It's not fair

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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    The only way to lose weight is to burn more calories than you burn. You husband lost weight because he ate less calories than he burned. You have not lost weight because you did not eat less calories than you burned.

    Hubby is inspirational. If he can do it, so can you.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I heard we were having a meeting.

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    Oh. Wait.

    This is our sister organization.

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    Carry on.
  • skaffle
    skaffle Posts: 29 Member
    Hormones.

    Their bodies are designed to be athletic. Our bodies are designed to be nurturing (aka fat).

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  • tigerblue
    tigerblue Posts: 1,526 Member
    I can't believe all the rude comments! You people should be ashamed!

    OP, it is definitely harder for women, just because we are smaller and less muscular! Now, that doesn't mean we can't lose, and you might carefully examine your logging, ( we are all prone to error. I figure I am off 10% one way or the other all the time!). As others have said, if you are truly very accurate, and still not losing, looking at medical reasons, including hormones, would be smart.

    But here is the bottom line--because we are smaller and hormonally designed to conserve body fat for reproduction, our TDEE's are smaller. And it is HARDER to stay within that number when it is smaller. And then when you take a deficit, wow it is tough!

    My husband can eat and exercise reasonably and lose. For me, if I eat reasonably (like 1600ish calories a day) and exercise moderately, I will maintain. 1600 is not a huge amount of food, unless you especially like leaves and sticks! And a lot of lean chicken or tuna. There is not a lot of room for treats.

    And to lose, I must cut down to under 1400 a day. I dare you men to try and eat 1400 a day and not be ravenous and hangry!

    But that is real life for a small (not just short, but small and slim) woman.

    So, yes it is harder for women. Because even though I am petite and slim, my appetite is not petitie. I have the appetite of a teenage boy. In fact most days I could out eat my 16 year old son, if I would let myself!

    So women must endure a little more pain!

    You CAN do it OP. It is hard, but be disciplined and dedicated, and forget about anyone else's results! Just keep making good choices every day over and over!

    And shame on all you who treated her like a slacker!!!!
  • silentKayak
    silentKayak Posts: 658 Member
    That's right. It's not fair. I've had a lifelong struggle with my weight. At the food level I prefer, the exercise level I prefer, and the job I love, I would put on about 20 lbs/year if I did nothing to control my weight. If I eat really well and exercise more than I want to, I can maintain my weight. In order to lose, I either have to reduce food intake to where I'm pretty well always hungry, or increase my exercise to a level that's not long-term sustainable because I don't have time and I hate it.

    You can't change your metabolism, your preferences, or your hunger level. But you can control some of them. For example, I've learned that high fiber, low-carb meals during the day let me control the hunger "beast", and a single high-calorie meal in the evening gives me something to look forward to. I've learned which foods I can live without and which ones I can't (or don't choose to). I've learned to steal enough time from work and my family to get in a little bit of exercise. I've also learned to take advantage of the resources I DO have (plenty of money, supportive husband, always-on internet, mad math skillz, cooking skills, self-control, good walking neighborhood) to try to compensate for my disadvantages in weight loss (low metabolism, low activity level, hatred of exercise, bad knees & ankles, long hours at desk job, long hours of family responsibilities, chronic depression, high appetite).

    You're not your husband. What works for him won't necessarily work for you. But if you want to lose those 11 lbs, you're in the right place, because we can help you figure out what you can change.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    I can't believe all the rude comments! You people should be ashamed!

    OP, it is definitely harder for women, just because we are smaller and less muscular! Now, that doesn't mean we can't lose, and you might carefully examine your logging, ( we are all prone to error. I figure I am off 10% one way or the other all the time!). As others have said, if you are truly very accurate, and still not losing, looking at medical reasons, including hormones, would be smart.

    But here is the bottom line--because we are smaller and hormonally designed to conserve body fat for reproduction, our TDEE's are smaller. And it is HARDER to stay within that number when it is smaller. And then when you take a deficit, wow it is tough!

    My husband can eat and exercise reasonably and lose. For me, if I eat reasonably (like 1600ish calories a day) and exercise moderately, I will maintain. 1600 is not a huge amount of food, unless you especially like leaves and sticks! And a lot of lean chicken or tuna. There is not a lot of room for treats.

    And to lose, I must cut down to under 1400 a day. I dare you men to try and eat 1400 a day and not be ravenous and hangry!

