Catpee, the magical new diet
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tincanonastring wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »It isnt as simple as carbs in minus carbs out equals weight loss. Carbs arnt even a unit of mass, they are a unit of energy (potential energy). The body is rate limited through all its processes in converting food to fat. Im sure eating 4000 cals throughout the day will cause more weight gain than putting 4000 cals down in a short time. More cals would be absorbed if consumed over a longer period of time than if eaten all at once. If consumed in a short period of time, more of it would be excreted before being able to be absorbed.
Why are you sure? What is your evidence for such a statement?
Every physical process is rate limited. I should state I believe this would happen. The only way it wouldn't would be is if the body stored food ate all at once longer so it could absorb the cals or if eating all at once made the rate of conversion higher. That's just math.
Sorry, I should have been more clear with my question. What is the rate limit of the digestion process as it relates to energy and nutrient absorption?
I have no idea. I just like to think I can eat a lot all at once and not gain weight!:) I also think this reasoning would say to eat junk with a meal if your going to eat it and not between meals where you will absorb most of it. It would be very interesting to figure this out to truly see if the limit is low enough to take advantage of it (eat a lot at once and not get fat). Somone may have already done studies.0 -
So you're saying the only way this would work is if the body works the way it does? The body does, in fact, buffer and create chyme when it has more food than it can work with at one time. Is buffering and holding a perfectly energy free action? Well no, everything has some cost, but the body has evolved under evolutionary pressure to make this a rather efficient process to the point that it won't allow you to "cheat" the system and get extra calories. Try as you might, you'll maybe buy yourself an extra stick of sugar free gum.tincanonastring wrote: »It isnt as simple as carbs in minus carbs out equals weight loss. Carbs arnt even a unit of mass, they are a unit of energy (potential energy). The body is rate limited through all its processes in converting food to fat. Im sure eating 4000 cals throughout the day will cause more weight gain than putting 4. 0 cals down in a short time. More cals would be absorbed if consumed over a longer period of time than if eaten all at once. If consumed in a short period of time, more of it would be excreted before being able to be absorbed.
Why are you sure? What is your evidence for such a statement?
Every physical process is rate limited. I should state I believe this would happen. The only way it wouldn't would be is if the body stored food ate all at once longer so it could absorb the cals or if eating all at once made the rate of conversion higher. That's just math.
People will do this in intermitten fasting, but it is purely about appetite control, it doesn't cause magic.
The body is saturation and rate limited. It cant infinitely store stuff for digestion or instanteneously digest stuff. What matters is if the limits are low enough to take advantage of it or not (that would not be magic if it was low enough to take advantage of it). I am doing intermittant fasting and only eat at night. I eat as much as I want and am loosing weight. I dont eat excessive calories though cause my stomach shrinks from the fasting so these limiting factors may not be playing a roll.0 -
This is shaping up to be the greatest thread ever.0
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tincanonastring wrote: »It isnt as simple as carbs in minus carbs out equals weight loss. Carbs arnt even a unit of mass, they are a unit of energy (potential energy). The body is rate limited through all its processes in converting food to fat. Im sure eating 4000 cals throughout the day will cause more weight gain than putting 4000 cals down in a short time. More cals would be absorbed if consumed over a longer period of time than if eaten all at once. If consumed in a short period of time, more of it would be excreted before being able to be absorbed.
Why are you sure? What is your evidence for such a statement?
Every physical process is rate limited. I should state I believe this would happen. The only way it wouldn't would be is if the body stored food ate all at once longer so it could absorb the cals or if eating all at once made the rate of conversion higher. That's just math.
The process of digestion takes between 24 and 48 hours. Unless you're eating more than 2 days worth of food all at once, I doubt it's going to have a problem absorbing.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »It isnt as simple as carbs in minus carbs out equals weight loss. Carbs arnt even a unit of mass, they are a unit of energy (potential energy). The body is rate limited through all its processes in converting food to fat. Im sure eating 4000 cals throughout the day will cause more weight gain than putting 4000 cals down in a short time. More cals would be absorbed if consumed over a longer period of time than if eaten all at once. If consumed in a short period of time, more of it would be excreted before being able to be absorbed.
Why are you sure? What is your evidence for such a statement?
Every physical process is rate limited. I should state I believe this would happen. The only way it wouldn't would be is if the body stored food ate all at once longer so it could absorb the cals or if eating all at once made the rate of conversion higher. That's just math.
The process of digestion takes between 24 and 48 hours. Unless you're eating more than 2 days worth of food all at once, I doubt it's going to have a problem absorbing.
N of 1, but can confirm. 3500 calories over maintenance in an evening is no problem for me if it involves soda, pizza, and ice cream, and I will gain a pound from that just like I would if I'd spaced it out over a few days or a week.
Now 3500 cal over maintenance of very high fiber foods in one evening? Not sure. I am pretty sure I'd bust a gut if I tried to find out, though, so I won't.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »tincanonastring wrote: »It isnt as simple as carbs in minus carbs out equals weight loss. Carbs arnt even a unit of mass, they are a unit of energy (potential energy). The body is rate limited through all its processes in converting food to fat. Im sure eating 4000 cals throughout the day will cause more weight gain than putting 4000 cals down in a short time. More cals would be absorbed if consumed over a longer period of time than if eaten all at once. If consumed in a short period of time, more of it would be excreted before being able to be absorbed.
Why are you sure? What is your evidence for such a statement?
Every physical process is rate limited. I should state I believe this would happen. The only way it wouldn't would be is if the body stored food ate all at once longer so it could absorb the cals or if eating all at once made the rate of conversion higher. That's just math.
The process of digestion takes between 24 and 48 hours. Unless you're eating more than 2 days worth of food all at once, I doubt it's going to have a problem absorbing.
N of 1, but can confirm. 3500 calories over maintenance in an evening is no problem for me if it involves soda, pizza, and ice cream, and I will gain a pound from that just like I would if I'd spaced it out over a few days or a week.
Now 3500 cal over maintenance of very high fiber foods in one evening? Not sure. I am pretty sure I'd bust a gut if I tried to find out, though, so I won't.
That is a good data point. I wonder if same for others? I know food stays in a body for awhile but what I dont know is the bodies ability to absorb stuff as a function of quantity consumed rate.0 -
MommyL2015 wrote: »Yeah, I've taken her to 2 vets, had full blood workups and xrays and they can't find anything wrong with her, other than some mild arthritis in her hips. Tried changing her litter, litter box, food but nothing has worked. For whatever reason, even though she does still use her litter box, once or twice a day she goes on the carpet. She's in really good shape for her age. A little overweight but otherwise healthy.
I would recommend Jackson Galaxy http://jacksongalaxy.com/category/pee-poop-problems/ but you might have to replace your catpee diet.
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I didn't realize this theta got a second life. Too bad grocette is gone.0
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