My no carb dieting needs work. Help!
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Hie. Just reading your posts I think u been on this zero carb diet for long. U are depriving ur body the Carbos and this Alone might putting strain in ur metabolism though am not a doctor. Since u also do gym I wud suggest u limit ur proteins to 120g a day, increase vegetables to 200g a day u mite have 100g foe lunch and another for supper. Try cook in less oil.. 15mls fat a day. Them take 3 carbos in a day ie. 70 g rice or 100g potato etc u cud split them between meals or have 1 CC for bfast and 2 CC For lunch and zero carbos for dinner but veges and protein. Yogurt as a snack during day and 3 fruits during the day. You should be alright. Drink 2 liter water daily or more
yeah, this post gave me a good chuckle too -___-0 -
I haven't posted back, because this whole thread got hijacked and too many arguments. I will give some answers, but was really hoping this site would be helpful, not make me question my existence LOL. I can't quote everyone, so I will give answers and questions to as much as I can.
1. Overall I started Keto from the recommendation of a co-worker who had started it. Granted, he started at a lower weight than myself. His recommendation came because of the "fluff" I was still seeing and told him I felt like I wasn't losing in the stomach area like I wanted. That is where his original recommendation came from, because of the carbs. Told him I was doing dole or yoplait smoothie in the morning, and for lunch I would sometimes do a turkey sandwich with pretzels and so on. He pointed out the carbs because of that and me eating bananas and such. I got on this because I was determined to burn body fat, because as I've gotten into working out, I know that was my biggest clean up area.
2. As the conversation turned from weird and mean, I want everyone to understand MY questions and concerns. I do not want to do a Keto diet, nor am I sure how hardcore I was with it. I never cheated, but may not have been taking in enough fat. I would barely eat lunch most of the time, and dinner would almost feel like I was to full even though I wasn't eating that much. I have an appointment with the nutritionist tomorrow, and I'm hoping she can help along with this forum.
I want a balanced diet, that will help me lose about 20lbs healthy over the course of the next few months. My goal is 185, and I know that isn't attainable within the next 30 days, I'm not stupid. Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. Am I watching everything I eat, yes but who really doesn't when they are trying to obtain a goal.
Simply put, I have never had anyone really teach me how to workout properly, or eat properly other than common sense, and health class in school LOL. Tomorrow's visit may be a great thing, because speaking in person to someone could make a world of difference. I know people say you shouldn't workout more than 5 days a week, but I just simply enjoy it. I've never gotten into it before, and for me it's that time I can just enjoy to myself that used to come from playing video games after marriage, or a Saturday night out with my friends.
I was really just worried about my temper and patience level recently. For the people who posted with good insight and thoughts.....thank you. For the people who argued with other people, I say this. Understand that while your beliefs are you own, you will not change peoples opinions OVER THE INTERNET, no matter how hard you try. This one post could really turn me away from this site, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.
I'm really just looking for a good diet plan that will allow me eat healthy, while also not having to be sooooo picky. I don't like beans, sprouts, nuts, and so on. I want to be a healthy, fit person who doesn't feel like he is deprived by what he is eating. Basically I want everything anyone wants LOL0 -
Go here....
www.iifym.com
Do some reading.
Thank me later.0 -
Harassment? Lol. Because your ideas are challenged. Classic. Soon I guess we will all be Bullies. You adamantly push an idea you can't even show works for you. But yet you are superior. Lol. LOL
Oh yea, and the Rock does keto, lol, nope.
I will give you this since MFP would not give you the values easily since I do alternate day fasting: My numbers look like this on average for a week:
1180 calories 71.766% Fat, 22.448 7% protein, 7.971% carb.
So you're eating on average, less than 1,200 calories per day? This would be why you've lost weight since February when you joined. Caloric deficit.0 -
Go here....
www.iifym.com
Do some reading.
Thank me later.
Yeah!
Also...
I lost count, but I'm guessing...
Mostly, I'm thinking it's Collective Soul
But what's going through my head right now is:
"Crazy Lucky"0 -
I haven't posted back, because this whole thread got hijacked and too many arguments. I will give some answers, but was really hoping this site would be helpful, not make me question my existence LOL. I can't quote everyone, so I will give answers and questions to as much as I can.