    But that is real life for a small (not just short, but small and slim) woman.

    So, yes it is harder for women. Because even though I am petite and slim, my appetite is not petitie. I have the appetite of a teenage boy. In fact most days I could out eat my 16 year old son, if I would let myself!

    So women must endure a little more pain!

    You CAN do it OP. It is hard, but be disciplined and dedicated, and forget about anyone else's results! Just keep making good choices every day over and over!

    And shame on all you who treated her like a slacker!!!!

    Have to say I agree with this. With the average male healthy weight being higher than that of females, they generally can eat more food than we can in order to maintain said healthy weight. The main reason this observation could still seem like whining (to me) is that not all men are super tall, you could still have a gentleman that's 5'6" and he'd have to figure out a way to eat less food or exercise more than his 6'5" buddy in order to maintain a healthy weight. Yeah life's not fair but what's wrong with venting every once in a while?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    I can't believe all the rude comments! You people should be ashamed!

    OP, it is definitely harder for women, just because we are smaller and less muscular! Now, that doesn't mean we can't lose, and you might carefully examine your logging, ( we are all prone to error. I figure I am off 10% one way or the other all the time!). As others have said, if you are truly very accurate, and still not losing, looking at medical reasons, including hormones, would be smart.

    But here is the bottom line--because we are smaller and hormonally designed to conserve body fat for reproduction, our TDEE's are smaller. And it is HARDER to stay within that number when it is smaller. And then when you take a deficit, wow it is tough!

    My husband can eat and exercise reasonably and lose. For me, if I eat reasonably (like 1600ish calories a day) and exercise moderately, I will maintain. 1600 is not a huge amount of food, unless you especially like leaves and sticks! And a lot of lean chicken or tuna. There is not a lot of room for treats.

    And to lose, I must cut down to under 1400 a day. I dare you men to try and eat 1400 a day and not be ravenous and hangry!

    But that is real life for a small (not just short, but small and slim) woman.

    So, yes it is harder for women. Because even though I am petite and slim, my appetite is not petitie. I have the appetite of a teenage boy. In fact most days I could out eat my 16 year old son, if I would let myself!

    So women must endure a little more pain!

    You CAN do it OP. It is hard, but be disciplined and dedicated, and forget about anyone else's results! Just keep making good choices every day over and over!

    And shame on all you who treated her like a slacker!!!!

    Not all men are tall, muscular he-men. Not all women are tiny, petite little flowers. Puh-leeze. there are so many different body types and muscle masses and everything else. Short, lightly muscled men will have the same problem as short, lightly muscled women. People have different metabolic rates as well and can eat different amounts of food for their size as well. Each person is different and must find what works for him or her. Having a personal pity party based on how many treats one can have is kind of silly. It's based on how much work a person is willing to put in and what amount of sacrifice a person is willing to live with.
    Based on OP's story her husband did have weight to lose (since he lost 31 lbs) so he obviously put in the work and ate at a calorie deficit. She didn't, if she didn't lose the weight.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Hormones.

    Their bodies are designed to be athletic. Our bodies are designed to be nurturing (aka fat).

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    This is a copout.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I can't believe all the rude comments! You people should be ashamed!

    OP, it is definitely harder for women, just because we are smaller and less muscular! Now, that doesn't mean we can't lose, and you might carefully examine your logging, ( we are all prone to error. I figure I am off 10% one way or the other all the time!). As others have said, if you are truly very accurate, and still not losing, looking at medical reasons, including hormones, would be smart.

    But here is the bottom line--because we are smaller and hormonally designed to conserve body fat for reproduction, our TDEE's are smaller. And it is HARDER to stay within that number when it is smaller. And then when you take a deficit, wow it is tough!

    My husband can eat and exercise reasonably and lose. For me, if I eat reasonably (like 1600ish calories a day) and exercise moderately, I will maintain. 1600 is not a huge amount of food, unless you especially like leaves and sticks! And a lot of lean chicken or tuna. There is not a lot of room for treats.

    And to lose, I must cut down to under 1400 a day. I dare you men to try and eat 1400 a day and not be ravenous and hangry!

    But that is real life for a small (not just short, but small and slim) woman.

    So, yes it is harder for women. Because even though I am petite and slim, my appetite is not petitie. I have the appetite of a teenage boy. In fact most days I could out eat my 16 year old son, if I would let myself!

