Giving up sugar and white flour forever.
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Well there's quite a few companies and people that have made a lot of money marketing such a concept. Personally I'm making braised rabbit with home made parpadelle and focaccia.........really like the time spent making this bread......the double rise and using tomatoes and herbs from my garden and roasting some garlic from a neighbour........can't for the life of me see where this will shorten my time on this planet.
Damn you, Neanderthin. My dinner suddenly looks pretty crappy. :drinker:0 -
Thank you all for your opinions and advice. White sugar = cane sugar. Forever = for the rest of my life, but it is true that I don't need to be legalistic. I feel like I have to be to grantee that I won't binge, but I can see how that could be way too strict. Would I refuse, for example, a cookie that my kid baked just for me? Or lasagna that is served while over someone's house merely because they used prego?
But I definitely need to go on a detox and start with 90 days without cane sugar/processed flour.
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I have not given up sugar completely,i still enjoy honey on my porridge and my dark chocolate every day but i no longer eat cakes,bread,pasta,biscuits,sweets,crisps and try to limit gluten.I feel much better all round ,i dont feel bloated anymore.I eat alot of fruit and vegetables which contain natural sugars but these do not have the same effect on my body as artificial and added sugars.For years we have been lead to believe that fat is the culprit for weight gain,in my opinion healthy fats are essential for the body and its the added rubbish like sugar and white fllour that do the harm.I say good luck to you and perhaps dont elliminate all natural sugars as this will include fruits which are extremely good for you and packed full of essential vitamins but just foods which contain added sugars.0
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Kinda ironic that vegans find this to be very extreme......I found that interesting. carry on. :happy:
Yes but a lot of vegans give up meat through moral grounds - I also think they avoid Nike trainers!0 -
Maybe just save sugary foods for special days, like birthdays, holidays, cookie baking with the kids/grandkids etc... I use whole-wheat white flour in my home baking & buy whole grain products which is easy to do. Perhaps just lessen the amount of process foods you eat on "normal" days & then don't worry about it when it's not a normal day... I have drastically reduced the amount of processed foods I eat (due to a food allergy I was diagnosed with) and I feel so much healthier! But, life just wouldn't be as fun without a little sugar from time to time - and you can buy organic sugar =0)0
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So what are you going to eat if you're giving up sugar and white flour?
Sugar is in pretty much everything: fruits, vegetables, alcohol, lots of foods in the grocery store have sugar.
So if you're giving up cane sugar then does that mean you're going to substitute with brown sugar, or honey, or fake sugar? :huh:0 -
So what are you going to eat if you're giving up sugar and white flour?
Sugar is in pretty much everything: fruits, vegetables, alcohol, lots of foods in the grocery store have sugar.
So if you're giving up cane sugar then does that mean you're going to substitute with brown sugar, or honey, or fake sugar? :huh:
I only said cane sugar, and I will of course eat fruit and all. Brown sugar is white cane sugar before the molasses is taken out. I would use probably honey or 100% maple syrup. Fake sugars can be worse for you than the real stuff.
Organic sugar has the same calorie content, but many times it is completely worth it to purchase fair trade! Reading up on how big sugar companies gets their sugar makes me think going without it can also be for ethical reasons. http://equalitywalk2.blogspot.com/2014/05/where-does-your-sugar-come-from.html Just fuel for thought.0 -
So what are you going to eat if you're giving up sugar and white flour?
Sugar is in pretty much everything: fruits, vegetables, alcohol, lots of foods in the grocery store have sugar.
So if you're giving up cane sugar then does that mean you're going to substitute with brown sugar, or honey, or fake sugar? :huh:
I only said cane sugar, and I will of course eat fruit and all. Brown sugar is white cane sugar before the molasses is taken out. I would use probably honey or 100% maple syrup. Fake sugars can be worse for you than the real stuff.
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Personal opinion only here... but making ´never´ and ´none´ statements do not really belong in a health and nutrition forum. There just is no health benefit to completely eliminating normal food types.