1. Overall I started Keto from the recommendation of a co-worker who had started it. Granted, he started at a lower weight than myself. His recommendation came because of the "fluff" I was still seeing and told him I felt like I wasn't losing in the stomach area like I wanted. That is where his original recommendation came from, because of the carbs. Told him I was doing dole or yoplait smoothie in the morning, and for lunch I would sometimes do a turkey sandwich with pretzels and so on. He pointed out the carbs because of that and me eating bananas and such. I got on this because I was determined to burn body fat, because as I've gotten into working out, I know that was my biggest clean up area.
2. As the conversation turned from weird and mean, I want everyone to understand MY questions and concerns. I do not want to do a Keto diet, nor am I sure how hardcore I was with it. I never cheated, but may not have been taking in enough fat. I would barely eat lunch most of the time, and dinner would almost feel like I was to full even though I wasn't eating that much. I have an appointment with the nutritionist tomorrow, and I'm hoping she can help along with this forum.
I want a balanced diet, that will help me lose about 20lbs healthy over the course of the next few months. My goal is 185, and I know that isn't attainable within the next 30 days, I'm not stupid. Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. Am I watching everything I eat, yes but who really doesn't when they are trying to obtain a goal.
Simply put, I have never had anyone really teach me how to workout properly, or eat properly other than common sense, and health class in school LOL. Tomorrow's visit may be a great thing, because speaking in person to someone could make a world of difference. I know people say you shouldn't workout more than 5 days a week, but I just simply enjoy it. I've never gotten into it before, and for me it's that time I can just enjoy to myself that used to come from playing video games after marriage, or a Saturday night out with my friends.
I was really just worried about my temper and patience level recently. For the people who posted with good insight and thoughts.....thank you. For the people who argued with other people, I say this. Understand that while your beliefs are you own, you will not change peoples opinions OVER THE INTERNET, no matter how hard you try. This one post could really turn me away from this site, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.
I'm really just looking for a good diet plan that will allow me eat healthy, while also not having to be sooooo picky. I don't like beans, sprouts, nuts, and so on. I want to be a healthy, fit person who doesn't feel like he is deprived by what he is eating. Basically I want everything anyone wants LOL
I don't mean to sound condescending, but you're 30 years old. Think for yourself, research for yourself, and stop listening to bros who tell you that you need a ketogenic diet because you look puffy (which, for what it's worth, isn't exactly what you were following by eating tons of lean protein and protein shakes, as your protein macro looks way too high for what you need, not to mention you were eating the same boring meals every single day... those macros bear a closer resemblance to the historic version of a ketogenic diet developed to treat epilepsy in children) . That's some broscience if I've ever heard it. Stop relying on other people to teach you how to do basic things like lose weight and do a little research. Since you've made it this far, it's fair to say you have a working Internet connection, so use it. There are tons of great resources out there - Scooby's site and IIFYM are decent resources if you just want a basic understanding of nutrition, bodyrecomposition.com is a better choice if you want more detailed answers and some of the underlying science, and there are millions of other great resources out there that won't cost you a penny to peruse. But generally it's as simple as tracking what you eat and setting some basic macros.
So, for your questions.
1. Flexible dieting/IIFYM, set your own macros to suit your preferences. Rather than asking for someone to tell you what to eat, set your own macros and a reasonable caloric deficit and go from there.
2. Who knows.
3. That isn't a question, but you can't spot reduce, so focus on lowering your overall body fat percentage.0 -
I haven't posted back, because this whole thread got hijacked and too many arguments. I will give some answers, but was really hoping this site would be helpful, not make me question my existence LOL. I can't quote everyone, so I will give answers and questions to as much as I can.
1. Overall I started Keto from the recommendation of a co-worker who had started it. Granted, he started at a lower weight than myself. His recommendation came because of the "fluff" I was still seeing and told him I felt like I wasn't losing in the stomach area like I wanted. That is where his original recommendation came from, because of the carbs. Told him I was doing dole or yoplait smoothie in the morning, and for lunch I would sometimes do a turkey sandwich with pretzels and so on. He pointed out the carbs because of that and me eating bananas and such. I got on this because I was determined to burn body fat, because as I've gotten into working out, I know that was my biggest clean up area.