    So women must endure a little more pain!

    You CAN do it OP. It is hard, but be disciplined and dedicated, and forget about anyone else's results! Just keep making good choices every day over and over!

    And shame on all you who treated her like a slacker!!!!

    Have to say I agree with this. With the average male healthy weight being higher than that of females, they generally can eat more food than we can in order to maintain said healthy weight. The main reason this observation could still seem like whining (to me) is that not all men are super tall, you could still have a gentleman that's 5'6" and he'd have to figure out a way to eat less food or exercise more than his 6'5" buddy in order to maintain a healthy weight. Yeah life's not fair but what's wrong with venting every once in a while?
    She has been trying to lose 11 pounds for two years.

    Yes, in general women lose a bit more slowly than men. But even taking that into account, 11 pounds in two years? That's less than half a pound a month if she had actually done it. That says something ain't right -- either health-wise (doubtful) or in the effort she's putting in.

    All this whining about her husband should be enough to burn the calories for that fraction of a pound, FPS.
  • PRMinx
    PRMinx Posts: 4,585 Member
    I can't believe all the rude comments! You people should be ashamed!

    OP, it is definitely harder for women, just because we are smaller and less muscular! Now, that doesn't mean we can't lose, and you might carefully examine your logging, ( we are all prone to error. I figure I am off 10% one way or the other all the time!). As others have said, if you are truly very accurate, and still not losing, looking at medical reasons, including hormones, would be smart.

    But here is the bottom line--because we are smaller and hormonally designed to conserve body fat for reproduction, our TDEE's are smaller. And it is HARDER to stay within that number when it is smaller. And then when you take a deficit, wow it is tough!

    My husband can eat and exercise reasonably and lose. For me, if I eat reasonably (like 1600ish calories a day) and exercise moderately, I will maintain. 1600 is not a huge amount of food, unless you especially like leaves and sticks! And a lot of lean chicken or tuna. There is not a lot of room for treats.

    And to lose, I must cut down to under 1400 a day. I dare you men to try and eat 1400 a day and not be ravenous and hangry!

    But that is real life for a small (not just short, but small and slim) woman.

    So, yes it is harder for women. Because even though I am petite and slim, my appetite is not petitie. I have the appetite of a teenage boy. In fact most days I could out eat my 16 year old son, if I would let myself!

    So women must endure a little more pain!

    You CAN do it OP. It is hard, but be disciplined and dedicated, and forget about anyone else's results! Just keep making good choices every day over and over!

    And shame on all you who treated her like a slacker!!!!

    Hey, you know what? It's really hard to get up every day at 5am to bust my *kitten* at the gym and then still count calories all day. But, I do it and I don't complain about it. Because that's how progress happens.

    We can only go by the information that the OP gave us in the first post. She may be trying or she may not be trying. She doesn't discuss what she personally is doing to lose weight. Instead, she is whining about her husband losing weight even though he IS putting in the work.

    Trying to lose 11 pounds in two years? Unless she has a medical condition, she is simply not doing the work. If saying so is rude, then so be it. We are honest around here.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    It may be that this thread is helping her... if you look at OP's diary, you will see a lot of skipped days (most days for as far back as I went, which was about a month). The few days that she is logging, she is fine on calories. But... she is probably over-doing it on days she doesn't log. I've noticed that she has logged for the last few days, which I'm hoping means that all of our criticism is helping.

    With that said, as soon as this thread dies off, my guess is that she will go back to old habits and just start eating without logging or paying attention to how much food is going in her mouth. Her problem is obviously not that she doesn't know she needs a calorie deficit. It is just that she gives up way too fast (every time she logs, it is for a couple of days and then she stops again).

    So I suggest that you (OP) find some better motivation that will actually work. Maybe you need someone to hold you accountable?
  • Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    For those of you thinking I'm doing nothing but sitting on the kitchen floor crying and eating oreo's, that's not accurate. I am up at 3:45 everyday either running or lifting heavy 6 days a week. I have a personal trainer who sets out a meal plan for me (hence the seemingly inaccurate logging) and I'm on the last 10-20 lbs.

