calories (200×12) – 240 calories (10%) => your CBMR = 2160 calories. You need to eat around 2160 calories during the week to shed bodyfat.
If you want to gain mass (bulk up), you’ll need to take your BMR x 18-20. For example, if you’re 200lbs., your bulking BMR (BBMR) is weight (lbs.) x 20 = 4000 calories.
Thus, for a 200lbs. Male, the CBMR = 2160 calories and BBMR = 4000 calories.
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i have no doubts that keto is effective, but its too restrictive for your average joe. just counting cals keeps it nice and simple
might look into doing keto fora bit once i get down to 15% or so bf though, we'll see0 -
Who's Albert Wolfgang?
ETA: Nevermind, just found his other articles, including the one promoting steroid use. Officially not interested in anything he has to say about anything. Sorry.0 -
interesting... I am looking into this.0
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The post was way to long. Did not read. Nothing is "the king for dropping lbs" besides a caloric deficit. If you are in ketosis and eat more calories in a day then you burn, you'll not lose weight. You can substitute any word or diet for ketosis in that last sentence and it's still true. Any time you lose weight over the long term it's because of a calorie deficit. Keto works wonders for some because it makes it easier for them to adhere to a calorie deficit. The issue is, most people struggle when transitioning out of the keto diet and gain back much if not all of what they lost. I prefer a much less restrictive form of dieting that has a much easier transition to maintenance once weight is lost.0
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Talks about broscience, gives temporary diet for losing weight that is used for cutting/bulking on a site where people can't keep 2 lbs off.
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The post was way to long. Did not read. Nothing is "the king for dropping lbs" besides a caloric deficit. If you are in ketosis and eat more calories in a day then you burn, you'll not lose weight. You can substitute any word or diet for ketosis in that last sentence and it's still true. Any time you lose weight over the long term it's because of a calorie deficit. Keto works wonders for some because it makes it easier for them to adhere to a calorie deficit. The issue is, most people struggle when transitioning out of the keto diet and gain back much if not all of what they lost. I prefer a much less restrictive form of dieting that has a much easier transition to maintenance once weight is lost.
this but low carb has its place in contest prep because it is highly effective at eliminating water weight0 -
The post was way to long. Did not read. Nothing is "the king for dropping lbs" besides a caloric deficit. If you are in ketosis and eat more calories in a day then you burn, you'll not lose weight. You can substitute any word or diet for ketosis in that last sentence and it's still true. Any time you lose weight over the long term it's because of a calorie deficit. Keto works wonders for some because it makes it easier for them to adhere to a calorie deficit. The issue is, most people struggle when transitioning out of the keto diet and gain back much if not all of what they lost. I prefer a much less restrictive form of dieting that has a much easier transition to maintenance once weight is lost.
this but low carb has its place in contest prep because it is highly effective at eliminating water weight
Yep, keto is great for those who are professional figure competitors and those with insulin resistance and some diabetics. However, for "average" Joe and Jane, many of whom have kids and families, a "regular", calorie controlled diet is King.
I don't feel like making different food for the rest of my family, and I sure as heck am not putting kids into ketosis (especially the underweight one) just because *I'm* doing it. Oh, and LOTS of us here do fine with carbs, too (Look at all the tickers-YAY!).0 -
Who's Albert Wolfgang?
ETA: Nevermind, just found his other articles, including the one promoting steroid use. Officially not interested in anything he has to say about anything. Sorry.
Considering the source is always key.0 -
That was just too much to read. Goodness.0
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low carb is not the same as ketosis. Most people in prep do get low carb but it's more because their overall calories get so low. Most of them are not in ketosis. Also, the population of people who actually get contest lean is extremely low. Most people around here just want to lose weight. If contest prep is your goal, you need a coach. Your coach can handle how many carbs you eat.The post was way to long. Did not read. Nothing is "the king for dropping lbs" besides a caloric deficit. If you are in ketosis and eat more calories in a day then you burn, you'll not lose weight. You can substitute any word or diet for ketosis in that last sentence and it's still true. Any time you lose weight over the long term it's because of a calorie deficit. Keto works wonders for some because it makes it easier for them to adhere to a calorie deficit. The issue is, most people struggle when transitioning out of the keto diet and gain back much if not all of what they lost. I prefer a much less restrictive form of dieting that has a much easier transition to maintenance once weight is lost.
this but low carb has its place in contest prep because it is highly effective at eliminating water weight0 -
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low carb is not the same as ketosis. Most people in prep do get low carb but it's more because their overall calories get so low. Most of them are not in ketosis. Also, the population of people who actually get contest lean is extremely low. Most people around here just want to lose weight. If contest prep is your goal, you need a coach. Your coach can handle how many carbs you eat.The post was way to long. Did not read. Nothing is "the king for dropping lbs" besides a caloric deficit. If you are in ketosis and eat more calories in a day then you burn, you'll not lose weight. You can substitute any word or diet for ketosis in that last sentence and it's still true. Any time you lose weight over the long term it's because of a calorie deficit. Keto works wonders for some because it makes it easier for them to adhere to a calorie deficit. The issue is, most people struggle when transitioning out of the keto diet and gain back much if not all of what they lost. I prefer a much less restrictive form of dieting that has a much easier transition to maintenance once weight is lost.