2. As the conversation turned from weird and mean, I want everyone to understand MY questions and concerns. I do not want to do a Keto diet, nor am I sure how hardcore I was with it. I never cheated, but may not have been taking in enough fat. I would barely eat lunch most of the time, and dinner would almost feel like I was to full even though I wasn't eating that much. I have an appointment with the nutritionist tomorrow, and I'm hoping she can help along with this forum.
I want a balanced diet, that will help me lose about 20lbs healthy over the course of the next few months. My goal is 185, and I know that isn't attainable within the next 30 days, I'm not stupid. Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. Am I watching everything I eat, yes but who really doesn't when they are trying to obtain a goal.
Simply put, I have never had anyone really teach me how to workout properly, or eat properly other than common sense, and health class in school LOL. Tomorrow's visit may be a great thing, because speaking in person to someone could make a world of difference. I know people say you shouldn't workout more than 5 days a week, but I just simply enjoy it. I've never gotten into it before, and for me it's that time I can just enjoy to myself that used to come from playing video games after marriage, or a Saturday night out with my friends.
I was really just worried about my temper and patience level recently. For the people who posted with good insight and thoughts.....thank you. For the people who argued with other people, I say this. Understand that while your beliefs are you own, you will not change peoples opinions OVER THE INTERNET, no matter how hard you try. This one post could really turn me away from this site, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.
I'm really just looking for a good diet plan that will allow me eat healthy, while also not having to be sooooo picky. I don't like beans, sprouts, nuts, and so on. I want to be a healthy, fit person who doesn't feel like he is deprived by what he is eating. Basically I want everything anyone wants LOL
I don't mean to sound condescending, but you're 30 years old. Think for yourself, research for yourself, and stop listening to bros who tell you that you need a ketogenic diet because you look puffy (which, for what it's worth, isn't exactly what you were following by eating tons of lean protein and protein shakes, as your protein macro looks way too high for what you need, not to mention you were eating the same boring meals every single day... those macros bear a closer resemblance to the historic version of a ketogenic diet developed to treat epilepsy in children) . That's some broscience if I've ever heard it. Stop relying on other people to teach you how to do basic things like lose weight and do a little research. Since you've made it this far, it's fair to say you have a working Internet connection, so use it. There are tons of great resources out there - Scooby's site and IIFYM are decent resources if you just want a basic understanding of nutrition, bodyrecomposition.com is a better choice if you want more detailed answers and some of the underlying science, and there are millions of other great resources out there that won't cost you a penny to peruse. But generally it's as simple as tracking what you eat and setting some basic macros.
So, for your questions.
1. Flexible dieting/IIFYM, set your own macros to suit your preferences. Rather than asking for someone to tell you what to eat, set your own macros and a reasonable caloric deficit and go from there.
2. Who knows.
3. That isn't a question, but you can't spot reduce, so focus on lowering your overall body fat percentage.
I definitely think talking to your nutritionist will be the best way to get the answers you need in a kind and respectful fashion. I've learned to not ask the important questions on here. I hope you find what you're looking for and congrats on your amazing successes so far0 -
I haven't posted back, because this whole thread got hijacked and too many arguments. I will give some answers, but was really hoping this site would be helpful, not make me question my existence LOL. I can't quote everyone, so I will give answers and questions to as much as I can.
1. Overall I started Keto from the recommendation of a co-worker who had started it. Granted, he started at a lower weight than myself. His recommendation came because of the "fluff" I was still seeing and told him I felt like I wasn't losing in the stomach area like I wanted. That is where his original recommendation came from, because of the carbs. Told him I was doing dole or yoplait smoothie in the morning, and for lunch I would sometimes do a turkey sandwich with pretzels and so on. He pointed out the carbs because of that and me eating bananas and such. I got on this because I was determined to burn body fat, because as I've gotten into working out, I know that was my biggest clean up area.
2. As the conversation turned from weird and mean, I want everyone to understand MY questions and concerns. I do not want to do a Keto diet, nor am I sure how hardcore I was with it. I never cheated, but may not have been taking in enough fat. I would barely eat lunch most of the time, and dinner would almost feel like I was to full even though I wasn't eating that much. I have an appointment with the nutritionist tomorrow, and I'm hoping she can help along with this forum.