    My husband has NEVER worked out prior to this and NEVER paid attention to what he was eating. A few years go, before our wedding he switched from regular soda to diet and lost 10 lbs. That's the only change to his eating he's made in the 10 years I've known him. Now that he's doing P90X (which is hard and is a lot of work - I'm not saying it's not) he's lost about 20 lbs and since following the meal plan a week or so ago, dropped more weight. Since he wasn't working out, has a desk job and was eating more carbs in a day than I eat in a week, OF COURSE it was easier for him to see a change and to get results.

    FWIW he's 6'2"
    SW 210
    CW 179

    I'm 5'1"
    SW 145
    CW 137

    In an effort to take advice from all of you, I will use his success as inspiration/motivation and will keep trucking along. I'll try to stay better about logging my food here to keep myself accountable and will stop whining about it.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    For those of you thinking I'm doing nothing but sitting on the kitchen floor crying and eating oreo's, that's not accurate. I am up at 3:45 everyday either running or lifting heavy 6 days a week. I have a personal trainer who sets out a meal plan for me (hence the seemingly inaccurate logging) and I'm on the last 10-20 lbs.

    My husband has NEVER worked out prior to this and NEVER paid attention to what he was eating. A few years go, before our wedding he switched from regular soda to diet and lost 10 lbs. That's the only change to his eating he's made in the 10 years I've known him. Now that he's doing P90X (which is hard and is a lot of work - I'm not saying it's not) he's lost about 20 lbs and since following the meal plan a week or so ago, dropped more weight. Since he wasn't working out, has a desk job and was eating more carbs in a day than I eat in a week, OF COURSE it was easier for him to see a change and to get results.

    FWIW he's 6'2"
    SW 210
    CW 179

    I'm 5'1"
    SW 145
    CW 137

    In an effort to take advice from all of you, I will use his success as inspiration/motivation and will keep trucking along. I'll try to stay better about logging my food here to keep myself accountable and will stop whining about it.
    If you are working this hard and cannot lose 11 pounds in 24 months, I recommend you see a doctor ASAP. Preferably an endocrinologist. This indicated a health problem.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    For those of you thinking I'm doing nothing but sitting on the kitchen floor crying and eating oreo's, that's not accurate. I am up at 3:45 everyday either running or lifting heavy 6 days a week. I have a personal trainer who sets out a meal plan for me (hence the seemingly inaccurate logging) and I'm on the last 10-20 lbs.

    My husband has NEVER worked out prior to this and NEVER paid attention to what he was eating. A few years go, before our wedding he switched from regular soda to diet and lost 10 lbs. That's the only change to his eating he's made in the 10 years I've known him. Now that he's doing P90X (which is hard and is a lot of work - I'm not saying it's not) he's lost about 20 lbs and since following the meal plan a week or so ago, dropped more weight. Since he wasn't working out, has a desk job and was eating more carbs in a day than I eat in a week, OF COURSE it was easier for him to see a change and to get results.

    FWIW he's 6'2"
    SW 210
    CW 179

    I'm 5'1"
    SW 145
    CW 137

    In an effort to take advice from all of you, I will use his success as inspiration/motivation and will keep trucking along. I'll try to stay better about logging my food here to keep myself accountable and will stop whining about it.
    If you are working this hard and cannot lose 11 pounds in 24 months, I recommend you see a doctor ASAP. Preferably an endocrinologist. This indicated a health problem.

    I disagree. OP says she's "following a meal plan" and doing all of this hard work, but unless that meal plan also includes using a food scale to measure foods, weigh liquids and also track calories (even if on paper), that's still the first area to look at correcting before jumping to a medical explanation. She may be "working hard," but you can't "outrun a diet," as they say. If the lifting is progressive and heavy, then I'd even suggest OP ditch the scale in favor of measurement tracking or tracking with pictures.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    Hah you're welcome. There was literally a commercial about this. Hubby makes all kinds of small changes (they both do) and he's virtually disappearing while she loses nothing. Granted the commercial then goes on to sell some ****ty product, but thats neither here nor there :bigsmile:
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    For those of you thinking I'm doing nothing but sitting on the kitchen floor crying and eating oreo's, that's not accurate. I am up at 3:45 everyday either running or lifting heavy 6 days a week. I have a personal trainer who sets out a meal plan for me (hence the seemingly inaccurate logging) and I'm on the last 10-20 lbs.