this but low carb has its place in contest prep because it is highly effective at eliminating water weight
It still means no bread! It's sinful...it goes against all weight loss beliefs and prophecies!0 -
FYI...Regarding your profile information:Robin Williams committed suicide, he did not die from poor health0
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Cuz I just want to be in.0 -
Keto is the only diet - the ONLY diet I have ever been able to stick to and the ONLY diet that has ever worked for me. I love it! I do not follow this plan as listed above, I do Atkins / Optimal Ketogenic Plan and it has been great! I never feel hungry because the fats and proteins keep me satisfied and that keeps the calories down naturally. I am a carb addict and not once have I cheated by eating sugar, popcorn, etc... because all of my cravings for that type of stuff have disappeared. I get healthy fats from olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, nuts and yes, I even get my fats from BACON! I keep my net carbs at or below 20 grams, fats about 100 - 120 grams and protein about 140 grams daily. I do NOT count calories I simply make sure they are not excessive by making wise food choices. I eat blueberries, cantaloupe, spinach, zucchini, cabbage, cauliflower, etc... so I am still getting in my fruits and veggies enough to stay satisfied and take a few supplements to fill in any gaps. My labs (yes, I get my blood drawn extensively every 6 months) are fantastic, even cholesterol, triglycerides, etc... Typical meals would be eggs and bacon for breakfast, chef salad for lunch and protein, veggie and salad for dinner. I have been through what feels like every diet in the book, most all of them based on counting calories and eating plenty of healthy carbs and barely any fat while being miserable and failing at each of them. And as for gaining weight after you stop following the diet, it isn't a diet it is a way of eating that I plan to follow for the rest of my life. Why would I stop something that is so easy to follow and workd so well. Once I reach my weight loss goals I simply start to add more healthy carbs back into my daily meals. Keto works for me. Maybe it isn't for everyone but don't discount those of us who are being successful and healthy because of it.2
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Talks about broscience, gives temporary diet for losing weight that is used for cutting/bulking on a site where people can't keep 2 lbs off.
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Speaking of two extra pounds. How is your wife's cheeks doing?
They looked phenomenal last night, maybe a little red after all was said and done.0 -
Talks about broscience, gives temporary diet for losing weight that is used for cutting/bulking on a site where people can't keep 2 lbs off.
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Speaking of two extra pounds. How is your wife's cheeks doing?
Next time, though, you can ask her yourself - her Profile is MegSommer on here. She, too, is confident enough to have her own picture as her profile, so you can be mirin all day if that's your thing.0 -
Keto is the only diet - the ONLY diet I have ever been able to stick to and the ONLY diet that has ever worked for me. I love it! I do not follow this plan as listed above, I do Atkins / Optimal Ketogenic Plan and it has been great! I never feel hungry because the fats and proteins keep me satisfied and that keeps the calories down naturally. I am a carb addict and not once have I cheated by eating sugar, popcorn, etc... because all of my cravings for that type of stuff have disappeared. I get healthy fats from olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, nuts and yes, I even get my fats from BACON! I keep my net carbs at or below 20 grams, fats about 100 - 120 grams and protein about 140 grams daily. I do NOT count calories I simply make sure they are not excessive by making wise food choices. I eat blueberries, cantaloupe, spinach, zucchini, cabbage, cauliflower, etc... so I am still getting in my fruits and veggies enough to stay satisfied and take a few supplements to fill in any gaps. My labs (yes, I get my blood drawn extensively every 6 months) are fantastic, even cholesterol, triglycerides, etc... Typical meals would be eggs and bacon for breakfast, chef salad for lunch and protein, veggie and salad for dinner. I have been through what feels like every diet in the book, most all of them based on counting calories and eating plenty of healthy carbs and barely any fat while being miserable and failing at each of them. And as for gaining weight after you stop following the diet, it isn't a diet it is a way of eating that I plan to follow for the rest of my life. Why would I stop something that is so easy to follow and workd so well. Once I reach my weight loss goals I simply start to add more healthy carbs back into my daily meals. Keto works for me. Maybe it isn't for everyone but don't discount those of us who are being successful and healthy because of it.
Don't take it personally. They do this to ANYONE who DARES to eat differently than they do. This site can be very anti-lowcarb. Sad, but true. The best way to deal with it is to roll your eyes and move on. That's what I do. I've been keto-ing for over a year. I lost 30ish lbs that would not budge on a normal eating plan where my carbs were way too high and my fat was way too low.1 -
Talks about broscience, gives temporary diet for losing weight that is used for cutting/bulking on a site where people can't keep 2 lbs off.
8/10
Speaking of two extra pounds. How is your wife's cheeks doing?
Next time, though, you can ask her yourself - her Profile is MegSommer on here. She, too, is confident enough to have her own picture as her profile, so you can be mirin all day if that's your thing.