I want a balanced diet, that will help me lose about 20lbs healthy over the course of the next few months. My goal is 185, and I know that isn't attainable within the next 30 days, I'm not stupid. Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. Am I watching everything I eat, yes but who really doesn't when they are trying to obtain a goal.
Simply put, I have never had anyone really teach me how to workout properly, or eat properly other than common sense, and health class in school LOL. Tomorrow's visit may be a great thing, because speaking in person to someone could make a world of difference. I know people say you shouldn't workout more than 5 days a week, but I just simply enjoy it. I've never gotten into it before, and for me it's that time I can just enjoy to myself that used to come from playing video games after marriage, or a Saturday night out with my friends.
I was really just worried about my temper and patience level recently. For the people who posted with good insight and thoughts.....thank you. For the people who argued with other people, I say this. Understand that while your beliefs are you own, you will not change peoples opinions OVER THE INTERNET, no matter how hard you try. This one post could really turn me away from this site, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.
I'm really just looking for a good diet plan that will allow me eat healthy, while also not having to be sooooo picky. I don't like beans, sprouts, nuts, and so on. I want to be a healthy, fit person who doesn't feel like he is deprived by what he is eating. Basically I want everything anyone wants LOL
I don't mean to sound condescending, but you're 30 years old. Think for yourself, research for yourself, and stop listening to bros who tell you that you need a ketogenic diet because you look puffy (which, for what it's worth, isn't exactly what you were following by eating tons of lean protein and protein shakes, as your protein macro looks way too high for what you need, not to mention you were eating the same boring meals every single day... those macros bear a closer resemblance to the historic version of a ketogenic diet developed to treat epilepsy in children) . That's some broscience if I've ever heard it. Stop relying on other people to teach you how to do basic things like lose weight and do a little research. Since you've made it this far, it's fair to say you have a working Internet connection, so use it. There are tons of great resources out there - Scooby's site and IIFYM are decent resources if you just want a basic understanding of nutrition, bodyrecomposition.com is a better choice if you want more detailed answers and some of the underlying science, and there are millions of other great resources out there that won't cost you a penny to peruse. But generally it's as simple as tracking what you eat and setting some basic macros.
So, for your questions.
1. Flexible dieting/IIFYM, set your own macros to suit your preferences. Rather than asking for someone to tell you what to eat, set your own macros and a reasonable caloric deficit and go from there.
2. Who knows.
3. That isn't a question, but you can't spot reduce, so focus on lowering your overall body fat percentage.
These were questions, based upon the fact that with what I have seen online, I had more questions and heard of people getting good feedback from here.
For all the negativity you left, and the condescending remarks I will simply say thank you for taking the time to post, so that it allowed me to see a grown man use a selfie as a profile pic. I did enjoy that....not trying to be condescending or rude though...0 -
1. As long as you don't have a medical reason to be low carb, then it's not a requirement to lose fat. Going low carb or keto will not increase fat loss. Now, if you do decide to add back carbs, you will gain weight because you will store additional glycogen/water. So if you prefer to eat whatever, maybe slowly add carbs (50gs a week or something) until you get to an acceptable level.
Keep bashing keto though. God forbid that a poster look for help with their chosen method of eating, but it is all I have come to love about MFP users.
Funny, most of the competitive bb'ers I know do not do keto - in fact they keep their carbs as high as possible, as do the athletes.0 -
First, I would never buy a book selling a lifestyle choice for credible sources of information. Anyone can cherry pick studies to provide a biased view on a subject (paleo, vegetarian, vegan, etc...).
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2013/03/13/2013-nsca-personal-trainers-conference-looking-back-at-my-debate-with-dr-jeff-volek/0 -
OP:
I am not sure anyone has asked a few basic questions, and apologies if I missed them:
1) how long have you been lifting and what is your experience with the "Big 3" - squats, deads and bench presss
Edited the other questions as I noticed you were seeing a nutritionist. However, your fats could have been too low - they regulate hormones, s well as other things. If you go low carb you really need to keep your fats pretty high.