    My husband has NEVER worked out prior to this and NEVER paid attention to what he was eating. A few years go, before our wedding he switched from regular soda to diet and lost 10 lbs. That's the only change to his eating he's made in the 10 years I've known him. Now that he's doing P90X (which is hard and is a lot of work - I'm not saying it's not) he's lost about 20 lbs and since following the meal plan a week or so ago, dropped more weight. Since he wasn't working out, has a desk job and was eating more carbs in a day than I eat in a week, OF COURSE it was easier for him to see a change and to get results.

    FWIW he's 6'2"
    SW 210
    CW 179

    I'm 5'1"
    SW 145
    CW 137

    In an effort to take advice from all of you, I will use his success as inspiration/motivation and will keep trucking along. I'll try to stay better about logging my food here to keep myself accountable and will stop whining about it.
    If you are working this hard and cannot lose 11 pounds in 24 months, I recommend you see a doctor ASAP. Preferably an endocrinologist. This indicated a health problem.

    I disagree. OP says she's "following a meal plan" and doing all of this hard work, but unless that meal plan also includes using a food scale to measure foods, weigh liquids and also track calories (even if on paper), that's still the first area to look at correcting before jumping to a medical explanation. She may be "working hard," but you can't "outrun a diet," as they say. If the lifting is progressive and heavy, then I'd even suggest OP ditch the scale in favor of measurement tracking or tracking with pictures.

    Yep. 145 is relatively small. All it takes is not taking some (unknown) calorie bomb condiment into account and you're wiping out your small deficit

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1296011-calorie-counting-101
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    I can't believe all the rude comments! You people should be ashamed!

    OP, it is definitely harder for women, just because we are smaller and less muscular! Now, that doesn't mean we can't lose, and you might carefully examine your logging, ( we are all prone to error. I figure I am off 10% one way or the other all the time!). As others have said, if you are truly very accurate, and still not losing, looking at medical reasons, including hormones, would be smart.

    But here is the bottom line--because we are smaller and hormonally designed to conserve body fat for reproduction, our TDEE's are smaller. And it is HARDER to stay within that number when it is smaller. And then when you take a deficit, wow it is tough!

    My husband can eat and exercise reasonably and lose. For me, if I eat reasonably (like 1600ish calories a day) and exercise moderately, I will maintain. 1600 is not a huge amount of food, unless you especially like leaves and sticks! And a lot of lean chicken or tuna. There is not a lot of room for treats.

    And to lose, I must cut down to under 1400 a day. I dare you men to try and eat 1400 a day and not be ravenous and hangry!

    But that is real life for a small (not just short, but small and slim) woman.

    So, yes it is harder for women. Because even though I am petite and slim, my appetite is not petitie. I have the appetite of a teenage boy. In fact most days I could out eat my 16 year old son, if I would let myself!

    So women must endure a little more pain!

    You CAN do it OP. It is hard, but be disciplined and dedicated, and forget about anyone else's results! Just keep making good choices every day over and over!

    And shame on all you who treated her like a slacker!!!!

    Have to say I agree with this. With the average male healthy weight being higher than that of females, they generally can eat more food than we can in order to maintain said healthy weight. The main reason this observation could still seem like whining (to me) is that not all men are super tall, you could still have a gentleman that's 5'6" and he'd have to figure out a way to eat less food or exercise more than his 6'5" buddy in order to maintain a healthy weight. Yeah life's not fair but what's wrong with venting every once in a while?
    She has been trying to lose 11 pounds for two years.

    Yes, in general women lose a bit more slowly than men. But even taking that into account, 11 pounds in two years? That's less than half a pound a month if she had actually done it. That says something ain't right -- either health-wise (doubtful) or in the effort she's putting in.

    All this whining about her husband should be enough to burn the calories for that fraction of a pound, FPS.

    I'm so used to seeing "FFS" that I had to take a solid 30 seconds to figure out that you meant the original expression. :laugh:
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    For those of you thinking I'm doing nothing but sitting on the kitchen floor crying and eating oreo's, that's not accurate. I am up at 3:45 everyday either running or lifting heavy 6 days a week. I have a personal trainer who sets out a meal plan for me (hence the seemingly inaccurate logging) and I'm on the last 10-20 lbs.