Health is not an extreme sport, you do not get healthier by making radical choices. All things in moderation.0 -
Why not just work on the mental side of this journey and learn to fit any food (except for those that you do not like of course) into your daily calorie goals. I was mindlessly ate over 10,000 calories a day. I bought 21 in. Pizza's several times a week and had them delivered and would put them in tupperware and hide them in closets while my family was gone so I had snacks to eat once they all went to bed. and the same went for individually packaged snacks like swiss cake , etc... The very first thing I realized was there wasn't a chance in hell I could ever give those foods up for the rest of my life (for the simple fact that I like Pizza and cookies and whatnot) but at the same time I had to figure out a way to fit them within my day along with more nutrient dense foods to meet my daily goals... So that was the approach I took, was it easy?? Heck no, but now there is ice cream in the freezer and opened packages of Oreo on the counter that I can walk past daily if it doesn't fit my day and am perfectly fine with it... That is the approach I would suggest taking because in my opinion taking such extreme approaches (even though in a minority of people it may work for) will more times than not end terrible and is why people continue to lose weight and gain it all back and then some... If you do not get into the right mindset for this journey then you can almost guarantee that you will fail...... Just my 2 cents.... Best of Luck0
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Is there anyone who has done it? It is not as extreme as going vegan, but I wonder if white flour and white sugar-free is a thing. Does anyone have tips on how to give it up?
If you want to give it up, then just don't eat it. I don't know what other tip you would need. Buy 100% wholemeal flour, bread, noodles, etc. Use alternative sweeteners like honey, molasses, maple syrup, juice, fruit, etc. when needed. Don't eat foods if you aren't sure of the ingredients.
But, I think you will eventually find it unsustainable. I think these are good things to eat less of, but giving them up entirely can be very limiting to lifestyle.0 -
Is there anyone who has done it? It is not as extreme as going vegan, but I wonder if white flour and white sugar-free is a thing. Does anyone have tips on how to give it up?0
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I feel like I have to be to grantee that I won't binge, but I can see how that could be way too strict. Would I refuse, for example, a cookie that my kid baked just for me? Or lasagna that is served while over someone's house merely because they used prego?
you don't need to cut stuff out and go to extreme's- you need to get some discipline.0 -
Hell no! Because cake.
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Yes, and I know there are differing opinions on this but I have done this. I started eating whole wheat everything, still do, try to avoid white anything, breads, pasta, etc or simple carbs but I have a medical reason for doing so. I have PCOS which is related to diabetes and insulin resistance.
I don't think these things are necessary to give up unless you have a medical reason for doing so
I haven't ever gone cold turkey- balls to the wall type of give up thing, and still have a popsicle or other sugar when I want, but I do limit my intake severely from before I was changing my lifestyle ,, but again I have a medical reason to do so0 -
I think you should try and De-Tox your body of both for awhile to see if there are any health benefits.
How can you de-tox from something that is not toxic in the first place?
I like the cut of your jib.0 -
So what are you going to eat if you're giving up sugar and white flour?
Sugar is in pretty much everything: fruits, vegetables, alcohol, lots of foods in the grocery store have sugar.
So if you're giving up cane sugar then does that mean you're going to substitute with brown sugar, or honey, or fake sugar? :huh:
I only said cane sugar, and I will of course eat fruit and all. Brown sugar is white cane sugar before the molasses is taken out. I would use probably honey or 100% maple syrup. Fake sugars can be worse for you than the real stuff.
I know because I ferment them all.0 -
@skullshank
http://www.nutralegacy.com/blog/general-healthcare/top-10-dangers-of-artificial-sweeteners/
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/nutrition/artificial-sweetenersPersonal opinion only here... but making ´never´ and ´none´ statements do not really belong in a health and nutrition forum. There just is no health benefit to completely eliminating normal food types.
Health is not an extreme sport, you do not get healthier by making radical choices. All things in moderation.
Since when did sugar become a normal food type? Starch is, and I am just limiting white wheat, not whole grains. No "normal" food types are eliminated.
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I know I lack self-control, and I know discipline is like a muscle...the more you use it the stronger it gets. Why must this be so difficult? I don't know what else to do.0 -
Are you going to read every label on everything you purchase? Are you prepared to make homemade everything every day? Is there a medical reason why you need to give these up?
I can see why someone would want to cut back on white flour and sugar, but to say forever seems a bit much.0 -
Cracks me up so many people get emotional over somebody's choice to do without something.
if you don't want to eat or have something ever again then just don't eat it. build your lifestyle around it and carry on.
It's your life, enjoy it as you see fit.0
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