ETA: errr wait...while I realize that the post may have been offensive to you, so is your comment about 'selfies' - if you are irritated with one person, please do not use a comment as an insult that could be applied to half of the community here.0 -
I haven't posted back, because this whole thread got hijacked and too many arguments. I will give some answers, but was really hoping this site would be helpful, not make me question my existence LOL. I can't quote everyone, so I will give answers and questions to as much as I can.
1. Overall I started Keto from the recommendation of a co-worker who had started it. Granted, he started at a lower weight than myself. His recommendation came because of the "fluff" I was still seeing and told him I felt like I wasn't losing in the stomach area like I wanted. That is where his original recommendation came from, because of the carbs. Told him I was doing dole or yoplait smoothie in the morning, and for lunch I would sometimes do a turkey sandwich with pretzels and so on. He pointed out the carbs because of that and me eating bananas and such. I got on this because I was determined to burn body fat, because as I've gotten into working out, I know that was my biggest clean up area.
2. As the conversation turned from weird and mean, I want everyone to understand MY questions and concerns. I do not want to do a Keto diet, nor am I sure how hardcore I was with it. I never cheated, but may not have been taking in enough fat. I would barely eat lunch most of the time, and dinner would almost feel like I was to full even though I wasn't eating that much. I have an appointment with the nutritionist tomorrow, and I'm hoping she can help along with this forum.
I want a balanced diet, that will help me lose about 20lbs healthy over the course of the next few months. My goal is 185, and I know that isn't attainable within the next 30 days, I'm not stupid. Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. Am I watching everything I eat, yes but who really doesn't when they are trying to obtain a goal.
Simply put, I have never had anyone really teach me how to workout properly, or eat properly other than common sense, and health class in school LOL. Tomorrow's visit may be a great thing, because speaking in person to someone could make a world of difference. I know people say you shouldn't workout more than 5 days a week, but I just simply enjoy it. I've never gotten into it before, and for me it's that time I can just enjoy to myself that used to come from playing video games after marriage, or a Saturday night out with my friends.
I was really just worried about my temper and patience level recently. For the people who posted with good insight and thoughts.....thank you. For the people who argued with other people, I say this. Understand that while your beliefs are you own, you will not change peoples opinions OVER THE INTERNET, no matter how hard you try. This one post could really turn me away from this site, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.
I'm really just looking for a good diet plan that will allow me eat healthy, while also not having to be sooooo picky. I don't like beans, sprouts, nuts, and so on. I want to be a healthy, fit person who doesn't feel like he is deprived by what he is eating. Basically I want everything anyone wants LOL
Before you leave, give it some time. There are people who feel very strongly about their way of eating and if others suggest against it will start debate. But keep in mind, that many of these debates bring a lot of science (well at least some of the time). There are some very knowledgeable people on this board that will help.
With that said, weight loss will occur in a calorie deficit (regardless of which lifestyle you chose). If you plan on coming off of a low carb diet and use a moderate/balanced approach, then you have to understand, you will gain some water weight as you will increase the amount of glycogen stored. It's possible the additional carbs will help your short temper. Honestly, you can give it a try for a few weeks to see if it does help.0 -
These were questions, based upon the fact that with what I have seen online, I had more questions and heard of people getting good feedback from here.
For all the negativity you left, and the condescending remarks I will simply say thank you for taking the time to post, so that it allowed me to see a grown man use a selfie as a profile pic. I did enjoy that....not trying to be condescending or rude though...
You've gotten good answers in this thread. Whether you choose to take the advice is up to you. If this thread was too negative for you though, I'm not sure how you've survived the Internet this long. And you're welcome to make fun of my picture if that sort of diversion makes you feel better - I'll be the first to admit it's a terrible pic.0 -
I was going to just leave this, but since you specifically referred to things I said, I feel like I should clarify some things.2. As the conversation turned from weird and mean, I want everyone to understand MY questions and concerns. I do not want to do a Keto diet, nor am I sure how hardcore I was with it. I never cheated, but may not have been taking in enough fat. I would barely eat lunch most of the time, and dinner would almost feel like I was to full even though I wasn't eating that much. I have an appointment with the nutritionist tomorrow, and I'm hoping she can help along with this forum.
From your original post:I had one cheat meal a week, but for the most part just ate tons of protein and lean fat.