Does she go around trolling ED sufferers?0 -
Way too freakin' long!0
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Post was too long for me to read, but I have heard of the keto diet. I know a husband and wife who lost over 100 (combined) pounds. They've sustained it for over a year. What I don't like about it is the lack of fruit allowed.0
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No one is being anti low carb. We are simply pointing out that there is nothing magical about ketosis. A keto diet, like any diets requires, and works because it creates a caloric deficit. The issue with keto is that, for many people, once you remove the restrictions of the diet, the caloric deficit disappears and they start eating in a surplus again. This causes them to gain back much of the weight they lost. This is not unique to keto. It is something seen with almost every highly restrictive diet.Keto is the only diet - the ONLY diet I have ever been able to stick to and the ONLY diet that has ever worked for me. I love it! I do not follow this plan as listed above, I do Atkins / Optimal Ketogenic Plan and it has been great! I never feel hungry because the fats and proteins keep me satisfied and that keeps the calories down naturally. I am a carb addict and not once have I cheated by eating sugar, popcorn, etc... because all of my cravings for that type of stuff have disappeared. I get healthy fats from olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, nuts and yes, I even get my fats from BACON! I keep my net carbs at or below 20 grams, fats about 100 - 120 grams and protein about 140 grams daily. I do NOT count calories I simply make sure they are not excessive by making wise food choices. I eat blueberries, cantaloupe, spinach, zucchini, cabbage, cauliflower, etc... so I am still getting in my fruits and veggies enough to stay satisfied and take a few supplements to fill in any gaps. My labs (yes, I get my blood drawn extensively every 6 months) are fantastic, even cholesterol, triglycerides, etc... Typical meals would be eggs and bacon for breakfast, chef salad for lunch and protein, veggie and salad for dinner. I have been through what feels like every diet in the book, most all of them based on counting calories and eating plenty of healthy carbs and barely any fat while being miserable and failing at each of them. And as for gaining weight after you stop following the diet, it isn't a diet it is a way of eating that I plan to follow for the rest of my life. Why would I stop something that is so easy to follow and workd so well. Once I reach my weight loss goals I simply start to add more healthy carbs back into my daily meals. Keto works for me. Maybe it isn't for everyone but don't discount those of us who are being successful and healthy because of it.
Don't take it personally. They do this to ANYONE who DARES to eat differently than they do. This site can be very anti-lowcarb. Sad, but true. The best way to deal with it is to roll your eyes and move on. That's what I do. I've been keto-ing for over a year. I lost 30ish lbs that would not budge on a normal eating plan where my carbs were way too high and my fat was way too low.
Again, to reiterate, any diet where you eat less calories then you burn will work, keto included. If you can transition out of keto without going into a caloric surplus, you will maintain your weight loss. Many people simply have trouble doing that.0 -
FYI...Regarding your profile information:Robin Williams committed suicide, he did not die from poor health
I don't think anyone knows the truth yet, he only died so autopsy not carried out.
as for the original op* post way to long [TLTR], and i have to say that unless you are in competitive mode this style of eating is dangerous which is why you can only do for three months, cant be healthy eating then in my opinion.0 -
Talks about broscience, gives temporary diet for losing weight that is used for cutting/bulking on a site where people can't keep 2 lbs off.
8/10
Speaking of two extra pounds. How is your wife's cheeks doing?
Next time, though, you can ask her yourself - her Profile is MegSommer on here. She, too, is confident enough to have her own picture as her profile, so you can be mirin all day if that's your thing.
Does she go around trolling ED sufferers?
You know, now that I think of it, I think I have caught her on the Viagra website's forums making fun of those poor guys. ED is a terrible thing. Heartless, that one.0 -
low carb is not the same as ketosis. Most people in prep do get low carb but it's more because their overall calories get so low. Most of them are not in ketosis. Also, the population of people who actually get contest lean is extremely low. Most people around here just want to lose weight. If contest prep is your goal, you need a coach. Your coach can handle how many carbs you eat.The post was way to long. Did not read. Nothing is "the king for dropping lbs" besides a caloric deficit. If you are in ketosis and eat more calories in a day then you burn, you'll not lose weight. You can substitute any word or diet for ketosis in that last sentence and it's still true. Any time you lose weight over the long term it's because of a calorie deficit. Keto works wonders for some because it makes it easier for them to adhere to a calorie deficit. The issue is, most people struggle when transitioning out of the keto diet and gain back much if not all of what they lost. I prefer a much less restrictive form of dieting that has a much easier transition to maintenance once weight is lost.
this but low carb has its place in contest prep because it is highly effective at eliminating water weight
i'm just saying its good at emilinating water weight, and if it has any advantage, that would be it. not sure if you technically have to be in ketosis to achieve the effect.0 -
FYI...Regarding your profile information:Robin Williams committed suicide, he did not die from poor health
I don't think anyone knows the truth yet, he only died so autopsy not carried out.
as for the original op* post way to long [TLTR], and i have to say that unless you are in competitive mode this style of eating is dangerous which is why you can only do for three months, cant be healthy eating then in my opinion.
one could argue the suicide was brought on my poor mental health...0 -
Too much work...0
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If it works for you, use it. I'll pass.0
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