    My husband has NEVER worked out prior to this and NEVER paid attention to what he was eating. A few years go, before our wedding he switched from regular soda to diet and lost 10 lbs. That's the only change to his eating he's made in the 10 years I've known him. Now that he's doing P90X (which is hard and is a lot of work - I'm not saying it's not) he's lost about 20 lbs and since following the meal plan a week or so ago, dropped more weight. Since he wasn't working out, has a desk job and was eating more carbs in a day than I eat in a week, OF COURSE it was easier for him to see a change and to get results.

    FWIW he's 6'2"
    SW 210
    CW 179

    I'm 5'1"
    SW 145
    CW 137

    In an effort to take advice from all of you, I will use his success as inspiration/motivation and will keep trucking along. I'll try to stay better about logging my food here to keep myself accountable and will stop whining about it.
    If you are working this hard and cannot lose 11 pounds in 24 months, I recommend you see a doctor ASAP. Preferably an endocrinologist. This indicated a health problem.

    I disagree. OP says she's "following a meal plan" and doing all of this hard work, but unless that meal plan also includes using a food scale to measure foods, weigh liquids and also track calories (even if on paper), that's still the first area to look at correcting before jumping to a medical explanation. She may be "working hard," but you can't "outrun a diet," as they say. If the lifting is progressive and heavy, then I'd even suggest OP ditch the scale in favor of measurement tracking or tracking with pictures.
    Good point.

    Still, it seems suspect. I weighed less than that, am taller than she is and was dropping nearly two pounds a week when I was actively losing. And I did guesstimate some things.

    But, yeah. start with the weighing and measuring first.
    I'm so used to seeing "FFS" that I had to take a solid 30 seconds to figure out that you meant the original expression. laugh

    Ha ha.
  • JenD1066
    JenD1066 Posts: 298 Member
    Because men are annoying.

    ^This.
  • Grankakes
    Grankakes Posts: 128 Member
    my hubby has weighed the same (or close to it) for over 30 years. wore a size 31 pants when we got married. now he wears a 32. he does not get to give me diet advice!
  • decblessings
    decblessings Posts: 113 Member
    Yikes...

    My post was only half serious. It was more of a vent/rant than anything. Thanks to those of you who didn't beat me up.

    For those of you thinking I'm doing nothing but sitting on the kitchen floor crying and eating oreo's, that's not accurate. I am up at 3:45 everyday either running or lifting heavy 6 days a week. I have a personal trainer who sets out a meal plan for me (hence the seemingly inaccurate logging) and I'm on the last 10-20 lbs.

    My husband has NEVER worked out prior to this and NEVER paid attention to what he was eating. A few years go, before our wedding he switched from regular soda to diet and lost 10 lbs. That's the only change to his eating he's made in the 10 years I've known him. Now that he's doing P90X (which is hard and is a lot of work - I'm not saying it's not) he's lost about 20 lbs and since following the meal plan a week or so ago, dropped more weight. Since he wasn't working out, has a desk job and was eating more carbs in a day than I eat in a week, OF COURSE it was easier for him to see a change and to get results.

    FWIW he's 6'2"
    SW 210
    CW 179

    I'm 5'1"
    SW 145
    CW 137

    In an effort to take advice from all of you, I will use his success as inspiration/motivation and will keep trucking along. I'll try to stay better about logging my food here to keep myself accountable and will stop whining about it.

    I feel your pain! I have the same stats as you - 5'1", current weight is 137. SW is debatable because I've bounced around with pregnancies and such but I have it as 150 on here. I've been trying to get below 137 since my last child was born and she just turned 3. I DID see a doctor about it and my blood work was all good. She just said, "Sometimes the math just doesn't work out the way we think it should." I do weigh and measure pretty much everything. BUT... I have a history of an eating disorder, so I've probably messed up my metabolism. I upped my calories for a while in an attempt to get my metabolism back where it should be and I gained, obviously. I am slowly losing again but like someone else said, when you're in your last 10 pounds or so, it goes really slow and a little "screw up" can take away your deficit.

    My husband is also short but is a solid ball of muscle without really trying. He does have a manual labor job now, but for as long as I've known him he's been muscular, even when the occasional game of dodgeball with some buddies was his only form of "exercise." He eats and eats and its 90% garbage and doesn't gain an ounce. I do have him living healthier now than he ever has before but he still eats a lot of junk. It's hard weighing out my little servings and seeing him literally devour a large pizza and a half of another. Obviously he's burning that off somewhere along the way. He is a bundle of energy... but yeah... it still gives me a reason to roll my eyes sometimes.