As I said in my other post, I don't think you were actually in a ketogenic state to begin with, but even if you eating properly to promote the ketogenic state, if you did have a cheat meal every week without establishing the keto foundation (basically, the first month without cheats), then this cheat meal may have been counterproductive to your goals.
If you don't want to do keto, that's fine. Not everyone wants to, and that's the beauty of being a human -- we can live on damn near any kind of diet. However, please don't think that the diet you outlined in your first post was a properly-executed ketogenic diet, because it wasn't. A proper, functional ketogenic diet isn't anywhere near that restrictive, so please don't blame a dietary framework for mistakes you made.I want a balanced diet, that will help me lose about 20lbs healthy over the course of the next few months. My goal is 185, and I know that isn't attainable within the next 30 days, I'm not stupid. Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. Am I watching everything I eat, yes but who really doesn't when they are trying to obtain a goal.
I didn't say you were anorexic. I said you showed signs of it. While anorexia is technically the proper term for the behaviors/mindset that I saw in your original post, if it makes you feel better, we can call it "disordered eating" or "unhealthy relationship with food and exercise." Either way, it still seems to me like you should take a break from "dieting" and just focus on eating real, nutrient dense food.
The truth of the matter is that any eating framework (yes, even calorie counting) can trigger a disordered relationship with food (I've experienced it first hand and had to take a break from tracking because of it). Eating disorders are mental disorders at their root, so even if you're not intentionally trying to starve yourself, you may be setting yourself up to go down that path if you keep doing what you're doing. It's important to be cognizant of the signs of that, so that you don't go down that dark path. This isn't being "mean," this is expressing genuine concern over your relationship with eating and exercise habits.
Additionally, you don't need keto to lose the 20lbs you want to lose. You don't need any particular one of the dozens of tools out there. The only thing you really need to do is take in less than you burn (by eating less and/or prompting your body to burn more). Keto, MFP, IIFYM, etc. are all just tools to enable you to do that, and to help you stick to it. What you do is less important than that you do it, and stick to it.Simply put, I have never had anyone really teach me how to workout properly, or eat properly other than common sense, and health class in school LOL. Tomorrow's visit may be a great thing, because speaking in person to someone could make a world of difference. I know people say you shouldn't workout more than 5 days a week, but I just simply enjoy it. I've never gotten into it before, and for me it's that time I can just enjoy to myself that used to come from playing video games after marriage, or a Saturday night out with my friends.
The best thing you can do for yourself is to research things for yourself. Yes, it's daunting. I've seen nutrition science and "health and fitness" be described as a black hole. I think it's fitting. However, it, and life in general, are a constant evolution. You can start, however, with the basics. The stickies at the top of the forum sections are a fantastic place to start.
Research why "they" say not to exercise so much (hint - recovery is just as important as the workout, if not moreso). Read up on what foods can give you the proper nutrients to meet your goals. You said yourself, you're not stupid. So don't blindly follow anyone (not even the nutritionist). Go out an learn why people suggest the things they do, and determine if it's something that would work for you.Most people started trying to analyze me, without paying attention to my concerns. I'm not depressed, my kid isn't bad, and I don't feel like I'm anorexic. [...]
I was really just worried about my temper and patience level recently.
Your temper is a good thing to be worried about. However, the very fact that you have a young child, and another on the way, are in and of themselves major stressers and major variables. I know, I've got a 4 year old boy, myself. People (myself included) were asking questions to get more information, because you said yourself that you're fine until you get home with your son. This pretty much screams "it's probably something other than or in addition to diet."
No one here has said your son is "bad," nor have any of us implied that you're a bad parent. Your son is a three year old boy. Three year olds, especially boys, are pretty much programmed to push their parents. This is the time they learn social boundaries. They do that by walking that fine line between being sweet and innocent, and making you want to wring their neck. It's not necessarily "bad" or "good," it just is. Additionally, there may be things that he's doing that annoy you, and that's what's setting you off -- dawdling while getting ready for bed, or mashing his food before eating it, etc. These things aren't "bad" behaviors (he's not really breaking any rules), but they get on your nerves. It's very important to look at the whole picture.
As for myself, I'm a software developer, and I've worked in a support capacity of one form or another for the past decade. Solving problems is practically part of my DNA. One thing I've found in the past decade is that people generally suck at asking the questions that get the answers they actually need. This is especially the case when it comes to complex problems. That's where the probing questions and "analyzing" come from. The things you've described don't really add up. For example, you made no mention of your temper from January to June, and it was only in the last month or two that you noticed yourself getting short-tempered. Yet, you're suspecting your diet. But if it was your diet, why didn't it happen in the first half of the year? These things don't add up, so we ask questions like "did your son's behavior change?" Again, these questions aren't to belittle you or be mean, but rather to get a more complete picture of what you're experiencing, and to get to the actual roots of the problems you're experiencing, so we can help you to actually fix the problem.
To continue the temper thing -- what if we just said "yes, it's the lack of carbs doing it," without considering any other possibility, and you increase your carbs, but a month from now, your temper hasn't improved (or worse, it gets worse)? How would you feel? Would you feel like we lied to you? Would you feel despair, that "nothing" is working? Would you feel more frustrated? The problem with that is that the focus was on the carb intake, but the root cause was somewhere else, and by not taking a moment to consider that it might be something else, you just wasted a month going down the wrong route to fix that particular problem.For the people who posted with good insight and thoughts.....thank you. For the people who argued with other people, I say this. Understand that while your beliefs are you own, you will not change peoples opinions OVER THE INTERNET, no matter how hard you try. This one post could really turn me away from this site, and was hoping that wouldn't happen.
This is the Internet. MFP is actually rather tame compared to other corners of the Internet. The recent debacle with 4chan and iCloud should be a pretty clear example of that. You're going to get that kind of reaction anywhere.
Frankly, there are two comics that I think describe these phenomena very well:
http://xkcd.com/386/
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19
That said, there are certain key words that are basically like chumming a shark tank on these forums. Keto is one of them. For reference, so is "clean eating," "paleo," and really any other phrase/word/name that implies eating philosophies that intentionally focus on anything other or more than calories in vs calories out.
This is why I recommended the groups I did in my PM to you. Even if you choose not to continue keto, you suspect that the problems you've run into are a result of your diet, which you thought was keto. The best place, then, to ask such questions, is the group of people who have successfully followed that diet. Additionally, you're less likely to get your thread hijacked by opposing interests.
Another thing to keep in mind is that people on MFP are, generally speaking, supportive. However, "supportive" does not mean always giving you a pat on the back. If they think you're doing something wrong, dangerous, stupid, or just unwise, they're going to tell you. They're going to tell you, not to be "mean" or discourage or bash you, but because a lot of people here have been there and learned the hard way, themselves, or they know enough to say "hey, this is a bad idea, don't do it."I'm really just looking for a good diet plan that will allow me eat healthy, while also not having to be sooooo picky. I don't like beans, sprouts, nuts, and so on. I want to be a healthy, fit person who doesn't feel like he is deprived by what he is eating. Basically I want everything anyone wants LOL
As Michael Pollan put it -- eat food, not too much, mostly plants. Also, as I mentioned earlier, the diet you (thought you) were on doesn't require you "to be sooooo picky." You were simply doing it wrong. I wasn't kidding when I say a burger is kosher on a keto diet, and, in fact, doesn't require you to trade out the mayo for mustard or skip the cheese if you don't want to, you just have to select a different bun.
If you don't like a particular food, there's no sane way of eating on the planet that will force you to eat it. For example, I eat according to Paleo/Primal guidelines, but I don't like kale (the arguable champion of greens, especially in such circles). I've chosen to try it a number of times, but just can't get past the bitter taste of it. So guess what? I don't eat it. Likewise, I know a number of vegans/vegetarians, who don't eat beans, soy, or gluten, or who eat low carb. A good way of eating or dietary framework should be flexible enough to allow you to choose or not choose a particular food. If it isn't, then it's either not a way of eating (and is, instead, a fad diet), or you're doing something wrong.
The simple truth of the matter is that every way of eating restricts something. Even the "eat whatever you want, as long as it's within your macros and calories" frameworks require you to restrict things and make choices based on certain criteria. With them, though, that criteria is how much, while with frameworks like keto, Paleo, veg*n, etc., the restriction comes more from "what." For some people, the former works just fine. For others, the latter works better. It takes some exploration and experimentation to figure out which one works best for you.0
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